A Car Dealership ABANDONED This Jaguar 16 Years Ago... I BOUGHT IT
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2024
- When I heard about a cheap, low mile, Jaguar XJ8 that had been sitting since 2006... I was excited. Even better I could have it dropped off at the house for $1,000 all in. A 4 liter V8, great interior, almost all the modern creature comforts, this is my kinda car. After working on it for an entire day, I understand why the dealer threw in the towel this car is not fun to work on. Hopefully it will all be worth it once I get it running!
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THIS is the OG content we wanted and missed. This is why so many of us loved watching your channel. Keep this going. Don't rush into find a new property. Housing market is still absolute shit and people are getting absolutely screwed and will be so upside down when it crashes.
Oh yeahh
So much past tense :P Allways love the content.
Hi from the UK. My dad passed on the skills of ‘the process of elimination’ to find a fault. It’s wonderful to watch you work using the same principles. In a strange coincidence we also still have my late fathers XJ V8 laid up in a garage.
🤣Neighbors thinking DAMN, I thought we were rid of him
They didn't abandon it - they escaped from it.
😂😂😂 true
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You right
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My dad had one owned it for 8 years not one but of trouble with it
Then bought a jaguar cf no trouble upto now. If you take care of any car no problems with them apart from Ford which are total rubbish
This is the sort of content we come here to watch. Looking forward to part 2. Thought you might have tried the boat tank approach while waiting to change the original pump.
I had an XJ6 and an XK8 and loved them both. Great car and a good buy. Looking forward to seeing it run. I love these types of videos.
I’m here to see you bring this back to life. Every now and then you have a cool project that I just have to see restored
I was kinda hoping the engine was toast, just to watch an LS get swapped in.
The lovely jag tool kit should have been where you suggested the cabin air filter was. Lovely car. They are lovely to waft around in.
I always liked that styling, but I have never been braved enough to buy an older jag.
Great video, the XJ8 was in a similar state to how I picked up my E46. Mine was left for around 18 months. Also needed a fuel pump like the XJ8. In addition, it needed a new, mass airflow meter, battery and coils. The red 2003 Outlander XLS (the car in our CU buyer’s guide video and other channel videos) was also abandoned by its previous owner for well over a year as well and it became a very solid car after the exhaust and suspension issues got sorted. Looking for yet more abandoned cars to save, there’s something about bringing these cars back to life.
i rescued an e39 from a pick n pull, no joke. it is now my daily.
@@andrewgarcia3136 Great to hear that, I hope you love driving it. I always keep my eyes out for cars in those places that could be saved.
That "missing" piece off the back of the intake hose is quite simply a resonator pipe, just a 9" or so length of dead end plastic pipe, so can be blanked off no problem.
I was thinking the same, but wanted to scroll through the comments to confirm.
Well done glad to see you fixing up that great jaguar keep the video coming 👍
have had a few myself and like anything
Good maintenance and the jag will look after you 👌
I've had a few on these in nz, I now only 03 sovereign. Absolutely awesome once you wrap your head around all the jag crap
Yesss the new cars!! I love Jags so much
When they run they're pretty amazing 💯
Get it running, get new tires, detail it and flip it! Love these old Jags!
I'm only 3 minutes in and my mind is blown. How a car dealer let that car perish on a car lot makes my heart hurt.
Bad techs, my wife bought a Jag and they couldn't diagnose a bad turbo and chain slap, which I told them was wrong with it. They told me I was wrong and the engine had to be replaced. It took a week of my time (every evening after work) to replace the turbo, chain, chain tensioners and guides. Car still runs without issues to this day.
Own one and find out why no one would buy that
Must be really bad 🤢🤮
It maybe, a problem child and that's why it was abandoned.
Was this the same engine that ford used in the Lincoln LS?
Oh yeah a couple things that might help, but I'm sure you're probably further along now. The harness to the pump inside the tank likes to disintegrate. Also, sounds like compression off, I see timing codes. These were good about jumping timing due to the upper chain tensioners and they do bend valves. BUT it could have also lost compression on a few cylinders due to being a nikasil engine or just over time... I have brought these engines back to life after the cylinders were washed down with the old oil in the cylinder trick just to build compression again. Worth checking a few things. Also, at least the intake pipe and breather hose are one of the few things still available new.
Good luck, fingers crossed. hope to see it running!
I think he was right about the head gasket.
i think this is why it was dumped. it sounds like something isn't right when it turns over imo. a car like this isn't getting abandoned over a small fault unless it's a misdiagnosis
A good friend of mine has a 2000 Jaguar like that. Runs and drives. His father in law passed away and he is trying to sell it for $1000. Just as nice or even better. Pewter/Tan in color. I think it has all the same bells and whistles as well...
They are a hard sell.
I'm actually pretty excited to follow the rejuvenation of this Jaguar. It's a gorgeous motorcar.
I would like to see compression reading, sounded low on those first dry cranks!
It sounds like it has low compression on most and no compression on one based on the gallop
I have a 2003 XJ8. You mentioned Restricted Performance message, that is very typical with old gas and it clears after a few drive cycles. These cars also have an issue with low compression due to the Nikosil (spelling?) coating on the cylinder walls. With all the cranking you may have to squirt some oil in the cylinders to get it to fire after you get the fuel pump replaced. They have a bad habit of wiping the oil off the walls when they don’t start right away. Mine did it once. and all it took was oil in each cylinder.
These cars ride like a dream, and also handle very well for such large cars. I also have a 2017 F-type, so I’m really enjoying the channel
Even with the issues this thing had when it was parked, it is a shame to let such a beautiful car like this abandoned.
Keep it washed and waxed, some shine on the tires, and it would a damn nice lawn ornament! 🤣
Museum cars don't move much either.
"All show, ----- maybe it'll go!? "
Such a nice car. Deserves some real love to get it back looking and driving perfect!
What a gorgeous machine, can't wait to see more!
Once again finding outstanding vehicles to work on. Love Jags. Looking forward to more on that Cat.
I love these cars. Mine is a 1991 XJ40 Jaguar XJ6 Sovereign. I restored it and it is my summer daily driver. This one is very nice too. Cutting the parcel shelf to get to the fuel pump is the sane way to do this job. It is really the best way to do it.
I actually think this is one of the iconic Jag looks. There is NO WAY you are going to think this is some other brand of car ( like a Toyota Tercel to BMW 3 Series comparison LOL!) when you pass it on the road or see it in a lot. I do believe you have found a gem here for that price shipped!
This should be a fun build/restore to watch.
Oh yeah....
Have you thought about doing a standard inspection video for you and us?
I would love to expect the same what's going on video for every "new to you/us" vehicle you purchase. This way we think everything is going ok and BAM! Suspenseful issues, or, nothing happens. I think it would be a great thing to see standardized.
Thanks again for the great content you still find to put out. Even without a bazillion square foot garage!
Love the old Jags! Would really like to see you get your hands on an old XJS V12!
This car will be a HUGE win if JR can get it sorted. Fingers, toes, and eyes are crossed for good luck.
How do you classify a win? I would classify it by being able to sell it for a profit after the repair. I don't think that will happen in this case.
@@mexicanspec I hope, for JR's sake, you are wrong. Just wishing the best of luck with a win/profit
Can't wait to see more of this. I've had a couple of these cars and they're just so nice. I'd still have my last one now were it not for the Mayor of London expanding his stupid Ultra Low Emission Zone to cover where I live next year, meaning I was forced to change it. Got an X350 now which is still a nice car, but doesn't feel as special as these do. Don't get me wrong, the X308 isn't a car without its faults out of the box, but they can all be fixed and, while you shouldn't have to do them, once you do, they are actually really robust and reliable cars.
I've done a fuel pump on one of those. It sucks. Also, if I remember correctly the pump mounting flange had sharp edges that cut me a few times. Hopefully yours doesn't.
Cool project, we have similar taste in cars. I’ve had several old Jags over the years. They’re great when they run!
Sweet Jag 😎. Just waiting on the day you'll have a Saleen Mustang S281 on the channel.
JR you need an OHM meter that pauses/locks the reading. That way you can plug it in, turn the key, and you'll see what the reading was.
Did you check to see if the exhaust (cat and/or muffler) clogged?
Had a lot of jags in the family. Change the gearbox filter and oil, regardless of what the oil looks like. These are one of my favourites, although the 4ltr 6 cylinder in the best in my opinion with a manual!
The AJ16 is the best engine Jag produced-
My brother ran Jags in the ,70's , mum was in the back of it , (not a speed fan) she leant over looked at the dash,and said "good for you ,you're only doing 60mph, good lad".
Bro kept diplomatically quiet, mum was reading the rev counter by mistake, ------ he was doing 130+ mph.
Wonder if the previous owner ran the fuel tank near empty?
According to Scotty Kilner, don't let the fuel level go below 1/4 tank.
Keep the fuel pump always submerged in the gas to keep it cool.
sounds cylinder washed/low compression, i know that sound, needs a little oil down the cylinders and it will fire right up...
Those were beautiful looking cars, but Jags were not known for their reliability. (Although I think 1999 may have been during the Ford years so perhaps better than prior to this.) Good luck, I hope it is just the fuel pump as you've diagnosed although looks like a total PITA to replace.
That interior is almost like a time capsule, amazing. I'm sure you'll get this beast going again, whether it's worth anything to someone remains to be seen, though. After all, it's a Jaaaaaaaaaaaag...
i have Two of these, 1998 models...actually really good cars
I have the 1998 version of this car. Mine had the broken sunroof (a common problem). It was $1000 to fix so no one wanted the car. I sealed it shut and we have driven this car all over the country. One of the best cars I have ever bought. Drives like a dream. Please get it back on the road again. By the way, I get more comments from people on this car everywhere I go. It is a looker for sure!
Neat video about a really lovely car. Or is that lawn ornament? Once you get to grips with how these cars were designed and built they are surprisingly easy to work on. Once working properly they are wonderful to drive. Enjoy
Looking forward to seeing more of this car!
JR: "It's like hopping into a brand new house!"
Me: it is? 🤣
jag man - think about v12 option - put on efi kit in lieu of weber? just get it going and cruise it - has cachet value - you may want to replace fuel and tank? hope you don't have to replace all wiring or something
I think I am going to enjoy this one. Sitting tight waiting for the next episode.
Damn - you were deaf for three minutes after the backfire? I had the same thing happening on a '78 928, when the battery exploded on startup in the trunk, with the lid to the battery compartment open. Lucky for me, I also had the driver's side door open for the pressure wave to escape. Nonetheless I thought, it totally blew my eardrums.
Glad, your hearing came back the same way mine did!
Hope, you get that Jag back on the road.
The fuel pump is priming, but not running. What safety fuel cut-off features does the car have?
1. Hmmm...Ford DNA, so somewhere there is an Inertia Switch which prevents the pump from running in case of an impact. Push reset button if it is popped. 2. Next , does the tach move while cranking or when it briefly starts? If no, then either crank or cam sensor is out - needs both to confirm engine is running and allow fuel pump to continue after priming.
3. Hey, the AFM looks like it is attached to the airbox, and you have the snorkel removed. So the AFM isn't seeing any airflow, so it is not giving the ECM a signal to allow the fuel pump to continue running after priming. Reconnect intake snorkel and try again. Love the project, thanks for the content.
JR, an S-Type R does not have a FORD engine! Nor does an F-Type. Both have a Jaguar engine, that was designed by Jaguar and is today built by Jaguar. But when Ford owned Jaguar, the engine was built by the Ford Premier Group engine plant in the UK. The Ford Premier Group was Jaguar, Volvo, Aston Martin, Land Rover, and Lincoln. When Ford bought Jaguar in the early '90s, they were so impressed with the V8 Jaguar had under development, Ford decided to build it and use it across the Premier Group range, plus in the Thunderbird. After Ford sold Jaguar, Ford continued to build the engine and use it in Lincolns, and Ford built it for Jaguar under contract. Ford discontinued the engine in Lincolns a few years ago, and all the tooling and machinery was purchased by Jaguar, and today, the engine is built in house. To say the Jaguar V8, or V6 derivative, is a Ford is like saying an Audi has a VW engine. Some of the early Jaguar I4 and V6 engines were Fords but not the V8 or later V6, which is the V8 with the back 2 cylinders blanked off.
Such a classic design on these XJs. I hope you can give it a new lease on life, JR!
I actually love that you are back in "the garage". Just fine by me!!
owned a 2002 XJ8 , pretty much a Lincoln LS drivetrain with Jag problems, i dont regret getting rid of it
The S-Type R didn’t use a Ford engine. It was a Jaguar AJV8, not a Ford design actually
Really hope you get the old girl fixed sure you will, i love jags only ever had one a 1986 series 3xj6 loved it but yours looks in great condition and very low mileage, looking forward to seeing the next episode on it,
I had a 99 XJR for about a year that I got in a offerup trade for my E53 X5 3.0 with low compression. That had to be the worst car I’ve ever owned. Oil leaks, limp mode engaging randomly, loose wandering steering, the front cradle holding the engine would move around if you stopped hard then then come crashing back into position, the supercharger would suck the rubber tubing in on itself causing the car to die or run horribly, lots of bad bushings etc. I fixed it just enough and sold it to a young dude who spammed me constantly until I sold it to him. Careful spraying the throttle body I think that’s what caused my “restricted performance” limp mode. It did look amazing though. The kids would always comment ooh you got a Jag. I think Kodak Black had something to do with that. In my new old Jag but it’s so fast😅
Had a dark green 99 XJ8. They are awesome cars. So comfortable and great on long trips. Weak points were the brakes (always spongy) and a tendency toward overheating in 90°+ temps in traffic.
The leaping big cat on the hood is called the 'leaper' by Jaguar, and the emblem for the trunk pushbutton (just the face) is known as the 'growler'. I love me my Jags.
Very enjoyable/relatable to see you do this stuff in a 2 car garage.
Same key as an Aussie Ford AU Falcon called a Tibbe key / lock was an attempt to provide more security than the standard blade keys of the era. A lot of locksmiths will not duplicate or cut them they require up to 32 precise cuts to be machined into the key
god forbid the key wears out , last i checked in 2021 while I still had my xj8 the uncut keys were going for $375 us, from jaguar classic.
@@2JZDestroyer you can just use ford key blanks from same era, cheap as, its basically a ford with jag body
I rented a 1998 Ford Mondeo wagon In Dresden, Germany in April of 1998. The rental was going to Poland. It was given to me because of the security that the key gave the car. Many new cars were stolen by visitors from the east. Same key as the Jag.
early jag keys are 8 cut later ones are 6 cut like other fords
Another great video! Curious, why didn't you just open your garage door to work on the car? Was it raining or is the weather cold there?
Just tuned in a minute ago. I also had an XJ6 Vanden Plas and it had high miles but in good shape black exterior and saddle tan interior. I am a car nut that can do most work and surprisingly oil changes and tires were about it. (I think it only had one big wiper on the front windscreen but would have to look at pics.) Thanks and 99-07 are my dream and favorite Jagggs. (Think Jeremy Clarkson.)
i bought same model in L.A for over 12 years ago, now i got it in norway, the engine lamp have been on and off for 12 years,the same has stabbilitty control,and sometimes engine safe mode turns on. But engine runs good. I took it to Poland last week for service and paint job. First service i did was brake pads in the back,that service cost 35 dollars,so the cost of service should not cost that much compare to norway
Please, please check the timing chain… it ruins all XK and XJ8 engines one day… the tensioner and the guides break and the engine is done then… I am happy to see you doing my fav. car.
John, have a question about my sons Volvo C30. Did a whole bunch of work on it, but has two broken bolts on exhaust manifold… screechy cold starts. Every shop around me tells me that the car is totaled as it needs an ‘engine-out’ to repair.
Does that sound accurate?
104k miles with new timing belt.
That’s BEAT. I love that darn car.
One thing you want to do to try and get the compression up is to pull the fuel pressure relay and then crank it several times for at least 15 seconds this helps circulate the oil up the rings a little bit as if the oil drains off the rings you will not have enough compression. It's a high compression engine really requires that if you tried that again you might actually get it to run.
and it's a late '99. The early ones had different cam phasers, your revision continued until they swapped it for the 4.2 in the x350 generation.
I love the Jags from the late 90s early 2000s
I had 98 VandanPlas had to do 2 fuel pumps, that whining noise is 100% the fuel pump. There is also an issue with the software on the car. if you do a quick start to say move the car around your driveway and you turn it off cold, the computer will dump a bunch of fuel and do sort of a vaporlock. There is a specific starting sequence cant remember, I think it was keep it at half throttle and crank it forever and it will eventually start like a spitfire. I also had to replace the intake manifold at 125k miles the butterfly valve gets gummed up. There was some issues with the Nikasil cylinders but I never ran into that problem. I also replaced the timing chain tensioners preemptively because they were made with brittle plastic and I also did the thermostat housing preemptively. Mine was a 98 and I know they sorted some of this stuff by 99 so make sure to do your own research.
I bought a $1000 ($can) non running 2001 xj8 as a parts car for my 2003 XJR. A couple of hours later and new plugs and one new coil and BAM, it's a runner and my 17 year old son claimed it as his daily. He loves it, his friends love it, and I need to find a parts car for the parts car.
OOOhhhhhhh, I spy with my little eye, an apple watch ultra. Neat! nice upgrade! I just replaced mine last year, so couldn't pull that trigger, but might in a few more years. How do you like it so far?
Jaguar does have some nice interiors
LS SWAP IT! Seriously… it’s easy and it’s AMAZING… you can even put in a LS/T56 combo. I opted for a LS1 and 4L60E combo with a Texas speed cam and a 2200 stall converter… it’s hilariously fun.
That jag is niiiiiiiice. Look forward to seeing the progress on this!
Always loved those older jags.
Check that chain tensioners between cams have been updated
Like Scott at Vehcor says "Somebody's been here before!"
I'm glad the paint is still intact at the battery tray. I've seen AA batteries explode and eat the paint clean out of an army ammo can. I think there were maybe a dozen AA batteries left in an ammo can, in a storage building over the course of a year. Between a hot summer and cold winter, those batteries didn't make, but they sure cleaned up that ODG paint in that can.
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I was a passenger in a 1999 in Italy. My friend's new XK8 was playing up, so the dealership gave him the XJ as a courtesy car. It was nice. Very quick
In had an 89 1/2 V12 XJS. Loved it and had a blast with it for years.
Really nice car man. Are you going to sort it and flip it or keep it a while? Get one of those hooptie MAACO resprays like Hoovie. Let his daughter pick the color. Hoovie had a plum crazy porche. You could have a plum crazy jag.lol
Those tanks are a nightmare. John, those keys are not Jag, they are Ford, as most of the switches in the car as that is a Jaguar - Ford era car. You can be use a Ford Mondeo aka Fusion remote of the same era in that car, is just a question of reprogram it. Be careful with those key barrels are they are know if to go bad.
Sounds like it may have low compression on 2 cylinders.
I like that car. I hope you sort it out fully because dang, it's a gem at 70k-something miles and that nice interior.
Cars like this is why I like your channel
When one of your American mates asks you, "Youu got a hybrid??", you can say, "No, I've got a Jaaaaaaaaaaaagggggggggggggg". LOL. Excellent car, hope you get everything fixed. This AJV8 is known for head gasket failures, and the ZF 5 Speed Gearbox is known to self destruct, so you may have to overhaul it. Hope you can save this Jag! Hello from GB.
Timing chain tensioners should be changed on the early models if I remember correctly. Not as good as the later ones. Also transmission can go bad if not maintained. I tried to save a BMW E24 that a BMW dealership abandoned for the same amount of time but it got scrapped at the end.
doing head gaskets and timing right now on my 2000 jaguar xjr , can’t wait to finnish !!
I love these Jags, drove a couple back in England that were late 90s models. Still love how they drive. Shame they are not reliable cars.
Backfire, the last car I had that did that it turned out to be caused by a burned valve. I'd do a compression test, oil change and cut the filter open to make sure no metal was in it. And an oil analysis wouldn't be a bad idea also, before spending more money on it.
Brilliant, can’t wait to see your progress on this one, I’ve subscribed on the strength of it.
I don’t think a non-thrashed, reasonably low mileage ‘99 would have been worth so little in 2006 that the owner would have walked away from it and the dealer wouldn’t do something with it, unless it had something worse than a fuel pump wrong with it. Do you have one of those oscilloscope setups like Eric O uses, where you can do kind of an implied compression test?
Dude, fix it all up perfect and give it to your dad! He liked your other Jag bet he should like this one and these cars drive really smooth. You think he would love to be surprised with this?
He actually likes his dad.
John Ross I think the’99/4.0 litre engines of this era had a potential problem with the camshaft chain drive or tensioners. This was either the subject of a recall or something Jaguar dealers had a kit for. Problem ironed out with the subsequent 4.2 litre engines.
Hi john yes they recall for 3.2 and 4.0 v8 engines for upgrade plastic tensioners to metal ones
Props for saying jaguar correctly!
And for rescuing the car 💪💪💪💪💪
This should become your next drift or burnout car. Leave the interior fully intact, but convert to E85 *now* and drop in an LS and run it on a Holley EFI. Do it. It’s like the Rolls but waaaayyyy newer and easier to deal with.
fun fact here if you hold down the button on the blinker as you turn the ignition on (hold for a few seconds after as well) it will go into diagnostic mode where you can read engine codes and general health and functions of the car. Hope that helps if you need it.
I bought a 2000 Xj8 for $510!. Guy selling it had attempted to replace the fuel pump and totally butchered the job, and threw it on eBay, starting price of $500, and he was only about 5 miles from me. On a lark, I proxy bid $800, and wound up winning it for $510!! Spent some money getting the fuel pump and his butchery repaired, and then spent way too much time chasing vacuum leaks. Once it was sorted, it was a rock solid dependable car. Found a wrecked XJR, and bought the "Asteroid" wheels and the XJR grille. Had a little poor mans XJR, at least in appearance. She is on my list of wish I had never sold that" cars, but the guy I sold it to is still driving it as his daily!
You gotta mix some 2 cycle oil in with your hand held FI system. It helps lube and is a little less explosive.
NICE! The XJ is my all time favourite ride. I had an XJ6 4.2L 1978 I loved that car even though it had terrible reliability. 😀😀
In 1997ish I bought a used abandoned XJ6 in Rancho Mirage California had it for about 4 years never got it running turned out to be Fran Sinatra old Palm Springs car sold it madr good profit on it.
When I first saw the tank in the trunk, I thought, what a good idea, it should make fuel pump and servicing emission systems easier. (LOL)