How To Use Evercoat Feather Fill G2 - Polyester Primer - Paint And Body Tech Tips
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- How To Use Evercoat Feather Fill G2 - Polyester Primer - Paint And Body Tech Tips
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My Friend Pete takes us through an extensive lesson on how to use the Evercoat Feather Fill G2 Primer.. With the new technology this primer is a breeze to use on any type of paint and body applications for cars or trucks. From collision repairs to full car restorations this is the stuff to use.
Instruction and Educational all in one on this Detailed Product Review and Usage.
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Product Descripton:
A high-build, high-solids Premium Polyester Primer Surfacer that is compliant with California and National Rule VOC regulations. It has been specifically developed to work with 1K and 2K etch primers, while offering exceptional flow and leveling. Other features include smooth spraying, easy sanding, fast dry-to-sand time and a shrink-resistant formula.
Here's how you use this stuff -- Hands down -- If you use it the right way you'll get EXCELLENT RESULTS! Now check out the Merchandise Shelf above this comment and help support My Friend Pete and DIY AUTO SCHOOL!
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I have a 1970 Boss 302 Mustang and I need the Body restored . Can't get it restored in Salt Lake City as I would like it got to find somebody to do like Pete
so after this dries and you block sand it, what are you going to spray on the bare metal spots before spraying the 2k primer ? spot prime with self etching primer ? since it dries quick, use a red scotch-brite then 2k ??
@@michaelmaresh1972 I bet you Pete will l lightly sand it with 180? and not break through to metal . . Watch the video , he explains in detail that his intent is this spot prime ito cover the metal before his 2k ( 2-3 coats ) which is going to be the final sand . His prior bodywork is done and straight as an arrow already !!! … .. anyone who reads this and wants to learn the process , go back to Pete’s playlists on all bondo / bodywork videos …. Pete says all layers on a car is like an onion 🧅!!! you peel off layers and when u add layers step by step and feather everything out and do it right , no 👋 wavey wavey 😎
@@jimhoran5445 thats the stuff Sylvester uses and he swears by it
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience Mr.Pete
Nothing wrong with priming the whole car with it. If you want to block the car nice and straight. Have been using these products for many years and you can block a car much straighter with polyester primer vs urethane primer. Urethane primer is much softer. been doing high end restoration work for 30+ years and polyester primer works the best all the way through the job to the finish sand and yes you can wet sand it, just wipe it down good and let it dry overnight. The epoxy primer must dry for 48+ hours before you apply this primer or you will have issues down the road because epoxy is very slow drying and you do not want to cap it off before it is ready. I learned the hard way along time ago about rushing products.
All epoxy primer/sealers a different. But always following the product sheet is best. It creates a hard waterproof surface that other products will adhere to correctly as long as it’s cleaned and within the open window. I prefer epoxy first on clean bare metal as it is like plastic wrap sealer it from moisture and rock chip after placed in service.
I have seen the tiny chips on the hood or lower panels with rock damage. Sand into them and find a 10 inch spiderweb of rust fingers across a panel. It’s truly disheartening to find. That lead me to epoxy after a chemical strip. I am doing one last complete on a 67 C10 for me. I saw prices going up each week at the box stores and bought more & more. With 16 gallons, should do all with methylene chloride content. No wax paper or plastic. Painting on and paint comes off. Thanks EPA for being so smart!
Good job My friend Pete learned a lot Thanks Pete
Your a great teacher! Thank You
What the hell is this new atomized sprayer that shows on your commercial and I really like the idea of getting one of them stupid hardhat lights on the spray gun Pete
Great DIY video!
I've got a question. Apologies for the dissertation. I'm working on a 64 impala hood that has quiet a bit of wave and dents. I do not want to go with an aftermarket panel if I can avoid it because of fitment concerns and quality. True the quality of the original isn't that great, but at least the fitment is what it should be, and aftermarket panels require bodywork as well. My concern about using featherfill polyester primer on the hood is that the large span of metal flexes quite a bit. I'm worried that over a period of time opening/closing the hood, and general flex that the featherfill may be prone to crack. Getting to the point. Let me ask how many coats of a good high build 2k primer when used properly can I safely use to block out the imperfections? Is there a limit or not depending on proper use. Proper use I mean by allowing proper flash times, blocking and recoating. Is there a limit to layers of 2k high build? If so what would be the end result of this idea? Sorry for the dissertation.
Thanks
And I love Harbor Freight.
Yo hope today is great 👍I was diggin that khaki primer color..I like those non metallic paints these days..
Top geezer. Great advice 👍
Nice one Pete. But after this part is done and the 2G is sanded , and before spraying the 2K surfacer. - What sandpaper grit to use to lightly sand the epoxy so its prepped for bonding the 2K surfacer ? Because the epoxy-sealer will be already there for weeks on the car.
You'll take some dry 180 grit to lightly scuff the epoxy just so the 2K primer will adhere to the surface... Very simple and easy! Thanks for watching.
thats what i was wondering
The thing I don’t get is if you say don’t sand epoxy why wouldn’t you spray the whole car because inevitably is your gonna sand the epoxy when you’re block sanding the feather fill
i have many questions... first why would you prime the car with the handles and key cyclinders in place... You said you were doing it the "right way"... second... spot prime with that stuff makes a horrible edge to feather out... since you are not sanding it ... your 2k can... and most likey will shrink and you will see the edge from the spot primed areas.... there is nothing wrong with using that product on the entire car.... but there are way better primers out there now then the polyester primers....
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I'm gonna have to disagree with you on the sandable epoxy primer. You use PPG, ask them about the product they sell called CRE 321. It is a 2 part epoxy that sands beautiful. It is a high build sandable epoxy primer, or can can be reduced to use as a sealer. It's the only product I use. Don't shoot the messenger!
His channel should be renamed "Pete, the angry car paint guy"
probably get him millions of hits
Why? Because he knows more than the average paint slinger? Start to finish over 14 years on TH-cam. What’s your channel? I would like to learn for my own project. ASE Master, 78. ADCelco instructor, tech seminar leader in 7 states, retired from Raytheon.
I been painting for 20yrs & I love watching & still learning from my friend Pete & knowing your just like the rest of us 95% of what’s in your shop is what’s in mine.
Thanks Pete!!
Pete has a way of making you pay attention to what he is teaching. Your mind isn't going to drift off while he is lecturing you on the correct way to do something.
Pete, this was a very informative video on this product and will show up online when looking for “G2” during a search. With 34 comments so far, I agree with almost everyone. You are doing it right based upon experience and other jokers tell folks no you spray the entire car, waisting product, sandpaper, time and still have a wavy car with an $890 gun that they plugged! Yeah!
That’s for teaching us the “Right Way!” God bless those who help themselves and share! That is you buddy…
Hey Pete! Nice video. When you sand the Evercoat Feather Fill G2 spot prime! how do you avoid sanding the non sanding Epoxy sealer?
Thanks Pete again for sharing your gift and technical information so that we can get it right!! You’re awesome… glad you doing well after surgery
I used feather fill in the early 80's only on body repair areas and Laqed the rest,if you did not use it right FF will lift,it is a great product but not needed for overall coverage,watch the time or junk the gun!!!😊😊😊
I'm sanding down the OAI (Ram Air) hood on my 72 Cutlass 442I'm sanding the old paint off and plan on repainting the hood as well as the rest of the car with Duracryl Viking Blue metallic lacquer paint and clear coating it with their High Performance clear. I will be using KONDAR red Oxide primer on the rest of the car as well as the hood. I've been told that to avoid wavy finish, I need to use Feather Fill on the hood and block it down for a smooth flat finish. Will the Feather Fill play nice with lacquer paint?
Also, years ago when I used to paint cars as a hobby, I used a Bink's number 7 knock off and had good results. I don't want to use that one now since once I used fish eye eliminator in it so it's contaminated.
I have a Bink's 2001 with an agitator cup that has never been used, a new Devilbiss Finish Line HVLP gun and a new AEROPRO HVLP SPRAY GUN G6600 HVLP gun! I've never used an HVLP gun so I was wondering if there will be any issues using one for metallic lacquer? Some on car forums say it will be an issue getting the flakes to flow out? Some say to thin down the last coat with lacquer thinner and it will flow everything out.
What say you Pete.....which of these guns would you use for metallic lacquer paint? I'm 70 years old and not as confident as I was 25 years ago! I enjoy your videos a lot!
My wife always calls you "shouty man", but I love your knowledge and content. I wish you had that right moment in life to open that college, I would have attended it.
Happy New Year Minnie and Pete.
Prime the whole panels. With this thick shit will leave waves.....
The auto body master is back at it again. It’s like the Chevrolet saying, “the best never rest.”
That shit does set up in a HURRY. I don't know how anyone can spray an entire car with it before it sets up. You'd have to be flying... I'll co-sign that its a spot prime situation.
DO EXACTLY WHAT HE SAYS,your work will turn out just like his,he is a master bodyman,i've done a lot of cars doing restoration,with his tips i've made a lot of money,thanks PETE you hard working dude,don't miss the heat of dallas area do you,great job,thanks for teaching what you've learned,don't stop, these kids are lost in the fog,ITS ALL LEARNABLE CHILDREN
Thanks for yet another killer vid Pete... take it easy and praying Gods hands on the surgeon doing your knee and a God Speed recovery in Jesus Name...
A amigo Pete thanks for your time that primer is lite liquid primer that stuff is verry good cover the lows good 🤞👍 amigo pete
You should do a tshirt with mini the body shop girl on it or some type of stuff for mini.
Yes, in sizes other than extra small
Hi, really informative video...i have one question for you since you sems very knowing your stuff, is it ok to apply "metal direct" polyester primer on a surface thats been sprayed with etching primer in its past life. thanks.
I been usong featherfill since 1976 . It was brought to market to go over bare 40 grit bondo . Gen 1 was a lot hardrr to sand and most if the time we used 100 to get it started .at the moment I have jobs done in 78 and still ready for show . Watersand in 600 and paint . No other primers necessary. Personaly I dont trust 2 k primers . Lots ha d tendancies to stay soft . Featherfill is heat reactive so you need a wekl heated shop and you realy should take your gun right apart . Running thinners is not enough. Got my first best paint award in Detroit in 1975 and then we found featherfill .
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Than, you. I a m 63. Just built a garage. I used to do auto ody repair 30 yeas ago. I just started a c10 build. Thanks again
This video was a revelation to me, I’ve been dragging ass forcing this stuff to spray through a regular 2.0 tip primer gun for years, I went and bought one of those harbor freight guns and it sprays just like regular 2k, flows out nice and everything. Awesome tip
My friend Pete is AWESOME!!!
My Friend Pete !!!
After spraying 1-2 coats of the Epoxy primer … what grit sanding do you recommend before spraying the G2 primer ?
Thank you for your help !
Pete is right as per usual. Very good tutorial.
I have a tech tip to add based on my many years of experience ..
Only ONE coat of epoxy primer is needed
Give the epoxy ample time to flash prior to applying the polyester. (Press your thumbnail into epoxy to check for hardness)
If you apply too much epoxy or don’t give it enough time to dry, the polyester will WRINKLE under the polyester and ruin your day.
Haha yup. I learned the hard way. Ruined 2 days of work and added another 6 days of work to strip it all down again
If I am remembering correctly feather fill had no hardener on the first version. Now generation 2 requires a hardener. Basically a sprayable glaze.
These are on clearance now for $14 while supplies last. Just called my local store has 3 left. I'm buying them all.
Pete, I gotta ask you- I used the same product and also found I couldn't strain it, so I went for it anyway, and the gun glogged twice on me..I spray with a gravity gun with a 2.5 mm nozzle..I mixed the primer we'll, but thinking I should take it to my supplier so they can use their mixer instead? Don't know how you pulled it off.
Since the G2 is a basically a polyester type resin using MEKP to kick it, instead of using acetone to reduce it use styrene. I use styrene to reduce polyester blue resin for our surfboard laminating. It’s better. It cures like the resin. I’ve used 50:50 resin:styrene and it all goes off nice and cures fine. You can’t do that reducing with acetone. Test some out first. I’ve cut the feather fill with styrene. It works. Some sellers will argue this. Try it out and see.
So you got the car in bare metal, sprayed it with epoxy primer roughed that up with 80 grit put your bondo on top of that why do you need to use epoxy again?
Thanks for the straight dope on this product and how to use it, along with the prep before you apply it. Once again my friend Pete provides the real skinny on products, helping me as a DIY guy.
Listen your friend Pete my friend Pete and Minnie been doing this going on 75yrs never I mean never put epoxy over bare metal we been using Rust-Oleum primer on every car we sent to sema I have used drywall mud 20min on show cars for years so don't think you have me fooled with this jiber jaber signing off from Australia mate
So confused, you need to watch bad Chad. Your doing it all wrong. Wipe with spray 9 bathroom cleaner then for final clean use windex. Only have to use mixing filter if you remember. Lol have to see to believe Pete
Awesome video. Before you get to do anything you showed in the video. I assume repairs and the block sand the hole car. So do you use 80 Grit then ?? Next?
Feather fill is ok but super build is like sprayable bondo! Expensive af too.. And when epoxy primer is over reduced the stuff i was using acted like it was fish eyeing.
I get what U R saying but don't think U understand as a bodyshop owner your method I would say is the most cost effective using only what's needed & not creating additional work. HOWEVER I feel that when people take there car to the level of laying any polyester primer this is for most a labor of love and I think most people feel they have an opportunity to use polyester and make the entire car laser straight they know it's more work but results can be amazing if ur going that far for many will shoot for perfection but ur method does make logical sense especially as a body shop owner
Polyester can be shot over body filler as long as the car isn't metal. My project is fiberglass no issues.
Thank you for sharing your time and knowledge.
But, what are you trying to say....
Just kidding, great content
I love this channel I learn something new every time!
I had to start putting my body filler in my shop freezer for an HR before using it,it was setting to dang quick.
Good idea
I wanna hear your opinion the restoration shop I worked at we used to feather fill the whole car but we were also blocking the entire car and feather fill was great at filling in smaller imperfections in the body that we couldn’t see or feel…Seems like a waste of material but we were blocking most of the material off body working then priming once if not twice to get the car as straight as you can get it… what’s your opinion on that???
You said the car was ready for paint after you put the feather fill on it so why your not block sanding your body work areas with guide coat ? I've paint in body shops for 40 years and always block out my body work I've used feather fill years ago .. I don't really care for it.
Pete I used the primer you been using and I must say it does not crack up like some of the 2k primers do. when you are blocking your panels do you use a sealer before you paint? what is your favorite paint?
Pete thete is a you tube channel called black stache builds the guy shows stripping a hood with a polisher and 80 grit. He says you cant strip with 36 grit but ive seen you do it. Check him out and see what you think cause you will know for sure.
I bought 2K filler that is a three part the primer to reducer and the Hardner now you’ve got me second-guessing myself the cans outside, so I cannot tell you exactly what it is
Been watching you for years now Pete. Painting my own cars and for friends. Used the old epoxy primer and feather fill products that you are talking about. You're a no bullshit guy and there are a lot of us out here that really appreciate that you share your knowledge with us. Doing a 70' Corvette that I have owned for 35 years. I will replay your video on priming that car at least a dozen more times before priming this car for topcoats. Thanks again Pete!
Same for me …. Pete’s process is the bible on body n paint real world 🌎!!!!!
Use acetone for clean up or cutting any polyester.If bonding fiberglass to steel say flares use epoxy.
This is confusing since you will definitely need to sand the car. What’s the purpose of epoxy primer if it can’t be sanded. ❓❓❓❓
All that beer steal what is your secret besides a kerosene heater that probably stops it from rusting plus it’s like a dehumidifier. I wonder if you have a barometer in your paint booth or shop
What primer is best for high build for 80s plastic bumpers 87 monte carlo
Sorry Bro that is not true i have plenty of friends who spray the whole car have no problems. Only thing i can say is they are wasting money and that is about it but in no way are you messing up your job spraying the whole car.
hey Pete I had a paint gut try sell me epoxy primer that mix 1to1 with activator not hardner my question is should I buy it
Wish I had a shop to use the stuff here I work from my car and even tho 97% of my customers are happy it’s just not as fun to do
just because you're a loud mouth means that you're trying to make your shortage of somebody hears you and you are incorrectly hear you so that's a great that thing to be allowed mouth keep it up
Thank you my friend Pete for giving us the details....we are watching and learning....thank you thank you thank you....
Why can’t you just spray the whole car with the G2 Featherfield?
Wait, so a 70 year old copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a die, creates warped messed up panels? No way!
My friend Pete, looks and sounds like" NICK SABAN"🤣💯
I don’t like the feather fill that uses the MEK drops. I like the one that is the 4:1 mix.
I want take the time to thank you for tips and proper techniques and showing and explaining the correct ways I’ve really learned a lot from you God Bless you Pete
Video would be much more enjoyable to watch if he wasn't yelling thru the whole thing
Bad Chad dude spray it on bare metal. Pete right spray on top of epoxy.
Get the metal straight like you are supposed to and you don't have to use that junk.
Excellent advice
I also use the cheap guns for primer.
It does a good job and like you mentioned, it’s a throw away.
I try and keep the pots and clean them for future use.
Thank you for some great down to earth videos.
If you have time I do however have a question.
I do hobby work. Many times when I am welding in a patch panel, it may be a while before I can get back to finishing it up.
Should I be cleaning it and spraying maybe a self etching primer over it to protect it from flash rust? Or should I just leave it until I can get back to it and clean it then and prime?
Is there and should I use an etching epoxy is there even is such a thing?
And last but not least.
Is there a good filler to be used over bare metal? So many times I have seen paint jobs where the filler separated from the panel.
Thanks again
I'm gonna try using an immersion blender to beat that shit up right in the can prior to adding the resin...
If it works for you cool but I spray bare metal all the way i dont use filler for anything
Pete my friend Pete I know why I like you, your just like me! Excellent job as always.
Thank you My Friend Pete!
My friend Pete you're the greatest. And thank you for your service.
What was the purpose of holding your phone in one hand while spraying with your other hand.
Great vid Pete! Retired 30 year body man now just tinkering in the garage. Can't wait to try this stuff. Only wish we had it back in the day! Good luck with the knees.
Bad chad applies polyester primer over bare metal all the time
Hello Pete thank you so much for showing us the proper way of doing things I pray to God everything goes good for your knee surgeries my father did paint body work all his life he went to school for it down in Tampa he died when I was in junior high school he never got to show me all of the techniques and the reason why there was always those spots where he didn't do the whole car I never knew why thank you so much we love you man I hope everything goes good for you
I saw the episode when you bought this car with the customer. I've been looking and waiting to see this car get built out forever it seems.
You got right Scott. How many engines from Summit? Why the wrong bell housing for that engine / transmission combination? If customer service got it right once, I would be shocked. I am surprised that elastic holds up new under britches anymore. It is crazy.
In the garden center looking to control dandelions! Not hard…
Teenage workers ask and after 3 stacks turns to me & says; “Dandelions are good for you soil, the grow deep roots that let air & water into the yard!” WTF! I said; Girl, you like these, dig them and plant in you mom & dads yard and we’ll both be happy.” I left!
why do you yell everything?
Back in Vietnam he lost most of his hearing training whining brats how to survive without modern technology..
OUR FRIEND PETE!!!!!
Thank you MFP. Nuthin but Knowledge. 🤙🇺🇸
Hey my friend Big Pete , your the man , I take my hat off for you🙏💪🏻👊🏻
Your loud mouth is the best part of you Pete keep telling like it is
I guess clear coat isn't sandable. Its a 2 part that uses a hardner.
I just seen today they have different funnel screens, different sizes
Need too get you a new announcer but enjoy watching your videos .
Follow directions my friend Pete thanks
Man, I wish I could work with you Pete. Thanks for the content buddy. Hope your knees are going in ok.
2 more EXTREMELY PAINFUL DAYS and one knee will be replaced... Thanks for thinking of me!