I'm strongly considering returning to WoW after many, many years away from the game. The Worldsoul Saga seems intriguing to me from a lore and story perspective, the many new Evergreen additions they will add going forward, their promise to respect my time more. I'm 36 now, and what I want from an MMO has changed significantly from when I was in my 20's.
I always return, enjoy my time, and for whatever reason just drop off from the game. The game is fine but it doesn't really give you a reason to stick around like it used to. The game back when you played (at least FELT like it) had things to do after settling well into end game. I'm not sure how they can fix this, but if they manage to figure this part out the game would be massively improved.
Solo or groups of friends less than 5 now have a way to get loot out of the Great Vault without running dungeons or raids. This is huge and quite awesome!
🤣 RIGHT! It's like a parent saying "We are removing your old TV" and the kid starts to cry before hearing "To replace it with with a New OLED Screen 3 times bigger"
"How funny like as we get older, Blizzard has to respect our time more 'cause we're not a bunch of teenagers, we're all like in our 30s" Here I am, hovering at the cusp of 47, eyes glued to Blizzcon with the eager anticipation of a teenager, secretly hoping they'll drop some epic loot that'll make me forget I'm not actually 16 anymore.
People may not realize adding Dragonflight as the base line leveling system transforms WoW for a new player experience. From the new starting area, to Dragonflight, to eat within. Might as well be a WoW 2
@@richardshiflett5181 Exactly. It has the NPCs from the island in the starting area too. If this was their plan from the beginning then I wouldn't be surprised at all.
Hate when people complain about games "stealing" ideas from other games. Video games have been doing it for years and it SHOULD happen. It makes the game industry way better imo.
Can't wait for warbands. I've 67 level 70 characters and 148 chars in total. I suggested that for so long. Accwide bank, that we can collect transmog no matter what we can wear and the biggest thing: Accwide rep. I wish that for nearly 15 years and made so many threads about that. I always got hate for that. Now it's comming. Thanks blizz! I also hope that we'll get more char slots per acc because currently it's 60. Also I love dragonriding so good it stays and will be available everywhere.
Wow that's a lot of characters! I can't imagine trying to pick one to play every time you log in! I'm glad they added this feature that you'll enjoy I think these announcements look really good too
You seriously need to get out into the world more mate. Jesus. Don't get me wrong, I love the game but that's an insane amount of time invested into pixels
@@richardshiflett5181Only partially correct. At the start it will be only Dragonflight reps and the new expansion yes, but if you had actually listened to what he said they are going to be working backwards from there to add the rest of the previous reps from old expansions etc to the account wide system as well over time.
Classic had too much class uniqueness. We need class uniqueness as it was in Warcraft 3, but in a game like WoW there needs to be more ability to step into different roles than Classic provided. Classic pigeon-holed you into the role the devs picked for you because that was the only tree and gear they optimized. We can do better in 2023.
if the basis of this arguemnt stems from something like "they are taking away class uniqueness because now mages can heal" then thats like saying all healers are the same and theres no difference between a resto druid and priest. which is super short sighted and dumb
Eureka in FF14 was so epic it looks like that loved that cause Eureka was wher you farmed your expansion Legacy weapon and certain mount drops you can only get from there or on A.H was so epic farming bosses in boss trains hda to go into main chat channels to get invited to groups of up to 10 players loved that place
All this is great, but when Ian was explaining the Flight Path unlocks for alts, it pretty much encapsulated why I am just not interested in Retail no matter how much QoL they add. Can you imagine in Classic you make a nelf alt and can just immediately fly to SW? Completely takes away that journey of getting from Telrassil to Eastern Kingdoms. And I don't think that fits in retail, he's right, retail isn't about the journey. On your third toon you just want to get the the important parts and blast through it. And personally I just really don't enjoy that.
Big W for me was the fact that not every new content is mandatory. "Play like you want" is 100% me and my GF's thing. To run a few delves after a hard workday would be better than grind like an idiot!
They said this same thing in DF panel and SL panel. "Respect ur time". Whats different now? Is it coz Chris Metzen is there? Is it coz ur favourite streamer is hyped about it? Kinda funny I dunno
I dont know about how everybody is crying about the expac but for me personaly thats the best possible realistical option blizz could have and they got lucky.... Im glad they did it in time... now they have the last chance to revive the game and genre among youngs... thats the point
what i then wonder about the max members the cross-realm guild can have, in general i liked all the account wide stuff and the all my chars on one screen
Option is an illusion, people are just gonna pick the fastest, easiest, and least complicated way to get the best gear or power, no matter how "boring" it is. This means most people are gonna solo so they don't have to deal with group drama, unless group makes things significantly easier and faster.
Just to answer your question in the end: - the Story continuity - the Gameplay - the Gameplay loop - the Content (dont make it about cosmetics only but also about good gear and nice achievements/titles)
When he said chests are in the delves. You need to collect keys to unlock them. Many different ways to get keys That when I realized all this sketch. Thats sounds just like Diablo Immortals
So fucking glad lots of devs now are realizing real adults play their games and they’re adding things to cut back on the pointlessness of some grinds, like sharing rep is huge
I just had a completely wild idea. What if every character in wow was unique, inherently. Tough to solve a game if every char is unique, and this uniqueness is revealed not at the start so you can just reroll. Dunno what every random element would be, but the more the better. Randomized weapon racial etc.
To answer your question about why having realms if everything is crossrealm: Did you see Asmongold crash a Hardcore server just because he made a character there? It's way easier to have 10 realms with 100 people than 1 realm with 1000.
true and when a realms is "broken" you can still play your alt in the meanwhile on another server while your main server is getting fixed Like in Black Desert Online you have several "realms" but it is actually one big server and you can freely every 10 min change "realm"
3 dwarves is exactly what wow needs apparently /sigh I just want something cool and interesting. Like Naga or Centaurs or Sethrak or Tortollans etc etc etc
The vault delve thing isnt an issue because it gives lower item lvl than high mythic plus and not higer then heroic raids, and those are item lvls are farmable by spamming dungeons insted so its a non issue, this is so good!
Blademaster for Warrior, how’d they not go with that as an option? Also 3rd dwarf is kinda lame, and even lamer it can be horde. Would’ve preferred Badger race from Wrath for Horde, and maybe the bug race from Mists for Alliance. Or the bug race for both factions if they wanted another neutral option. Last, I would’ve liked to see something more meaningful for the hero specs. Something like covenant abilities (not covenants) but a unique skill is for the hero talents. As it stands, it just seems like a boring way to give us a sub-sub spec, all it does is buff the specs damage and healing by %, or make cooldowns stronger, that can all be done with simple balance adjustments in patches.
Warbands...SWTOR's Legacy system that we've had since 2012. That was one thing I hated about WoW when I played it. I never understood why it didn't have a legacy system for the account or server.
San'Layn!? Rider of The Apocalypse!? Deathbringer!? This sounds awesome! So when are they removing the token? Still havent played Wrath Classic, still won't play retail. Make a video when they finally make gold and leveling matter. Fuck microtransactions.
Ngl kinda sounds like I’ve been playing a beta since legion after all this. DF has already felt like one big beta with every class atleast getting or going to get 1 major rework before the next xpac. With this said this shit sounds tight and HOPEFULLY blizzard is getting their shit together.
But what made it soo broken? It was just a 4 second stun the required a target to be nova'd. Why is this more broken then a paladins 6 second HOJ or a warriors 4 second storm bolt or any other stun for that matter around the same duration. I don't fundamentally see why it would be an issue for them to introduce deep freeze back into the game probably in the form of a PvP talent that has to compete with other talents.
@@kylesmith987 it was a 5 second stun but also meant you could spam shatters into it. Imagine if the warrior stun gave the warrior recklessness for 5 seconds as well. That is why it was broken
46:10 would you say then that Classic gameplay is good? Because I dont necessarily think so, its the gearing, the vibe, the enemies that make it good. The action bar gameplay is not really that fun to me.
Keeping it simple is why people returned to Classic, I returned from Wrath and had to buy a 12 button mouse and STILL have to use SHIFT modifiers, making that 24 buttons on ONLY the mouse not even including the keyboard keys, this game has crazy ass button bloat. They don't need to make it classic simple but shit they need to fix the bloat.
This is massive, no more stress and i can focus on content I enjoy then turn it off without farming some junk for hrs and getting the shitties with the game
Stop re-shuffling talents and calling it "new class design".. I miss the old days where a new expac would be announced and i'd hastily look up what cool new spells I was getting... now I dreadfully look up what spells I am losing or now have to choose between... It's been this way since MOP and it's horrible for the game.
I like the idea to not add on much more talent complexity than there is currently. But would really like them to actively take complexity out from where it is at dragonflight.
So now every class is a hero class lol. Might come back to my evoker. It's time to mix horde and ally in bg's and dungeons. Allow both factions to visit all cities (only for warmode off players.) Faster que if we can mix match bgs from both factions imho
I was so hyped when they announced this it came across like a WoW 2, full reset. In reality its just another expansion full of bloat that we will play for like a month then naturally end up back on Classic.
None of the hero talents are adding abilities. Abilities from the talent trees have a square border, none of the talents have that in the hero section. Ion also literally says we know where that road goes, they went down that path already. The hero talents will likely just change or do extra things to abilities we already have.
Idk man, everyone's praising this, but it's literally just biting all the cookie cutter QOL mechanics from other, more (recently) successful games, that players have been begging for for years. it's too little too late for me. almost 20 years and now they're deciding it's better to join the pack than be a frontrunner? and then announce "We already have the next 10 years planned" great, glad feedback is gonna be even more irrelevant.
This is a massive W , but to be honest, blizzard has let me down way too many expansions... things were so shit ever since legion ended , bfa was fun during corruption vendor period ( that was at the END of the expansion) , slands was massive hype but torghast was too dry and repetitive , we all know how shit covenants are ... dragonflight was fun and all but had complicated and unbalanced systems , dungeons were frustratingly overtuned . I have since unsubbed to warcraft , and have moved on to better games. I'm sorry Blizzard , i've enjoyed your game from the beginning , but you have let me down too many times to want to spend 80$ on the expansion + subscription.
Awaiting for the 40 year old dad "vanilla was beter, retail will always be bad" comments. Can't wait to see how your sad life reflects in your unfounded hate for the WoW teams after this blizzcon :)
I am 32, and tbh I do see some valid reasons they do not like retail. The game is not exactly friendly to the newcomer with all the bloated buttons, abilities and overall old world content. The social aspect is dry from too much artificial systems that pushed people into solo play and into lfg, instead of general chat and open world ( which feels empty due to the above and old zonnes with no scope ). I really do hope TWW brings back people with hype, open world content, delves and xbox game pass to multiple platforms. Having classic, classic+ and hardcore to keep the rest busy, is itself resource draining and pushes people to hop between games when something is happening due to fomo. They need to make a single WoW that shelters all in one place and keeps the playerbase active due to it being fun.
the war within, meaning the war between blizzard constantly given out the shittest Xpacs and the consumer fighting the urge to not just throw in the towel
gonna pay for 3 day early access, then pay for wow tokens to buy cutting edge and glad! so excited. hope the next patch comes early so not too many plebs get those achievements as well, I love when the seasonal gear become obsolete so I can do it again so people know I am the best wow player every patch.
Im not gona lie, people dont seem to recognize why WoW sucks. The last 50 things the wow team tried to do were all good ideas that either worked or didnt, but its not an issue of that. The playerbase curve is getting older, there is no new blood being pumped into the game, that is the single most valuable thing that needs to be addressed immediately. These systems are being developped for the same old grumpy people to make them happy, but the reason they arent happy is that their game is dying and getting even more complicated which is killing it even faster. Thats the honest truth.
@@joefrance4180 There is no official player count for a long time. But all estimates available online range from hundreds of thousands to more than a million daily players. In no world is that a "dead game" except for idiots who don't know how many players other games have, and the funny thing is these idiots have been saying it for literal decades lol. Wow and FFXIV is always competing for top 1/top 2 MMO.
Yo Xar the only time I saw you in months was with your vid w Esteban who I don’t watch. Let Asmon comment these type things as this vid and the Depp Trial I think. Your best having fun
BS there will 100% be a currency linked to this that forces us in. The reason people like Vanilla is open world difficulty. Why not make retail the same, a world where if you go running around and get too cocky with pve it should mess you up. Real solo pulls like vanilla was, that was why people enjoyed it
Not going to lie I want this solo shuffle different rating for different characters thing stopped. It sux because we have to deal with either the really good players bring alts through or the really bad players bring alts through and it's painful. Atleast the good players help you learn and when on your team it's good but bad players are so unpredictable. Obviously to a lot I am the bad player, only talking for my rating
"So, this would be about removing realms altogether" No. For the love of God, no. I play exclusively on RP realms, I'm not being shoved in with a bunch of normies.
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I'm strongly considering returning to WoW after many, many years away from the game. The Worldsoul Saga seems intriguing to me from a lore and story perspective, the many new Evergreen additions they will add going forward, their promise to respect my time more. I'm 36 now, and what I want from an MMO has changed significantly from when I was in my 20's.
id suggest you to not
listen to the Junior !
I always return, enjoy my time, and for whatever reason just drop off from the game. The game is fine but it doesn't really give you a reason to stick around like it used to. The game back when you played (at least FELT like it) had things to do after settling well into end game. I'm not sure how they can fix this, but if they manage to figure this part out the game would be massively improved.
I see people saying this all the time. Every expansion 😂
Enjoy spending 90 bucks just to still spend a monthly sub
Solo or groups of friends less than 5 now have a way to get loot out of the Great Vault without running dungeons or raids. This is huge and quite awesome!
I love how the chat goes from "OMFG NO PVP ROW? PVP IS DEAD!!!!" - to .. "Oh shit W!" ..
Sometimes it's important to just, wait a bit :)
🤣 RIGHT! It's like a parent saying "We are removing your old TV" and the kid starts to cry before hearing
"To replace it with with a New OLED Screen 3 times bigger"
hoenestly the way blizzard is u never know what bullshit they have instore.
"How funny like as we get older, Blizzard has to respect our time more 'cause we're not a bunch of teenagers, we're all like in our 30s"
Here I am, hovering at the cusp of 47, eyes glued to Blizzcon with the eager anticipation of a teenager, secretly hoping they'll drop some epic loot that'll make me forget I'm not actually 16 anymore.
People may not realize adding Dragonflight as the base line leveling system transforms WoW for a new player experience. From the new starting area, to Dragonflight, to eat within. Might as well be a WoW 2
Exiles reach flows directly into it too.
@@richardshiflett5181 Exactly. It has the NPCs from the island in the starting area too. If this was their plan from the beginning then I wouldn't be surprised at all.
this deep dive was a massive W
the "what sword" tshirt is already a win xDD
Hate when people complain about games "stealing" ideas from other games. Video games have been doing it for years and it SHOULD happen. It makes the game industry way better imo.
Oooh myyyy im so stoked for this. Nice work Blizz team!
im from 1977 and started playing this game when it was in beta i was so hooked
Can't wait for warbands. I've 67 level 70 characters and 148 chars in total. I suggested that for so long. Accwide bank, that we can collect transmog no matter what we can wear and the biggest thing: Accwide rep. I wish that for nearly 15 years and made so many threads about that. I always got hate for that. Now it's comming. Thanks blizz!
I also hope that we'll get more char slots per acc because currently it's 60.
Also I love dragonriding so good it stays and will be available everywhere.
Wow that's a lot of characters! I can't imagine trying to pick one to play every time you log in! I'm glad they added this feature that you'll enjoy I think these announcements look really good too
Sadly, only new reps are accountwide. Old reps aren't
You seriously need to get out into the world more mate. Jesus. Don't get me wrong, I love the game but that's an insane amount of time invested into pixels
@@richardshiflett5181Only partially correct. At the start it will be only Dragonflight reps and the new expansion yes, but if you had actually listened to what he said they are going to be working backwards from there to add the rest of the previous reps from old expansions etc to the account wide system as well over time.
didnt think this blizzcon would make me want to return to retail
100% agree with your thoughts at the end.We need more class uniqueness, that is what made classic and we want that back.
Classic had too much class uniqueness. We need class uniqueness as it was in Warcraft 3, but in a game like WoW there needs to be more ability to step into different roles than Classic provided. Classic pigeon-holed you into the role the devs picked for you because that was the only tree and gear they optimized. We can do better in 2023.
if the basis of this arguemnt stems from something like "they are taking away class uniqueness because now mages can heal" then thats like saying all healers are the same and theres no difference between a resto druid and priest. which is super short sighted and dumb
@@danielmitchell671 "short sighted and dumb"....buddy you just described 90% of the WoW playerbase with that one comment.
Eureka in FF14 was so epic it looks like that loved that cause Eureka was wher you farmed your expansion Legacy weapon and certain mount drops you can only get from there or on A.H was so epic farming bosses in boss trains hda to go into main chat channels to get invited to groups of up to 10 players loved that place
All this is great, but when Ian was explaining the Flight Path unlocks for alts, it pretty much encapsulated why I am just not interested in Retail no matter how much QoL they add.
Can you imagine in Classic you make a nelf alt and can just immediately fly to SW? Completely takes away that journey of getting from Telrassil to Eastern Kingdoms. And I don't think that fits in retail, he's right, retail isn't about the journey. On your third toon you just want to get the the important parts and blast through it. And personally I just really don't enjoy that.
Big W for me was the fact that not every new content is mandatory. "Play like you want" is 100% me and my GF's thing. To run a few delves after a hard workday would be better than grind like an idiot!
Weird take that just because you have time to grind makes you an idiot but... delve w nonetheless
@@nickh4354 Just a german saying :D Shouldn't sound negative ;)
They said this same thing in DF panel and SL panel. "Respect ur time". Whats different now? Is it coz Chris Metzen is there? Is it coz ur favourite streamer is hyped about it? Kinda funny I dunno
@@bos7522I'm more the positive guy bro
I dont know about how everybody is crying about the expac but for me personaly thats the best possible realistical option blizz could have and they got lucky.... Im glad they did it in time... now they have the last chance to revive the game and genre among youngs... thats the point
what i then wonder about the max members the cross-realm guild can have, in general i liked all the account wide stuff and the all my chars on one screen
the what sword shirt....awsome, i like him !
Option is an illusion, people are just gonna pick the fastest, easiest, and least complicated way to get the best gear or power, no matter how "boring" it is.
This means most people are gonna solo so they don't have to deal with group drama, unless group makes things significantly easier and faster.
Just to answer your question in the end:
- the Story continuity
- the Gameplay
- the Gameplay loop
- the Content (dont make it about cosmetics only but also about good gear and nice achievements/titles)
When he said chests are in the delves. You need to collect keys to unlock them. Many different ways to get keys
That when I realized all this sketch.
Thats sounds just like Diablo Immortals
As someone who has 13 max lvl alts and an unused lvl boost I'm pretty excited
So fucking glad lots of devs now are realizing real adults play their games and they’re adding things to cut back on the pointlessness of some grinds, like sharing rep is huge
21:55 does this mean pvp r1 title is acc wide now too? as in any char can wear it?
I just had a completely wild idea. What if every character in wow was unique, inherently. Tough to solve a game if every char is unique, and this uniqueness is revealed not at the start so you can just reroll. Dunno what every random element would be, but the more the better. Randomized weapon racial etc.
No
@@wm1573 why not?
Thats right... the only thing that really matters is to stop this stupid 1-100% HP pingpong in pvp!
Exactly, that way healers will care to play more.
To answer your question about why having realms if everything is crossrealm: Did you see Asmongold crash a Hardcore server just because he made a character there? It's way easier to have 10 realms with 100 people than 1 realm with 1000.
true and when a realms is "broken" you can still play your alt in the meanwhile on another server while your main server is getting fixed
Like in Black Desert Online you have several "realms" but it is actually one big server and you can freely every 10 min change "realm"
Do you own any other t-shirts bro
To me retail pvp is mutch more fun than classic pvp.
When the hell we getting Naga horde and Centaur alliance playable races? What we get? Another reskinned dwarf?
3 dwarves is exactly what wow needs apparently /sigh I just want something cool and interesting. Like Naga or Centaurs or Sethrak or Tortollans etc etc etc
I love how the verdict on every wow expansion is "cautiously optimistic" nowadays 😂
The vault delve thing isnt an issue because it gives lower item lvl than high mythic plus and not higer then heroic raids, and those are item lvls are farmable by spamming dungeons insted so its a non issue, this is so good!
So there is no point in ground mounts ever again?? In the open world?
Delves sound inspired by Delves and Public Dungeons in ESO except instanced instead of open world.
Blademaster for Warrior, how’d they not go with that as an option?
Also 3rd dwarf is kinda lame, and even lamer it can be horde. Would’ve preferred Badger race from Wrath for Horde, and maybe the bug race from Mists for Alliance. Or the bug race for both factions if they wanted another neutral option.
Last, I would’ve liked to see something more meaningful for the hero specs. Something like covenant abilities (not covenants) but a unique skill is for the hero talents. As it stands, it just seems like a boring way to give us a sub-sub spec, all it does is buff the specs damage and healing by %, or make cooldowns stronger, that can all be done with simple balance adjustments in patches.
Probably because of the “blade” part of it - they dont want to lock people into swords
That being said, i agree - ive wanted blademaster forever ;.;
I never like the "companion" following me around mechanics... Why do so many games do this?
Warbands...SWTOR's Legacy system that we've had since 2012. That was one thing I hated about WoW when I played it. I never understood why it didn't have a legacy system for the account or server.
your wrong about the game play take. Thats a small percentage of player base that feels like that .
shaman hero spec could be Witch doctor
San'Layn!?
Rider of The Apocalypse!?
Deathbringer!?
This sounds awesome! So when are they removing the token? Still havent played Wrath Classic, still won't play retail. Make a video when they finally make gold and leveling matter. Fuck microtransactions.
Lets Go homie G!
So basically they need to add 40 second duration Poly to pvp for Xar to play
Did he legit say, “if you’re a SOLO *healer”?? 😂😂
Delve kind of reminds me of a combination of heist and delve from PoE .
Ngl kinda sounds like I’ve been playing a beta since legion after all this. DF has already felt like one big beta with every class atleast getting or going to get 1 major rework before the next xpac.
With this said this shit sounds tight and HOPEFULLY blizzard is getting their shit together.
Delves sound sick ngl
Ian has come a looooong way lmao
OMGG now i realize the 3 day early acces will give me 3 days free Azeroth from tryhard crybabies... ppl nowadays
a new bg finally
Can I get a refund for the 13 character transfers I just did to follow my old guild? lol
So they’re using dragonflight as a soft reboot. I like it
I'm looking forward to this.
The fact mages to this day keep crying about deep freeze proves how broken it was.
But what made it soo broken? It was just a 4 second stun the required a target to be nova'd. Why is this more broken then a paladins 6 second HOJ or a warriors 4 second storm bolt or any other stun for that matter around the same duration. I don't fundamentally see why it would be an issue for them to introduce deep freeze back into the game probably in the form of a PvP talent that has to compete with other talents.
@@kylesmith987 because of the way their spells interacted with it.
@@kylesmith987 it was a 5 second stun but also meant you could spam shatters into it. Imagine if the warrior stun gave the warrior recklessness for 5 seconds as well. That is why it was broken
@@kylesmith987 Its a stun that also gave them more damage
Earthen race = Duergar.
46:10 would you say then that Classic gameplay is good? Because I dont necessarily think so, its the gearing, the vibe, the enemies that make it good. The action bar gameplay is not really that fun to me.
Keeping it simple is why people returned to Classic, I returned from Wrath and had to buy a 12 button mouse and STILL have to use SHIFT modifiers, making that 24 buttons on ONLY the mouse not even including the keyboard keys, this game has crazy ass button bloat. They don't need to make it classic simple but shit they need to fix the bloat.
@@Kanoogyou got some serious skill issues if you need a fucking new mouse to play. You don’t need shit. Lots of binds in the keyboard
This is massive, no more stress and i can focus on content I enjoy then turn it off without farming some junk for hrs and getting the shitties with the game
.lvl 13 evoker? They start at 60?
start at lvl 10 next expansion
no day one mythics because some people won't even be playing day 1 haha
W with vault thing for sure
The customizable mount is straight up ripped from Mario Kart Deluxe
There is no such thing as an original idea, Mario Kart stole that idea too fyi.
Blizzard always getting away with putting a price tag on QoL changes.
It's a huge QoL change.
Stop re-shuffling talents and calling it "new class design".. I miss the old days where a new expac would be announced and i'd hastily look up what cool new spells I was getting... now I dreadfully look up what spells I am losing or now have to choose between... It's been this way since MOP and it's horrible for the game.
I like the idea to not add on much more talent complexity than there is currently. But would really like them to actively take complexity out from where it is at dragonflight.
This was a huge W.
Really "Delve" and a light radius? How original...
So now every class is a hero class lol. Might come back to my evoker. It's time to mix horde and ally in bg's and dungeons. Allow both factions to visit all cities (only for warmode off players.) Faster que if we can mix match bgs from both factions imho
lets fucking GOOOOOOO
Sounds like random retail drivel
I was so hyped when they announced this it came across like a WoW 2, full reset. In reality its just another expansion full of bloat that we will play for like a month then naturally end up back on Classic.
Yeah, the game is improving but I'll still need a 12 button mouse and using Shift modifiers on it to play with a screen filled with add-ons.
Big W
YOU NO TAKE CANDLE
ffs more talent crap...i feel like every class is in a melting pot atm, and they want to add more into it
Warband needs to expand to ALL rep. Not just new rep.
HE LITERALLY said they are working their way backwards... did you miss that?
Didnt he say they will start from DF and work backwards?
Xar is a one issue voter and his one issue is deep freeze
bro there adding more buttons to press for retail fuck.........
@garrett1155are you talking about spell ranks? You have to be either joking or you have the intellect of poorly mixed concrete
@garrett1155 i logged into retail the other day and was surprised at how many keybinds there are, i do think it might be more than classic.
This why I play BM Hunter and Destruction Warlock.
Less buttons.
None of the hero talents are adding abilities. Abilities from the talent trees have a square border, none of the talents have that in the hero section. Ion also literally says we know where that road goes, they went down that path already. The hero talents will likely just change or do extra things to abilities we already have.
How many times has Ion basically said ”we fucked up but this time it will get better”
Rome Wasn’t Built in a Day, as long as they keep on improving I'm all for it.
i don't even care about WoW but I like the content you do, so props to you good sir. Cheers
5069 stamina did make me cringe a little
Hello Lost Ark influence
Ya legendaries from Torghast was the dumbest shi ever. If only they carried progress over in D4 from season to season.
Idk man, everyone's praising this, but it's literally just biting all the cookie cutter QOL mechanics from other, more (recently) successful games, that players have been begging for for years. it's too little too late for me. almost 20 years and now they're deciding it's better to join the pack than be a frontrunner? and then announce "We already have the next 10 years planned" great, glad feedback is gonna be even more irrelevant.
This is a massive W , but to be honest, blizzard has let me down way too many expansions... things were so shit ever since legion ended , bfa was fun during corruption vendor period ( that was at the END of the expansion) , slands was massive hype but torghast was too dry and repetitive , we all know how shit covenants are ... dragonflight was fun and all but had complicated and unbalanced systems , dungeons were frustratingly overtuned . I have since unsubbed to warcraft , and have moved on to better games. I'm sorry Blizzard , i've enjoyed your game from the beginning , but you have let me down too many times to want to spend 80$ on the expansion + subscription.
Let’s goooo
They couldn't even change the name of the mechanic they stole from Path Of Exile ...
all these classic andy's crying about everything while not even paying attention at all, true smoothbrains
Awaiting for the 40 year old dad "vanilla was beter, retail will always be bad" comments. Can't wait to see how your sad life reflects in your unfounded hate for the WoW teams after this blizzcon :)
I am 32, and tbh I do see some valid reasons they do not like retail. The game is not exactly friendly to the newcomer with all the bloated buttons, abilities and overall old world content. The social aspect is dry from too much artificial systems that pushed people into solo play and into lfg, instead of general chat and open world ( which feels empty due to the above and old zonnes with no scope ). I really do hope TWW brings back people with hype, open world content, delves and xbox game pass to multiple platforms. Having classic, classic+ and hardcore to keep the rest busy, is itself resource draining and pushes people to hop between games when something is happening due to fomo. They need to make a single WoW that shelters all in one place and keeps the playerbase active due to it being fun.
war in
EVERY PATH OF EXILE PLAYER KNOWS BLIZZARD STOLE THIS FROM POE. THEY DIDNT EVEN CHANGE THE NAME OF THE MECHANIC......Thats crazy....
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These allied races are becoming a big L. No good rp with these new additions just dilutes the game more and more.
This is just PoE
Blizzard is at its best when it steals ideas and refines them.
the war within, meaning the war between blizzard constantly given out the shittest Xpacs and the consumer fighting the urge to not just throw in the towel
gonna pay for 3 day early access, then pay for wow tokens to buy cutting edge and glad! so excited.
hope the next patch comes early so not too many plebs get those achievements as well, I love when the seasonal gear become obsolete so I can do it again so people know I am the best wow player every patch.
So funny to see the consumer retail NPC in its natural habitat
It's funny because nothing will be available in those 3 days, not even world quests lol
He’s just poor bro ignore him.
I'm just buying base version.
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Im not gona lie, people dont seem to recognize why WoW sucks. The last 50 things the wow team tried to do were all good ideas that either worked or didnt, but its not an issue of that. The playerbase curve is getting older, there is no new blood being pumped into the game, that is the single most valuable thing that needs to be addressed immediately. These systems are being developped for the same old grumpy people to make them happy, but the reason they arent happy is that their game is dying and getting even more complicated which is killing it even faster. Thats the honest truth.
that would be your opinion and not an universal truth :), also you have any specific metrics supporting these claims at least?
@@jurasekDominik My opinion is universal truth.
@@bos7522 it really isn't
@@alexstubbings_ My opinion is that u have no opinion. Get upset if u want, but im right and if u disagree with me ure wrong.
Obvious troll is obvious.
Looks like crap .... meh meh meh dragonflight looked soooooo bad I'm good stay a dead game
>dead game
>consistently one of the most popular MMOs even after 19 years
Room temp IQ moment
More popular than any other mmo. Gets top row in twitch every day. How about your shitty dead mmo?
@@bruh-ni1fy look at all time player counts ..... wow is dead absolutely
@@bruh-ni1fy games been straight dead for a decade what you even trying to defend you paid pig
@@joefrance4180 There is no official player count for a long time. But all estimates available online range from hundreds of thousands to more than a million daily players. In no world is that a "dead game" except for idiots who don't know how many players other games have, and the funny thing is these idiots have been saying it for literal decades lol. Wow and FFXIV is always competing for top 1/top 2 MMO.
Bro worst post ever lol
Yo Xar the only time I saw you in months was with your vid w Esteban who I don’t watch. Let Asmon comment these type things as this vid and the Depp Trial I think. Your best having fun
BS there will 100% be a currency linked to this that forces us in. The reason people like Vanilla is open world difficulty. Why not make retail the same, a world where if you go running around and get too cocky with pve it should mess you up. Real solo pulls like vanilla was, that was why people enjoyed it
Not going to lie I want this solo shuffle different rating for different characters thing stopped. It sux because we have to deal with either the really good players bring alts through or the really bad players bring alts through and it's painful. Atleast the good players help you learn and when on your team it's good but bad players are so unpredictable. Obviously to a lot I am the bad player, only talking for my rating
"So, this would be about removing realms altogether"
No. For the love of God, no. I play exclusively on RP realms, I'm not being shoved in with a bunch of normies.
Have you apologized to Savix yet?