Update June 30th, 2024: Their bodies were found in Tennessee 😭💔😭💔 Condolences to their families and friends. 00:00:00 Intro 00:02:35 Who is missing, and since when are they missing? 00:04:00 The end of a 7 year relationship 00:05:15 Raegan was arrested 3 days before 00:09:10 What was she arrested for? 00:11:10 Map time 00:13:35 When was Chandler last seen? 00:17:03 CORRECTION: She owns the car they are believe to be in 00:20:35 BOLO (Be On The Lookout) 00:22:20 NOTE: This is from October 2023, and there were SEVERAL police calls made 00:25:10 Where did their phones last ping? 00:27:15 She left a note in her unlocked apartment 00:29:35 Did cameras see what happened at the vehicles at the gym? 00:31:11 Comments from Chandler's mom, Jane 00:36:15 RED FLAGS 00:39:00 Liberty County Fire Department Media Statement 00:44:40 What is her/their last known location? 00:47:07 Court TV interview with Jane Kuhbander 01:03:54 Chandler was spotted at the gym 01:04:26 Chandler's mom explains why he would've gotten in her car 01:14:55 Map time 01:16:26 NOTE: A commenter said these updates could be from the musician/content being updated vs. the Playlist 01:18:40 Debrief and Outro
G I am loving the new intro with the bears so nice to look at when the topics are not the nicest yet we want to watch. Keep up the fantastic work you do in delivery of the latest info on the most interesting cases
I have ZERO empathy for this woman. I don't care what her mental state, medication, blah blah blah is. She stalked, coerced and threatened this man, and now he's missing. She's a perpetrator and a predator. Period.
I was on a date with a man who was a police officer. His ex girlfriend stormed in and started screaming and punching him. I got up and left as well. Later on she got HIM arrested for DV and he was trying to defend himself. People like this are terrifying and need professional help.
Not only were the bodies found today. The family was notified via Facebook not from the police. The press should be ashamed of themselves, seriously. 😒
The press? I mean...we're watching a form of independent press now. It's their job to report news as they learn it, and police know they should quickly notify or this will happen. Or did something out of the norm happen here?
It's the time we live in!!! The transmission of information is instant.. It's not a very intelligent thing to be mad at social media. Instead a focus energy on how we got here, And I don't know, maybe how to fix it. If you are that upset, delete all of your social media, It's a start.😅
Definitely a ball was dropped; but family is going to be glued to social media for any clues. Sadly, I bet they saw it before it even got back to local law enforcement.
It’s important to remember that women can be predators as well. I’m saying that as a woman who was m*lested by an adult woman from a young age. Evil itself is the problem, NOT a given demographic. I am praying for all involved in this case, that they will come to safety and that she will get the help she clearly needs.
agreed! I used to work at a crisis shelter which 99.9% of the callers- victims were female, however I did get a call one evening from an abused man! he was disabled and trapped and needed help! it happens y'all.. 😬.. the scary part is that men in that kind of situation don't usually reach out for help as much as women do.. but it is a very real thing!
I live about mins from Piegon Forge and Gatlinburg, they're cities located in The Great Smokey Mountains, the phone signal is extremely spotty in the mountains. Those cities will be packed with tourists right now because it's a popular vacation spot with lots of amusement parks (Dollywood, The Dixie Stampede, water parks, etc.), camping, rafting, and stuff like that. I'll go up tomorrow and put up flyers. Praying for their safe return. ❤
Thank you for bringing awareness to this case, G! The circumstances behind their disappearance does not sound promising! I am still hoping that they both are found safe! Excellent presentation, G!
This is where i live....near Pigeon Forge TN and we have been getting notifications about this case for a few days now. Ive been keeping my eyes open every time i go out. Praying for the family and praying for his safety and well-being
@@skylergrey3507Yep. We’re right at the Smokey Mountains. There is cell service in pigeon Forge, Gatlinburg and most of the Smokey’s. Up towards the top of the mountain in the backroads there was a no cell service
I live right outside of Pigeon Forge in (Wears Valley). At first, I thought it could be a murder/suicide situation. I still think that makes the most sense. However, I get this odd feeling like (his) mother isn't telling the whole story. Like she's holding out some of the details, trying to play nice and not step on toes of (the female & her family). The (males) mothers side is the only side I've heard so far.
The family seems so genuine and caring. Being that they were high school sweethearts, and now 24 years old, she was obviously close to his family. Despite his family being scared and justifiably upset with her being the catalyst to this event, they want them back safely. I can not imagine how they are feeling. I’ve always said that having a missing loved one would be worse than a final outcome. The unknown is awful.
My co workers 16 year old daughter disappeared without a trace, 8 years ago. She was off work for 2 years and came back. She says she imagines her daughter being tortured every night but doesn't want to imagine her dead either. It would be the literal worst. I feel for chandlers mom 😢
Try to keep the faith hun!🙏 Let's start a Prayer chain around the USA for Chandler & Reagan's safe return! I wish the media hadn't reported the phone pings. They always leak too much!.. perhaps if they're listening, might not have thought to turn phones off.. Be sure LE has tried looking at location thru Snapchat! (sometimes they don't think to turn that location off!) :( i get what they're saying!.. he may be in a situation where he's having to go with the flow for now.. hoping to ease her fears of separation🙏
I spoke with Aurora Kuhbander, the sister and she is hanging in there. I gave her some ideas to have the PD to send toll booths the BOLO and to see if stores around her have footage of her purchasing a burner phone. This is such a sad scary situation. I pray they find both Raegan and Chandler SAFE.
Hi dear Gisela, I’m tuning in from Australia 🇦🇺. You are such an asset to the True Crime Community. I couldn’t imagine us not having you reporting on these hideous crimes. The saddest part of all this the community needs creator like. It’s where we can get the fact of these cases. In that process it lets us get a true inform view and understanding of the cases. It has been 3 hour from you post on this case. I for one has started to ask God to intervene on this induction. I pray they will come back. I myself who has gone through a terrible case of DV, even though being a woman going through it, it’s very easy picking up signs of DV and who is causing the DV by words spoken. There is certain words victims will not say, with the fear not to triggering the situation. I have a get feeling this is a murder suicide. The reasons, I say this is because she has had a plan. But she has to build her courage to hurt herself. She know she is up for a kali sentence. And unless an interpreter is there with them he has no hope. I’ve been through this and if he gets through this, the recovery will be very hard to get through. Let’s all pray for a miracle or for her to become so tied and exhausted he can escape. Love you being here with us a Big Thank you.
This is my area.. this is the most bizarre case ever! Everyone first thought it wasn't true, thar his family was just over protective or they say he ran off with her and doesn't want his family to know but now everyone is genuinely concerned for both of their wellbeing as there has been zero communication with either of them. Super scary!
I feel sure she took that gun and made him get in the car. People should never go to a second location. Take your chances where you are at. Run and zig zag, because her intentions are to kill you anyway rather than see you with another woman. I don't think this is not going to end well, but I am still going to pray for a good outcome. She may take her own life since she has threatened before and now she knows she is out of options. God please bless this family and loved ones during their time of grief. Thank you for bringing this story to us.
Exactly. The chances of her firing at him in public would be significantly lower than if he obeyed, thinking he could buy some time or talk her down. No. If they are already waving a gun, ordering you into their car, there is probably no getting through to that person.
The part about not going with someone is so key. Refuse. Scream. Make a scene. Make yourself dead weight. You are significantly more likely to be killed if they can get you to a secondary location.
Now that both were found deceased, I'm wondering if she unalived him and then herself. I just found out they were found deceased, and didn't read the details, if they have them.
The update made me literally feel sick. To those who feel DV does not happen to men, open your eyes! My sorrow for his family is endless - they obviously loved them both. Just a horrible horrible situation, two young people just starting their lives. I am so so sorry.
"I can't live without you ". "The relationship is over when I say it's over". " If I can't have you, no one can have you". If anyone says any one of these things to you, you are in a heap of trouble.😮💨
Super annoying when someone encounters a toxic human it is a toxic relationship and feels more than one sided toxicity. Many times the participating victim/peacemaker is trying to navigate out =away from the toxic.
Exactly! She was a self-absorbed narcissist that couldn’t accept he wanted a life outside of the D.A. He was a handsome young man who sounds like an incredible person. She is so ugly inside and out. If you want to unalive yourself, fine. Don’t selfishly take others with you.
I'm so glad this channel is covering this, I just heard "2 firedighters found deceased" & have absolutely no idea what's happening or if it was a fire or anything
You live in Cocke county too? If so you are correct. NOTHING ever gets solved unless it falls in their laps and they have to do something and it's usually a cover up.
Gatlinburg is very high in the mountains. It’s a very popular tourist area, with very thick forest and isolated areas. God please be with this family and praying for Chandlers safe return.
Thanks for reminding everyone that toxic comments won't help at this time. I hope there is a way she can get to find help and that everyone is safe. I haven't been to Gatlinburg in a long time but there are many isolated places to hide out there, cell phone coverage can be spotty especially in the hills. I think many males don't know the hand signal. This is a good time to teach your friends and family members.
I also have not been in the Gatlinburg area in a long time but I agree that people have gone missing in the Smoky Mountains. Prayers for the families. 🙏🏻
@@teresathayn5170it is a signal that we can use to alert people quietly if we are being held against our will or in a DV situation. Gisela demonstrated it in the video. Hold your hand up as if to stay stop. Fold the thumb in then fold the fingers down over the thumb so it is now a fist.
@teresathayn5170 The hand signal is done to show onlookers if you are being held against your will. It is palm forward in stop position. Now leave four fingers up and thumb inward against the palm of hand. Then close the four fingers over the thumb if ever needed for signaling help.
That arrest, was a reality check the relationship was over. I watched the mom's interview and this girls mental state was off before the arrest. 5 ,6, 7 years together does not give her the right to act like a child at the age of 24...she has guilt tripped him numerous times to unalive herself if he left her and he has always tried to help her avoid doing that. His family loves her, but shes is selfish & manipulative. I hope he is okay , her as well but theres so many red flags atp
I don’t think these people care about their “right” to act a certain way. G said that too. But she also said that this woman was severely struggling with mental health…I don’t think that people struggling with mental health are super keen on behaving how they should behave
It sounds like she is tracking him either from his phone or she put a Apple tracker on his vehicle. Prayers that they both will be found safe and sound 🙏
Thank you for covering this case. I live 45 minutes from them and work in their town. I don’t know them but I feel terrified for their situation all the same. It’s strange that it’s been so long since the last publicly known sighting of the car or either of the people. Hard to believe if they are still on the move no one and no cameras have seen anything. The longer it goes without an update the more dread I feel. I pray they are safe.
People keep asking why does he own her car, they were in a 7 year relationship. There are many reasons why he owns her car but the most obvious is she had bad credit and he financed it.
My hope is he is riding around with her to make her comfortable and stable. I’m from GA and have been all up in those mountains throughout my life. Very beautiful and can be very remote. Cell service is not great at all when you get into those mountains. It’s one thing I always hated in case of an emergency or wanting/needing to look something up, even directions.
Sad to report that Chandler and Raegan were found deceased in Cocke County, TN, in or near Raegan's car. This was reported an hour ago, about 1:45 pst, So tragic and condolences to Chandler and Raegan's families.
Today is the last day on f June,which was also men’s mental health month. The world needs to take men in abusive relationships more seriously. Even a male firefighter might feel ridiculed for asking for help against a psychopath female. That’s where society needs to change.
I commend his mother for speaking out and helping advance public awareness, when her thoughts were that she didn’t want to catastrophize the situation. Her heart knows these red flags are too much. She is doing the right thing here. I hope her son comes home safely ASAP. Why is it most DV aggressors threaten to unalive themselves to maintain control? This is gross and so textbook. Praying for Chandler, his sweet mama, and his entire family & network of friends.
My parents live in pigeon Forge, I’ll pass this on to them and tell them to be on the lookout for the car or them ! Praying they are both found and safe!
I think she did something to him before the stop at the gas station. IMO He was forced into her car, there is no way he would just sit quiet in the car 7 hours away from home and not getting in touch with his family? Nahhh The family read all the text's on his Apple watch. Not one time did he say yes to meet her, he addament said no. Take that she sent him a picture of her gun, he had her arrested days before AND he have had a date with another girl. Huge motive to hurt him. He knew that going off with her, would be like entering the dragons den. I have no doubt that he was forced to go.6
I pump my gas when alone. But there's no way my husband would sit in the car and let me pump the gas. I'm thinking most men would get out. So the fact that he doesn't is scary to me. Maybe he was gone already and she just had his phone.
We have a friend that was abused by his ex-wife and wouldn't report it as he would've been fired from the sheriff's department. He moved out to the barn and drank a lot to deal with it and had black eye. He finally left her. She had issues. Praying this couple is found soon!!! 🙏
*Why would he be fired for reporting that he was getting abused by his ex wife? So he can develop a drinking addiction and have a black eye and there’s nothing he can do about that?Why does he have to suffer?*
@@kingroyal3304 exactly 💯 but sadly that's how they are if there is abuse in the home. That's why he never laid a hand on her where she would have had a chance to call.
This is going to happen more and more. I taught my children how to handle rejection. They learned at a very young age that they aren't going to get what they want. This woman is crazy! When I was young (a long time ago) we could tell by looking at someone if they were crazy, not anymore.
No you couldn’t. Why do you think they get away with it? They don’t look like monsters. They look like your neighbor, your grandpa, your teacher, your priest. Crazy looking doesn’t equal predator
Good for you random! Teaching kids how to handle emotions is not being done anymore! Therefore they just call it a crisis. It's sounds better on social media 😢
Blue is so lovely on you G. You are such an amazing voice for victims and families. Facts (bullet points pls!) and compassion in such an intelligent presentation. Thank you for your hard work! 🐻 Patreon 🙌
Gisela, just for your information look up Great Smoky Mountains. They are a part pf the Appalachians which stretch from N Alabama to Canada. The Smokies are an unimaginably huge, rugged, ancient mountainous area! Btw, I thank you for the heartfelt manner in which you cover these case. I’ll have these folks in my prayers
Great that you are featuring this on your channel. My heart breaks for this mother of Chandler 😢. Hopefully this case picks up traction fast. Will pray for his safe return quickly 🙏
I have shared the video on my social media. I live near Huntsville, Alabama but have family and friends who live near or have property in the Pigeon Forge area. I’m the mom of a 21 year old young man. I can’t imagine what this family is going through. I’m definitely hoping they are found soon. Sending love.
Uhhh Yeah he was more than 20 miles away on a Date 🤷🏼♀️ He was Most likely trying to Keep the Peace and Reagan was Most Likely STALKING him! Her being on Medication just Adds to the Problems within their relationship. I'm Sure She Did in Fact have the Mindset of "IF I CAN'T HAVE YOU THEN NO BODY WILL".... Now she has a Criminal Record and thinks that She has Nothing to Loose 🤨 Either Way this Is Tragic for All Involved. May they Both be Found Alive and Whom Ever is the Culprit of this Incident, May they Pay their Consequences in FULL 🙏🏾
This story sounds like it's going to have a horrible ending. The gas station surveillance video only shows her....😢 I feel like she has killed him and is on the run. Hope I'm wrong and he's ok and able to escape. Thanks G for covering this!!
He wasn't working a "later shift." It was clearly his off day. Firefighters work 24 hr shifts in that area of the country. Like 7 or 8 in the morning, until 7 or 8 the next morning.
I have seen so many videos about this and this woman… God bless her. I am so sorry for your loss ma’am. It’s so apparent the way she fiercely loved her son, and she tried to give the woman who murdered him the benefit of the doubt. May he rest in peace and beautiful wonderful mama find closure.
😢 NOTE: BREAKING! Sad news to report. The two missing firefighters were found deceased in Cocke County, just east of Gatlinburg Tennessee. Authorities aren't releasing any details as of this moment but I'm sure they will soon. Not the outcome we was all hoping for. 😓😓
Omgosh her manipulative texts about hurting herself or being in distress and needing him to come over gave me that nauseous feeling! I lived that many years ago and would go running to that person every time until I finally learned to stop. This is not good guys…. 😢
There is cell service in pigeon Forge and gatlinburg. Places in the Smokey mountains have no service. Tennessee has automatic plate readers. If it is in the system it will flag if an officer is behind them
Two lives wasted. She needed some counseling. We've all had our heart broken and think we can't cope. But, we do and life gets better. But not for these two. Prayers for the families. So heartbreaking.
She has a control issue as well as abandoment issue. No phone pings? they need to look in water places like lakes and streams. Sorry for the family of both.
I'm 25 and I think that when a couple breaks up the best thing 1 can wish is the other finds happiness ? If you truly love someone why wouldn't you want that for them ?
Because she's unstable, probably has a lot of unresolved mental health issues. It's hard for a healthy person sometimes to get to that "I wish you the best" place you're talking about. It takes time and space. This was far from a healthy relationship. Her threatening to hurt herself multiple times is very telling. In this situation they didn't have space because they worked at the same place. She knew he was done and when nothing worked to get him back she panicked and sprung into action.
I truly feel sorry for Chandler. I also can't help feeling sorry foe Reagan that she lacks dignity so she could let go and move on. I would never insist to continue being someone who no longer wants me in their life. But then again I'm not Reagan. She must have needed psychological help time ago
Update June 30th, 2024: Their bodies were found in Tennessee 😭💔😭💔 Condolences to their families and friends.
00:00:00 Intro
00:02:35 Who is missing, and since when are they missing?
00:04:00 The end of a 7 year relationship
00:05:15 Raegan was arrested 3 days before
00:09:10 What was she arrested for?
00:11:10 Map time
00:13:35 When was Chandler last seen?
00:17:03 CORRECTION: She owns the car they are believe to be in
00:20:35 BOLO (Be On The Lookout)
00:22:20 NOTE: This is from October 2023, and there were SEVERAL police calls made
00:25:10 Where did their phones last ping?
00:27:15 She left a note in her unlocked apartment
00:29:35 Did cameras see what happened at the vehicles at the gym?
00:31:11 Comments from Chandler's mom, Jane
00:36:15 RED FLAGS
00:39:00 Liberty County Fire Department Media Statement
00:44:40 What is her/their last known location?
00:47:07 Court TV interview with Jane Kuhbander
01:03:54 Chandler was spotted at the gym
01:04:26 Chandler's mom explains why he would've gotten in her car
01:14:55 Map time
01:16:26 NOTE: A commenter said these updates could be from the musician/content being updated vs. the Playlist
01:18:40 Debrief and Outro
Thanks!!!
G I am loving the new intro with the bears so nice to look at when the topics are not the nicest yet we want to watch. Keep up the fantastic work you do in delivery of the latest info on the most interesting cases
Hey @Grizzly Jane is planning a live on TikTok at noon ET. That’s about 2 hours from now. Heads up. Thanks again for all you do!
Here for the 🕑 timestamps 🕑 thank you as always for doing those! They're appreciated 👏 💐
Perfect Title 💯
NOTE: Her mental state sounds like; “If I Can’t Have You, No Can’t”
Specially after sending him a picture of her gun, clearly a message to him.
I have ZERO empathy for this woman. I don't care what her mental state, medication, blah blah blah is. She stalked, coerced and threatened this man, and now he's missing. She's a perpetrator and a predator. Period.
They are both missing. We don’t know if he went willingly or not. I’ve been following this for days
Right!
@@sparklylittlechicken terrible 😢 so sad!!!
They’ve been found deceased.
She killed him💔
I was on a date with a man who was a police officer. His ex girlfriend stormed in and started screaming and punching him. I got up and left as well. Later on she got HIM arrested for DV and he was trying to defend himself. People like this are terrifying and need professional help.
Not only were the bodies found today. The family was notified via Facebook not from the police. The press should be ashamed of themselves, seriously. 😒
The press? I mean...we're watching a form of independent press now. It's their job to report news as they learn it, and police know they should quickly notify or this will happen. Or did something out of the norm happen here?
Now that is pathetic to find out on a social networking website
That's terrible. Someone dropped the ball.
It's the time we live in!!! The transmission of information is instant.. It's not a very intelligent thing to be mad at social media. Instead a focus energy on how we got here, And I don't
know, maybe how to fix it. If you are that upset, delete all of your social media, It's a start.😅
Definitely a ball was dropped; but family is going to be glued to social media for any clues. Sadly, I bet they saw it before it even got back to local law enforcement.
It’s important to remember that women can be predators as well. I’m saying that as a woman who was m*lested by an adult woman from a young age.
Evil itself is the problem, NOT a given demographic.
I am praying for all involved in this case, that they will come to safety and that she will get the help she clearly needs.
I am so sorry that happened to you, and I hope you got justice. How wicked!
Sorry that happened to you. I dealt with childhood trauma as well.. mostly from being beaten by my step father and mother. It sticks with you daily
So sorry to you and everyone here who has been violated in this way. Evil is the problem. It has many faces. Sending love. ❤️🩹❤️
Seems that woman 👩🏻 is more than obsessive,if he doesn’t or didn’t cooperate with her then he is not going to come out of this in a good way 😢
agreed! I used to work at a crisis shelter which 99.9% of the callers- victims were female, however I did get a call one evening from an abused man! he was disabled and trapped and needed help! it happens y'all.. 😬.. the scary part is that men in that kind of situation don't usually reach out for help as much as women do.. but it is a very real thing!
I live about mins from Piegon Forge and Gatlinburg, they're cities located in The Great Smokey Mountains, the phone signal is extremely spotty in the mountains. Those cities will be packed with tourists right now because it's a popular vacation spot with lots of amusement parks (Dollywood, The Dixie Stampede, water parks, etc.), camping, rafting, and stuff like that. I'll go up tomorrow and put up flyers. Praying for their safe return. ❤
Thank you for bringing awareness to this case, G! The circumstances behind their disappearance does not sound promising! I am still hoping that they both are found safe! Excellent presentation, G!
🙏🙏🙏
I'm 99% sure one is a victim, and the other is a perpetrator .
This is where i live....near Pigeon Forge TN and we have been getting notifications about this case for a few days now. Ive been keeping my eyes open every time i go out. Praying for the family and praying for his safety and well-being
Bless you! 💓
@@skylergrey3507Yep. We’re right at the Smokey Mountains. There is cell service in pigeon Forge, Gatlinburg and most of the Smokey’s. Up towards the top of the mountain in the backroads there was a no cell service
The campgrounds in Cosby are spotty for call though..
It's an easy plate to remember thank goodness
I live right outside of Pigeon Forge in (Wears Valley). At first, I thought it could be a murder/suicide situation. I still think that makes the most sense. However, I get this odd feeling like (his) mother isn't telling the whole story. Like she's holding out some of the details, trying to play nice and not step on toes of (the female & her family). The (males) mothers side is the only side I've heard so far.
The family seems so genuine and caring. Being that they were high school sweethearts, and now 24 years old, she was obviously close to his family. Despite his family being scared and justifiably upset with her being the catalyst to this event, they want them back safely. I can not imagine how they are feeling. I’ve always said that having a missing loved one would be worse than a final outcome. The unknown is awful.
My co workers 16 year old daughter disappeared without a trace, 8 years ago. She was off work for 2 years and came back. She says she imagines her daughter being tortured every night but doesn't want to imagine her dead either. It would be the literal worst. I feel for chandlers mom 😢
She's a psycho. She did something to him I'm afraid.
Exactly, I don't know how she can control him without a gun.
Try to keep the faith hun!🙏 Let's start a Prayer chain around the USA for Chandler & Reagan's safe return!
I wish the media hadn't reported the phone pings. They always leak too much!.. perhaps if they're listening, might not have thought to turn phones off.. Be sure LE has tried looking at location thru Snapchat! (sometimes they don't think to turn that location off!)
:( i get what they're saying!.. he may be in a situation where he's having to go with the flow for now.. hoping to ease her fears of separation🙏
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Agree seriously does not sound good
So sorry for the parents of the great loss of their son.
Thank you Gisela for all you do ❤😢
I pray she hasn’t unalived him and herself as well! 😢🙏🏻 Thank you G for all of your hard work and for bringing us this case!
It turns out that you were correct -sadly
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I spoke with Aurora Kuhbander, the sister and she is hanging in there. I gave her some ideas to have the PD to send toll booths the BOLO and to see if stores around her have footage of her purchasing a burner phone. This is such a sad scary situation. I pray they find both Raegan and Chandler SAFE.
Are you friends with her?
Hi dear Gisela, I’m tuning in from Australia 🇦🇺. You are such an asset to the True Crime Community. I couldn’t imagine us not having you reporting on these hideous crimes. The saddest part of all this the community needs creator like. It’s where we can get the fact of these cases. In that process it lets us get a true inform view and understanding of the cases.
It has been 3 hour from you post on this case. I for one has started to ask God to intervene on this induction. I pray they will come back. I myself who has gone through a terrible case of DV, even though being a woman going through it, it’s very easy picking up signs of DV and who is causing the DV by words spoken. There is certain words victims will not say, with the fear not to triggering the situation. I have a get feeling this is a murder suicide. The reasons, I say this is because she has had a plan. But she has to build her courage to hurt herself. She know she is up for a kali sentence. And unless an interpreter is there with them he has no hope. I’ve been through this and if he gets through this, the recovery will be very hard to get through.
Let’s all pray for a miracle or for her to become so tied and exhausted he can escape.
Love you being here with us a Big Thank you.
This is my area.. this is the most bizarre case ever! Everyone first thought it wasn't true, thar his family was just over protective or they say he ran off with her and doesn't want his family to know but now everyone is genuinely concerned for both of their wellbeing as there has been zero communication with either of them. Super scary!
I feel sure she took that gun and made him get in the car. People should never go to a second location. Take your chances where you are at. Run and zig zag, because her intentions are to kill you anyway rather than see you with another woman. I don't think this is not going to end well, but I am still going to pray for a good outcome. She may take her own life since she has threatened before and now she knows she is out of options. God please bless this family and loved ones during their time of grief. Thank you for bringing this story to us.
Exactly. The chances of her firing at him in public would be significantly lower than if he obeyed, thinking he could buy some time or talk her down. No. If they are already waving a gun, ordering you into their car, there is probably no getting through to that person.
The part about not going with someone is so key. Refuse. Scream. Make a scene. Make yourself dead weight. You are significantly more likely to be killed if they can get you to a secondary location.
Once you get in the car your chances diminish a lot. Never get in the car as long as you don’t you have a fighting chance.
Now that both were found deceased, I'm wondering if she unalived him and then herself. I just found out they were found deceased, and didn't read the details, if they have them.
Wow so sad.
The update made me literally feel sick. To those who feel DV does not happen to men, open your eyes! My sorrow for his family is endless - they obviously loved them both. Just a horrible horrible situation, two young people just starting their lives. I am so so sorry.
Prayers for the family 😢
"I can't live without you ". "The relationship is over when I say it's over". " If I can't have you, no one can have you". If anyone says any one of these things to you, you are in a heap of trouble.😮💨
I’m on my way to pigeon forge for a little vacation right now so I’m glad I saw this so I can keep my eye out!
Excellent, I wish you a great vacation, and please do keep a lookout for their vehicle/them. 💗
Unfortunately, they have been found deceased. 😢
She Is On The Run!!! Prayers for both to be found soon, alive and safe! 🙏
She’s an abuser, and he reacted. They didn’t have a toxic relationship. She’s toxic.
Super annoying when someone encounters a toxic human it is a toxic relationship and feels more than one sided toxicity. Many times the participating victim/peacemaker is trying to navigate out =away from the toxic.
Exactly! She was a self-absorbed narcissist that couldn’t accept he wanted a life outside of the D.A. He was a handsome young man who sounds like an incredible person. She is so ugly inside and out. If you want to unalive yourself, fine. Don’t selfishly take others with you.
She looks scary too 😮very energy
NOTE: Sadly the fact this arrest was so close to the disappearance it a Big Scary Red Flag 🚩 prayers that they are found soon and safe! 🙏
I had a coworker that was suic...dl until I reported her to the boss. Suddenly she stopped the manipulation. She is not sui..dl anymore.
I'm so glad this channel is covering this, I just heard "2 firedighters found deceased" & have absolutely no idea what's happening or if it was a fire or anything
Yeah, this is where I live....and, trust me, NOTHING happens where I live. The circumstances of this disappearance are very odd indeed.
You live in Cocke county too? If so you are correct. NOTHING ever gets solved unless it falls in their laps and they have to do something and it's usually a cover up.
I live In cocke county as well
Sevier County here. Currently. Know the area very well tho.
@@slofootcrofoot same here .. I'm 20 minutes from Gatlinburg but was raised in cocke county
Sevier County here ❤
Gatlinburg is very high in the mountains. It’s a very popular tourist area, with very thick forest and isolated areas. God please be with this family and praying for Chandlers safe return.
Is Dolly wood there?
@@erikaechostearns3966yes, Dollywood is located in Piegon Forge ❤ I live about 30 mins from there.
@@erikaechostearns3966 Near there, but in Pigeon Forge.
Didnt Amy Day's Aunt Joy go to Pigeon Forge?? 😮
Thanks for reminding everyone that toxic comments won't help at this time. I hope there is a way she can get to find help and that everyone is safe. I haven't been to Gatlinburg in a long time but there are many isolated places to hide out there, cell phone coverage can be spotty especially in the hills. I think many males don't know the hand signal. This is a good time to teach your friends and family members.
What hand signal?!?
I doubt hes able to make a hand signal atp.
I also have not been in the Gatlinburg area in a long time but I agree that people have gone missing in the Smoky Mountains. Prayers for the families. 🙏🏻
@@teresathayn5170it is a signal that we can use to alert people quietly if we are being held against our will or in a DV situation. Gisela demonstrated it in the video. Hold your hand up as if to stay stop. Fold the thumb in then fold the fingers down over the thumb so it is now a fist.
@teresathayn5170 The hand signal is done to show onlookers if you are being held against your will. It is palm forward in stop position. Now leave four fingers up and thumb inward against the palm of hand. Then close the four fingers over the thumb if ever needed for signaling help.
That arrest, was a reality check the relationship was over. I watched the mom's interview and this girls mental state was off before the arrest. 5 ,6, 7 years together does not give her the right to act like a child at the age of 24...she has guilt tripped him numerous times to unalive herself if he left her and he has always tried to help her avoid doing that. His family loves her, but shes is selfish & manipulative. I hope he is okay , her as well but theres so many red flags atp
I don’t think these people care about their “right” to act a certain way. G said that too. But she also said that this woman was severely struggling with mental health…I don’t think that people struggling with mental health are super keen on behaving how they should behave
We only know one side. Why does HE own her car?
The police report from a year ago where the fire captian took her gun noted it was Chandler's "ex"!
They were living together, his credit may have been better
It sounds like she is tracking him either from his phone or she put a Apple tracker on his vehicle. Prayers that they both will be found safe and sound 🙏
Thank you for covering this case. I live 45 minutes from them and work in their town. I don’t know them but I feel terrified for their situation all the same. It’s strange that it’s been so long since the last publicly known sighting of the car or either of the people. Hard to believe if they are still on the move no one and no cameras have seen anything. The longer it goes without an update the more dread I feel. I pray they are safe.
Ditto, dread feeling
Thank You for covering this!
People keep asking why does he own her car, they were in a 7 year relationship. There are many reasons why he owns her car but the most obvious is she had bad credit and he financed it.
There is an absolutely heartbreaking press release update. 😢💔
So glad you're reporting on this. Thank You. So professional and compassionate.💯
My hope is he is riding around with her to make her comfortable and stable. I’m from GA and have been all up in those mountains throughout my life. Very beautiful and can be very remote. Cell service is not great at all when you get into those mountains. It’s one thing I always hated in case of an emergency or wanting/needing to look something up, even directions.
Sad to report that Chandler and Raegan were found deceased in Cocke County, TN, in or near Raegan's car. This was reported an hour ago, about 1:45 pst, So tragic and condolences to Chandler and Raegan's families.
You truly are the Queen of true crime.i LOVE your show
Your intro and music are the best and most recognisable of all the channels I watch.
Thank you!
Today is the last day on f June,which was also men’s mental health month. The world needs to take men in abusive relationships more seriously. Even a male firefighter might feel ridiculed for asking for help against a psychopath female. That’s where society needs to change.
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I commend his mother for speaking out and helping advance public awareness, when her thoughts were that she didn’t want to catastrophize the situation. Her heart knows these red flags are too much. She is doing the right thing here. I hope her son comes home safely ASAP. Why is it most DV aggressors threaten to unalive themselves to maintain control? This is gross and so textbook. Praying for Chandler, his sweet mama, and his entire family & network of friends.
They have been found here in Cocke county. Unfortunately they are both deceased. please keep the families in prayer.
God was really praying for a peaceful outcome. So sad man 🥺
Yes I was too.
This is terrifying. As a firefighter she’d show how to pick up an unconscious body.
22 miles is not far to drive if you live in a rural area. I hope they both are found safe.
I doubt if they are alive
That's so true it's not far.
Unfortunately they were both found deceased on Sunday afternoon. Deepest sympathy to all the families.
Where do you get your sources from?
Thinking of Chandler's mom and all his family. Sending y'all love
My parents live in pigeon Forge, I’ll pass this on to them and tell them to be on the lookout for the car or them ! Praying they are both found and safe!
I think she did something to him before the stop at the gas station. IMO He was forced into her car, there is no way he would just sit quiet in the car 7 hours away from home and not getting in touch with his family? Nahhh
The family read all the text's on his Apple watch.
Not one time did he say yes to meet her, he addament said no.
Take that she sent him a picture of her gun, he had her arrested days before AND he have had a date with another girl. Huge motive to hurt him.
He knew that going off with her, would be like entering the dragons den. I have no doubt that he was forced to go.6
@@skylergrey3507 why does he need to?
@@Smaugette Because that would be his last chance to get away. He sure didn't go to Tennessee volontary
@@Nope-NotToday they had a messed up relationship... I think he could have gone with her on his own volition.
@@skylergrey3507yeah. She isn't acting like there is anyone else in the car. Just a solo gal pumping gas.
I pump my gas when alone. But there's no way my husband would sit in the car and let me pump the gas. I'm thinking most men would get out. So the fact that he doesn't is scary to me. Maybe he was gone already and she just had his phone.
We have a friend that was abused by his ex-wife and wouldn't report it as he would've been fired from the sheriff's department. He moved out to the barn and drank a lot to deal with it and had black eye. He finally left her. She had issues.
Praying this couple is found soon!!! 🙏
*Why would he be fired for reporting that he was getting abused by his ex wife? So he can develop a drinking addiction and have a black eye and there’s nothing he can do about that?Why does he have to suffer?*
He drank a lot, but it was her that's abusive. Maybe she fought him off? Ever think about that?
@@mariatorres9789 taken out of context ma'am ☺️ re-read it.
But thanks for comment as it helps her channel 👌
@@kingroyal3304 exactly 💯 but sadly that's how they are if there is abuse in the home. That's why he never laid a hand on her where she would have had a chance to call.
@@GMAlisa Every time I've seen, where a drunk was living in a barn, instead of the house, it's because they're violent and abusive when they drink.
This is the thing about coercive control, no physical marks but just as dangerous.
Great information. Thank you for always keeping it respectful.
I’m in Ga my SIL is a firefighter so I’ve got him to share this out as well
This is going to happen more and more. I taught my children how to handle rejection. They learned at a very young age that they aren't going to get what they want. This woman is crazy! When I was young (a long time ago) we could tell by looking at someone if they were crazy, not anymore.
That’s funny you say that. I feel it’s true. Seems like 30 years ago you could spot the “weirdo” I’m a crowd. No longer the case. Not at all.
No you couldn’t. Why do you think they get away with it? They don’t look like monsters. They look like your neighbor, your grandpa, your teacher, your priest. Crazy looking doesn’t equal predator
Good for you random! Teaching kids how to handle emotions is not being done anymore! Therefore they just call it a crisis. It's sounds better on social media 😢
Thank you Gisela . Just watched. Prayers for the families that they come home safe. 🙏❤️
Just hearing about this G., it literally just happened, I'm praying for their safety ❤
Blue is so lovely on you G. You are such an amazing voice for victims and families. Facts (bullet points pls!) and compassion in such an intelligent presentation. Thank you for your hard work! 🐻 Patreon 🙌
Gisela, just for your information look up Great Smoky Mountains. They are a part pf the Appalachians which stretch from N Alabama to Canada. The Smokies are an unimaginably huge, rugged, ancient mountainous area!
Btw, I thank you for the heartfelt manner in which you cover these case. I’ll have these folks in my prayers
Great that you are featuring this on your channel. My heart breaks for this mother of Chandler 😢. Hopefully this case picks up traction fast. Will pray for his safe return quickly 🙏
I have shared the video on my social media. I live near Huntsville, Alabama but have family and friends who live near or have property in the Pigeon Forge area.
I’m the mom of a 21 year old young man. I can’t imagine what this family is going through. I’m definitely hoping they are found soon. Sending love.
Her behaviors are terrifying!!
Uhhh Yeah he was more than 20 miles away on a Date 🤷🏼♀️
He was Most likely trying to Keep the Peace and Reagan was Most Likely STALKING him!
Her being on Medication just Adds to the Problems within their relationship.
I'm Sure She Did in Fact have the Mindset of "IF I CAN'T HAVE YOU THEN NO BODY WILL".... Now she has a Criminal Record and thinks that She has Nothing to Loose 🤨
Either Way this Is Tragic for All Involved.
May they Both be Found Alive and Whom Ever is the Culprit of this Incident, May they Pay their Consequences in FULL 🙏🏾
It sounds like coercive control. I bet she became a firefighter in order to keep tabs on him at all times.
🙏 Prayers for both of their families... 🙏
This story sounds like it's going to have a horrible ending. The gas station surveillance video only shows her....😢
I feel like she has killed him and is on the run. Hope I'm wrong and he's ok and able to escape.
Thanks G for covering this!!
I am looking forward to you getting to 500k then 1m 🤗from Florida ☀️
Great Smokey Mountains very Large Dense Forest, Many Camp sites and Forestry Roads.
Thank you for bringing this to our attention. I hope they are both found safe.
Thank you for all you and your mods do!!🎉
He wasn't working a "later shift." It was clearly his off day. Firefighters work 24 hr shifts in that area of the country.
Like 7 or 8 in the morning, until 7 or 8 the next morning.
They were found unalive in cocke county today. I can't find much info- could you please update us on what you can find, G? 🙏🏼
Heartbreaking update. A good family lost their son. Both were found dead.
To his mom, our hearts break with you. ❤️🩹
❤❤ Good Evening! Thank you for doing this. I live in South Georgia
Thanks Gisela from Australia 🇦🇺. I always watch your podcasts I love them always so detailed great work 👌
I have seen so many videos about this and this woman… God bless her. I am so sorry for your loss ma’am. It’s so apparent the way she fiercely loved her son, and she tried to give the woman who murdered him the benefit of the doubt. May he rest in peace and beautiful wonderful mama find closure.
Did she tell him, "If I can't have you, no one else can."
Hi local here. Thank you for covering this. The gossip is she did something but no one really knows what yet. She's crazy. I hope hes found safe.
Why do people from other countries find it far to drive 7 hours? Most Americans consider it a day trip, a weekend getaway, etc.
Reportedly both were found deceased in Tennessee. No further details. RIP both and sincere condolences to the families. 😢
😢 NOTE: BREAKING!
Sad news to report. The two missing firefighters were found deceased in Cocke County, just east of Gatlinburg Tennessee. Authorities aren't releasing any details as of this moment but I'm sure they will soon. Not the outcome we was all hoping for. 😓😓
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Omgosh her manipulative texts about hurting herself or being in distress and needing him to come over gave me that nauseous feeling! I lived that many years ago and would go running to that person every time until I finally learned to stop. This is not good guys…. 😢
Thank you 🙏
Reply crew here! I love your blouse. So pretty! Thanks for covering G!🐻🐻🐻
I hope he is ok and can convince her to get psychological support so they both can move on without anyone getting hurt!!!
Replay crew. I really hope that they'll find them safe and sound. My heart goes out to both families
Thank you so much for covering ✌️💚
Sorry, this won’t end well.
There is cell service in pigeon Forge and gatlinburg. Places in the Smokey mountains have no service. Tennessee has automatic plate readers. If it is in the system it will flag if an officer is behind them
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure this out
Two lives wasted. She needed some counseling. We've all had our heart broken and think we can't cope. But, we do and life gets better. But not for these two. Prayers for the families. So heartbreaking.
Prayers for the families 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
She has a control issue as well as abandoment issue. No phone pings? they need to look in water places like lakes and streams. Sorry for the family of both.
*BIG Red Flag 🚩 To me that there is a large body of water near the gym, the last place he was seen!
Never date at work never
So so sad 😢condolences to the families terrifying for any mom praying for the families 🙏😭
22 miles is NOT far.
Many firefighters drive 30 mins -1 hr from their house to a job. (Some even further)
So glad u are covering this😢💔
I'm 25 and I think that when a couple breaks up the best thing 1 can wish is the other finds happiness ? If you truly love someone why wouldn't you want that for them ?
Because she's unstable, probably has a lot of unresolved mental health issues. It's hard for a healthy person sometimes to get to that "I wish you the best" place you're talking about. It takes time and space. This was far from a healthy relationship. Her threatening to hurt herself multiple times is very telling. In this situation they didn't have space because they worked at the same place. She knew he was done and when nothing worked to get him back she panicked and sprung into action.
The mental health excuse does not hold. Just because someone is off meds does not make them into kidnappers, stalkers and killers.
Once she was charged with a felony, shouldn't her gun have been taken away?
I truly feel sorry for Chandler. I also can't help feeling sorry foe Reagan that she lacks dignity so she could let go and move on. I would never insist to continue being someone who no longer wants me in their life. But then again I'm not Reagan. She must have needed psychological help time ago