Moog Subsequent 25 Synth Masterclass. Dig into the essential controls!
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Thank you so much for the shout out! As a long time fan of yours, I am truly honored! Amazing video and great showcase of what this amazing synth can do👏🏼👏🏼 cheers!
Thanks man! Glad to hear it! We’ll have to connect soon!
Great work both of you
I just watched the Midlife S. one too!
Wow, nobody could explain a filer envelope better than you, thank you for this great Sub25 tutorial!
Appreciate it Kev Nor! They're not the easiest things to understand!
I'll never understand why they call it a filter... a filter is something you replace with a new one, then throw the old one in the trash every time you change your oil
Thanks for this wonderful video! I got a Sub 25 about a year back. Glad to see such a detailed video about the synth!
I think I have learned more in 27mins than I have in the last 10 years! Bravo!
Thanks so much SC!
this is one of the best classes on synthesis on TH-cam. Well done, man!
Appreciate it NRTHRN!!
I like everything you do Jef. Always educational.
Thanks! Much appreciated...
This was seriously one of the best tutorials I’ve ever seen!
I love how you don’t just tell me what the modulation/filter does, but you demonstrate it as if you had to do it manually. That really helped me
So good. I’m drooling over this Moog. Great video, as always!
Thanks brother!
That synth lead is beautiful! Incredible demo.
Thanks Jordan!
OMG I have learned more watching a half of this video than the entire last year. You are absolutely brilliant in explaining tough concepts in the most simple manner. I will stay long here and make a good use of stuff I will learn here! Thanks a million times! 🙏
Man Piotr, really appreciate that!!
Completly amazing tutorial Thanks so very much
LOVE Lisa Bella Donna shout out. She is magic.
Love that synth the sounds wow amazing . Thank you so much Jef you are an amazing Artist 😃
Thanks so much! Yeah, the synth is great!
I have one of these & this video was SO helpful! Thank you so much! 🤘
Glad to hear it Ralph!
Best how to vid ever. Thx!
Great explanation
It seems to sound less harsh than the 37, I love it. Great video, great music, thanks!
This really is a masterclass. The whole envelope generator concept was always hard for me to get my head around - this cleared it up so nicely!
So glad to hear that, thanks for commenting Jamison!!
It's like sometimes the envelopes don't do shit... but then decide to produce an effect whenever they decide they're feel like doing their job
Good tutorial, Jef. 👍 I just picked an S25 for myself!, so this was definitely helpful. I’m so impressed with this synth, it sounds incredible and it has a gorgeous design. Just such a joy to play. Also a plus that you can use it as a MIDI controller; it makes navigating software synths about 1000x more enjoyable!
Glad you're digging it Dan, thanks for commenting!
Very interesting & useful video, nice one 👍 I bought this keyboard as it sounds great, looks traditional, not too complicated & is quite small. It's also very handy being able to save 16 sounds - a nice amount. It's easy to find & save a few funk sounds, but I'm digging in, especially under the hood to find more dynamic & unusual sounds. What I love is playing keys with one hand, while using a knob for expesssion with the other hand. The Moog ep -3 pedal works great too, especially used in the filter input.
We just tracked S25 through a ‘78 215 Bassman. D112 and SM57 in front, 2 Coles ribbons in back of room stereo. Everyone was amazed! Keyboard player wants it at next tracking day this week!
Very Clear Video， awesome！
Wow!! The Moog Sub!! Classic... Great vid Unc Jef. All i got is the Micro/ Korg Synthesizer vocoder .. luv it!!
Thanks V! I've got the Microkorg too, it's great!! Gotta do a vid on it...
@@jefgibbons Definitely!! Tht be great!! Thx again for great vid 💯
Also,I like your shirt! I've had his Oxygen LP for over 30 yrs.
Good stuff..I saw midlife synthesis video as well.
He’s got great content!
Big thanks for this vid, it helped kickstarting this bad boy ;)
That’s great, enjoy it!
I bought one with the first stimulus check. I figured I’d never have these sounds if I didn’t have one. I’m a drummer, but when you say “I have a Moog”, band mates get excited because you have a bass/lead/noise machine at your disposal. You may not use it on everything, but I wouldn’t want to be in the studio without the option.
So true! This is almost the easiest way to get that title... I should make a shirt! "I have a Moog"
Thank u
These low end frequencies of a moog are just something else. I dont know what it is, but they feel so primal
I completely agree!
I had one for a while. When I started experimenting with transposing I ran into a problem where I couldn't untranspose a presets. I ended up losing presets as a result, because I would no longer use the preset that had been transposed, and no matter what I did, I couldn't get that patch back to standard pitch. The solution offered by Moog was to send it in and wait over a month to get it back. If you have one of these, avoid transposing the keyboard at all costs.
That's a bit ridiculous, thanks for sharing!
讲解的真棒
I had to sell my Model D and bought this as a consolation. It’s great on it’s own and makes a nice midi CC control surface for plug in instruments that support MIDI learn.
Yeah! Using it as a controller is a great tip!
Did you sell the Behringer’s model D?
@@yeppy013 No. It was a real Model D.
I bought a Subsequent 25 two months ago.i love it! Haven't even spent any time with the software tutorial,but I have been creating some cool musical tones. I'm so glad I bought this Moog! I used to have an original Arp Odessey that I lent to a supposed friend who sold it on eBay.anyway,I never liked slide controls! I was always second guessing what I was doing.Not so with the Moog! I love tweeking the sound while playing.and the 25 is built to Old School Moog standards!
What did you pay for your synth ?
@@FlyguyLV I think about $795.00. I am happy! It is built to the standards that they were back in the early 70's.It's still an Employee Owned company.I think that's why it's still built like a tank! All steel chassis, with solid wood sides.controls and weighted keys are second to none!
@@chrispicquet733 I went ahead and bought this one for 675 it looks clean can’t wait to play with it been at work all day
I guess it needs a sequencer or a drum machine to accompany it ?
@@FlyguyLV Jim, your going to love it!! The main reason the musician's buy Moog is the Filter section!( Second to none in the Synth world.) Only 16 presets, compared to the Subsequent 37's 100's .but I like dialing it in Analog style! That is the only way to get a handle on this Synth.most new synth players rely on presets,but never learn how an Analog Synthesizer really works! That is the Key to Nirvana! Enjoy!
V.interesting...subscribed
Still on my list as the only analog synth I want, but dang price went up from $849 to $999 brand new! Any higher then I might have to get a Subsequent 37. Great explanations on synthesis especially with the manual comparisons to visualize the modulators!
So weird watching tech prices go up... can't remember that happening in the past!
@@jefgibbons inflation. And it's going to get much worse despite what the political class says
$1199 now
I have a Korg mini microstation and moog 25 how can i connect them together thank you for sharing your information.
I have the Sub 37 TE and use it with the Eventide Space..
hey bro excelente video amigos saludos desde Baja California tijuana
Appreciate it! Wish I was there… not warm here…
Nice one…love the frames you’re wearing - where did you get these from? I have the sub25 and you really are teasing some nice sounds from it man…
I have no idea why any manufacturer today would not include a sine wave for the LFO? Maybe it's hidden in the software control?
Hey Jef, I’m a fellow Maschine MK3 user, and was wondering: can you use the arp function of Maschine to control the Subsequent 25? I was doing some research and saw it doesn’t have an arpeggiator and was kinda bummed. But if I could use the Maschine for this it wouldn’t be an issue!
For sure! Maybe another future video...
Damn there goes my money
Beautiful video! Would you recommend its synth bass for modern pop productions?
Definitely a great pop bass synth!!
Is there a way to name the presets you save in the editor? Thanks
Does the Sub37 have all of the sounds from this 25?
Great video . I wondered if I could ask a question. I just bought a moog 25 and a key step pro. Would these be able to work together . I’m kind of intimidated to pull the keystep out of the box …. Not sure how to hook it all up
Hey Jim! Late reply... but definitely! You'll get more range on the key step. Just plug them both into your computer, make sure both are active with MIDI in your DAW and then choose to route the MIDI from you Keystep to the Moog. What DAW are you using?
Question: I just bought one of these and I’m trying to hear the difference in wave form in oscillator 1 and I don’t hear anything but a short pitch but nothing sustained.. do I need to have this plugged into a computer or something?
I followed the patch initialization instructions in the manual
I m a bit confused about envelope amount. What’s the difference between half way right and all the way right? Does it represent the scaling/distance from initial cut off filter position to maximum?
Yeah, so you set your envelope, then if it's at 12:00 nothing is happening with the envelope. As you crank it to the right it affects the thing (like the filter) more and more with whatever your envelope is set to. If you crank it before 12:00 it'll affect things in a negative way!
I had no idea how to use my moog before this 😂
I may be guilty of watching my own vid when I forget something!
Do you know if the sub37 has a software editor just like the 25?
Having trouble finding these patches that you said Lisa Bella Donna put out lol >__
I have a question about envelopes section.
Top row is control filter (Cut off), and Down row is control oscillators section. Am I right?
So eg amount is how much envelope to filter? Lol
And did Subsequent 25 has arpeggio function?
can you add a bigger range midi keyboard for more octaves?
Absolutely! Any controller will work…
So I could j hook this up to my keystep pro ?
I will never sell mine!!
BASS SYNTH FOR ALL MY MUSIC!!
Thanks. Sorry, can I save a preset on this synth ?
Definitely! It can only store 16 on board, but unlimited on the computer.
@@jefgibbons thanks
Must not give in to GAS...
The struggle is real!
lmao !!
Yeah buddy had this unit for awhile and it rumbles
It's a beast!
I’m about to 675 for a moog subsequent 25 . Is this a good deal? Never played with a synth before
Hi Jim, that's a great price for a powerful synth! Just remember that it's basically monophonic, so you can't play chords on it (it can play two notes at once in a weird duophonic mode) But it's great for bass and lead patches, and an excellent synth to learn on!
I bought a keystep pro to try sequencing . Can’t wait to figure all this gear out but so far I LoVE the moog 25
You use different cameras. Take care that you choose always the pictures of the camera in which direction you are talking to. Sometimes it was obvious that you where focused on camera A but played the footage of camera B. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Btw. I also like the midlife synthesis a lot.
Is it bad I want the t-shirt as much as the synth? LOL :)
Nope! And you can get your very own at www.redbubble.com I should really become an affiliate!
@@jefgibbons LOL :) Thank you. JMJ is why I got into creating electronic music in the first place and the only time I've been able to get good t-shirts was at his live shows. Have a great day.
@@zoolook3264 same here! Cassette tapes of Oxygen and Magnetic Fields from my older cooler cousin when I was a kid!! I was obsessed...
@@jefgibbons Some artists just touch you in a different way, you know? That's how Jarre has always been to me. The latest album we are working on I wrote a track dedicated to Jarre and is heavily inspired by a combination of the Oxygene and Equinoxe albums. I'm on a Magnetic Fields album kick ATM, Magnetic Fields 4 I just love. One people overlook but it's a very emotional track to me. Keep up the awesome videos, this was excellent.
I meant gibbons
I'm in need of help. I bought a used SUB 25 around 3 weeks ago. And it's been a great little synthesizer. That was until yesterday as I was trying to install the firmware. The entire unit is locked up on me with only the LFO blinking rapidly. No sound, or any other signs of life are present. This is even after cutting power then activating again
The operator's manual and website gives no kind of details or warnings about this possibly happening in the event that the firmware fails to upload. It doesn't even mention a hard reset procedure, which is what I'm needing just to make it operable again
I cannot believe that moog would allow such a potential disaster of a feature pass quality control. This is piss poor design on someone's part. I haven't even been able to comprehend some of the explained procedures for use of the firmware. Maybe if I were a programmer and a software hustler I would understand this
Is Marlon gibbins your brother
DUDE! Can't believe you asked that, I JUST made contact with him last week!! We're not related as far as we can tell... but it is likely. (My ancestors settled in his area)
@@jefgibbons lol I follow him and it just dawned on me that your last names are the same. Maybe it's a sign for something greater to come.
Ohhhh all that typical old digital watch and geek glasses put me off and I was right, didn't even show us where all those wires are coming and going to and from, we need BTS content here, now is not the time to be shy kids you're on TH-cam now.
This was very informative. Now I just have to make a tough descision........Sub 25, or Grandmother?
Or Korg Monologue?