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About guns being banned because he could be turned into a real Firearms I actually read up that the we m4's could be converted into real machine guns. Of course you would actually need to get a real upper and bolt carrier and there's a few more things that also needed to be changed. Also the guns were pot metal so they probably wouldn't hold up all that well. We eventually made slight adjustment so that it can't be done. While indo say that gun control is an overreach and disagree with the nfa and belive thatf needs to be disbanded, you shouldn't be able to convert airsoft to real steel. You should be be to put real steel parts on there but you shouldn't be able to make it so it can fire real bullets.
@@USAirsoft they have their place doing certain things, I've seen and used them a fair bit for flamethrowers at period events or to make things like mounted dual/quaf 50BMG setups. The UK limits mean they make a LOT more sense. Having to be sub 360fps for an automatic means strafers aren't a massive issue. They are balanced/limited by air volume and the lack of hopup so as long as you set a sensible limit on the power they are fine.
Happy owner of Marui AA-12 here. I'm surprised it's apparently banned someplaces. Shooting 3 bb's in full auto might seem OP but like others already said the shotgun itself is bulky, heavy and drum mag rattles a lot when moving quickly. It's like having a loud maracass telling everyone your position. Besides, our local play field has semi-only rule indoors so I can blast full auto only outdoors in the woods. That evens things even further. I love my AA-12 and shooting it is loads of fun.
Yeah I think it's weird too. Especially on the premise that the AA-12 makes it "too easy to outgun someone." If HPAs are allowed at a field, that concern is clearly thrown out of the window, so I think the AA should be allowed there
Any airsoft mortar is most dangerous to it's own operator, I've heard countless stories of people losing fingers to those things both powder and gas propelled
@@adam187ful I don’t think it’s insane enough to merit a padded room for its inventor but I don’t know that much about airsoft mortars Note: I’m exaggerating a bit for fun but i genuinely hope it’s not insane enough to actually merit that
The Germans would use the assistant gunner as a bipod base in WW2. If you look it up you’ll see dudes blasting Mg42s like that. Forget about ever hearing anything again.
I actually really appreciate the fact that he got a sponsor that actually seemed like a cool product. I only now realize after the video was over that I didn’t skip the sponsor. It’s to the point that I’m tired of ppl talking ab nord vpn or fucking skill share so I instinctively spam skip till the video plays again. Like those ads completely break the continuity of the video. This one did not , I was actually watching the ad intrigued what this thing was. Color me impressed
Honorable mention: Classic Army DT-4 since some fields will say it can't fire semi auto due to firing two bb's per trigger pull. I'm lucky my local field allows me to use it for semi only games
@@USAirsoft I own a DT4 but have yet to take it to my field. How would you recommend I properly chrono it? Hang one side out of the chrono and only fire one barrel into it at a time? Seems like the only option to me since both barrels need BBs to get the most compression for accurate readings.
@@Gojira_Wins When I chrono my DT-4 at my local places, the person at the chrono tells me to load a mag into one side and shoot that side through the chrono. You can expect your local places to do this, too. If you want me to test the difference on air compression between one barrel shooting vs two, I could do that for you since I own a chrono!
@@DaUnforgiven1 Playing devil's advocate, fields don't have a huge problem with tri shots because it's basically impossible to reach +20 rps with a pump tri shot shotgun. The notable exception is (of course) the AA12. I do get your point though, and I honestly don't know if there are any semi auto gas shotguns on the market since I'm all about aeg's.
Virtual Shot looks fun as hell. I could relive the shoot out I got away with at my school 20 years ag-- I mean the hunting trip me and my homeboy had at these woods called “CV High School Woods, Verde Valley AZ” It was so nostalgic a…. Hunting trip….. I feel I could relive it again and get away with it aga-- I mean relive the amazing bucks I took down by sheer luck. Yes. Hunting. In the woods.
@@bjangles-817 there was one way back when, there was a g&g foam rocket 40mm shell designed specifically for those rocket launchers. There's even converted front sets for the rpg7's to not restrict these kinds of launchers.
Nice vid, having been involved in selling the Strafer (well, trying to) to the LE market, you did a fair job in describing it. just one note, the 6mm and the .177 are two diffrent models, it is not a "one gun shoots both". When I was partners in a company that started importing airsoft into the US in 1986, I never imagined how far it would go. Or that I would still have a large collection and even an interest in it 35 years later. Again, good job on the vid.
I could see it being dangerous as a riot control device with stainless steel BBs, especially at close range. But with lighter plastic projectiles.... What do you think about the claim of it being too much for riot control and other non lethal uses? Personally, I think it would be a fantastic deterrent in the hands of a responsible user and any injuries fall under the "play stupid games. Win stupid prizes" category. Unfortunately, I rarely ever get notifications when trying to have a discussion like this. But I would really like to hear your opinion
@@erict3728 We did try and get it to be accepted into the "less lethal" paragon. A few things were against us. 1st, money, we did not have enough. Although a large sum was put into promotion and demos around the country, we needed about triple what we had to set up a training and accreditation system to get it into regular use. 2ed, right about the time it was starting to get some "legs" in the industry, FN had a issue with thier 303 LTL unit where someone was killed, and everyone kinnda pulled back on deploying new stuff then. That whole industry is very fickle, in the respect of, if someone starts a "What if" it tends to grow quickly . "What if", someone got shot in the eye and it killed them,,,,, we started hearing that a lot. Then the demo's dried up, and the money ran out.
6:33 Your SpeedSoft guy you used in the video wasn't doing anyone any favors by putting a "MilSimKiller" sticker on his SSG1 barrel. 🤣 personally I dont care, airsoft is airsoft.
@@johnjust2314 I mean...I guess? I really don't understand why Speedsofters don't play specifically speedsoft at fields aimed at that demographic. I mean shit, I used to play Tourny PB back in the day and you almost never had woodsballers play the comp style fields and vice versa. Milsim doesn't work in Speedsoft meta situations barring very few situations. Speedsoft would absolutely flounder at Milsim games (specifically MSW events) barring very few situations. You can call me a hater or whatever but I'm not the one basing my ego off going fast as fuk boiiii
I think speedsoft and milsim are two different things, and players should adapt to the field and context. no need to ruin the game for others, there is a time and place for everything.
He either got it from Donut or Vice Versa (Gonna say vice versa cuz he had a 3 year old video with that sponsor length bar and Donut didn’t do it 3 years ago, but who knows) Either way, like Donut Media, who are mechanics, and so videos on cars and building them and etc, I love the content. Though my experience with Air Soft is me and my friend taking each other out with 3 different types of guns one night to see who’d tear up first (All gas except the BB guns. But BB, and gas powered Pellet Hunting Rifles made strictly to kill smaller animals in one shot and gas powered Air Soft machine gun gas powered) while my experience with cars is they go *vrrrrrrrroooooooooom* But he makes such great videos I have….. I have too watch!!
We see quite a few aa12s in the uk and I’ve been lucky enough to use one as someone on my team owns one. It’s an absolute monster to be sure but it’s not as overpowered as it’s made to be, the main downsides being the fact it goes through batteries very quickly and the limited range even with maximum hop applied :)
There was an in door field I use to go too that had the SG-1 banned. The way we got past that was remove the buffer tube and stock then added some 3D printed parts. To mock it up into a warhammer bolter. We said it was just a heavily modded out AR platform. No one. I mean NO ONE questioned us on the gun. It was at that moment I realized it's more about the looks and company then the actually function of the airgun. Much like real firearms
That's true, but I kinda feel that once you put a match trigger like for paintball markers on an airsoft you're kinda missing the sport to a degree. I'm not gonna go milsim purist on anyone, but I think what makes airsoft so interesting over paintball is the image of real gun sports with very little risk of anyone getting hurt.
I saw an AA-12 in the wild in Ireland week before last. There were actually no problems reported with the use of the weapon. It was fun to have it on the field
7:54 I did know that, a guy brought one of those to the field I play at and played with it shooting out of the pre game area before the game started. Although I never saw him use it in game, we did have a fun time shooting it outside the safe zone.
Hello. I really love your videos mostly the top lists. Your videos are very informative! I learned a lot of thing from you. Thank you! - A begginer airsofter from Serbia.
12:00 I mean, Flare guns can shoot 12 gauge, if you tried you are pretty much walking around with a claymore in your hand but it will still shoot it in a general direction (watched a video about it on TH-cam), a criminal is gonna do what a criminal is gonna do, I don’t get what the point of banning these is
Flare guns are generally designed with a tapered barrel that prevents loading shotgun shells without modification. It wasn't until later on when factory made mini-shells that could be put in a stock one started becoming commonplace that things got really dangerous there.
@@cryptidproductions3160 (before I say anything, don’t do this if it’s illegal in your country, just be careful if it is legal) so you get knife, or a file, or literally any tool, and you can easily make it shoot it, and if not, you could make black power (very easy), get some metal balls (ball bearing, sling shot, or like anything else), and some wads of cloth, put the black powder in, put a wad, put the balls in, put a wad, then you have a claymore in your hand (I have no idea if this would even work, just a quick idea, one problem I see is the primer, I’m not sure if the thing that hits the flare will set of black powder but that shouldn’t be too hard to fix with some flint, a fuse, or some actual primer explosive powder). I guess most criminals (or at least the ones who get caught since many serial killer never get caught) are stupid so they couldn’t figure out how to do this but still, it’s possible.
@@cryptidproductions3160 oh yeah, a few other things, the flare gun will most likely blow up and destroy your hands but it will somewhat go in the right direction (might not do much damage though, you would need to reinforce the barrel with some metal, a simple flexible steel plate wrapped around would probably make it a little better, still probably not very effective depending on the flare gun), also, there are short shotgun shell which would fit in a tapered barrel or so many other ways to get around a tapered barrel
we had a Rich kid with a strafer at an airsoft event in the U.K ... he actually had scuba tank on his back and a Minder with him at all times ..... ppl on his own team were team killing him to get him off the field for 10 mins.
Similar to your #1 pick, there was a revolver which had shells that were individually gassed and fired their bbs when the primer (yes, these had primers) was struck by a firing pin that was attached to the hammer. Obviously that's WAY too close to how a real revolver functions and since the mock shells are very similar in size to real ones, it's not a stretch to imagine that it might have been able to fire real ammunition. It would've destroyed the gun, but the mechanism would've worked.
I own an AA12 and to be honest I play it when I want to impose a handicap on myself. It is bulky and loud, it has a mosfet that makes it hard to use powerful batteries so it's limited to NiMHs, and it is a 1J gun so you are firing less muzzle velocity than most pistols. I do see the reasons why it makes people iffy, 3 bbs at 10 rps is 30 bbs per second and that can really mess some people up if the user isn't careful.
Yeah that mosfet... I couldn't take it any more (as it was cutting off my 7.4 lipo at seemingly random times and decent 8.4 NiMH are hard to come by) and replaced it with one with ROF regulation and after that it is 100% awesome PS: I did had to lower the ROF about 10% to feed from the drum more reliably on 7.4 Li-Pol - it was dryfiring a bit without regulation.
One more note - my M60 upsets people more as it is 2 J gun, and given that its motor is right near my face I pump some poor guys with too much BBs as I don't hear them call their hits. And it is support gun - so it's meant to be fired in long bursts :D
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So I own two of these... Haven't fielded either one, but that is because one is being made to use an HPA engine, and the other one is still on pre-order...
In Sweden we never used to ban any guns, only have strict limits on FPS per type to avoid MP5K-LMG-Snipers, as the aesthetics was important too. Which clashed with some players from Denmark that was from the Arena-Paintball/Speedsofter-background and wanted to cheese all their guns to "win".
One of the more fun, yet troublesome 'guns' we used in paintball, was a grenade launcher. You have to make the 'grenades' with foam drinking cups. Basically, you fill the cup with paintballs, and glue 2 cups mouth to mouth. The gun is a giant tube, and on the side, you set the amount of pressure you want, by looking at 3 lights. One lit is short distance, like 20 meters, and 3 lights is like 150 meters. You could even drop bouncing bettys in there. Once, we were fighting a team on a hill, with a dry creek at the bottom. I loaded the launcher, and set it to 3 lights. My primary gun (SL 68) was on the ground nearby, when I heard someone approaching from behind. I turned and fired the launcher at him. He was about 10 meters away, and it knocked him back like he was tackled by a football player. He ended up with 15 brusies on his chest. Fun day. He spent the next 5 games hunting me.
I understand the reasons for some fields banning the AA-12, but I don't see how it could be declining in popularity. I've seen at least two at the field I go to. I believe it's the price tag that's causing it not to be as plentiful to see at an airsoft game, especially adding the price of the drum mag into the equation.
@@GPOLICE Sure it has some shortcomings, so does every other airsoft gun ever made. I'm saying that not everyone has spare change of $470 for the AA-12, along with $110 for the drum.
To add on to what the others were saying, it’s mainly because the AA12 is freaking expensive. Its popularity is also going down because of the newer version of it not made by TM, which is around $100 cheaper. Also remember when it comes to prices, TM is more expensive because they have to be imported and have high import costs.
I own and run an SSG-1, and the more people see it more they like it here in the US. The stock is a game changer as it just makes more people more comfortable with their dye masks.
I was at Op Wolfs Den at brushy in Tennessee and a guy had one of those mortars. It broke on day 1 but it was pretty effective and I don’t think anyone got hurt from it.
The piper straffer could be a good defensive game play such as fortress defence type games where the weapon is mounted and only can be used at certain points of the game I.e if the defending team are becoming out numbered but the attackers are at a distance where it’s effective range is just with in reach of the players +\- 10 ft or so
I actually own (and love) the AA12. For games I'm going to, it is hardly OP, it is almost UP - firstly I'm going mostly to outdoor games, and secondly, the limits here are not as strict - first, the usual power limit is 130 m/s (430 fps) for full auto rifles, machineguns (has to be really machinegun replica - M60, M249, PKM ...) typically can go up to 140 or 150 m/s (460 - 490 fps) with full auto (generally it is banned to shoot under 10 or 20 m ranges, you have to use less powered sidearm for the shortest ranges). The AA12 has 80 m/s (260 fps) and approaches machineguns by its weight so no one ever complained about it, the highest upgrade I saw (apart from HPA conversion) is to go for about 100 m/s (330 fps) which wouldn't scare anyone (as 120 m/s - 390 fps is considered a baseline now - most guns sell with that power). When there is a limitation on rifles to use midcap mags, or there is a general restriction on electric drums for rifles I have to appeal to the organizers that they allow AA-12 as machinegun (to use electric winding mag) to stay competitive as the volume of fire is the only thing which goes for it and those midcaps are gone SO quickly (and I don't want to invest to have a dozen...). But Iooooove to shoot with it, I ordered one as soon as it was available, mine could have been the first in the country for all I know, as it was not in our shops yet, when I ordered it and for reasons above, there wasn't (and is not) too big of a demand for them. But I said it when I was starting with airsoft 15 years ago and come to know that there are AEGs and the tri-shot shotguns: "Once there will be an electric tri-shot shotgun I'm getting it immediately." I did hope for USAS-12 as that is my favorite crazy auto shotgun, but still. I love my TM AA-12.
@@baka030hydroid Most people hardly know that the 3-shot AA12 even exists, but some fields are actually banning the HPAs due to their ability to have crazy high ROF, and super high muzzle velocity at the same time. There were supposed cases of cheaters cranking up the fps of their HPA after they passed the fps test (which is a matter of regulator setting for HPAs). Yeah, even 500 fps isn't enough for some mad men here... I personally don't care what type of gun are you using, 400 fps at almost any range, if you're not psycho aiming for the head. And up to 500 outside buildings. I don't see the point of going all the way to 500 though, as at that fps you have to use heavy ammo, and most people use 0.28 or 0.3 at most in these, even when you really should have like 0.4 to really take advantage of the high fps (from what I saw over and over if you don't increase the weight of the BB alongside your muzzle velocity the range gain is often almost negligible and you only increase the danger of hurting someone badly. To me (if I wanted a normal assault rifle :D), the sweet spot would be around 460 fps with 0.32 BBs as those are still sold as regular BBs (so you pay per kg) anything upwards from that is considered "precision, sniper" ammo and you pay basically per BB and those cost like 3 times as much. I think part of the problem with HPA is that you just buy the gun and it is almost instantly capable of those 500+ fps. In the past, if you wanted that you needed to really upgrade the AEG and maintain it properly, not all psychos with money were ready to do that after they realized that their mechabox broke on every other game :D
@@ilmt Yeah HPAs have been a recurring problem at my local indoor field, for the reasons noted in your description. Been trying to tell them to start zip-tying the regulators like Mil-sim fields do but they still don't do it for whatever reason. Just had to kick a dude off the field for that a few games ago. He and his buddy brought an HPA smg and the fps was cranked so high it shot through someone's mask lens and nearly took their eye out
While I dislike the SSG-1 in some ways, one thing I really like about it is the stock and how it can move so it’s easier to aim down sights with a full seal face mask. That is a really good innovation I wish more airsoft guns had.
I was at a site that was going to use that mortar with the huge plastic shells (in the UK). It never worked, possibly because it was absolutely pouring it down. I remember everyone being super disappointed. I remember wishing I had a helmet.
Honestly, I'm surprised that the Classic Army DT4 didn't make this list. I've heard rumors that some fields ban it just because of being able to either DSG or HPA it. That and being able to double mag dump someone isn't very fair either.
I’m a UK newbie and one of my first games was against a guy who had one of those AA12’s. It’s absolutely a death machine and the only reason I stood a chance is cause I was rocking a riot shield. Even then you could feel the power through the shield.
hi, from Belgium here. i have not been Airsoft for the last two years but i would like to share what i know that is banned/not allowed at our fields. first off, target lasers and night vision is not allowed on a replica here by law. your not allowed to own them if they can be mounted on your replica. most field regulate with a ROF limit and they will check for it during the field. things like filly automatic shotguns are allowed here (yes i saw a AA12 here. it broke after half the day ) also most fields ban any multi-finger triggers. (speedsofters beware ) things like the mortar or rpg that actually shoots a non-bb projectile wile sometimes allowed when asked is most of the time just banned. Pyro's are also regulated per field. beyond that we got most of the normal safety and regulations. interesting vid anyway.
For the record, speedsofters are unpopular not because of what they choose to wear or even what they choose to carry (like the G&G SG1) but because of how they choose to play and the impact that that has on everyone else - Specifically, insane ROF and massive overkill. Sorry, but it's not "hypocritical" at all - it's field owners and other players self-policing their community, and it's a great thing to see. It's not about "defending people who haven't done anything wrong" - it's about understanding that the only real reason someone would be running this setup is to get as close as possible to "doing something wrong" without getting called on it - in other words, their intention is not to have fun and play with a good-faith sporting mentality, but rather to fuck with people without getting called out. IMO, if you are doing this, then you've ALREADY "done something wrong" since you are not even trying to approach the game in good faith. If you have a hair trigger (or even less skillfully, a dual trigger) or a setup like the SG-1 blade trigger, you're almost certainly spending your time blitzing it to effectively cheat the no-full-auto rules so you can dump as many rounds as possible into other players. If this is you, (and if you are a dedicated speedsoft player then it's probably you), then you can stop whining about your favourite guns getting banned and whining even more about how you are treated by other players on the field because you are a toxic piece of shit and no one has any sympathy for you. If field owners ban dedicated speedsoft-style guns on sight, then that is the fault of the companies and the shitters who use their weapons specifically to carefully flout no-full-auto rules and mag-dump on people at close range purely for their own satisfaction. If you are someone who is actively trying to get as close to that line as possible, if you buy guns specifically to achieve this, then you can cry all you want and call everybody a hypocrite and swear up and down that you haven't done anything wrong, but in the real world no one is going to tolerate your bad-faith nonsense for long, and that is the way it should be. Respect to all field owners who ban guns proactively - there are hundreds of great models out there, amazing replicas and beautifully engineered guns for everyone of any size or experience level - crying about banned guns just kind of outs you as a toxic shitter who just wants to be out on the field to overshoot and mag-dump ppl, and so again, you'll get no sympathy from the majority of the community because you don't deserve any.
The APS shell ejecting shotgun is an interesting study in case law. The same legal issue is coming up again with those realstic glock keychains that eject shells, customers keep asking for larger and larger replicas, not realizing that a 1:1 replica Glock keychain is just...a functional Glock, or at the very least, is considered an imitation firearm, and is illegal in many places.
Hey, that's my local airsoft field! SS airsoft in Georgia, USA! I got the chance to meet you at the 9th year anniversary event there. I was the one dude who won the Sharp Bros. "JACK" AEG M4 during the raffles and got to show it off to you when I went to try it out. I don't know if you remember me or any of that but I just want to said I'm a fan of your videos and it was such a honor to get to play at my local airsoft field with such a star as yourself. Anyways, enough fan boying. (#5 AA-12 footage)
The strafer is not actually a new idea for a diminished lethality crowd control weapon. The American 180 looks like a Tommy gun with almost 180 rounds of 22lr on tap in full auto. I’m pretty certain the idea of both is to spray the projectiles at the ground in front of an unruly mob and cause pain or injury in the legs or feet I wouldn’t endorse using it but it’s an interesting concept
Okay for the APS Shotgun: Im from germany and i use the 2020 MK3 model and yes its really frightening what you can actually do with it not only that it can be modified to shoot real 12G there are actually refit kits for it The MK3 has a different bolt to prevent it but said kits complete ignore that also its hard cause here its seen as a home defense weapon since you can store everything in those shells I still use it. Its a funny thing but do me a favor and act responsible with it. Airsofts still to a point are guns and it has a reason why we need a certain age here to obtain these.
I haven't played airsoft in a long time..... me and a group friends from my high school and a couple neighboring schools use to get together and have some crazy, high number team battles. I had some early electric m4 copies as well as a couple of those cheapo ww2 replicas like the plastic, horribly built Thompsons and mp-40s youd order online (Ebay in my days) Being that said, Its crazy to see just how far it has come in the last 15/20 years. Some of the bolt action sniper rifles and fully metal built, blowback, ak's and m4's are unreal. The grenade tech..... Launchers....etc Were all the things we dreamed about in those early days
Anything that isn’t deadly/insanely unfair should he allowed and the whole thing where the ssg1 was banned like come on man, I run around with a milsim/speed soft load out and have a dye i5, shoulder pads and a tiny g&g CM16 SRS AAAANNNND a TTi hicappa. But I’m still garbage lol innocent till proven guilty ✌🏻
I feel this all these people thinking they are real military don't like it when I put 3 round in their back from 5 feet away so they cry about it like come on if it was real life you would be dead so just suck it up and get out, back to the guns, no gun should be banned for anything more than an FPS requirement.
@@muffinman3111 Ngl I have about that much into it but I don't cry about dumb stuff like full auto, engagement range, and looks. I want airsoft to be more the way it is in real life where you get shot you're down and that's it, it shouldn't matter what gun or where they hit you. And sometime over shooting happens just like in real life, people just need to grow up and use there brain, don't mag dump but don't cry for being shot 3 times
As soon as I saw the AA-12 on there I was happy, in a game online that I play everyone hates it but the rank 16 players use it so everyone aims for them to kill them for using the AA-12
Owner of an AA12 and yep this thing is kinda banned in a lot of sites here in Japan(most of sites doesn't even allow full auto bar some exceptions), but the suppressive fire of this AA12 is sweet, the only problem is this gun is NOISY asf sometimes i can't hear people calling hits when they don't shout it
Know a guy who owns the aa12 at my arena and thankfully I’ve gotten the chance to run it once or twice , super fun gun but the overkill is all too understandable.
I don't actively play Airsoft, I can't due to disability. But the only 2 times I've been to a field, the local rules there basically said that if your replica shoots more than 1 BB at a time, the muzzle energy has to be divided up amongst them. So no one there uses shot guns of any sort, unless they've been modified to just shoot a single pellet. The shell firing type of replica is straight up illegal in my country, as those are potentially compatible with a cartridges for actual weapons. So they are considered fire arms. You could technically own one, but the process to get vetted, verified and licensed takes about 4-5 years. So good luck with that. Also the Strafer 6mm airsoft BB and the 4.5mm air rifle pellet models are not compatible, their internals share very little in the way of parts. Also the pellet model has a much, much reduced firing rate. And in many countries, the pellet firing model is straight up illegal, either because it's full auto, or because of the muzzle energy. In which case I wouldn't want to be the one explaining to a cop what the differences are between a potentially legal air soft replica and an illegal pellet rifle, nor would I want to risk jail time over possession of illegal weapons. As for speed softers, I really do not see the problem with them. But if you're going to a hardcore milsim field, don't be surprised if they expect your replica to be milspec as well. Meaning no spade triggers and the likes. Personally I don't like paintball triggers like that, but then I'm used to proper two stage triggers on air rifles that put out a whole lot more energy than what is even remotely legal in airsoft to begin with. But to me they feel like unsafe hair triggers. I'm a range marshal at the range where I shoot air rifles. If someone presented me a rifle with a trigger like that, I would not let them onto the range until they fixed it and installed a safe trigger.
2:52 Funny thing about the AA-12 picture is it's the model from a Roblox FPS game called Phantom Forces. Anyway, I like your content, keep it up! Also, I think my friend has an AA-12, it's pretty cool. He's used it a bunch of times, and he says he's dropped it on purpose COUNTLESS t times, I don't know why he would do that with such expensive equipment tho.
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About guns being banned because he could be turned into a real Firearms I actually read up that the we m4's could be converted into real machine guns. Of course you would actually need to get a real upper and bolt carrier and there's a few more things that also needed to be changed. Also the guns were pot metal so they probably wouldn't hold up all that well. We eventually made slight adjustment so that it can't be done. While indo say that gun control is an overreach and disagree with the nfa and belive thatf needs to be disbanded, you shouldn't be able to convert airsoft to real steel. You should be be to put real steel parts on there but you shouldn't be able to make it so it can fire real bullets.
Someone actually brought a strafer to a game I went to, shot it pre game for about half a second and the field owner immediately banned it lmao
“Yeah, that’s enough of that s**t.”
Not many airsoft guns can actually put fear into people but the strafer is one of the few that can.
I'd like but it's at 69
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@@USAirsoft they have their place doing certain things, I've seen and used them a fair bit for flamethrowers at period events or to make things like mounted dual/quaf 50BMG setups.
The UK limits mean they make a LOT more sense. Having to be sub 360fps for an automatic means strafers aren't a massive issue.
They are balanced/limited by air volume and the lack of hopup so as long as you set a sensible limit on the power they are fine.
@@USAirsoft It’s something that’s just waiting to be turned into a GAU 19.
The strafer is literally just the A-10 gun made into an airsoft gun
lmao yeah, also hey aleks how are ya?
Yeah, he already said that in the video
Yes
Bro u stole my comment omg lmao
It shoots 3 TIMES as fast as the GAU-8 cannon on the A-10. Let that sink in.
Happy owner of Marui AA-12 here. I'm surprised it's apparently banned someplaces. Shooting 3 bb's in full auto might seem OP but like others already said the shotgun itself is bulky, heavy and drum mag rattles a lot when moving quickly. It's like having a loud maracass telling everyone your position.
Besides, our local play field has semi-only rule indoors so I can blast full auto only outdoors in the woods. That evens things even further.
I love my AA-12 and shooting it is loads of fun.
Yeah I think it's weird too. Especially on the premise that the AA-12 makes it "too easy to outgun someone." If HPAs are allowed at a field, that concern is clearly thrown out of the window, so I think the AA should be allowed there
Phantom Forces Energy
@@Kappa7837 lol
tru
Besides, the reall aa12 could shoot explosive projectiles so if anything, the airsoft aa12 is already a nerfed replica of It
@@Kappa7837 aa-12 in phantom forces so annoying ppl ban it irl in airsoft lol
Any airsoft mortar is most dangerous to it's own operator, I've heard countless stories of people losing fingers to those things both powder and gas propelled
Yeah, i'll just stick to guns thank you very much
Whoever invented the airsoft mortar must be insane
what about an electric one, have a strong flywheel or 20 launch it up, and then in the last 5 seconds, the shell opens and sprays the ground with bbs.
@@adam187ful I don’t think it’s insane enough to merit a padded room for its inventor but I don’t know that much about airsoft mortars
Note: I’m exaggerating a bit for fun but i genuinely hope it’s not insane enough to actually merit that
@@MichelleW870 I think I've seen something like this before
0:11 I thought the LMG was being rested on the other guy’s head.
if it works it works
Same here lol
The Germans would use the assistant gunner as a bipod base in WW2. If you look it up you’ll see dudes blasting Mg42s like that.
Forget about ever hearing anything again.
Yeah I was at battle for Augusta and airsoft Alfonse was probably the best teammate you could ever have(he’s the one with the lmg)
My friends can serve as a bi- pod if I need them to... I'm too tall though
On the other end of the spectrum, how about a video about major developments in airsoft or a list of the most Innovative/Influential airsoft guns?
I’ve been trying to piece that countdown together for a while now.
I hope to have a countdown like that done soon.
great idea!
Thats an excellent idea.
I actually really appreciate the fact that he got a sponsor that actually seemed like a cool product. I only now realize after the video was over that I didn’t skip the sponsor. It’s to the point that I’m tired of ppl talking ab nord vpn or fucking skill share so I instinctively spam skip till the video plays again. Like those ads completely break the continuity of the video. This one did not , I was actually watching the ad intrigued what this thing was. Color me impressed
U forgot RAID SHADOW LEGENDS lol
@@Krasher247legend
2:53 love the phantom forces aa12 photo png lol
Hoyl crap i just noticed
Lol
Facts
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Honorable mention: Classic Army DT-4 since some fields will say it can't fire semi auto due to firing two bb's per trigger pull. I'm lucky my local field allows me to use it for semi only games
I should have added the DT4. Some places don’t know how to chrono them so they get banned as well.
@@USAirsoft I own a DT4 but have yet to take it to my field. How would you recommend I properly chrono it? Hang one side out of the chrono and only fire one barrel into it at a time? Seems like the only option to me since both barrels need BBs to get the most compression for accurate readings.
If that’s the rule then all tri shot shotgun should be banned as well. Which is just plain retarded
@@Gojira_Wins When I chrono my DT-4 at my local places, the person at the chrono tells me to load a mag into one side and shoot that side through the chrono. You can expect your local places to do this, too. If you want me to test the difference on air compression between one barrel shooting vs two, I could do that for you since I own a chrono!
@@DaUnforgiven1 Playing devil's advocate, fields don't have a huge problem with tri shots because it's basically impossible to reach +20 rps with a pump tri shot shotgun. The notable exception is (of course) the AA12. I do get your point though, and I honestly don't know if there are any semi auto gas shotguns on the market since I'm all about aeg's.
Not gonna lie, that Virtual Shot gadget looks pretty nifty.
DID YOU SAY ...."""""""NIFTY"""""""?????????.....gee...that's just ......'''''''''S W E L L"""""" (ROLL EYES AND PALM-SMACK FORE HEAD)!!!!!!!
Menu option: shoot school
Virtual Shot looks fun as hell. I could relive the shoot out I got away with at my school 20 years ag-- I mean the hunting trip me and my homeboy had at these woods called “CV High School Woods, Verde Valley AZ”
It was so nostalgic a…. Hunting trip….. I feel I could relive it again and get away with it aga-- I mean relive the amazing bucks I took down by sheer luck. Yes. Hunting. In the woods.
It also doesn't seem like a good idea to use with real firearms.
@@MrEpeeFencer Agreed. The more I think about it, how does this work with GBB platforms?
2:52 i love the fact this guy used the Phantom Forces AA12 model
I've played with the RPG, it's a overglorified grenade shell launcher, just have to take the top part of the rocket out
Rocket
Propelled
Grenade
-so it's just itself
If only there were more available maybe they would develop something like the taginn grenades but in the shape of an rpg
@@bjangles-817 there was one way back when, there was a g&g foam rocket 40mm shell designed specifically for those rocket launchers.
There's even converted front sets for the rpg7's to not restrict these kinds of launchers.
@@xXxSt3althProXxX you probably won't read this but RPG doesn't mean rocket propelled grenade.
@@comrade-generalnikolai8755 out of curiosity, lets hear what you think RPG stands for 😂
In Germany that strafer would have to be semi-only due having more than 0.5J lol
It only shot like 175 fps I think
@@ratstriplea3702 After randomly revisiting this video, I have to disagree. Purely because it is hpa and are easily adjustable to go beyong .5 joules
LOL I love how you pulled the AA-12 image from phantom forces.
Nice vid, having been involved in selling the Strafer (well, trying to) to the LE market, you did a fair job in describing it. just one note, the 6mm and the .177 are two diffrent models, it is not a "one gun shoots both". When I was partners in a company that started importing airsoft into the US in 1986, I never imagined how far it would go. Or that I would still have a large collection and even an interest in it 35 years later. Again, good job on the vid.
youre awesome
I could see it being dangerous as a riot control device with stainless steel BBs, especially at close range. But with lighter plastic projectiles.... What do you think about the claim of it being too much for riot control and other non lethal uses? Personally, I think it would be a fantastic deterrent in the hands of a responsible user and any injuries fall under the "play stupid games. Win stupid prizes" category.
Unfortunately, I rarely ever get notifications when trying to have a discussion like this. But I would really like to hear your opinion
@@erict3728 We did try and get it to be accepted into the "less lethal" paragon. A few things were against us. 1st, money, we did not have enough. Although a large sum was put into promotion and demos around the country, we needed about triple what we had to set up a training and accreditation system to get it into regular use. 2ed, right about the time it was starting to get some "legs" in the industry, FN had a issue with thier 303 LTL unit where someone was killed, and everyone kinnda pulled back on deploying new stuff then. That whole industry is very fickle, in the respect of, if someone starts a "What if" it tends to grow quickly . "What if", someone got shot in the eye and it killed them,,,,, we started hearing that a lot. Then the demo's dried up, and the money ran out.
6:33 Your SpeedSoft guy you used in the video wasn't doing anyone any favors by putting a "MilSimKiller" sticker on his SSG1 barrel. 🤣 personally I dont care, airsoft is airsoft.
I like the controversy that implies lol, calling them haters out
@@johnjust2314 I mean...I guess? I really don't understand why Speedsofters don't play specifically speedsoft at fields aimed at that demographic. I mean shit, I used to play Tourny PB back in the day and you almost never had woodsballers play the comp style fields and vice versa.
Milsim doesn't work in Speedsoft meta situations barring very few situations.
Speedsoft would absolutely flounder at Milsim games (specifically MSW events) barring very few situations.
You can call me a hater or whatever but I'm not the one basing my ego off going fast as fuk boiiii
I think speedsoft and milsim are two different things, and players should adapt to the field and context.
no need to ruin the game for others, there is a time and place for everything.
I like the subtle blue bar indicating the sponsor length. Neat touch
He either got it from Donut or Vice Versa (Gonna say vice versa cuz he had a 3 year old video with that sponsor length bar and Donut didn’t do it 3 years ago, but who knows)
Either way, like Donut Media, who are mechanics, and so videos on cars and building them and etc, I love the content. Though my experience with Air Soft is me and my friend taking each other out with 3 different types of guns one night to see who’d tear up first (All gas except the BB guns. But BB, and gas powered Pellet Hunting Rifles made strictly to kill smaller animals in one shot and gas powered Air Soft machine gun gas powered) while my experience with cars is they go *vrrrrrrrroooooooooom*
But he makes such great videos I have….. I have too watch!!
this guy's a legend for making a sponsor timestamp
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I wonder if the sponsors hate that
I actually own the APS Cam870 Mk3. It was an extremely huge hassle to get delivered. Very nice looking shotgun to use and is definitely a head turner.
Absolutely bud
Do tell
The AA-12 is a beauty
Always have been
I knew someone who had one, he barely ever used it because of the weight.
We see quite a few aa12s in the uk and I’ve been lucky enough to use one as someone on my team owns one. It’s an absolute monster to be sure but it’s not as overpowered as it’s made to be, the main downsides being the fact it goes through batteries very quickly and the limited range even with maximum hop applied :)
True.
The Strafer is basically the pistol from the "No full auto in the building" meme.
There was an in door field I use to go too that had the SG-1 banned. The way we got past that was remove the buffer tube and stock then added some 3D printed parts. To mock it up into a warhammer bolter. We said it was just a heavily modded out AR platform. No one. I mean NO ONE questioned us on the gun. It was at that moment I realized it's more about the looks and company then the actually function of the airgun. Much like real firearms
That's true, but I kinda feel that once you put a match trigger like for paintball markers on an airsoft you're kinda missing the sport to a degree. I'm not gonna go milsim purist on anyone, but I think what makes airsoft so interesting over paintball is the image of real gun sports with very little risk of anyone getting hurt.
Virtual shot looks pretty fire ngl
It looks nice but not 129$ nice
@@benpfab17 yeah thats a fact
Agreed though this device looks very useful and very fun to have.. anybody know how much it is? I didnt recall hearing the price in video
@@DeeJaye8920 129$ on the website before discount
yeah, stupidly expensive for a plastic mount though.
I saw an AA-12 in the wild in Ireland week before last. There were actually no problems reported with the use of the weapon. It was fun to have it on the field
7:54 I did know that, a guy brought one of those to the field I play at and played with it shooting out of the pre game area before the game started. Although I never saw him use it in game, we did have a fun time shooting it outside the safe zone.
When I heard 170+ rounds per second, not only could I imagine the pain, I felt the pain
Love your content Scott!
Thank for the love!
I got here faster than young celebrities dads coming back after their kid becomes successful
2:51, I like how you used the phantom forces aa-12 model for the gun
The fact that he used the Phantom Forces model image of the AA-12 shows that he understands the Phantom Forces community
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Hello. I really love your videos mostly the top lists. Your videos are very informative! I learned a lot of thing from you. Thank you!
- A begginer airsofter from Serbia.
In Russia we still use mortars in larger games. The BBs though are housed in cardboard shells if I'm not mistaken
That sounds fucking awesome
9:29
literally looked like a water gun lmao
5:40 damn bro that’s a pretty good sticker ya got there bud
SSG1 is just an attempt to appeal to speeballers. I think they look neat.
They make me wonder if that's what a Thompson would look like if it was made today.
12:00 I mean, Flare guns can shoot 12 gauge, if you tried you are pretty much walking around with a claymore in your hand but it will still shoot it in a general direction (watched a video about it on TH-cam), a criminal is gonna do what a criminal is gonna do, I don’t get what the point of banning these is
Because a flare gun not being marketed as an airsoft gun. A flare gun is marketed as a safety device that is also a firearm in a sense.
Flare guns are generally designed with a tapered barrel that prevents loading shotgun shells without modification. It wasn't until later on when factory made mini-shells that could be put in a stock one started becoming commonplace that things got really dangerous there.
@@cryptidproductions3160 (before I say anything, don’t do this if it’s illegal in your country, just be careful if it is legal) so you get knife, or a file, or literally any tool, and you can easily make it shoot it, and if not, you could make black power (very easy), get some metal balls (ball bearing, sling shot, or like anything else), and some wads of cloth, put the black powder in, put a wad, put the balls in, put a wad, then you have a claymore in your hand (I have no idea if this would even work, just a quick idea, one problem I see is the primer, I’m not sure if the thing that hits the flare will set of black powder but that shouldn’t be too hard to fix with some flint, a fuse, or some actual primer explosive powder). I guess most criminals (or at least the ones who get caught since many serial killer never get caught) are stupid so they couldn’t figure out how to do this but still, it’s possible.
@@cryptidproductions3160 oh yeah, a few other things, the flare gun will most likely blow up and destroy your hands but it will somewhat go in the right direction (might not do much damage though, you would need to reinforce the barrel with some metal, a simple flexible steel plate wrapped around would probably make it a little better, still probably not very effective depending on the flare gun), also, there are short shotgun shell which would fit in a tapered barrel or so many other ways to get around a tapered barrel
we had a Rich kid with a strafer at an airsoft event in the U.K ... he actually had scuba tank on his back and a Minder with him at all times ..... ppl on his own team were team killing him to get him off the field for 10 mins.
Similar to your #1 pick, there was a revolver which had shells that were individually gassed and fired their bbs when the primer (yes, these had primers) was struck by a firing pin that was attached to the hammer. Obviously that's WAY too close to how a real revolver functions and since the mock shells are very similar in size to real ones, it's not a stretch to imagine that it might have been able to fire real ammunition. It would've destroyed the gun, but the mechanism would've worked.
I believe they were made by Brococ
I own an AA12 and to be honest I play it when I want to impose a handicap on myself. It is bulky and loud, it has a mosfet that makes it hard to use powerful batteries so it's limited to NiMHs, and it is a 1J gun so you are firing less muzzle velocity than most pistols. I do see the reasons why it makes people iffy, 3 bbs at 10 rps is 30 bbs per second and that can really mess some people up if the user isn't careful.
Yeah that mosfet... I couldn't take it any more (as it was cutting off my 7.4 lipo at seemingly random times and decent 8.4 NiMH are hard to come by) and replaced it with one with ROF regulation and after that it is 100% awesome
PS: I did had to lower the ROF about 10% to feed from the drum more reliably on 7.4 Li-Pol - it was dryfiring a bit without regulation.
One more note - my M60 upsets people more as it is 2 J gun, and given that its motor is right near my face I pump some poor guys with too much BBs as I don't hear them call their hits. And it is support gun - so it's meant to be fired in long bursts :D
The AA12 is such a fun gun. It’s a shame it didn’t get the love it needed. Such a great concept and such a fun gun.
And the airsoft one
Finally a click bait thumbnail and no click bait I’m impressed sir
Welcome to USAirsoft, where I get accused of clickbait a lot but quickly people point out that I actually talk about what’s seen in thumbnails and titles
Love your videos. Completely honest, no bs, not worried about what other people think. Earned a sub!
I love these videos, bring on more top 5s, they are rly interesting
I’ve got more on the way!
@@USAirsoft sick one
So I own two of these... Haven't fielded either one, but that is because one is being made to use an HPA engine, and the other one is still on pre-order...
VERY interesting and informative video. Thankfully we have not had any issues with these. Keep informing guys. Excellent.
That was much less click baity than I thought it was gonna be.
That app looks pretty legit
Me who hosts games at me house for my friends: hehehehehe time to start saving
In Sweden we never used to ban any guns, only have strict limits on FPS per type to avoid MP5K-LMG-Snipers, as the aesthetics was important too. Which clashed with some players from Denmark that was from the Arena-Paintball/Speedsofter-background and wanted to cheese all their guns to "win".
One of the more fun, yet troublesome 'guns' we used in paintball, was a grenade launcher.
You have to make the 'grenades' with foam drinking cups. Basically, you fill the cup with paintballs, and glue 2 cups mouth to mouth. The gun is a giant tube, and on the side, you set the amount of pressure you want, by looking at 3 lights. One lit is short distance, like 20 meters, and 3 lights is like 150 meters. You could even drop bouncing bettys in there.
Once, we were fighting a team on a hill, with a dry creek at the bottom. I loaded the launcher, and set it to 3 lights. My primary gun (SL 68) was on the ground nearby, when I heard someone approaching from behind.
I turned and fired the launcher at him. He was about 10 meters away, and it knocked him back like he was tackled by a football player. He ended up with 15 brusies on his chest.
Fun day. He spent the next 5 games hunting me.
I understand the reasons for some fields banning the AA-12, but I don't see how it could be declining in popularity. I've seen at least two at the field I go to. I believe it's the price tag that's causing it not to be as plentiful to see at an airsoft game, especially adding the price of the drum mag into the equation.
@@GPOLICE Sure it has some shortcomings, so does every other airsoft gun ever made. I'm saying that not everyone has spare change of $470 for the AA-12, along with $110 for the drum.
@@GPOLICE It's how it's priced on Evike.com. Probably priced similarly at other airsoft sites.
To add on to what the others were saying, it’s mainly because the AA12 is freaking expensive. Its popularity is also going down because of the newer version of it not made by TM, which is around $100 cheaper. Also remember when it comes to prices, TM is more expensive because they have to be imported and have high import costs.
EMG SGR-12 is the one I’m thinking of.
2:55 Oh heeeeeeey I recognize that aaa-12 model
It was a joke I’m surprised was noticed so quickly and by so many people
Have owned an AA12 since new there a brilliant gun. However never had a problem. Been in large games with about 14 of them in feild. No issues!
5:31 this guy kinda a man of culture
If you look that stock
I own and run an SSG-1, and the more people see it more they like it here in the US. The stock is a game changer as it just makes more people more comfortable with their dye masks.
I’m with you man I have one too and this gun with stock internals preforms way better than I thought for the price of the gun
Even though I personally wouldn’t use one even though I have one, I can recognize how useful they are.
I was at Op Wolfs Den at brushy in Tennessee and a guy had one of those mortars. It broke on day 1 but it was pretty effective and I don’t think anyone got hurt from it.
The piper straffer could be a good defensive game play such as fortress defence type games where the weapon is mounted and only can be used at certain points of the game I.e if the defending team are becoming out numbered but the attackers are at a distance where it’s effective range is just with in reach of the players +\- 10 ft or so
I’ve just recently played airsoft for the first time and I saw the speedsoft gng for the first time.
I actually own (and love) the AA12. For games I'm going to, it is hardly OP, it is almost UP - firstly I'm going mostly to outdoor games, and secondly, the limits here are not as strict - first, the usual power limit is 130 m/s (430 fps) for full auto rifles, machineguns (has to be really machinegun replica - M60, M249, PKM ...) typically can go up to 140 or 150 m/s (460 - 490 fps) with full auto (generally it is banned to shoot under 10 or 20 m ranges, you have to use less powered sidearm for the shortest ranges).
The AA12 has 80 m/s (260 fps) and approaches machineguns by its weight so no one ever complained about it, the highest upgrade I saw (apart from HPA conversion) is to go for about 100 m/s (330 fps) which wouldn't scare anyone (as 120 m/s - 390 fps is considered a baseline now - most guns sell with that power).
When there is a limitation on rifles to use midcap mags, or there is a general restriction on electric drums for rifles I have to appeal to the organizers that they allow AA-12 as machinegun (to use electric winding mag) to stay competitive as the volume of fire is the only thing which goes for it and those midcaps are gone SO quickly (and I don't want to invest to have a dozen...).
But Iooooove to shoot with it, I ordered one as soon as it was available, mine could have been the first in the country for all I know, as it was not in our shops yet, when I ordered it and for reasons above, there wasn't (and is not) too big of a demand for them.
But I said it when I was starting with airsoft 15 years ago and come to know that there are AEGs and the tri-shot shotguns: "Once there will be an electric tri-shot shotgun I'm getting it immediately." I did hope for USAS-12 as that is my favorite crazy auto shotgun, but still. I love my TM AA-12.
I love the in-depth breakdown on this. I doubt the AA-12 is more powerful than the HPAs people like to run and are usually allowed
@@baka030hydroid Most people hardly know that the 3-shot AA12 even exists, but some fields are actually banning the HPAs due to their ability to have crazy high ROF, and super high muzzle velocity at the same time. There were supposed cases of cheaters cranking up the fps of their HPA after they passed the fps test (which is a matter of regulator setting for HPAs). Yeah, even 500 fps isn't enough for some mad men here...
I personally don't care what type of gun are you using, 400 fps at almost any range, if you're not psycho aiming for the head. And up to 500 outside buildings. I don't see the point of going all the way to 500 though, as at that fps you have to use heavy ammo, and most people use 0.28 or 0.3 at most in these, even when you really should have like 0.4 to really take advantage of the high fps (from what I saw over and over if you don't increase the weight of the BB alongside your muzzle velocity the range gain is often almost negligible and you only increase the danger of hurting someone badly.
To me (if I wanted a normal assault rifle :D), the sweet spot would be around 460 fps with 0.32 BBs as those are still sold as regular BBs (so you pay per kg) anything upwards from that is considered "precision, sniper" ammo and you pay basically per BB and those cost like 3 times as much.
I think part of the problem with HPA is that you just buy the gun and it is almost instantly capable of those 500+ fps. In the past, if you wanted that you needed to really upgrade the AEG and maintain it properly, not all psychos with money were ready to do that after they realized that their mechabox broke on every other game :D
@@ilmt Yeah HPAs have been a recurring problem at my local indoor field, for the reasons noted in your description. Been trying to tell them to start zip-tying the regulators like Mil-sim fields do but they still don't do it for whatever reason. Just had to kick a dude off the field for that a few games ago. He and his buddy brought an HPA smg and the fps was cranked so high it shot through someone's mask lens and nearly took their eye out
While I dislike the SSG-1 in some ways, one thing I really like about it is the stock and how it can move so it’s easier to aim down sights with a full seal face mask. That is a really good innovation I wish more airsoft guns had.
The shotgun near the end is like a Remington 20 gauge, I fired a 20 gauge and it’s awesome and surprisingly legal in Canada and semi automatic
I was at a site that was going to use that mortar with the huge plastic shells (in the UK). It never worked, possibly because it was absolutely pouring it down. I remember everyone being super disappointed. I remember wishing I had a helmet.
Honestly, I'm surprised that the Classic Army DT4 didn't make this list. I've heard rumors that some fields ban it just because of being able to either DSG or HPA it. That and being able to double mag dump someone isn't very fair either.
Yeah cuz you can make it do 100+ rps
Going to get me a virtual shot so my daughter can practice until she gets older. Also prefect number 1 spot on the list
You are quite the smart fella
the 5th place image when it’s first shown next to the fourth place one is literally the phantom forces aa-12 model
I recently got an airsoft gun and I have been binge-watching anything airsoft.
I’m a UK newbie and one of my first games was against a guy who had one of those AA12’s. It’s absolutely a death machine and the only reason I stood a chance is cause I was rocking a riot shield. Even then you could feel the power through the shield.
Dang
its a japanese aeg firing at 1 joule, relax, its not that crazy
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hi, from Belgium here. i have not been Airsoft for the last two years but i would like to share what i know that is banned/not allowed at our fields.
first off, target lasers and night vision is not allowed on a replica here by law. your not allowed to own them if they can be mounted on your replica.
most field regulate with a ROF limit and they will check for it during the field.
things like filly automatic shotguns are allowed here (yes i saw a AA12 here. it broke after half the day )
also most fields ban any multi-finger triggers. (speedsofters beware )
things like the mortar or rpg that actually shoots a non-bb projectile wile sometimes allowed when asked is most of the time just banned.
Pyro's are also regulated per field.
beyond that we got most of the normal safety and regulations.
interesting vid anyway.
For the record, speedsofters are unpopular not because of what they choose to wear or even what they choose to carry (like the G&G SG1) but because of how they choose to play and the impact that that has on everyone else - Specifically, insane ROF and massive overkill. Sorry, but it's not "hypocritical" at all - it's field owners and other players self-policing their community, and it's a great thing to see. It's not about "defending people who haven't done anything wrong" - it's about understanding that the only real reason someone would be running this setup is to get as close as possible to "doing something wrong" without getting called on it - in other words, their intention is not to have fun and play with a good-faith sporting mentality, but rather to fuck with people without getting called out. IMO, if you are doing this, then you've ALREADY "done something wrong" since you are not even trying to approach the game in good faith.
If you have a hair trigger (or even less skillfully, a dual trigger) or a setup like the SG-1 blade trigger, you're almost certainly spending your time blitzing it to effectively cheat the no-full-auto rules so you can dump as many rounds as possible into other players. If this is you, (and if you are a dedicated speedsoft player then it's probably you), then you can stop whining about your favourite guns getting banned and whining even more about how you are treated by other players on the field because you are a toxic piece of shit and no one has any sympathy for you. If field owners ban dedicated speedsoft-style guns on sight, then that is the fault of the companies and the shitters who use their weapons specifically to carefully flout no-full-auto rules and mag-dump on people at close range purely for their own satisfaction. If you are someone who is actively trying to get as close to that line as possible, if you buy guns specifically to achieve this, then you can cry all you want and call everybody a hypocrite and swear up and down that you haven't done anything wrong, but in the real world no one is going to tolerate your bad-faith nonsense for long, and that is the way it should be.
Respect to all field owners who ban guns proactively - there are hundreds of great models out there, amazing replicas and beautifully engineered guns for everyone of any size or experience level - crying about banned guns just kind of outs you as a toxic shitter who just wants to be out on the field to overshoot and mag-dump ppl, and so again, you'll get no sympathy from the majority of the community because you don't deserve any.
I’m still getting the SSG-1 love that gun
Do it! So good, bro.
I'm still planning on getting it for my first air soft gun.
A shooting sponsor, that's new... Nice
Honestly if content creators did sponsors like these, where the sponsor is actually relevant to the content, youtube would be a better place
@@soap924 honesty same cause TH-cam these days are the fun police against good creators like Scott
The APS shell ejecting shotgun is an interesting study in case law. The same legal issue is coming up again with those realstic glock keychains that eject shells, customers keep asking for larger and larger replicas, not realizing that a 1:1 replica Glock keychain is just...a functional Glock, or at the very least, is considered an imitation firearm, and is illegal in many places.
Hey, that's my local airsoft field! SS airsoft in Georgia, USA! I got the chance to meet you at the 9th year anniversary event there. I was the one dude who won the Sharp Bros. "JACK" AEG M4 during the raffles and got to show it off to you when I went to try it out. I don't know if you remember me or any of that but I just want to said I'm a fan of your videos and it was such a honor to get to play at my local airsoft field with such a star as yourself. Anyways, enough fan boying.
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I’m sorry 1:19 SHOOT SCHOOL??? Am I the only one seeing this
Many more did, however, I believe they are all taking it in the wrong context.
I hope that’s not in the actual app… what were they thinking?
Now that i see this, I play in a bunker that doesn’t allow drum magazines to force breaks in firefights
The strafer is not actually a new idea for a diminished lethality crowd control weapon. The American 180 looks like a Tommy gun with almost 180 rounds of 22lr on tap in full auto.
I’m pretty certain the idea of both is to spray the projectiles at the ground in front of an unruly mob and cause pain or injury in the legs or feet
I wouldn’t endorse using it but it’s an interesting concept
2:53 I swear that AA12 model is from the game known as phantom forces
I love the flak with those tracer bbs it looks so beautiful I want one but I’ll prob get shot by a real shotgun if I bring it to a cqb field
It’s mesmerizing
@@USAirsoft I pre ordered one. Don’t even have it yet and now I can’t use it?
@@alexreys7985 I’d say just check in with the field you want to take it to. Every place has different rules.
@@USAirsoft well if they say no I’ll sell it and hpa my mg42
Okay for the APS Shotgun:
Im from germany and i use the 2020 MK3 model and yes its really frightening what you can actually do with it not only that it can be modified to shoot real 12G there are actually refit kits for it
The MK3 has a different bolt to prevent it but said kits complete ignore that also its hard cause here its seen as a home defense weapon since you can store everything in those shells
I still use it. Its a funny thing but do me a favor and act responsible with it. Airsofts still to a point are guns and it has a reason why we need a certain age here to obtain these.
I haven't played airsoft in a long time..... me and a group friends from my high school and a couple neighboring schools use to get together and have some crazy, high number team battles. I had some early electric m4 copies as well as a couple of those cheapo ww2 replicas like the plastic, horribly built Thompsons and mp-40s youd order online (Ebay in my days)
Being that said,
Its crazy to see just how far it has come in the last 15/20 years.
Some of the bolt action sniper rifles and fully metal built, blowback, ak's and m4's are unreal.
The grenade tech.....
Launchers....etc
Were all the things we dreamed about in those early days
Piper should make and sell a minigun that uses the strafer mechanism for juggernaut game modes.
having a loadout like that that shouts "i take this game seriously" is asking for trouble tbh
Anything that isn’t deadly/insanely unfair should he allowed and the whole thing where the ssg1 was banned like come on man, I run around with a milsim/speed soft load out and have a dye i5, shoulder pads and a tiny g&g CM16 SRS AAAANNNND a TTi hicappa. But I’m still garbage lol innocent till proven guilty ✌🏻
The was the ssg-1 banned ?
I feel this all these people thinking they are real military don't like it when I put 3 round in their back from 5 feet away so they cry about it like come on if it was real life you would be dead so just suck it up and get out, back to the guns, no gun should be banned for anything more than an FPS requirement.
@@banana_phone4228 these are the same people who spend over 5000$ on airsoft and go to those events with the tanks helicopters and all of that shit
@@muffinman3111 Ngl I have about that much into it but I don't cry about dumb stuff like full auto, engagement range, and looks. I want airsoft to be more the way it is in real life where you get shot you're down and that's it, it shouldn't matter what gun or where they hit you. And sometime over shooting happens just like in real life, people just need to grow up and use there brain, don't mag dump but don't cry for being shot 3 times
@@muffinman3111 at some small brained sites yeah with “anti speed soft” owners.
I knew the APS shotgun was all the rage back then, especially in 3 gun matches. But I have no Idea it can get that much BANG for a buck.
9:35
i want it just because it goes BRRRRRRRRT like a A-10
Airsoft is more restricted than actual firearms in America it feels
Les gooooo! All these guns are dope. Don't care what you say.
As soon as I saw the AA-12 on there I was happy, in a game online that I play everyone hates it but the rank 16 players use it so everyone aims for them to kill them for using the AA-12
that aa-12 screenshot is from phantom forces and we relate to not liking the gun, but on a massive level because its overpowered
Some people act like politics and see the SSG1 as an “assault rifle” when every other airsoft gun is some what the same 😂
2:50 i love how he puts the phantom forces aa12 in there
Owner of an AA12 and yep this thing is kinda banned in a lot of sites here in Japan(most of sites doesn't even allow full auto bar some exceptions), but the suppressive fire of this AA12 is sweet, the only problem is this gun is NOISY asf sometimes i can't hear people calling hits when they don't shout it
Know a guy who owns the aa12 at my arena and thankfully I’ve gotten the chance to run it once or twice , super fun gun but the overkill is all too understandable.
Man actually used a phantom forces picture of the AA-12 lol
I don't actively play Airsoft, I can't due to disability. But the only 2 times I've been to a field, the local rules there basically said that if your replica shoots more than 1 BB at a time, the muzzle energy has to be divided up amongst them. So no one there uses shot guns of any sort, unless they've been modified to just shoot a single pellet.
The shell firing type of replica is straight up illegal in my country, as those are potentially compatible with a cartridges for actual weapons. So they are considered fire arms. You could technically own one, but the process to get vetted, verified and licensed takes about 4-5 years. So good luck with that.
Also the Strafer 6mm airsoft BB and the 4.5mm air rifle pellet models are not compatible, their internals share very little in the way of parts. Also the pellet model has a much, much reduced firing rate. And in many countries, the pellet firing model is straight up illegal, either because it's full auto, or because of the muzzle energy. In which case I wouldn't want to be the one explaining to a cop what the differences are between a potentially legal air soft replica and an illegal pellet rifle, nor would I want to risk jail time over possession of illegal weapons.
As for speed softers, I really do not see the problem with them. But if you're going to a hardcore milsim field, don't be surprised if they expect your replica to be milspec as well. Meaning no spade triggers and the likes. Personally I don't like paintball triggers like that, but then I'm used to proper two stage triggers on air rifles that put out a whole lot more energy than what is even remotely legal in airsoft to begin with. But to me they feel like unsafe hair triggers. I'm a range marshal at the range where I shoot air rifles. If someone presented me a rifle with a trigger like that, I would not let them onto the range until they fixed it and installed a safe trigger.
2:52 Funny thing about the AA-12 picture is it's the model from a Roblox FPS game called Phantom Forces. Anyway, I like your content, keep it up!
Also, I think my friend has an AA-12, it's pretty cool. He's used it a bunch of times, and he says he's dropped it on purpose COUNTLESS t times, I don't know why he would do that with such expensive equipment tho.
you're a great TH-camr keep on doing what you're doing
I shall!