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I can t believe that her as Maddies mother, sending Maddie to sleep in a bed with her adult boyfriend does not count as child neglect or child endangerment!! I,m outraged along with alot of others that at this time LE can,t charge her with anything!! I watched Vinnie last night, was part of our wonderful Grizzly Raid😊, but still find it shocking that no arrests for Jen Soto. Thank you for all you do and your hard work G for us Grizzlies, we really appreciate you❤.
She is so calm and trying to answer irrelevant questions with simple details and she’s not hysterical. Any normal mom would be freaking out saying what are all these questions for my daughter is out there!!!
Right. Then she tried to say she was overly protective at first and wouldn’t even trust her own father sleeping with Maddie but somehow Stefan earned that trust?!? That weirdo? I think she loaned out Maddie for money. I sadly do.
I'm thankful for those that say they can't wrap their head around this! God forbid, it was a normal thing to do 😢. She is one strange, stupid, selfish woman!
I think all of the meds Jenn was on totally clouded her judgment and intuition. She still should have had common sense though. I’m not giving her a pass, but people over medicate themselves too easily.
The Police haven't said anything about Charges or No charges, so untill they officially press conference it I'm keeping hope she will be charged eventually imo...Lets hope hey.
I think they'll use her to pin SS and then charge her. It would be incredible if her atty would allow her to proceed with helping prosecution without an immunity agreement. But doesn't seem like there is one.
You have a deceased child in your home and your dog is losing its mind but you don’t care. You don’t go to her 13th bd, you send her away with a predator and go to sleep in your own bedroom with a king size bed, you don’t care to say good morning to her the next morning. BS, BS and more BS! 🤬 She was so exhausted… WTH!!!!
Exactly ... like I found it weird that she didn't even greet her daughter before she goes to school.. especially after a birthday.. like "hey sweetie good morning. Happy Birthday again. See you later after school.. love you bye." like was she ever a caring mother!??? uhhh
She didn’t even provide a bedroom for her child, but a triple locked bedroom for a guy who doesn’t even live there anymore (and who was dating someone else). Disgusting.
Even worse when he went out in the middle of the night in her car pretending to look for her she said she fell asleep what parent falls asleep when her child has just gone missing and out somewhere in the night! I hope the police don’t drop the ball on this one she needs life sentence asap!
I agree. The fact that she lied several times about the last time she saw or talked to Maddie, I have a feeling that Maddie was already dead when she got home on Sunday night.
Did you notice she said when she got there Stephan made sure Maddie took her night meds to knock her out completely, so he can record his kiddie porn, this time she woke up...they both did this
Her voice is monotone. No sorrow, nothing. If I hear her say "i'mmm gonna say" one more time ugh. "In the arm's of the Loving Angel's Beautiful little Maddie" Your Light will never go out. From Australia 🙏🕯🧸🌻💚💜👮♂️👮♀️🚓🚔
That constant repeated saying is also driving me crazy too. Im going to say! Is getting on my nerves. And the just joking phrase, she uses in the wrong context.
You can just tell she knew what was going on by how she rationalizes her answers about his behavior. This isnt the interview of a woman whose daughter is missing. This is a woman trying to defend herself and her boyfriend.
I’m just finding this channel. I love your videos. Very detailed and easy to follow. I am binge watching all the Maddie stuff now. I am outraged by the fact that this so called mother is not in jail! Imo she was in on all the abuse. Thanks for the coverage on this. Very well done ❤
The laws have to change! Any adult who doesn’t call the police to get a child help should be arrested for being complicit! The 2 roommates had to know Stephan was sleeping with Maddie!😢
Why would a boyfriend who doesn't live there anymore and who you have not seen but 3 times since december need to sleep with your daughter instead of you.
If parents can be charged for their child shooting up a school, Jenn should be charged for making it so easy for Maddie to endure so much for so many years and ultimately resulting in her death.
Jenn is on a lot of psych meds. She talked about them in her Instagram before Maddie went missing. A lot of side effects that blunt your affect, mood and actual feelings.
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@@thehattersmadness1957 DON'T make excuses for this sicko "mother." Psych meds or not, is NOT the issue here. She HANDED her 13 year old daughter to a monster, knowing what he was doing when SHE ALLOWED Sterns and her daughter to sleep together multiple times. Then he kills her. To say the least, she's a POS.
@@thehattersmadness1957I suspect that she and her ghoul boyfriend used Maddie’s diagnostics that she pushed on her child to get their grubby mitts ipn drugs. This all reminds me of Letecia Stauch and her manic talking that I always suspected was vyvanse influenced. Jenn and Stephan I think (opinion but supported with stuff they say) we’re sharing and abusing Xanax and adderall
I lost my son at the age of 9 inside of a Target for 5 minutes and I FREAKED OUT!!!! This woman sounds like she’s waiting for her daughter at the airport returning from a trip or something… I would be out of my ever loving mind !!!!!
For someone who thinks their daughter was taken, she has a surprisingly cheerful attitude. Most mornings I can’t even have a proper conversation without my caffeine fix. My dog escaped my backyard for 10 minutes and I was a wreck. I don’t know how she’s functioning! I would be imagining all the worst possible things! And she’s talking about the subway?
💯 it’s unreal. And no amount of sedatives can explain the light hearted laughter and joking with the detective. Especially after saying she thought she had been taken.
@@youtubing2334 right, I understand that some people can dissociate but not like this. Usually it’s a numb feeling, not this lighthearted conversation.
I slept on the couch in the living room for 2 yrs so my daughter had her own room. I am suspicious of EVERY person that comes in contact with them. I dont give a damn about being called paranoid or crazy. My childrens safety is more important than ppls feelings . Period
If she didn’t always drive Maddie and she walked sometimes, why would the mom suddenly need “help”? It’s a story and a bad one. So she needed a good night sleep and claims she needed to take her meds… as if she didn’t take the meds daily? Did she take an additional med for sleeping or anxiety that caused deep sleep? She woke up for the dog leash so she wasn’t in a deep sleep. It makes no sense. If there’s a master bedroom, why would your ex boyfriend go up to the extra bedroom with your daughter? Why wouldn’t he be in the master with her or the living room? Why did Maddie have a makeshift bedroom in the living room but there was bedroom #4? I wonder if the roommates heard or noticed anything. When the detective asked for the roommates contact info, it’s when her “anxiety” peaked…. She didn’t flinch when the other detective shared she was with sex crimes….. if my child were missing and suddenly homicide, child sex crime detectives were speaking with me.. I would be so scared and would have a million questions and she just said ok. She was so tired and didn’t want McDonald’s and was sleeping in the car but got dropped off super early for school to walk the rest of the way? Makes no sense. And the mom also mentioned she went to pick her up and usually waits around about an hour for school dismissal… why? Seems so strange if Maddie sometimes walks. I find it strange that the bedrooms doors are numbered as well mixed with the tripod. I can’t help but think some horrible disgusting things happened in that room and then it comes back to how didn’t the mom and roommates know?
That stood out to me as being completely unreasonable! My daughter is 12 and can do anything I can do! She doesn't need anyone to make sure she showers and gets ready for bed! They're trying to paint Madeline as unable to function without them. Very weird.
THIS!! My thoughts exactly!!! I have 4 kids and even when they were all toddlers I did it without any help! Now help you’ve been nice when I was getting no sleep because I had an infant & three under 6 but I still didn’t ask for help! Not saying there’s anything wrong with needing or asking for help BUT you ask for help from your mom, your grandma, your aunt, or another HIGHLY trusted adult. Not an EX BOYFRIEND that you barely see!! It’s not adding up! It’s a terrible lie!! Also she did NOT need help with a 13yr old!!!! Maddie was THIRTEEN! Plenty old enough to dress & feed herself! The only way you’d need help with a 13yr old is if they were mentally or physically disabled. Maddie was neither! She didn’t require assistance in the shower or in bed! Also Jenn had family close by! Her mother actually kept Maddie most of the week anyway! Why not ask her mom for help ??? See could’ve rode the bus to school on days mom was “too tired”. Nothing about this story or situation makes any sense!!!
@redwoodtrail all valid points, but the last room 4 does have a plausible explanation. They live near Disney and sometimes rent those rooms to people going there on vacation. The tripod and lube though... pretty obvious what that's for.
@@tll224There is a certain IQ level where people basically seem capable because they can mirror others for appropriateness, learn to not cause conflict and are basically happy. They are the people that don't overthink things, barely think it through the first time. They occasionally blow and can't control anger when things confuse them. It's right on the borderline of mild intellectual disability. I can see this being mistaken for depression and a host of other things by a bad family Dr. or disinterested shrink. Then they just pile on the meds. I had therapy clients like this that I always struggled with bc I thought they were capable of improving the cognitive/behavioral link. They weren't. So in seriousness-how unintelligent and medicated is she? Secondly, what is her SA history? If everyone from Grandma to birth dad are abusers/victims she would have zero idea what is normal or appropriate. As in maybe she should not have had full custody of Madeline.
I've watched this a month ago. But I kept it up to watch again later. Then more and different cases come up. We are asked what stands out to you. I doubt after a month my thoughts matter. But here's what stands out. I've had to do a lot of bloodwork due to my own health issues. They always ask me to fast 12 hours before blood is drawn. I even had an argument with my doctors appt. setter. I have vampire hours. I go to bed at 4am and wake up at noon. I don't get home from work until 10-11p. He insisted a 10am appt. Not possible. His worry was that any later and I would have breakfast or coffee. You can't even drink a soda pop or coffee before bloodwork. What I'm trying to say is her timeline has to be pinpoint precise. Which I'm not sure she is capable of doing. If she gets home from work, then eats dinner to take meds. She would have had to eat/drink no later than 10 pm to make her 10am fasting/bloodwork appointment. Am I the only one who noticed this? She doesn't even mention fasting. It's not a concern. No one has asked her what her bloodwork was needed for. Doctors don't ask for bloodwork just for the hell of it. They are trying to find out what is wrong. For me it was to see what is wrong with my lungs. I'm not a doctor and avoid them when possible. But one would think that when doing bloodwork they are trying to find out about a specific complaint the patient is having. Whether it be diabetes, lung issues, perhaps even mental issues. Since Jenn is so apt to tell us what meds she takes and what they are for. Even telling us about PTSD, but was that self diagnosed? Did she go doctor shopping to find a doctor who writes scripts like candy? Regards to finance, she sounds like a person looking for an excuse not to work. To file for disability, you have to jump through an awful lot of hoops and do a series of tests to prove you are not capable of working. It makes me wonder if she ate her sandwich and took meds after the fasting period to throw the bloodwork test off. On purpose. If one has the next two days off. Your broke and on a budget. Dependent on disability checks. Only people you will see is the bloodwork people and family. Who cares if you are having symptoms from missing your meds on Saturday. Acting crazy. Family is used to it. According to Yolanda, via the Jenn blogs, Yolanda never believed Jenn would amount to anything anyway. This is where I get angry. No one in my eyes is off the hook for failing this angel who just turned 13. It's hard enough to turn 13 without all these people around her failing her. But I am also not blaming police for diving into these questions because police aren't trained to ask the right questions involving medical issues. But the main question is...What was the bloodwork needed for?
She is so lazy can't even say bye to her daughter in the morning unless she already knew she was not alive that morning....I wonder if authorities hear their interviews afterwards...🤔
I can’t believe she hasn’t been charged with interfering in an active case, lying to a police officer, neglect of a child at the very least until they can further investigate and possibly up the charges.
@eternity7477 Jenn says.. "I sent them upstairs" she is evil & it wouldn't be far fetched to speculate that she made $$$ from exploiting & providing her daughter as the means to make that $.
@@christoph1596because she failed to protect her child, she's misleading police, she allowed a grown as man to sleep in a tiny bed with a gun, lotion and a tripod while she sprawled out in her king sized bed. She neglect that child severely how can you not see that
A thirteen year old girl doesn’t need a grown man to help her take a shower, brush her teeth, get dressed, etc. And certainly doesn’t need a grown man sleeping in the same bed with her. That is straight up inappropriate and sexually unacceptable. Thats abuse. What kind of mom needs help walking her dog, getting a healthy 13 year old ready for school. Thats laziness on her part. This murder wouldn’t have happened if she didn’t have him staying at her house.
No. She knew dad's are not supposed to hurt kids. Poor Maddie was SA by that monster for years. How could the mom not know? I think she knows. I think she did everything stephan wanted.
JS says that she, i.e. MS came back with lots of presents and was super happy. Have the gift bags been seen, or was there any sign of them anywhere in the house? Her story feels like she edited it to suit her.
She’s a monster. The police are building their case on her. Stating that they have no charges on her at this time may be a tactic to smoke out additional evidence and/or witnesses.
I don't understand How can you have a guest room For when this damn demon shows up in your house but you don't have a bedroom for Maddie. No doubt in my mind is she prioritized Stefan Stern's first in her own daughter
In the interview with the female detective from the Orange County Sheriff's Department, Jenn still said 'we.' (It's after the hour point in this video.)
Sleeping as a threesom ☹️ They seemed to think this was normal. Stefan got a new girlfriend and told her about sleeping with Maddie. Didn't think anything odd about it. She got shot of him.
I don't believe he was her boyfriend, I believe she was pimping her child out to him for money.......... She is sicker than he is, and I don't believe he was the first person she sold her daughter to either. That child was tortured to death by those monsters, and she should be locked up as well.
New Sub. Enjoying your get to it vidoes, thank you. Notice Jen says Stephen calls her while out? How if he forgot his phone at her place. Did police ever take Jens phone? If true should be a call from unknown number at that time or from his phone to Jens phone. Would prove more lies if there is no incoming call, or incoming call either way. Jen claimed Stephen called her. And if true for what, police never asked what he wanted or said when he called.
My 8 yr old son likes to fall asleep in the bed with his dad and I but we put him in his bed as soon as he's asleep. The situation that went on with them was sick and should've never happened. Jenn clearly shouldn't have had custody of Maddie.
Sometimes when my kids are sick they want to sleep in our bed. My husband, their father will sleep somewhere else. Also by 8 my daughter preferred her own bed.
Guaranteed due to the amount of pictures and videos he had of her, they were being sold as csam material, and the mom was definitely getting a cut. You don't have 7000 images and videos just for yourself. She sold her daughter.
Jenn seems like she’s enjoying small talk with the detective, not at all concerned that her daughter is missing. She is guilty and needs to be held accountable!
Kids don’t get bipolar (stepha’s mom stated this about MS) at 13…they are going through puberty and are dealing with emotions (and in MS’s case MUCH MORE)…they also shouldn’t be diagnosed with HDAD at 6 - she’s a little girl! What a cop out for parenting - “she’s very forgetful”. Ridiculous.
Do you get the feeling that she is so bored with all the questioning and also she stalls to make sure she doesn't forget her lies. I have heard this testimony so many times and she is not bothered or upset
I picked my 24 year old sister up from a party last night, busy in the door guns a blazing (not Literaly) Just because she passed out and was in the bed with a guy she went to highschool with. I don’t care if he ‘knew her since highschool’ You can’t trust anyone. I can’t even imagine having a child and letting a random man be alone with them in the same house, nvm the same bed. Hell to the no.
Bish if you had anxiety you would have been too nervous to send your baby to bed with a monster. She hasn’t even panicked yet for her daughter missing.
Not defending her BUT anxiety doesn’t look the same for everyone. Some people show anxiety externally. Some people can be having terrible anxiety and you’d never know it unless you knew them personally. My son is that way. Everything happens inside.
@@Haveaniceday11118 she probably didn’t get anxiety from sending her daughter to bed with that monster; that was normal for her. She has anxiety because she knows what really happened.
@@brittanysampson1898 I wonder if she was mixing true warning signals from her emotional perception and anxiety with no external reason. Anyway, I always get the impression that «anxiety» in her words is too vague to have real meaning.
Okay, I'm 1 hr in. I am amazed by the great work by the police officer to gain Jennifer Soto's confidence. You can hear in Jennifer's voice that she is flattered by the law officer's "attention" and really opens up and reveals much more than she realizes. Jennifer reveals how self absorbed she is, familiar with playing the victim and her narcissism is fierce. Her lack of concern about where her daughter is at the given moment is astounding. As a single mother of two daughters, if my daughter or daughters were missing, I would be out of my mind frantic and agonized, EVERY MOMENT. Jenn Soto is driving around with a police officer, laughing and giggling while she tells him the story of her life. It is beyond sickening.
Maddie didn’t come back from her party on Sunday “super happy”, in fact she was disappointed more of her friends didn’t show up and upset that her mom stiffed her a present. She also said she didn’t want to go home.
So Maddie got herself off to school every morning. Why was it necessary to his help now? She has also stated that Maddie wasn't capable of getting herself home by herself. She's lying!
The mother is hesitant when asked about anything regarding Stephan but there are some parts clearly rehearsed! When he called me at 10:18?? She can’t remember things yet knows his exact comings and goings that morning. She doesn’t even have her daughter come in say goodbye, I’m going to school or tell her to have a good day? She knew … he probably told her he gave her “too much” medicine and overdosed.
The nonchalant tone of this conversation between these two people has completely damaged my perception of humanity!! They behave like this discussion is no more important than the "price of tea in China "! I've lost faith in the human race!!!!
🚩 Jenn not sure how many times he's visited since they split up in Dec. 🚩Jenn wasn't sure if SS arrived on Saturday or Sunday - it was only a few days before! 🚩She was very tired so went to sleep in the master bedroom's king size bed while sending MS and SS (ex bf) to sleep together in a double bed upstairs. 🚩You didn't get up in the morning, make breakfast for your daughter. 🚩MS was embarrassed by SS vehicle but I thought SS was driving his dad's car. 🚩No emotions, no tears, no ugly crying, no concern for daughter's well being! 🚩No mention of MS's asthma 🚩Heard voices in the house but couldn't distinguish her daughter's voice. 🚩No questions about why police from sex/violence team are involved. No questions about why all the questions about SS 🚩Doesn't question why SS went out in the early hours after MS was reported missing! 🚩Jenn - "I'm gonna say" - what's with the guess work. 🚩Her overall demeanour during interview - I wouldn't be chatting about moving/living in New York Too many 🚩's
Guest bedroom? While your daughter has no privacy in the living room? Why not let your daughter have her own room with her own lock and let any guest stay in the makeshift bedroom?! She never protected her daughter she basically pumped her poor kid out. She was a terrible mother!!
Giving Maddie that room with the multi locking door and giving sterns the couch could have saved Maddie’s life - also saved her from the horrific abuse
@Vlaloca777 tbh, i think that make shift bedroom she said was Maddie's,that was "set up" in the corner of the living room, was just THAT...A SET UP!! Incase, they became suspect. Or if the Police, DCFS, or CPS happened to stop by for a wellness check. They could tell her to say it was her room, because they KNEW, she wouldn't ever go against what they said, in fear of, she may get into more trouble, or even worse..... This just sickening me!!!
@32:47 JS states “ her most recent dirty laundry is on my bathroom floor and we have walked around it, and not touched it” If Jen did not see Maddie in the morning, how did Maddie’s bed wear end up on Jen’s bathroom floor? I thought Jen’s bathroom was off her bedroom.
Even at funerals, there is the relief of being able to laugh at old memories and funny situations that occur in the awkwardness of grief. They tend to be few and far between, however. The normal tone of voice and lack of emotion in between laughing at a kid's funny quirks is surprising and concerning.
WTF? She is 13 and they sleep together? That's creepy as.... Oh, but she needs to really sleep so she leaves her daughter and bf to sleep together? Are you kidding? This lady needs to be locked up. No way she didn't suspect something at the least but more likely knew something. Who in their right mind allows their daughter to sleep in bed with their bf? If it were me as the bf, I would feel extremely uncomfortable with that arrangement and say I'll sleep on the couch. The fact he isn't objecting should have been a red flag.
He told a woman he was dating at some point that he would go to Jenn's, after they broke up, solely so sleep with Maddie. And that he had woken up with a hard on before. Wtaf?! If he was so comfortable telling that woman that it makes me wonder what he told Jenn or what she knew.
My daughter is now 23 and her and her dad (my hubby) have a phenomenal relationship..and both my daughter and son were bad sleepers practically from birth and my husband and I were shifts workers I would work 3 nights as a nurse so those 3 nights my hubby was home with both kids by themselves and the other 4 nights it was the four of us in bed but once they turned 10 they were told they needed to be in own room, as we knew no way was it appropriate for my hubby to be sleeping with a young girl or me to be sleeping with a young boy..so for a mother to encourage her child to sleep with her boyfriend at 13 disgusts me. Also I’m a mental health worker working as a nurse in an youth and adolescent inpatient mental health unit and if we heard of this from one of our patients we would not allow patient home with the family until we found out info and assessed situation. This poor girl had no chance.. ❤
Maddie was not embarrassed of Stern's car..she was embarrassed of her abuser...and that is probably 😢why she wld asked to be dropped far from school .. 🤔
And yet he moved away and didn’t live with them so he hadn’t been helping for how long? Why this night did he come back and this happen? She claims she needed a good night sleep and mentioned her medication… wouldn’t she take her medication daily and it not be a big deal this evening unless she was taking more than prescribed or something out of the norm like a sleeping pill? But Maddie was 13 and it sounds like she often walked to and from school… why did she suddenly need the help and ride this morning? Also what is the deal with the birthday party? What kind of mother doesn’t attend her daughter’s bday party? She excused it because she had work but why not schedule the party on an off day? There’s so much that just didn’t make sense. Maddie was so tired and changed the McDonald’s plans because she was too tired then why leave that early and get to school so early? Why not stay at home and leave closer to school time? Because it’s all a lie and a bad one. And the family made the posters and she seemed annoyed with the media contacting her…. She said there’s not much to say.. hello!??? Keep your daughter’s name and photo in the media. It’s hard for guilty people to portray their idea of innocence… it’s come off way too nonchalant. They forget to show the worry and fear emotions they should be showing. She also tried to minimize her lack of search efforts by stating they didn’t want to be in the way… and they looked the only place they knew. Also, she praised the cops for the work they were doing.
@@redwoodtrail awesome awesome points....i feel the police is lurking trying to figure it all....yep she is NOT portraying a concerned momma AT all!!! I remember my frantic when our 11 year old daughters bus was late and she had not arrived home! I was in a panic fast!!!
This cop is actually a great interviewer. He’s so at ease while maintaining the cadence of everything. Reasking certain questions. Gaining so much information while not letting on that thjs is a legit interrogation.
Ok for me the thing I picked up on was that the reason Maddie and stefan were sent upstairs to room four was so that jenn could have a good nights sleep for work right?? Then later she says when she wasn't there when she went to pick her up 'maybe I forgot to tell her that I was picking her up today coz I didn't have to work that day'!!!
23:00 She asks if the cops will take her phone forever and cop responds that he hopes to give it back to Madeline. Interesting how mom sees an end but the cop that doesn’t know anything fully expects to return the phone to the missing person. Oooo! I could just 👋 her. How spry she is while her dead child is rotting in the Florida sun, yuck!
As a Mum of 4 adult children and 5 grandchildren I can’t comprehend her lack of care. Who lets their young daughter sleep in the same bed as her bf and where’s the desperation ?. I wouldn’t be able to speak I’d be so distraught . No mummy instinct it’s shocking .
I think Jenn’s choice of wording when talking about Maddie not being at school is very odd. She kept saying “she never made it” and she said the friend said “she never made it” Interesting choice of wording, in my opinion. “She never made it” sounds like a phrase that they may have coined when talking about their “story” for the police, etc. 🤔
When discussing the Officer taking Madeleines phone, Jennifer says “Will you take it forever?” Why would she think he would keep it forever if she thinks Madeline may just be missing?
I’m not coming to her rescue because she is a POS and 💯💯💯 guilty but she’s likely over medicated with psych meds. It can make you very flat and hard to express emotions.
I listen to so many of these tapes of Jen during the interviews. There was not one time, not one! That she sobbed or put her head down and cried her tears were rolling down her cheeks. Not that sad over the loss of her daughter. This is a mother that had something to do with it.
I sadly agree. I even suspect her bff Stephan might have told her he “accidentally” killed M, or that he “just found her dead, help or they’ll blame me”…something like that. It is unfathomable that she isn’t crying or just totally broken down. She chatters, laughs here and there. There’s something sorely missing in this woman. Empathy, compassion and Love for her child is nowhere to be found. It’s just me, me, me, I, me, I and Stephan. She barely says Madeline’s name.
@@Veruska75 Well said. It is amazing to watch this play out and very hard to realize that there are people amongst us like this and the fact that they have children is sad. Maddie cried but no one heard her. 🙏🏻 God bless little Maddie and children like her.
Exactly I’d be inconsolable, running a round like a mad woman whether it’s my child missing or my nephews/nieces. It’s like when your child disappears for a moment in the grocery store and you begin to panic. Her child is literally missing and unbeknownst to her in that moment she - could be dead, could have been trafficked, could be held hostage somewhere. How is she so calm?!?!?
Jen’s “area” in the house is a mess. Stuff everywhere, yet she had the nerve to complain to the police that Maddie didn’t pick up after herself? She is a child, you are supposed to lead by example.
I know! Maddie should have had that room with 3 locks on the door (to keep him OUT) and sterns could have slept on the couch. Priorities are messed up in that home.
Right! And when they asked if he was home when she came back from her blood work appt, and she had to think hard before saying “I’m gonna say yes”. You don’t remember YESTERDAY, the day your daughter went missing??? Every detail would be seared into my mind for eternity. How do you not remember coming home to your boyfriend or to an empty house 24 hours ago? Infuriating
Absolutely NO emotion whatsoever.....even if she did know about all that happened on that night and morning you'd think she could muster something....she showed more emotion while rubbing that animals shoulder while he mustered fake tears..... but then i suppose she willingly offered Madie up as a sacrifice so she could keep a guy around 😢
I can’t believe she hasn’t been seen on any interview shedding one tear. I would be and absolute basket case crying my eyeballs out. Not sure I would even be able without my voice cracking and a breakdown.
All the red flags and the lack of concern for her daughter, who's "very forgetful" and missing. Jenn refers to Madeline in past tense when describing the relationship between Stephan and Madeline and at other times during this interview. She said Madeline would move so much she would end up on top of her by morning, but sends her 13-year-old daughter upstairs with her bf to a double bed while she slept on her king sized bed with the dog. That is so disturbing. When you showed the picture of that bed and it's only a little bigger than a single bed, it just rubbed me the wrong way. Jenn has changed her story from what she said on the news to what she's telling this detective. She seems more concerned about Stephan and his poor elderly parents than her own daughter. Why would Jenn sit at the school for 1 hour before school gets out, then never goes inside to see what's holding her daughter up. She just pulls away after 10 minutes. I think she knew Madeline was "gone." Not one time does Jenn ask, "Why are you asking so many questions about Stephan?" It was heartbreaking to see the note in Madeline's notebook describing what the "trauma" she's suffered is causing her. How a mother doesn't notice those behaviors as an issue is downright neglectful? There's so much we could discuss, but I thought the cause of death for Madeline was strangulation? That's what Court tv released a while back. Thank you so much for sharing and everything you do Gisela for all your subs. ❤❤
There was evidence, we were told, that Madeline had been sexually abused for quite some time. And evidence of recent sexual abuse. No way this “mother” didn’t know. Sending your 13 year old up to sleep with your ex-boyfriend on the regular?? That’s very freakin far from normal.
there has not been an official cause of death released nor a time. the corner noted with corcern the broken thyoibone ( (sp) which shows strangulation but it is not listed as cause. Cororner also observed some blunt force trauma. There has been a massive documents and photos release recently and FOIA applies to all of that's been released. Content creators and True Crime streamers have the investigation results and discovery through their FOIA requests. The LE and other agencies are certainly been doing their utmost for Maddie. They have to be feeling her horrible pain that she was forced to live with every day. One saving grace for Maddie is that people knew her to possess a higher beyond her years maturity despite her young age.
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I can t believe that her as Maddies mother, sending Maddie to sleep in a bed with her adult boyfriend does not count as child neglect or child endangerment!! I,m outraged along with alot of others that at this time LE can,t charge her with anything!! I watched Vinnie last night, was part of our wonderful Grizzly Raid😊, but still find it shocking that no arrests for Jen Soto. Thank you for all you do and your hard work G for us Grizzlies, we really appreciate you❤.
Tick tick tick 👹⏳️🌋
@@GrizzlyTrueCrime I commented too early, Jen lying about last seeing Maddie, i honestly think it was the Wednesday..Thankyou for everything G..
She is so calm and trying to answer irrelevant questions with simple details and she’s not hysterical. Any normal mom would be freaking out saying what are all these questions for my daughter is out there!!!
The fact she has wrote her timeline down 😮truth doesn’t change 11:27 few concerning changes from the news channel’s interviews. R.I.P Madeline 💚
She shows no empathy or concern about Maddie's well being! Justice for Madeline!
He's not supposed to react, it may shut her down.
@@Ieezeca Read the comment again.
I still can not wrap my head around how this woman thought it was ok to let a man sleep in the same bed as her daughter. It's so disturbing
Right. Then she tried to say she was overly protective at first and wouldn’t even trust her own father sleeping with Maddie but somehow Stefan earned that trust?!? That weirdo? I think she loaned out Maddie for money. I sadly do.
Mom’s full of bs
I'm thankful for those that say they can't wrap their head around this! God forbid, it was a normal thing to do 😢. She is one strange, stupid, selfish woman!
I think all of the meds Jenn was on totally clouded her judgment and intuition. She still should have had common sense though. I’m not giving her a pass, but people over medicate themselves too easily.
@@SAMMIHODGES-o3o
The meds thing...
I wonder since S was "getting her ready for bed" is he in charge of medication for both Maddie & Jen?
I'm furious that police are not charging her. Maddie won't get full justice unless both jenn and stephan are held accountable
The Police haven't said anything about Charges or No charges, so untill they officially press conference it I'm keeping hope she will be charged eventually imo...Lets hope hey.
I agree with Joanne below…. It’s very early to be screaming about lack of charges. This woman has a whole hella reckoning coming her way.
Madeline gave Stephan that flat tire .. her spirit did. She is getting justice.
@@joannanieuwburg9 Vinnie politan reported yesterday that the official word is there will be no charges against Jen Soto
I think they'll use her to pin SS and then charge her.
It would be incredible if her atty would allow her to proceed with helping prosecution without an immunity agreement. But doesn't seem like there is one.
You have a deceased child in your home and your dog is losing its mind but you don’t care. You don’t go to her 13th bd, you send her away with a predator and go to sleep in your own bedroom with a king size bed, you don’t care to say good morning to her the next morning. BS, BS and more BS! 🤬 She was so exhausted… WTH!!!!
Exactly ... like I found it weird that she didn't even greet her daughter before she goes to school.. especially after a birthday.. like "hey sweetie good morning. Happy Birthday again. See you later after school.. love you bye." like was she ever a caring mother!??? uhhh
I wish I can have 5 minutes with this so called mother 😡 she sent poor Maddie to her death 😢.
She didn’t even provide a bedroom for her child, but a triple locked bedroom for a guy who doesn’t even live there anymore (and who was dating someone else). Disgusting.
From her 10 hour a week job!
Even worse when he went out in the middle of the night in her car pretending to look for her she said she fell asleep what parent falls asleep when her child has just gone missing and out somewhere in the night! I hope the police don’t drop the ball on this one she needs life sentence asap!
She sure tip toes her answers. She sent that child to her death the night before. Unbelievable there is no charges on this wretch of a mother.
Yes she did send her to her death, I believe she knew what was going on and Maddie had threatened to tell.
I agree. The fact that she lied several times about the last time she saw or talked to Maddie, I have a feeling that Maddie was already dead when she got home on Sunday night.
Did you notice she said when she got there Stephan made sure Maddie took her night meds to knock her out completely, so he can record his kiddie porn, this time she woke up...they both did this
Yes! She takes wayyyy too long to answer. I would be talking so fast to try and find my daughter as quickly as possible
Listening to her interview gives me vibes from “The West Case” parents interview on Orin and Orson 😞
Her voice is monotone. No sorrow, nothing. If I hear her say "i'mmm gonna say" one more time ugh.
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That constant repeated saying is also driving me crazy too. Im going to say! Is getting on my nerves. And the just joking phrase, she uses in the wrong context.
she repulses me
You can just tell she knew what was going on by how she rationalizes her answers about his behavior. This isnt the interview of a woman whose daughter is missing. This is a woman trying to defend herself and her boyfriend.
Totally!
when women put their boyfriend before their own children.
Nailed it!
Did she ever call him her boyfriend?
@ladyhawk5653 oh that's a good point. I don't know if I heard her refer to him as such.
The detective is very professional while seeming compassionate and non-judgemental. I think that is an asset to the investigation.
Absolutely!
All the detectives I have seen/ heard in the interviews have been terrific
why didn't the cop ask her why they supposedly dropped Maddie off at school AN HOUR AND A HALF before school starts??????
I pray that Jennifer goes to jail forever
I’m just finding this channel. I love your videos. Very detailed and easy to follow. I am binge watching all the Maddie stuff now. I am outraged by the fact that this so called mother is not in jail! Imo she was in on all the abuse. Thanks for the coverage on this. Very well done ❤
Arrest this Monster 👺!
100%
I'm sorry, but there were also 2 other adult women in that house who just remained oblivious?? Come on. They failed that little girl too.
Exactly 💯 🤬
The laws have to change! Any adult who doesn’t call the police to get a child help should be arrested for being complicit! The 2 roommates had to know Stephan was sleeping with Maddie!😢
That's quite unfair to assume guilt in reference to the roommates. They said they didn't even know SS was there.
and not only a behind a locked door but 2 EXTRA locks on the door… sick!
@@beanj580Ever?
Why would a boyfriend who doesn't live there anymore and who you have not seen but 3 times since december need to sleep with your daughter instead of you.
If parents can be charged for their child shooting up a school, Jenn should be charged for making it so easy for Maddie to endure so much for so many years and ultimately resulting in her death.
@@AdrianaBLB very good point
This is the most calmest mother I have ever heard when their own child is missing 🤦🏽♀️ WTH 😡😡
Jenn is on a lot of psych meds. She talked about them in her Instagram before Maddie went missing. A lot of side effects that blunt your affect, mood and actual feelings.
@@thehattersmadness1957 DON'T make excuses for this sicko "mother." Psych meds or not, is NOT the issue here. She HANDED her 13 year old daughter to a monster, knowing what he was doing when SHE ALLOWED Sterns and her daughter to sleep together multiple times. Then he kills her. To say the least, she's a POS.
La-di-da attitude it's sickening
@@thehattersmadness1957I suspect that she and her ghoul boyfriend used Maddie’s diagnostics that she pushed on her child to get their grubby mitts ipn drugs. This all reminds me of Letecia Stauch and her manic talking that I always suspected was vyvanse influenced. Jenn and Stephan I think (opinion but supported with stuff they say) we’re sharing and abusing Xanax and adderall
@@thehattersmadness1957 That's exactly what I was thinking. All those psych meds she's on are affecting her mood and feelings.
She gets in trouble for her room being a mess???!!! She doesn't HAVE a room! 😵💫
I lost my son at the age of 9 inside of a Target for 5 minutes and I FREAKED OUT!!!! This woman sounds like she’s waiting for her daughter at the airport returning from a trip or something… I would be out of my ever loving mind !!!!!
For someone who thinks their daughter was taken, she has a surprisingly cheerful attitude. Most mornings I can’t even have a proper conversation without my caffeine fix. My dog escaped my backyard for 10 minutes and I was a wreck. I don’t know how she’s functioning! I would be imagining all the worst possible things! And she’s talking about the subway?
💯 it’s unreal. And no amount of sedatives can explain the light hearted laughter and joking with the detective. Especially after saying she thought she had been taken.
@@youtubing2334 right, I understand that some people can dissociate but not like this. Usually it’s a numb feeling, not this lighthearted conversation.
I slept on the couch in the living room for 2 yrs so my daughter had her own room. I am suspicious of EVERY person that comes in contact with them. I dont give a damn about being called paranoid or crazy. My childrens safety is more important than ppls feelings . Period
Sounds like their well-being is important to you as well! Good Job Mom❤
This is what we’re supposed to do and be like not what she did that’s not a parent especially in her own home!!
Each others Buddy 🤢 Absolutely Demented !!!!!!!!!!!
Why would you need help putting a 13 yr old to sleep or help get ready for school 🤦🏽♀️ that’s weird to me!!!
If she didn’t always drive Maddie and she walked sometimes, why would the mom suddenly need “help”? It’s a story and a bad one.
So she needed a good night sleep and claims she needed to take her meds… as if she didn’t take the meds daily? Did she take an additional med for sleeping or anxiety that caused deep sleep? She woke up for the dog leash so she wasn’t in a deep sleep. It makes no sense.
If there’s a master bedroom, why would your ex boyfriend go up to the extra bedroom with your daughter? Why wouldn’t he be in the master with her or the living room?
Why did Maddie have a makeshift bedroom in the living room but there was bedroom #4?
I wonder if the roommates heard or noticed anything.
When the detective asked for the roommates contact info, it’s when her “anxiety” peaked….
She didn’t flinch when the other detective shared she was with sex crimes….. if my child were missing and suddenly homicide, child sex crime detectives were speaking with me.. I would be so scared and would have a million questions and she just said ok.
She was so tired and didn’t want McDonald’s and was sleeping in the car but got dropped off super early for school to walk the rest of the way? Makes no sense.
And the mom also mentioned she went to pick her up and usually waits around about an hour for school dismissal… why? Seems so strange if Maddie sometimes walks.
I find it strange that the bedrooms doors are numbered as well mixed with the tripod. I can’t help but think some horrible disgusting things happened in that room and then it comes back to how didn’t the mom and roommates know?
That stood out to me as being completely unreasonable! My daughter is 12 and can do anything I can do! She doesn't need anyone to make sure she showers and gets ready for bed! They're trying to paint Madeline as unable to function without them. Very weird.
THIS!! My thoughts exactly!!!
I have 4 kids and even when they were all toddlers I did it without any help! Now help you’ve been nice when I was getting no sleep because I had an infant & three under 6 but I still didn’t ask for help!
Not saying there’s anything wrong with needing or asking for help BUT you ask for help from your mom, your grandma, your aunt, or another HIGHLY trusted adult. Not an EX BOYFRIEND that you barely see!! It’s not adding up! It’s a terrible lie!! Also she did NOT need help with a 13yr old!!!! Maddie was THIRTEEN! Plenty old enough to dress & feed herself! The only way you’d need help with a 13yr old is if they were mentally or physically disabled. Maddie was neither! She didn’t require assistance in the shower or in bed!
Also Jenn had family close by! Her mother actually kept Maddie most of the week anyway! Why not ask her mom for help ??? See could’ve rode the bus to school on days mom was “too tired”.
Nothing about this story or situation makes any sense!!!
@redwoodtrail all valid points, but the last room 4 does have a plausible explanation. They live near Disney and sometimes rent those rooms to people going there on vacation. The tripod and lube though... pretty obvious what that's for.
That’s what I thought! I think she knew about the abuse!!!
She had more of an emotional reaction when she thought she might not have access to her pills!! This woman isn't playing with a full deck
iep... mental issues for shore. maybe she shouldn't have Madeline's custody.
@@tll224There is a certain IQ level where people basically seem capable because they can mirror others for appropriateness, learn to not cause conflict and are basically happy. They are the people that don't overthink things, barely think it through the first time. They occasionally blow and can't control anger when things confuse them. It's right on the borderline of mild intellectual disability. I can see this being mistaken for depression and a host of other things by a bad family Dr. or disinterested shrink. Then they just pile on the meds. I had therapy clients like this that I always struggled with bc I thought they were capable of improving the cognitive/behavioral link. They weren't. So in seriousness-how unintelligent and medicated is she? Secondly, what is her SA history? If everyone from Grandma to birth dad are abusers/victims she would have zero idea what is normal or appropriate. As in maybe she should not have had full custody of Madeline.
Right. Sadly bio dad didn’t make much of an effort either. Losers
I've watched this a month ago. But I kept it up to watch again later. Then more and different cases come up. We are asked what stands out to you. I doubt after a month my thoughts matter. But here's what stands out. I've had to do a lot of bloodwork due to my own health issues. They always ask me to fast 12 hours before blood is drawn. I even had an argument with my doctors appt. setter. I have vampire hours. I go to bed at 4am and wake up at noon. I don't get home from work until 10-11p. He insisted a 10am appt. Not possible. His worry was that any later and I would have breakfast or coffee. You can't even drink a soda pop or coffee before bloodwork. What I'm trying to say is her timeline has to be pinpoint precise. Which I'm not sure she is capable of doing. If she gets home from work, then eats dinner to take meds. She would have had to eat/drink no later than 10 pm to make her 10am fasting/bloodwork appointment. Am I the only one who noticed this? She doesn't even mention fasting. It's not a concern. No one has asked her what her bloodwork was needed for. Doctors don't ask for bloodwork just for the hell of it. They are trying to find out what is wrong. For me it was to see what is wrong with my lungs. I'm not a doctor and avoid them when possible. But one would think that when doing bloodwork they are trying to find out about a specific complaint the patient is having. Whether it be diabetes, lung issues, perhaps even mental issues. Since Jenn is so apt to tell us what meds she takes and what they are for. Even telling us about PTSD, but was that self diagnosed? Did she go doctor shopping to find a doctor who writes scripts like candy? Regards to finance, she sounds like a person looking for an excuse not to work. To file for disability, you have to jump through an awful lot of hoops and do a series of tests to prove you are not capable of working. It makes me wonder if she ate her sandwich and took meds after the fasting period to throw the bloodwork test off. On purpose. If one has the next two days off. Your broke and on a budget. Dependent on disability checks. Only people you will see is the bloodwork people and family. Who cares if you are having symptoms from missing your meds on Saturday. Acting crazy. Family is used to it. According to Yolanda, via the Jenn blogs, Yolanda never believed Jenn would amount to anything anyway. This is where I get angry. No one in my eyes is off the hook for failing this angel who just turned 13. It's hard enough to turn 13 without all these people around her failing her. But I am also not blaming police for diving into these questions because police aren't trained to ask the right questions involving medical issues. But the main question is...What was the bloodwork needed for?
Only 10 minutes into this and OMG CHARGE HER NOW!!!
She is so lazy can't even say bye to her daughter in the morning unless she already knew she was not alive that morning....I wonder if authorities hear their interviews afterwards...🤔
I can’t believe she hasn’t been charged with interfering in an active case, lying to a police officer, neglect of a child at the very least until they can further investigate and possibly up the charges.
IMHO she should be charged as being a pimp
Why should she be charged?
@@snippetsordinarylifeNonsense… kids are abused all the time… usually their parents don’t know it’s going on…,
@eternity7477 Jenn says.. "I sent them upstairs" she is evil & it wouldn't be far fetched to speculate that she made $$$ from exploiting & providing her daughter as the means to make that $.
@@christoph1596because she failed to protect her child, she's misleading police, she allowed a grown as man to sleep in a tiny bed with a gun, lotion and a tripod while she sprawled out in her king sized bed. She neglect that child severely how can you not see that
She knows so much about him. But not her daughter,,
A thirteen year old girl doesn’t need a grown man to help her take a shower, brush her teeth, get dressed, etc. And certainly doesn’t need a grown man sleeping in the same bed with her. That is straight up inappropriate and sexually unacceptable. Thats abuse. What kind of mom needs help walking her dog, getting a healthy 13 year old ready for school. Thats laziness on her part. This murder wouldn’t have happened if she didn’t have him staying at her house.
This mom is the worst mom ever
How is she not charged yet with child neglect and Allowing a grown man to sleep with her child. She seems like she is not a very present parent.
They knew each other for over 7 years so
Maddie felt he was a father figure probably.
This is terrible 😔🙏🏼
No. She knew dad's are not supposed to hurt kids. Poor Maddie was SA by that monster for years.
How could the mom not know? I think she knows. I think she did everything stephan wanted.
The charges are coming, they’re still building a case.
JS says that she, i.e. MS came back with lots of presents and was super happy. Have the gift bags been seen, or was there any sign of them anywhere in the house? Her story feels like she edited it to suit her.
if she was sleepy, why would she want to go to school early? That don’t even make sense.
That's why they devised the McD excuse...
She’s a monster. The police are building their case on her. Stating that they have no charges on her at this time may be a tactic to smoke out additional evidence and/or witnesses.
This woman does not miss her daughter.
I don't understand How can you have a guest room For when this damn demon shows up in your house but you don't have a bedroom for Maddie. No doubt in my mind is she prioritized Stefan Stern's first in her own daughter
Maddie should have had that room with the locks on for herself. I’ve got two daughters myself…I just can’t with this woman 😡
Jennifer said "I dropped her off ..then quickly said I mean WE dropped her off"
She is NOT telling the truth on everything!!!
I caught that
@@GMAlisa Yeah and then she didn’t even go with them to drop her off. Something happened in the night time and she’s covering up
@@shellingout Yes exactly 💯
Of course she's not. Because she knows exactly what happened
In the interview with the female detective from the Orange County Sheriff's Department, Jenn still said 'we.'
(It's after the hour point in this video.)
Let's remember she hasn't been charged YET. Who knows what's being looked into right now.
So let me get this straight. Your 13 year old daughter is missing and you’re having what seems to be a very casual conversation with an officer.
Well……if you already know she’s dead🤷♀️
Exactly, so odd. And they all have psychological problems and meds. As if it’s just a given
Please arrest this woman and throw away the key. She helped make this happen to Maddie. So disgusting Jennifer. 😮😮😮😮😮
What the hell she said that she sent her boyfriend upstairs with her daughter
Sleeping as a threesom ☹️ They seemed to think this was normal. Stefan got a new girlfriend and told her about sleeping with Maddie. Didn't think anything odd about it. She got shot of him.
Your heard her correctly because, "she needed some good sleep". What a poor excuse for a mother.
@@kitchenskills5427 Jen hadn't taken her meds the day before so wanted to stabilize her bipolar condition
I don't believe he was her boyfriend, I believe she was pimping her child out to him for money.......... She is sicker than he is, and I don't believe he was the first person she sold her daughter to either. That child was tortured to death by those monsters, and she should be locked up as well.
He EX boyfriend. Even creepier.
New Sub. Enjoying your get to it vidoes, thank you. Notice Jen says Stephen calls her while out? How if he forgot his phone at her place. Did police ever take Jens phone? If true should be a call from unknown number at that time or from his phone to Jens phone. Would prove more lies if there is no incoming call, or incoming call either way. Jen claimed Stephen called her. And if true for what, police never asked what he wanted or said when he called.
Why would they all sleep in the same bed? What family does that?!?!
They weren't even a family
Not only that, no child should be sleeping with their parents!
Unless it's an infant or toddler, it is very weird.
My 8 yr old son likes to fall asleep in the bed with his dad and I but we put him in his bed as soon as he's asleep. The situation that went on with them was sick and should've never happened. Jenn clearly shouldn't have had custody of Maddie.
Sometimes when my kids are sick they want to sleep in our bed. My husband, their father will sleep somewhere else. Also by 8 my daughter preferred her own bed.
Guaranteed due to the amount of pictures and videos he had of her, they were being sold as csam material, and the mom was definitely getting a cut. You don't have 7000 images and videos just for yourself. She sold her daughter.
Jenn seems like she’s enjoying small talk with the detective, not at all concerned that her daughter is missing. She is guilty and needs to be held accountable!
She already knew her daughter wasn't coming back. There was no urgency.
The way she giggled at the detective's joke about his junk car. Even if her daughter ran away, like how is she so jovial?
Kids don’t get bipolar (stepha’s mom stated this about MS) at 13…they are going through puberty and are dealing with emotions (and in MS’s case MUCH MORE)…they also shouldn’t be diagnosed with HDAD at 6 - she’s a little girl! What a cop out for parenting - “she’s very forgetful”. Ridiculous.
Do you get the feeling that she is so bored with all the questioning and also she stalls to make sure she doesn't forget her lies. I have heard this testimony so many times and she is not bothered or upset
I picked my 24 year old sister up from a party last night, busy in the door guns a blazing (not Literaly)
Just because she passed out and was in the bed with a guy she went to highschool with.
I don’t care if he ‘knew her since highschool’
You can’t trust anyone. I can’t even imagine having a child and letting a random man be alone with them in the same house, nvm the same bed.
Hell to the no.
This mother gave her daughter to her boyfriend to SA the girl since the age of eight and yet the police aren't charging her. i have questions.
Does this sound like the parent of a missing child?
@@wexfordgirl1 absolutely not ,she wants to protect her ogre man
I would be in pieces. Out of my mind with worry. Her tone is so composed and at times flippant .
@@dianachick7887 even giggly
Nope
Nope.
“I have anxiety “ in the calmest voice ever.
Bish if you had anxiety you would have been too nervous to send your baby to bed with a monster. She hasn’t even panicked yet for her daughter missing.
Not defending her BUT anxiety doesn’t look the same for everyone. Some people show anxiety externally. Some people can be having terrible anxiety and you’d never know it unless you knew them personally. My son is that way. Everything happens inside.
@@Haveaniceday11118 she probably didn’t get anxiety from sending her daughter to bed with that monster; that was normal for her. She has anxiety because she knows what really happened.
@@brittanysampson1898 I wonder if she was mixing true warning signals from her emotional perception and anxiety with no external reason. Anyway, I always get the impression that «anxiety» in her words is too vague to have real meaning.
Okay, I'm 1 hr in. I am amazed by the great work by the police officer to gain Jennifer Soto's confidence. You can hear in Jennifer's voice that she is flattered by the law officer's "attention" and really opens up and reveals much more than she realizes. Jennifer reveals how self absorbed she is, familiar with playing the victim and her narcissism is fierce. Her lack of concern about where her daughter is at the given moment is astounding. As a single mother of two daughters, if my daughter or daughters were missing, I would be out of my mind frantic and agonized, EVERY MOMENT. Jenn Soto is driving around with a police officer, laughing and giggling while she tells him the story of her life. It is beyond sickening.
I agree
Maddie didn’t come back from her party on Sunday “super happy”, in fact she was disappointed more of her friends didn’t show up and upset that her mom stiffed her a present. She also said she didn’t want to go home.
Exactly 💯
So Maddie got herself off to school every morning.
Why was it necessary to his help now?
She has also stated that Maddie wasn't capable of getting herself home by herself.
She's lying!
Love the information, Gisela! Thanks for sharing.
Justice for Maddie! Jenn is a horrible mother, I really do hope they smarten up and charge her for neglect. This is disgusting
Yes !Maybe women would think twice then,before bringing in anyone they take a fancy too 🙄
The mother is hesitant when asked about anything regarding Stephan but there are some parts clearly rehearsed! When he called me at 10:18?? She can’t remember things yet knows his exact comings and goings that morning.
She doesn’t even have her daughter come in say goodbye, I’m going to school or tell her to have a good day? She knew … he probably told her he gave her “too much” medicine and overdosed.
The nonchalant tone of this conversation between these two people has completely damaged my perception of humanity!! They behave like this discussion is no more important than the "price of tea in China "!
I've lost faith in the human race!!!!
So, If she admitted that she never physically saw Maddie that morning , HOW did she give a description of what she wore to school?
She even corrected SS during another interview. I was like, "huh?"
Stephan and her rehearsed the story.
🚩 Jenn not sure how many times he's visited since they split up in Dec.
🚩Jenn wasn't sure if SS arrived on Saturday or Sunday - it was only a few days before!
🚩She was very tired so went to sleep in the master bedroom's king size bed while sending MS and SS (ex bf) to sleep together in a double bed upstairs.
🚩You didn't get up in the morning, make breakfast for your daughter.
🚩MS was embarrassed by SS vehicle but I thought SS was driving his dad's car.
🚩No emotions, no tears, no ugly crying, no concern for daughter's well being!
🚩No mention of MS's asthma
🚩Heard voices in the house but couldn't distinguish her daughter's voice.
🚩No questions about why police from sex/violence team are involved. No questions about why all the questions about SS
🚩Doesn't question why SS went out in the early hours after MS was reported missing!
🚩Jenn - "I'm gonna say" - what's with the guess work.
🚩Her overall demeanour during interview - I wouldn't be chatting about moving/living in New York
Too many 🚩's
IMHO - I believe Jenn was aware what was happening to MS, and knew MS was deceased during the night! She's no mother!
SS's dad used to be an Orange County Deputy - that's police, right - that's not a good look!
Guest bedroom? While your daughter has no privacy in the living room? Why not let your daughter have her own room with her own lock and let any guest stay in the makeshift bedroom?! She never protected her daughter she basically pumped her poor kid out. She was a terrible mother!!
Giving Maddie that room with the multi locking door and giving sterns the couch could have saved Maddie’s life - also saved her from the horrific abuse
@Vlaloca777 tbh, i think that make shift bedroom she said was Maddie's,that was "set up" in the corner of the living room, was just THAT...A SET UP!! Incase, they became suspect. Or if the Police, DCFS, or CPS happened to stop by for a wellness check. They could tell her to say it was her room, because they KNEW, she wouldn't ever go against what they said, in fear of, she may get into more trouble, or even worse.....
This just sickening me!!!
Her timings are too specific. 10.15, 10.18, 4.10 Not 'about 4pm' just too specific
@32:47 JS states “ her most recent dirty laundry is on my bathroom floor and we have walked around it, and not touched it”
If Jen did not see Maddie in the morning, how did Maddie’s bed wear end up on Jen’s bathroom floor? I thought Jen’s bathroom was off her bedroom.
How she talks laughing and joking … I can’t fathom even smiling if my child was missing.
For sure, I’d have to be highly medicated just to keep breathing. My world ends without my daughter in it!
Even at funerals, there is the relief of being able to laugh at old memories and funny situations that occur in the awkwardness of grief. They tend to be few and far between, however. The normal tone of voice and lack of emotion in between laughing at a kid's funny quirks is surprising and concerning.
Joking about the dog- unbelievable! Heartless- she was jealous of Maddie because her loser boyfriend had eyes for her daughter instead of her-
Right?
It appears that she has a lot of psychological damage
The mother is so full of it!!! Arrest her already.
WTF?
She is 13 and they sleep together?
That's creepy as....
Oh, but she needs to really sleep so she leaves her daughter and bf to sleep together? Are you kidding?
This lady needs to be locked up.
No way she didn't suspect something at the least but more likely knew something. Who in their right mind allows their daughter to sleep in bed with their bf? If it were me as the bf, I would feel extremely uncomfortable with that arrangement and say I'll sleep on the couch. The fact he isn't objecting should have been a red flag.
He told a woman he was dating at some point that he would go to Jenn's, after they broke up, solely so sleep with Maddie. And that he had woken up with a hard on before. Wtaf?! If he was so comfortable telling that woman that it makes me wonder what he told Jenn or what she knew.
@@VictoriaMarch13did this woman know how old maddie was? That’s sick!
@@susiefoxy8130She did. She stopped talking to him but didn’t report it.
That's a good point, I would not be okay as a non family member even sleeping in the same room.
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My daughter is now 23 and her and her dad (my hubby) have a phenomenal relationship..and both my daughter and son were bad sleepers practically from birth and my husband and I were shifts workers I would work 3 nights as a nurse so those 3 nights my hubby was home with both kids by themselves and the other 4 nights it was the four of us in bed but once they turned 10 they were told they needed to be in own room, as we knew no way was it appropriate for my hubby to be sleeping with a young girl or me to be sleeping with a young boy..so for a mother to encourage her child to sleep with her boyfriend at 13 disgusts me. Also I’m a mental health worker working as a nurse in an youth and adolescent inpatient mental health unit and if we heard of this from one of our patients we would not allow patient home with the family until we found out info and assessed situation. This poor girl had no chance.. ❤
Maddie was not embarrassed of Stern's car..she was embarrassed of her abuser...and that is probably 😢why she wld asked to be dropped far from school .. 🤔
And why does a "boyfriend" or anyone for that fact "need to get a 13 yr old girl ready for school"? She was capable of that it sounded like😢
I've been asking the same thing. Makes no sense. But they act like she's just so dumb and can't do anything. They make me sick.
Exactly!!! She’s 13, not 5!!!!
And yet he moved away and didn’t live with them so he hadn’t been helping for how long? Why this night did he come back and this happen?
She claims she needed a good night sleep and mentioned her medication… wouldn’t she take her medication daily and it not be a big deal this evening unless she was taking more than prescribed or something out of the norm like a sleeping pill? But Maddie was 13 and it sounds like she often walked to and from school… why did she suddenly need the help and ride this morning?
Also what is the deal with the birthday party? What kind of mother doesn’t attend her daughter’s bday party? She excused it because she had work but why not schedule the party on an off day?
There’s so much that just didn’t make sense. Maddie was so tired and changed the McDonald’s plans because she was too tired then why leave that early and get to school so early? Why not stay at home and leave closer to school time? Because it’s all a lie and a bad one.
And the family made the posters and she seemed annoyed with the media contacting her…. She said there’s not much to say.. hello!??? Keep your daughter’s name and photo in the media.
It’s hard for guilty people to portray their idea of innocence… it’s come off way too nonchalant. They forget to show the worry and fear emotions they should be showing.
She also tried to minimize her lack of search efforts by stating they didn’t want to be in the way… and they looked the only place they knew. Also, she praised the cops for the work they were doing.
@@redwoodtrail awesome awesome points....i feel the police is lurking trying to figure it all....yep she is NOT portraying a concerned momma AT all!!! I remember my frantic when our 11 year old daughters bus was late and she had not arrived home! I was in a panic fast!!!
@@redwoodtrailshe only walked to the grandmother's office sometimes in the afternoons because it was close by. But I agree with everything you said.
This cop is actually a great interviewer. He’s so at ease while maintaining the cadence of everything. Reasking certain questions. Gaining so much information while not letting on that thjs is a legit interrogation.
Jen Soto just has one of those faces that instantly fills me with rage
There's a sub reddit for people with faces like hers.
Jen Soto looks guilty, as if she knew about bf or she disregarded the red flags . Look of guilty knowledge and NO tears .
Yesssssssss
I never cared for Jennifer's or Jessica's
“I have anxiety “ in the calmest voice ever . Ugh 😑
Thank you for posting all of this Gisela!! We love that you got this info.
Ok for me the thing I picked up on was that the reason Maddie and stefan were sent upstairs to room four was so that jenn could have a good nights sleep for work right?? Then later she says when she wasn't there when she went to pick her up 'maybe I forgot to tell her that I was picking her up today coz I didn't have to work that day'!!!
23:00 She asks if the cops will take her phone forever and cop responds that he hopes to give it back to Madeline. Interesting how mom sees an end but the cop that doesn’t know anything fully expects to return the phone to the missing person. Oooo! I could just 👋 her. How spry she is while her dead child is rotting in the Florida sun, yuck!
As a Mum of 4 adult children and 5 grandchildren I can’t comprehend her lack of care. Who lets their young daughter sleep in the same bed as her bf and where’s the desperation ?. I wouldn’t be able to speak I’d be so distraught . No mummy instinct it’s shocking .
She’s laughing and giggling with detective! It’s absolutely crazy!
Not only did she let her, she MADE her. It’s infuriating
I think Jenn’s choice of wording when talking about Maddie not being at school is very odd. She kept saying “she never made it” and she said the friend said “she never made it”
Interesting choice of wording, in my opinion. “She never made it” sounds like a phrase that they may have coined when talking about their “story” for the police, etc. 🤔
A real MOTHER does not tell her daughter to go sleep with her boyfriend Imo
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she remembers exactly when stephen called her but can barely remember when she last saw or heard her daughter🤨
If he’s only taken her to school once before.. then why would the car embarrassment discussion come up? Interesting
I think he took her/them other places like out to eat, etc.
And Stephan said he’d done it 5 or 6 times 🤷🏻♀️
Part of the cover up
Why is jenn not arressted at least for child endangerment? At the bare minimumfor letting maddy sleep with a grown man
When discussing the Officer taking Madeleines phone, Jennifer says “Will you take it forever?” Why would she think he would keep it forever if she thinks Madeline may just be missing?
A bad choice of words. She slipped up
She claims to have anxiety! Yet she is so calm! I would’ve been going bat shi CRAZY, if my child was missing! Smh
I’m not coming to her rescue because she is a POS and 💯💯💯 guilty but she’s likely over medicated with psych meds. It can make you very flat and hard to express emotions.
Thank G for your hard work.
Love from South Africa.
Like we say in South Africa “There is something wrong with her upstairs “
I listen to so many of these tapes of Jen during the interviews. There was not one time, not one! That she sobbed or put her head down and cried her tears were rolling down her cheeks. Not that sad over the loss of her daughter. This is a mother that had something to do with it.
I sadly agree. I even suspect her bff Stephan might have told her he “accidentally” killed M, or that he “just found her dead, help or they’ll blame me”…something like that. It is unfathomable that she isn’t crying or just totally broken down. She chatters, laughs here and there. There’s something sorely missing in this woman. Empathy, compassion and Love for her child is nowhere to be found. It’s just me, me, me, I, me, I and Stephan. She barely says Madeline’s name.
@@Veruska75 Well said. It is amazing to watch this play out and very hard to realize that there are people amongst us like this and the fact that they have children is sad. Maddie cried but no one heard her. 🙏🏻 God bless little Maddie and children like her.
This woman’s words infuriate me! She so vague …. She knows…. She knew…. She’s covering for herself..
She is scared shitless. I call BS on the anxiety excuse. She knew!!!!! All a cover up.
Id be hyperventilating and balling my eyes out every second I didnt see my daughters. She doesnt seem to care.
Exactly I’d be inconsolable, running a round like a mad woman whether it’s my child missing or my nephews/nieces. It’s like when your child disappears for a moment in the grocery store and you begin to panic. Her child is literally missing and unbeknownst to her in that moment she - could be dead, could have been trafficked, could be held hostage somewhere. How is she so calm?!?!?
These interviews are great G! Thanks so much for sharing. ❤
1:10:46 Did Stephan go back to return the leash?? Did he choke Maddie with the leash??
Jen’s “area” in the house is a mess. Stuff everywhere, yet she had the nerve to complain to the police that Maddie didn’t pick up after herself? She is a child, you are supposed to lead by example.
The fact Maddie didn’t have her own proper room but Stephen had his own… I doubt he paid for that room.
I know! Maddie should have had that room with 3 locks on the door (to keep him OUT) and sterns could have slept on the couch. Priorities are messed up in that home.
@@groverhateselmo absolutely !! Priorities were so whacked out. She favored rest and medicine over her daughter’s safety..
Guilty she’s way to calm her daughter is missing and she’s worried about details about McDonalds which never happened.
"McDonald's" was his excuse to take Maddie the next morning.
That seems premeditated.
I also think he over medicates them both.
@@melsafken764I'm sure Jen has no problem over medicating herself.
Her face bothers me, hes eyes look soulless
She couldn't remember if Stefan arrived Saturday or Sunday. What is wrong with her memory? 'I'm going to say' Well don't you know?🙄
Yes! She’s answered a few questions that way now! Ugh
She takes a lot of pills.
Right! And when they asked if he was home when she came back from her blood work appt, and she had to think hard before saying “I’m gonna say yes”. You don’t remember YESTERDAY, the day your daughter went missing??? Every detail would be seared into my mind for eternity. How do you not remember coming home to your boyfriend or to an empty house 24 hours ago? Infuriating
@@briannao9663 She answers questions like she's on a TV quiz show. 😬
He probably drugged Jenn, too.
Absolutely NO emotion whatsoever.....even if she did know about all that happened on that night and morning you'd think she could muster something....she showed more emotion while rubbing that animals shoulder while he mustered fake tears..... but then i suppose she willingly offered Madie up as a sacrifice so she could keep a guy around 😢
I can’t believe she hasn’t been seen on any interview shedding one tear. I would be and absolute basket case crying my eyeballs out. Not sure I would even be able without my voice cracking and a breakdown.
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It’s so difficult to listen to this. MH and MH meds are not an excuse for how she is responding. She doesn’t care about her daughter.
Thank you for your hard work, G💜
All the red flags and the lack of concern for her daughter, who's "very forgetful" and missing. Jenn refers to Madeline in past tense when describing the relationship between Stephan and Madeline and at other times during this interview. She said Madeline would move so much she would end up on top of her by morning, but sends her 13-year-old daughter upstairs with her bf to a double bed while she slept on her king sized bed with the dog. That is so disturbing. When you showed the picture of that bed and it's only a little bigger than a single bed, it just rubbed me the wrong way. Jenn has changed her story from what she said on the news to what she's telling this detective. She seems more concerned about Stephan and his poor elderly parents than her own daughter. Why would Jenn sit at the school for 1 hour before school gets out, then never goes inside to see what's holding her daughter up. She just pulls away after 10 minutes. I think she knew Madeline was "gone." Not one time does Jenn ask, "Why are you asking so many questions about Stephan?" It was heartbreaking to see the note in Madeline's notebook describing what the "trauma" she's suffered is causing her. How a mother doesn't notice those behaviors as an issue is downright neglectful?
There's so much we could discuss, but I thought the cause of death for Madeline was strangulation? That's what Court tv released a while back. Thank you so much for sharing and everything you do Gisela for all your subs. ❤❤
a mother only doesn't notice if she doesn't what to notice. she looked the other way... afraid to loose that "great catch" Stephan was. 🙄🤬
There was evidence, we were told, that Madeline had been sexually abused for quite some time. And evidence of recent sexual abuse. No way this “mother” didn’t know. Sending your 13 year old up to sleep with your ex-boyfriend on the regular?? That’s very freakin far from normal.
there has not been an official cause of death released nor a time. the corner noted with corcern the broken thyoibone ( (sp) which shows strangulation but it is not listed as cause.
Cororner also observed some blunt force trauma.
There has been a massive documents and photos release recently and FOIA applies to all of that's been released.
Content creators and True Crime streamers have the investigation results and discovery through their FOIA requests.
The LE and other agencies are certainly been doing their utmost for Maddie. They have to be feeling her horrible pain that she was forced to live with every day.
One saving grace for Maddie is that people knew her to possess a higher beyond her years maturity despite her young age.