92% of guitarist are tuning WRONG
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- Tuning your guitar isn't always as simple as it sounds. I deal with tuning guitars on a daily basis as a producer. Its a struggle but its definitely worth it when you figure out the best ways to do it. Today I share 6 tips on how to get the best guitar tuning so you don't bother your neighbors or the people at guitar center.
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Did you know any of these tuning tips? Got any tips of your own??
You can tune down, you just have to bend the slack out. I challenge you to a guitar duel.
Tune open strings to fretted strings 5-7-9 and fretted octaves.
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These are great tips I didn't know I was already doing :)
One cool addition I learned long ago that I never see anyone doing - for stretching strings:
- Reach over with both hands
- Grip the string around around 1/3 of the length in from each end (dividing the string into 3 parts)
- Wiggle up and down in opposite directions
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This stretches the string with double the tension while keeping a straighter pull at the bridge and nut..
Great channel, I will now subscribe..
as a SG Player I learned this early on and It Changed THE GAME. Also love that color!
It’s something people just don’t always think about. And thanks! I love this Les Paul haha 🤣
Lots of great tips here. I've been doing the same for years. One other thing I suggest is that when you're playing gigs, at the end of the set tune up before break and it'll be ready for your next set. If you wait till the break is over your guitar will cool down and the strings will have to heat up again to be in tune during the set
That’s always good to do for sure. Once you tune it and come back they can kind of settle in.
Another great video! Thanks!
Thanks for watching 😁
Back in the mid 60's when I was a kid.... TV stations would sign off air at 1:00am.... they played a continuous high pitch signal until they came back on air. You could fret the 2'nd/B string on the 3'rd fret and tune to the pitch of the sign off signal.... from there on' all you had to do was use the..... tune at the 7'th fret method.
That would put you in 440 pitch tuning.
That has to be the coolest comment I’ve seen so far! Didn’t know that. Very creative way of tuning.
Danny Gatton would use the dial tone from the landline phones. Can't remember if he said it was in F or F#
So I used to tune pianos as a hobby. One thing I learned is that you tune hard to really set the string. By this I mean that while tuning a string up to pitch (always up as in guitar), you hit the key pretty hard and continually while tuning up. My piano tunings will last a long time, maybe with an occasional tweak on a string or two every couple of years (depends on the piano). Now I tune a lot of guitars using the same technique. With a new set of strings, I’ll stretch them and tune up, about four times. While I’m tuning up, I strike the string pretty hard, like a big strum. I find my guitars stay in tune a lot longer. Same with classical guitars, but they always go flat. Ha!
That’s awesome! How long does it take to tune a piano usually? And that makes sense, it’s kind of similar to my stretching/bending technique. I really do find once you get a string broken in it’ll stay more often. Classical guitars are just an untamed beast haha. Still love em though
@@ProducerJosh It depends on how out of tune the piano is. Sometimes you basically have to tune it twice. A good tuner can tune a piano that is not too far off in an hour or hour and a half. It used to take me a good three hours. I used what the call the Small A tuning method. You tune by flattening the fifths and sharpening the fourths.
I didn’t realize how long it could really take. Makes sense though. I’ve known there are different tunings, curious to dive into that in application to guitar. I have a Peterson strobe tuner that has different tuning options.
Thanks for the tips. It really helps.
Glad I could help. I appreciate you watching!
the main thing i've learned from years of live shows, especially outdoors, take your guitar out of it's case and let it acclimatise to the room/outdoor conditions/stage for 1 or 2 hours, then tune just before the show. before i knew this, and used an SG, the guitar would go wildly out of tune during a song, having been tuned moments before. I never understood why.
That is a great tip. I forgot about that one ☝️ but it’s very true. The temperature and humidity can have a drastic effect on instruments. Drums too! I prefer the guitar coffin holders for this situation too. Less chance of being knocked over on traditional stands
Great advice! Letting the Instrument get used to the humidity, really helpful!
It even applies indoors too! I try not to put guitars directly under AC vents because it’ll be colder than when you’re playing it so it can change it as you record
Jerry Donahue told me years ago that tuning is always a compromise. He is correct.
It really is. Can’t get it perfect, but you can get close if you meet in the middle
55 years in spanking the plank I can say that this gentleman here is 100% legit
Thank you kindly! 🤘
Tune up to the note learned that one long ago 👏👏👏
I think that should be like step 1 of learning tuning 🤘
Locking tuners will solve that problem.
I'm happy to be among the 8% and also use to stretch new strings.
May your guitar forever be in tune! 👑
Good tips 👍
I always tug on the Low E, G and B string when I tune (as opposed to bending). I discovered decades ago that doing this, by the fifth or sixth time I've tuned the strings after replacing them, the guitar basically never goes out of tune. I can play my Strat for an hour and a half, put it away for a couple days and then pull it out and play it for a couple minutes. When I check the tuning, one or MAYBE two strings will be ever so slightly flat or sharp. Honestly to this day I'm surprised how well they stay in tune.
*Oh, and I use pure nickel wrapped strings instead of plated wounds. I find them to have a much more stable tuning. I'm not a metallurgists so I can't tell you what's going on, just that it is. I also find that some guitars that have a little fret buzz in some spots will lose the buzz with the nickel wound. I wont say they all go away, but I've had a couple guitars with slight buzzing on one string that would go away completely with nickel strings, only to return if I used a regular set.
Thanks for watching! Yeah on the low strings it can help a lot. I hardly have to tune once I get the strings broken in. What kind of strat do you have?
I also LOVE nickel over nickel. I think they also sound better than wrapped over steel strings. I’m not sure why either but I know vintage strings were nickel over nickel. So maybe they figured something out back then. I think the steel strings were just people breaking thin nickel strings
@@ProducerJosh at this point I don't know if it's a Partscaster or just a mutt, but it's the body from my 08 Eric Johnson Strat with a 2021EJ Rosewood neck. I've been using Fluence single coils for the last 8 or 9 months, but I'm going back to the stock EJ pickup. And I keep the tremolo decked against the body flush.
I've been repairing guitars and amps for 20+ years. With guitars, people usually know what they need done when they bring them in: setup, refret, pickup swap, etc. Something rarer but infinitely more rewarding is when someone comes in looking for a result: make it play like this, sound like that, look like that, etc.
Far and away, the most common is to make a new guitar sound old. Unless they're looking for pickups are something specific, the first thing I suggest is nickel strings. It's a very different thing. They don't have the punch or output of steel strings, but they have a now organic sound. When you strum them unplugged, it sounds like a quiet acoustic, as opposed to an unplugged electric.
EDIT: now do a video letting players know that pickup height adjustment screws and tone controls actually serve a purpose, and you would have helped more than 90% of the "how to achieve a great (or at least serviceable) tone," videos.
Ahh okay, I’ve heard good things about EJ guitars. My Strat in the video is a parts caster with a chubtone harness. I think the guy made pickups for EJ. Sounds great. Fluency have been iffy for me.
That’s an interesting thought. I get what you mean though. I think I run into that question more often. Not knowing exactly what they need but what they’re looking for. I love working on guitars and amps. Although my amp knowledge is still small.
That could be a good video! How to adjust your tone for free. There’s a lot of minor things that can be looked at
@@ProducerJosh one of the most common complaints that has one of the easiest fixes is that "Les Paul bridge pickups sound too thin." At times it's true, I've played through thin sounding LPs. At the same time it seems like 80% of them don't have the bridge pickup angled correctly with the strings. They have them more or less running parallel or flush with the pickup rings; but the strings come down at a pretty significant angle from the bridge towards the neck.They the up sounding like P90 because one coil is significantly closer to the strings than the other. If they realized that is why there's 3 height adjustment screws, one to set the angle and two to set the height, I swear half of those complaints would vanish.
That's a 3 minute video, might be worth it.
Yes, the EJs are great. I wouldn't sell this particular one for 3X the price.
…Admittedly part of that is because I have 2X it's value already sunk into it.
Isn’t that for older style LPs? I’ve seen some with the 3 screws but not all. I actually have a LP with very unbalanced pickups. Can’t set the amp to have them switch between nicely, whatever I’ve try.
It’s hard for me to sell any guitar honestly haha
very helpful, thanks
I appreciate ya watching! Glad I could help
Great tipss, most guitarist spend half of their life tuning their instruments.
Thanks! And that’s so true 😫
I barely have to tune because I have decent guitars, with extended scale length, set up well, with DR brand guitar strings.
@5:20 Hey Josh! how do you get that sound?
That’s just guitar rig on the fender twin amp. Default setting, bridge pickup on the Les Paul!
One trick that I learned by myself is to stretch the strings by pushing them next to the bridge and between the tuners and the nut.
Ooo that’s a cool one. I do that as an effect sometimes on the tuner and nut side
Great advices
Thank you!
Clicked this just to see the blue Les Paul….
It is probably my coolest looking guitar 😎 might have to make another video with it
What about locking tuners...?
I heard it is the oposite...
It just becomes common sense to listen to what your guitar sounds like as your playing it.
I think it takes some people more time than others to start really listening to their own playing. I’ve noticed everyone takes their guitar journey differently
It was in tune when I bought it!
Once it’s out of tune, gotta return it
It drives me nut's if can't just tune up to the tuner... Cause it sounds off, i have to detune low a and low e on every guitar i have... Exept the evertune...
That's the only system i had that really is stable in my ears... Downside: the bend's do not "react" as on other guitar's... You have to set it up really fine and carefull if you wanna have the full bending mojo as on normal guitar's...
I tried one evertune and it was pretty interesting playing it with the no bend setting. It’s rare to hear a guitar so in tune when you play. I bet I’ll have one someday
I'm pretty sure it's only 91 percent
9.12% maybe
Stretching the strings has nothing to do with "kinks" but fully seating each wrap on the tuning peg. Once you start to having to retune every string after playing once, you should consider replacing it since the metal is starting to yield. By retuning the string each time it happens, you're stretching the string until it will invariably snap.
I would say that I meant it as a generalization as to what a string could need to settle in to its wrap. It absolutely helps seat it in the peg. If you have a string binding on the nut, it can help too. How long have you found a string to have until it needs replacement or breaks altogether?
@@ProducerJosh It's a bit hard to say, maybe 4-6 months. I don't play guitar as often as I used to. But that also depends on the brand. In my hands, Ernie Balls lose their brightness sooner than D'addarios, for example.
..use and trust your ears. Every electronic tuner and app is different. Just because the tuner says the instrument is in tune does not mean that the intonation of the instrument will play in tune. You will need to tune to the key of the music to be played. Every instrument plays differently and has a different intonation. This is where the magic comes from. A new guitar can appear to write the music ...
Big fan of using the ear. Some times tuners are wonky or the guitar wants something slightly different from “perfect”
Are you sure its 92% and not 91 or 93?
Could even be 94% 🤔
what do you mean? that it go first over it and then still turn green? instead of green and then go down?
Which part are you talking about to be specific? When strumming a note? Or tuning up and not down
@@ProducerJosh uhm sorry for my english..
i meant just all about the tuning Up..
you mean then tuning it that it goes beyond green but still is green?.. instead of it goes green and then under..
idk if you get what i mean with my english,
i have the same round tuner. and i only play now13 weeks but i always tuned it and it went green. but then it goes down if you let it ring longer.. and i tried to tune up a bit more, that it goes over the middle, and then back green, (so because of that i thought you maybe meant this)..
that its still green, but more up,then down the middle (green)
and then specially with the highest 3 strings. because bending them will make it down a bit..
but i can be wrong.. i hope its a bit understandable like this what i say.
@@dabiededoo ahhhh yes I understand now. So for that problem, I try to keep strumming while I’m tuning. So I’m tuning for the strike and not the ring out. Just try not to strike it once and let it ring for a while and tune. Strum not fast but repeating and tune to that. See how that works for you
@@ProducerJosh ahhh oke i understand now..
thanks im going to try that way
@@ProducerJosh i have another question.
maybe you know some more then me..
i want to buy next month a CV stratocaster (or jaguar) what is best for blues?.. Cv 50s 60s 70s or jaguar 70s?.. like jaguar to. but idk what they mean with it has a short scale
And this is why all albums sound in tune?Most of them?I would say 92%...
Depends on the style of music. But not everyone that plays guitar has an album. This is geared towards new guitarists wanting to get better at their craft
I read about the first tip 35 years ago. I thought it was common knowledge.
I used to think a lot of stuff I knew was common knowledge to be honest. But the more I talk to random people and friends I realize there are a lot of beginners that might not know. It’s kind of what makes me do these videos.
Pretty sure it's 94%
Let’s call it 93.99%
JAMES SCOTT NICHOLSON,ONTARIO, CANADA 🇨🇦 YOU TUNED DROP “D” BY LOWERING NOT BELOW AND UP TO . YOUR WORDS, YOU SAY NOT TO, AND DO IT YOURSELF.🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
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PRODUCER JOSH, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 🇺🇸 THANKS FOR USING ALL CAPS. Shooting a video is a lot going on at one time. I might’ve not done it that second but that doesn’t mean I don’t do it 94% of the time 😉
Was this a suggested topic from youtube?
Nope, recorded some guitars and thought it would be helpful to share how to get them more in tune 🎵
@@ProducerJosh the reason i asked is another youtuber keyan houshmand live put out almost exactly the same video a couple days ago
Literally just saw that as I posted mine 🤣 I watched it and it was good! But yeah I just had tuning on my mind based on projects. Haven’t tried the TH-cam suggestions as much yet
tell us, how did you come up with the 92%. lol.
I had a different title and asked my friend and he just randomly suggested it 😂 so I rolled with it
93% of all statistics are made up on the spot is an old adage
Hey man, a tip for you, you bend the notes very badly , as a player of 2 decades, we can tell when the string is not bent in a comfortable way, which might bring all kinds of complications for both your fingers and your frets and strings, u gotta work on that
Little rusty as I focus on the studio side of things a lot lately. Always looking to improve myself though. Gotta get back to playing more regularly
*guitarists
"Suttle trick"wth r u talking about fender has been telling ppl to tune up for decades
Not everyone knows that. Imagine you just got a guitar. You wouldn’t know anything about it. I worked at Sam ash and people would actually come and ask to have a guitar tuned
"INCORRECTLY"
92% of TH-camr*s* aren't using adverbs correctly.
I’ll remember that for next time. I also forgot to put guitarists instead too. I’d like to think TH-camrs think of titles like song lyrics. Sometimes grammatically correct doesn’t sound as catchy. Some probably don’t realize though 🤷♂️
@@ProducerJosh It's a really common thing, and yeah, you're absolutely correct. The other egregious one is "for cheap" as opposed to "cheaply". Can't escape the things that get the clicks, a necessary evil eh?
i haven't watched yet but i already know the answer is no
Then you’ll be shocked 😮
@@ProducerJoshno we wont we all know about intonation
@@Durkhead this surprisingly isn’t about intonation. Although that’s important, it’s only one piece of the puzzle. Most guitars are just not perfect. There’s also certain aspects people don’t think about
Only cowboys play in tune
Don’t make me sing thin lizzy 🎤 I AM JUST A COWBOY
Yawn 🥱
no ones perfect but apparently I have to be.... 🤟🙃
We just try our best haha