i have a 2020 premium se hybrid top of the range had it brand new sept 1 2020 theres no clunky gear change im getting 60 plus mpg no matter how i drive it my wife and myself love it
Just bought this car yesterday. It is a good running smooth driving car. Since I purchased the limited model, the interior is on par with other luxury vehicles. At 57 mpg, you can't go wrong. Only gripe is that I only get 28 miles per full charge, and my work commute is 32 miles. So I have to use one half gallon to return home everyday. Not a big deal though. That means I'll have to fill up every 3 weeks.
I think you are the only reviewer that prefers a CVT over a DCT. I personally dislike CVT's and would buy this car over a Prius for that reason alone. Otherwise, excellent review.
Test drove this vehicle twice (in France) - going out tomorrow to buy one! Perhaps there are a couple of niggles, but so much stuff packed into the vehicle for the price.
Hi Paul! I regularly watch your videos without fail. You cover many topics that other reviewers doesn't. I got few suggestions. 1) Can you separate the EVs from Hybrids in your playlist? 2) And please do a comparison on the Volvo XC40 Recharge Pure Electric vs 2022 Kona Electric vs Tesla Model 3. 3) Focus mainly on the base models of the car models so everyone would know what they are getting at the base level. Almost every reviewers take the premium level car that many cannot afford. 4) One last thing, please get more EVs on your show. I honestly love the V8 and V6s. But the periodic maintenance and the nuances that come along with it is the issue. You have to remember basically everything like anniversaries and birthdays. That is the only plus point I find in EVs and makes me feel like getting one. So, if you start putting more EVs review I am pretty sure, many will follow suit. Thank you so much Paul! You are doing great, mate. Well done. Cheers!
As long as the engine clutch stays open in electric mode I do not see one pedal function being a issue for ioniq hev/phev it just needs to be mapped with progressive regen it’s all or nothing no progressive regen however dialing it back to 0 you still get full range and control of regen braking through the brake pedal so there’s that too bad Hyundai did not set up one pedal/ipedal function on ioniq hev& PHEV Another concern that’s been voiced about the ioniq HEV and PHEV is when the ICE turns on to run defrost/heater Its also providing power via 2 to charge the HV battery and power to the traction motor so it’s not just running to provide heat the ioniq should have a resistive heater as the Prius does
Hi Paul I have a question that I have yet to have answered about the Ioniq Plug-In: If you take it with its battery virtually empty to the top of a long downhill run and put it on max regen, can you completely fill up the battery from that alone? Eg If I drive from Lithgow to Katoomba on EV only and use most of the battery, say, and then I coast on regen all the way down the mountains to Penrith. When I arrive at Penrith do I have a full battery again in this car? I think the descent is from about 1km above sea level to close to sea level, so I've pretty much dropped 1000m.
I'm not familiar with the area but do mind that while these battery packs can take much more energy than what full hybrids can take (that are usually filled after 10minutes or so of a descend) they are still limited on how fast they can fill up, the rule of thumb is that to 100% they take at least one hour (1C) so to charge completely the battery you should have a constant descend that takes at least one hour.
I agree with you on the regenerative braking, I love the car but there is a drop before coming to a complete stop thus I’m having to use the foot pedal..
Interesting fact with this car is that the battery/hybrid system is limited to 50% power unless you put it in sport mode. Makes a huge difference. Lucky that it seems all your models there have rear vents, only the limited has it here.
Obviously you have the wrong idea of the Plug in gear system, it works great, I have a plug in the first registed in Melbourne for 2020, The regen system is great, and the paddle driving works a treat, my previous vehicle was camry hybrid, which had no depth of battery for EV mode, where the plug in works down to a very low level of battery charge, the plug in 1.6 motor is as fast as the camry 2.4 but more fuel efficient.
@@CarExpertAus I have experinced the jarring a few times. but it seems so seldom it is not a turnoff. this is a budget mans car so do not expect miracles.
With the Paddles; I have not driven the PHEV, but i have driven the electric and the left paddle will bring the car to a complete stop, with re-gen, by pulling it and holding it - which makes for one pedal driving! - We thought it worked quite well. But perhaps that's not the case for the PHEV?!
the one pedal driving may not able to auto stop. but apart from that I think it works just fine with the 3 levels of regen. it does however have auto hold and you can buttom start from zero using the smart cc
Hello Which car I should buy Hyundai Ioniq Hybrid or Toyota Corolla Hybrid? Features wise Hyundai giving more options but how about the engine performance on long span? Could you give me some idea on it??
Hey Malav, thanks for the email. The Ioniq has much more room inside than the Corolla, but the Corolla is more dynamic to drive. The Corolla is also cheaper to service with capped price servicing (in Australia at least).
@@CarExpertAus :) wow thank you so much for the reply. Corolla is going out of my budget. Also here in Brampton, ON, Canada Ioniq's auto insurance is $450/Monthly in Corolla it is $600/Monthly. Is there any problem in Ioniq engine? Or in terms of engine both car are reliable?
Hello Dear, thanks for the overview. it was usefull to get more details on this car. Question here. Did you have a chance to estimate the real average distance running only on electricity. They say 63 kilometeres but I strongly believe that in real it might be different perhaps ? Thanks.
Thank you for your information. What about if you turn on heating or an air conditioning. Still able to use EV mode onlly and no petrol engine running ?
@@ivanstoimenov9762 There is no electric heater, so the engine turns on for the heat. This isn't a bad thing IMO, the range drop in EV mode from electric heating wouldn't be worth it, and if there is something gasoline engines are really good at, it is making heat. So I always start a winter trip in hybrid mode, get the cabin warm, then switch to EV. For the AC, you can stay in pure electric, but it slightly drops the range of the car. in the hot summers, you can still get around 29 miles of EV range with AC on, but maybe 34-35 with it off mostly driving city streets.
I’ve driven an full electric Ionic, and what I’ve noticed is it slowly down really fast and I’d have to Excelerator again to get to the intersection. Fully electric ionics are a really nice car to drive though.
I think you're in the minority regarding DCT. The Audi A3 E-Tron has DCT as well and people seem to really enjoy that despite the reliability issues their having. Ioniqs, at least, seem to be much more reliable.
I think it's one of those things you'd get used to, but outside of a Porsche PDK, I'm yet to come across a dual-clutch transmission that is fuss free in comparison to a torque converter.
DCT is a strange choice for a hybrid where it takes away from the regenerative braking somewhat. Not ideal for stop and go either. It would interesting to see how the clutches hold up.
Does the car come with a “battery save” mode so you can choose when to use the battery? Also is there a hold charge option if you want the battery to hold the charge at a set level?
Good question, @CarLover! As far as I could tell there's no way to do either of those functions. You can definitely do this in other PHEVs like the Outlander, but I don't think it's possible in the Ioniq PHEV.
Ioniq PHEV owner here: Yes, there is a HEV/EV toggle mode that lets you maintain state of charge on the battery. Driving in "Sport" mode even lets you recharge the battery while taking a hit in fuel economy in hybrid mode (drops from 55mpg to 35-45mpg while charging the battery). This could be useful in a pinch if you're on a highway and might hit city center traffic at some point.
driving one for a month put it in neutral and it runs forever…must be the low drag. the speed number for the cruise control is way to small. hate that hitting the minus regen paddle does not cancel the cc. first you cancel the cc and then you can break with the regen. stupid design. love the bluelink app so I can remote control and monitor the the charging of the battery. the car will connect to Hyundais servers. you will get a notification when charging is at 100% or if there is a charge mishap that can happen with the kettle lead charger. agree on the carplay using all of they screen. but not so with andriod auto. none of them are wireless.
agree that the dsg gearbox seems pointless. even in sportsmode it seems to not let you rev beyound 5500 revs. but the dsg box as such is fine and not klonky.
very very nice ,, but can you also talk a little about the noise levels inside the car .. and also when does the car switch between the gas and electric mode?? i guess you cant chose to switch yourself right? and whats the down side of dual clutch transmission?
@@bluecent Doesn't work like that. It's not the 90's anymore, where you could spray a super hot base and clear then have it come out like glass. Doing that these days would be far from VOC compliant. Even then, while it looked nice for the first few years, the layers of paint were thinner and the clear would fail because of the solvents. Manufacturers were mandated to switch to low/zero VOC primers and sealers, high solid clears and water based paint. Nowadays with water based paint and heavy solids, you get more long term protection and thicker paint. The problem is what is the "acceptable factory finish" set by the quality department, based on factory cost, efficiency, environmental (i.e. environmental compliance) factors and what they deem most customers will accept. Because of cost and environmental factors factories will paint using the lowest pressure possible for their "acceptable factory finish" while preventing overspray. Overspray to a manufacturer is lost materials and added pollution. The lower pressure in conjunction with thicker clear and slow drying waterborne paint results in orange peel in modern cars.
One thing that annoy's the heck outta me ,tesla 'fanboys' whinging about how rubbish all the other car companies are at making electric vehicles and how Tesla are so superior in every tiny little way while apart from the ridiculous price of Tesla's wondrous machines that will pretty much end that wonderful relationship you had with your bank manager. I'm pretty sure that when car companies over take tesla in mass production of quality EV's Tesla's days will be numbered because nobody will buy a 60,000+ dollar car when they can buy one at 25,000+ dollars so either Tesla seriously cuts its ridiculous prices or it gets hammered into extinction.
After 10 years of "the competition is coming" for Tesla, we are still waiting. At best, the competition is coming all over itself. Oh, yes, full disclosure, I am a Tesla owner.
Well mate you must have a lemon if you are having a clunky gear shift, my hybrib phev is dead smooth, and you did not mention the gear shift system of paddles or sports mode, it is easy to chirp the tyres with this gear box, all and all Hyundai have done a great job.
Ok here is my two cents worth; 1. Needs a bigger engine, the Toyota Prius initially tried this 1.6L engine and it was not powerful enough. I think the engine should be bigger like a camry hybrid 2.5L to generate more power. 2. Needs a bigger battery. Something like 30kwh would be nice. 3. Make it an 8 speed auto. CVT is crap. = much better car!
Just doesn’t make any sense. If you can do even basic math you will never recover the additional cost against fuel savings. If you then include the higher maintenance and the depreciation for a non bev, just really dumb.
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i have a 2020 premium se hybrid top of the range had it brand new sept 1 2020 theres no clunky gear change im getting 60 plus mpg no matter how i drive it my wife and myself love it
One big issue with the newest cars is that they have keyless entry
That's fine in itself but it makes them all vulnerable to relay attacks
Just bought this car yesterday. It is a good running smooth driving car. Since I purchased the limited model, the interior is on par with other luxury vehicles. At 57 mpg, you can't go wrong. Only gripe is that I only get 28 miles per full charge, and my work commute is 32 miles. So I have to use one half gallon to return home everyday. Not a big deal though. That means I'll have to fill up every 3 weeks.
Is it not possible to charge while at work?
I think you are the only reviewer that prefers a CVT over a DCT. I personally dislike CVT's and would buy this car over a Prius for that reason alone. Otherwise, excellent review.
loved how informative that was and not a 5 min review.. surely a corolla zr hatch review coming up
That's great to hear - really appreciate it. We have a stack of reviews coming - Corolla included!
@@CarExpertAus Because this review of the IONIQ Was your first review in The Channel CarExpert
good to see u back mate, definitely one of the best oz car reviewers alongside chasing cars
Thank you! Glad to be back :-D
Skip Ahead:
Ioniq Exterior: 1:09
Ioniq Interior: 2:26
Ioniq Infotainment: 3:06
Ioniq Features: 8:33
Ioniq Practicality: 9:57
Ioniq on the Road: 13:47
Verdict: 22:00
Great review format. Thorough, concise and down to earth. Looking forward to more.
The little peak power lesson was a winner too. 👍
Thanks, C J! We appreciate the comment.
Test drove this vehicle twice (in France) - going out tomorrow to buy one! Perhaps there are a couple of niggles, but so much stuff packed into the vehicle for the price.
Congratulations, Geri! Enjoy your new car 😁
Hi Paul! I regularly watch your videos without fail. You cover many topics that other reviewers doesn't. I got few suggestions.
1) Can you separate the EVs from Hybrids in your playlist?
2) And please do a comparison on the Volvo XC40 Recharge Pure Electric vs 2022 Kona Electric vs Tesla Model 3.
3) Focus mainly on the base models of the car models so everyone would know what they are getting at the base level. Almost every reviewers take the premium level car that many cannot afford.
4) One last thing, please get more EVs on your show. I honestly love the V8 and V6s. But the periodic maintenance and the nuances that come along with it is the issue. You have to remember basically everything like anniversaries and birthdays. That is the only plus point I find in EVs and makes me feel like getting one.
So, if you start putting more EVs review I am pretty sure, many will follow suit.
Thank you so much Paul! You are doing great, mate. Well done. Cheers!
Bought this car to go to work.
Made 21000 km.
2L/100...
As long as the engine clutch stays open in electric mode I do not see one pedal function being a issue for ioniq hev/phev it just needs to be mapped with progressive regen
it’s all or nothing no progressive regen however dialing it back to 0 you still get full range and control of regen braking through the brake pedal so there’s that too bad Hyundai did not set up one pedal/ipedal function
on ioniq hev& PHEV
Another concern that’s been voiced about the ioniq HEV and PHEV
is when the ICE turns on to run defrost/heater
Its also providing power via 2 to charge the HV battery and power to the traction motor so it’s not just running to provide heat the ioniq should have a resistive heater as the Prius does
Hi Paul I have a question that I have yet to have answered about the Ioniq Plug-In:
If you take it with its battery virtually empty to the top of a long downhill run and put it on max regen, can you completely fill up the battery from that alone? Eg If I drive from Lithgow to Katoomba on EV only and use most of the battery, say, and then I coast on regen all the way down the mountains to Penrith. When I arrive at Penrith do I have a full battery again in this car? I think the descent is from about 1km above sea level to close to sea level, so I've pretty much dropped 1000m.
Yes that's the way it works. :-D
I'm not familiar with the area but do mind that while these battery packs can take much more energy than what full hybrids can take (that are usually filled after 10minutes or so of a descend) they are still limited on how fast they can fill up, the rule of thumb is that to 100% they take at least one hour (1C) so to charge completely the battery you should have a constant descend that takes at least one hour.
I agree with you on the regenerative braking, I love the car but there is a drop before coming to a complete stop thus I’m having to use the foot pedal..
It's a shame, because in the Ioniq EV you can pull and hold the downshift button to retain engine braking until it comes to a stop.
rear camera can be used at all speeds. but water droplets may impede your view
What a good looking hybrid car!
Engineering nazis lol
Interesting fact with this car is that the battery/hybrid system is limited to 50% power unless you put it in sport mode. Makes a huge difference. Lucky that it seems all your models there have rear vents, only the limited has it here.
Great video, I've learned some things I didn't know. I have the car since July and I'm very happy with it.
Is this car reliable and easy to live with?
Obviously you have the wrong idea of the Plug in gear system, it works great, I have a plug in the first registed in Melbourne for 2020, The regen system is great, and the paddle driving works a treat, my previous vehicle was camry hybrid, which had no depth of battery for EV mode, where the plug in works down to a very low level of battery charge, the plug in 1.6 motor is as fast as the camry 2.4 but more fuel efficient.
We understand the concept, it's just a slightly flawed system in the Ioniq. The regen is poorly integrated and is often jarring as it comes to a stop.
@@CarExpertAus I have experinced the jarring a few times. but it seems so seldom it is not a turnoff. this is a budget mans car so do not expect miracles.
IT HAS ADAPTIVE CRUISE! WHY DOES NONE TALK ABOUT THE ADAPTIVE CRUISE CONTROL!?!? AAAAAAAAAH
thanks for your review. I got this car though a used one. but your reviews helped me make my choice.
Hello, and are you satisfied with your choice after 2 years ?
With the Paddles; I have not driven the PHEV, but i have driven the electric and the left paddle will bring the car to a complete stop, with re-gen, by pulling it and holding it - which makes for one pedal driving! - We thought it worked quite well. But perhaps that's not the case for the PHEV?!
I will have to try that
the one pedal driving may not able to auto stop. but apart from that I think it works just fine with the 3 levels of regen.
it does however have auto hold and you can buttom start from zero using the smart cc
Hello
Which car I should buy Hyundai Ioniq Hybrid or Toyota Corolla Hybrid?
Features wise Hyundai giving more options but how about the engine performance on long span?
Could you give me some idea on it??
Hey Malav, thanks for the email. The Ioniq has much more room inside than the Corolla, but the Corolla is more dynamic to drive. The Corolla is also cheaper to service with capped price servicing (in Australia at least).
@@CarExpertAus :) wow thank you so much for the reply. Corolla is going out of my budget. Also here in Brampton, ON, Canada Ioniq's auto insurance is $450/Monthly in Corolla it is $600/Monthly.
Is there any problem in Ioniq engine? Or in terms of engine both car are reliable?
Hello Dear, thanks for the overview. it was usefull to get more details on this car. Question here. Did you have a chance to estimate the real average distance running only on electricity. They say 63 kilometeres but I strongly believe that in real it might be different perhaps ? Thanks.
Hey Ivan. We found the range on EV only mode to be pretty accurate! We managed to achieve near enough to 60km with normal driving.
Thank you for your information. What about if you turn on heating or an air conditioning. Still able to use EV mode onlly and no petrol engine running ?
@@ivanstoimenov9762 There is no electric heater, so the engine turns on for the heat. This isn't a bad thing IMO, the range drop in EV mode from electric heating wouldn't be worth it, and if there is something gasoline engines are really good at, it is making heat. So I always start a winter trip in hybrid mode, get the cabin warm, then switch to EV. For the AC, you can stay in pure electric, but it slightly drops the range of the car. in the hot summers, you can still get around 29 miles of EV range with AC on, but maybe 34-35 with it off mostly driving city streets.
Thank you for your information.
ev range is spot on in scandinavian summer weather
I’ve driven an full electric Ionic, and what I’ve noticed is it slowly down really fast and I’d have to Excelerator again to get to the intersection. Fully electric ionics are a really nice car to drive though.
Personally I'd prefer the full electric. A bit extra but worth it
The full electric one is nice!
I think you're in the minority regarding DCT. The Audi A3 E-Tron has DCT as well and people seem to really enjoy that despite the reliability issues their having.
Ioniqs, at least, seem to be much more reliable.
I think it's one of those things you'd get used to, but outside of a Porsche PDK, I'm yet to come across a dual-clutch transmission that is fuss free in comparison to a torque converter.
DCT is a strange choice for a hybrid where it takes away from the regenerative braking somewhat. Not ideal for stop and go either. It would interesting to see how the clutches hold up.
Looks marvellous. Beautiful standout car
It looks much better now!
Does the car come with a “battery save” mode so you can choose when to use the battery? Also is there a hold charge option if you want the battery to hold the charge at a set level?
Good question, @CarLover! As far as I could tell there's no way to do either of those functions. You can definitely do this in other PHEVs like the Outlander, but I don't think it's possible in the Ioniq PHEV.
Ioniq PHEV owner here: Yes, there is a HEV/EV toggle mode that lets you maintain state of charge on the battery. Driving in "Sport" mode even lets you recharge the battery while taking a hit in fuel economy in hybrid mode (drops from 55mpg to 35-45mpg while charging the battery). This could be useful in a pinch if you're on a highway and might hit city center traffic at some point.
Soft Touch IS important!!
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Haha! Tells you everything about CarExpeert :)
driving one for a month
put it in neutral and it runs forever…must be the low drag.
the speed number for the cruise control is way to small.
hate that hitting the minus regen paddle does not cancel the cc. first you cancel the cc and then you can break with the regen. stupid design.
love the bluelink app so I can remote control and monitor the the charging of the battery. the car will connect to Hyundais servers.
you will get a notification when charging is at 100% or if there is a charge mishap that can happen with the kettle lead charger.
agree on the carplay using all of they screen. but not so with andriod auto. none of them are wireless.
agree that the dsg gearbox seems pointless. even in sportsmode it seems to not let you rev beyound 5500 revs. but the dsg box as such is fine and not klonky.
very very nice ,, but can you also talk a little about the noise levels inside the car .. and also when does the car switch between the gas and electric mode?? i guess you cant chose to switch yourself right? and whats the down side of dual clutch transmission?
Second USB is located in the arm rest cubby
Nicely put. 👏👏👏
Killing aux connectivity is BAD.... WTF are you talking about it being a good thing?
When he start a video, I love Diet Coke
Dobar video
2:10 the amount of orange peel is ridiculous!
The paint wasn't fantastic on this car. We'll have a Veloster review up on Friday that's a similar story on the paint front.
Zachary Ong there shouldn’t be any reason why modern cars have orange peel paint, but some still do.
David Burt of course orange peel is to be expected, however the paint on this Hyundai is terrible compared to other manufacturers
Zachary Ong in these days of automation there’s no real excuse for a sub standard paint finish.
@@bluecent Doesn't work like that.
It's not the 90's anymore, where you could spray a super hot base and clear then have it come out like glass. Doing that these days would be far from VOC compliant. Even then, while it looked nice for the first few years, the layers of paint were thinner and the clear would fail because of the solvents. Manufacturers were mandated to switch to low/zero VOC primers and sealers, high solid clears and water based paint.
Nowadays with water based paint and heavy solids, you get more long term protection and thicker paint. The problem is what is the "acceptable factory finish" set by the quality department, based on factory cost, efficiency, environmental (i.e. environmental compliance) factors and what they deem most customers will accept.
Because of cost and environmental factors factories will paint using the lowest pressure possible for their "acceptable factory finish" while preventing overspray. Overspray to a manufacturer is lost materials and added pollution. The lower pressure in conjunction with thicker clear and slow drying waterborne paint results in orange peel in modern cars.
What a fantastic review! You showed the 10" screen? and said this was a base model. I thought the 10" screen was not available in the base model.
Thanks, Joe! Yep, this screen is standard for the entry-level Plug-in hybrid model. It's a great screen!
@@CarExpertAus Thanks mate we have three Trims in U.S. SE SEL and LIMITED. The 2020 cars aren't here yet.
Am i the only one think coke zero doesn't taste like coke
One thing that annoy's the heck outta me ,tesla 'fanboys' whinging about how rubbish all the other car companies are at making electric vehicles and how Tesla are so superior in every tiny little way while apart from the ridiculous price of Tesla's wondrous machines that will pretty much end that wonderful relationship you had with your bank manager. I'm pretty sure that when car companies over take tesla in mass production of quality EV's Tesla's days will be numbered because nobody will buy a 60,000+ dollar car when they can buy one at 25,000+ dollars so either Tesla seriously cuts its ridiculous prices or it gets hammered into extinction.
After 10 years of "the competition is coming" for Tesla, we are still waiting. At best, the competition is coming all over itself. Oh, yes, full disclosure, I am a Tesla owner.
Well mate you must have a lemon if you are having a clunky gear shift, my hybrib phev is dead smooth, and you did not mention the gear shift system of paddles or sports mode, it is easy to chirp the tyres with this gear box, all and all Hyundai have done a great job.
We mentioned the paddle shifters in the driving section.
I think design is pretty nice, but the wheels looks nasty.. 🙈
Ok here is my two cents worth;
1. Needs a bigger engine, the Toyota Prius initially tried this 1.6L engine and it was not powerful enough. I think the engine should be bigger like a camry hybrid 2.5L to generate more power.
2. Needs a bigger battery. Something like 30kwh would be nice.
3. Make it an 8 speed auto. CVT is crap.
= much better car!
and u will affoard it
a bigger engine would be pointless to lug around. it is not a sports car.
Looks like Coke Zero to me (well in the UK anyway 😁)
Just doesn’t make any sense. If you can do even basic math you will never recover the additional cost against fuel savings. If you then include the higher maintenance and the depreciation for a non bev, just really dumb.