Great video !! I have shot a few different bows and took the big plunge and spent the extra and ordered a RX4 Alpha. Thank you for being so thorough about this bow. I can’t wait till it gets here !!!
After shooting them all today, I ended up ordering one of these Rx-4 Alphas, which I really did not want to do lol ($$$)But between it and the Axius Alpha, they both shot Identical, maybe a tiny bit less after shot vibe but neither one was really noticeable. the turbos were a no go for me, hard no, the draw was really similar to the sr6 I traded in for the RX. So trade in made the price a bit more palatable and made the choice to go carbon that much easier Excited to get it!
I’m not a “Turbo” guy but it looks like the turbo is more in my ATA range from Hoyt. I’d like to see a demo of the Hoyt Turbo in a 29” DL when you have an opportunity.
Looking at these speeds and the new PSE EVO NXT 31 it is pretty surprising. The NXT 31 is at a 329IBO and on your last video it launches a 458gr arrow at 273fps. This bow is listed at a 343IBO and shoots a 442gr arrow at the same 273fps (at your 28/70lb setting). The RX4 does shoot the same 421gr arrow at 284fps vs the 282fps out of the NXT 31 but seems to fall flat with the heavier weight arrows. Also the NXT has a larger brace at 6.5 vs the 6 1/8 of this RX4. Hoyt makes a solid product but I just don't think they are where they want to be in the design department.
Your channel is here to help. If a riser is flexing and you know it. I think you should tell us. We trust your knowledge. I know for myself I have learned a lot from watching your videos. Please don’t hold back. This will keep you honest. Among many dishonest channels. Please don’t hold back. We need at least one honest archery channel. Ty for your videos.
Wow ! It lost 30fps from 30” to 28” draw. Tell me speed don’t matter........ id love to see a 2cam on 28 vs a 3cam on 28. Just to see the actual numbers. Nice review as always.
Hey Kellen how is Hoyts draw length this year? Is their draw lengths accurate in length? Matthews were long and Hoyts have been short in the past. How do you find there draw length this year?
Most bows sell at a 29" draw length, so if doing a review, I think he chose the best representative cam. Did you watch the whole video? He shoots at 28", and explains to add 12 fps if switching to the number 2 cam based on comparing last year's cams' differences.
@@5jjt and that's if it's the same as last yr. Maybe he doesnt have a number 2 cam yet is kind my guess? No one who is buying a bow with a 28in draw would want a #3 cam unless you want a slower bow for no reason. I cant imagine it draws much different and if it does than a review on it would be cool. Hopefully my shop when I get home off the road has one I can check out my self. But it is possible hoyt didn't ship the #2 cam bows out yet that is a definit possibly
I can almost guarantee you that your going to be hard pressed finding a shop that has an rx4 or axius with a number 2 cam at 70lbs. Watch joel from whitetail fit, he has two bow builds with a helix and rx3, number 2 cam, 27 inches but at 80lbs
Which carbon riser that torque and twist? I would like to know. The only other company that make carbon riser is PSE. Do they twist? are they made from cheaper carbon?
Diamond and Bow Tech make "carbon" bows as well, but they aren't actually carbon and they're horribly inconsistent. That's why they're $800 and not $1600
are the ultraflex adapters needed to press the rx4 alpha? I was told they are needed. To my eye the limbs look barely more past parallel compared to my Helix which is easily pressed in an ez green press
@@wild_outdoors_tv #2 because u are utilizing the entire cam whereas if u went with #3 u will be only using the beginning of the cam as the #3 cam goes up to 31" draw length. #3 will be smoother draw cycle but #2 will be about 15 more fps
Thanks, but 500 grains is not a heavy weight arrow 😊 You should do a 700grain arrow, a 600 grain one, in a addition to what you do already 🤗 Thanks for all your videos!
600 and 700 grain arrows are just pointless. Unless you are shooting a water buffalo or something they are overkill. I've blown through every elk/deer/bear I've hit with an arrow between 450 and 500 grains. Tou sacrifice so much trajectory with a 700 grain arrow that its hard to shoot through tight windows and animals are more likely to jump the string. Just my experience though.
@@InsideOutPrecision sure, but... it would still be interesting to see the speed for us waterbuffalo hunters out there 😉 Thanks again for all the information you are sharing! 🤗
@@InsideOutPrecision are you going to do another quick video when you get it? Sorry for blowing up your TH-cam channel .. I think Thursday I'm gonna try to shoot both the new Mathews and the rx4. I just hope they have the 2 cam. Has hoyt gotten any better about shipping bows out? Back when I got my rx1 the one shop said it was taking 6 to 8 weeks for custom orders.
Mikey Woomer Jr I’m still newish to archery. But I would think it foolish to go with a 3 cam if you have a 28in draw. Don’t most strings stretch a bit? Least with the 2 cam when/if your strings did stretch you could go down on draw length still to get closer to your natural draw rather then being already at the minimum. Since you’ll never need a 30in draw anyway I would only get it if you can get the 2 cam setup.
Wondering if you could gear towards women? I noticed you coach a female target shooter and TH-cam is extremely lacking in female reviewers or Male reviewers that will talk about the female end of hunting and target bows... which sucks. Really enjoy your channel, thanks for all you do. Smiles and blessings...
That's a great idea actually. They make almost every bow I review in a 50lb model, i just don't usually have many in stock to review to display the speed. That new Mathews VXR 28 would be an awesome option for a female shooter. Lisa ( the shop owner) is going to shoot one this year
@@InsideOutPrecision thank you for responding so quickly! I would live to try it... sadly NO ONE here in my area carries these bows for my draw length and weight either. Would you mind telling me what your student uses? I really like the way the bow seems to shoot when I watch her. I'm willing to try any recommendations but sadly unless I order one I can't try before I buy and I'm gonna drop some serious money for a bow but I can't buy one of each just to try it. I won't buy a bow I can't feel the draw and feel of first, I'm sure you wouldn't either. It's sad because obviously women do archery but noone caters to them in their shops. I may be able to pull 50lbs one day but not now. I've had shop owner try to "help" me pull a bow to try at 50lbs and there's no way to get the true feel of the draw that way. Otherwise my options are kids bows. Very frustrating. I'll try to find that Matthews to test but I doubt they have one set up for me. Again I really appreciate your response. I'm subscribed and a fan...
@@hisimagenme Maya shoots the Hoyt ProForce FX. It's more of a target specific model, but would make a good hunting bow. On the mathews they should be able to put the 60lb mods on it and then back it off to like 30lbs
@@InsideOutPrecision Thank you! Hoyt will be here at an archery shop on the 19th... though they don't have a phone number I've filled out their contact form requesting they reach me before they come so I can ask for specific models and set up for my range. Hoping they'll get back to me. I've already called about the Mathews and no one carries that bow with the mods for my set up. 😔. Hopeful that someone can get back to me as I've sent out a help message on several forums for good archery shops with pros within a 200 mile radius of me where I can get the help I need. I'm in Albuquerque NM. Really appreciate you time... thank you.
@@InsideOutPrecision I have a question since I like the amount of knowledge you possess probability more than any shop in my state I have a 6 year old that I want to introduce to archery this Christmas and I want a bow that he can grow with but I have no idea what to get for a 6 year old turning 7 in march
@@JEHAB1 at that age the key keeping it simple. I'd get a Mini Genesis bow for now, they can both shoot for the next 3 years or so and they're under $200. You can add a sight and and use a release with it after they are ready for that, but to start just keep it simple and let them shoot it with fingers at like 5-10 yds. Sometimes it's hard for them to keep the arrow on the little flipper rest, so adding a whisker biscuit can make life easier. Way to start them young though! Good luck, man.
I love you how actually go over everything instead of just saying here’s the new Hoyt and just shooting through a chrono. Well done bro
Thanks man!
Great video !! I have shot a few different bows and took the big plunge and spent the extra and ordered a RX4 Alpha. Thank you for being so thorough about this bow. I can’t wait till it gets here !!!
This has to be one of the best if not thee best review I've ever come across. Absolutely thorough . Thank you!
After shooting them all today, I ended up ordering one of these Rx-4 Alphas, which I really did not want to do lol ($$$)But between it and the Axius Alpha, they both shot Identical, maybe a tiny bit less after shot vibe but neither one was really noticeable. the turbos were a no go for me, hard no, the draw was really similar to the sr6 I traded in for the RX. So trade in made the price a bit more palatable and made the choice to go carbon that much easier Excited to get it!
Just bought a new old stock RX4 turbo. Just not many reviews on it on TH-cam. Can’t wait to get it set up!
Awesome, subscribed! Excitedly hoping for an RX4 Alpha and Mach 1 direct comparison!
I’m not a “Turbo” guy but it looks like the turbo is more in my ATA range from Hoyt. I’d like to see a demo of the Hoyt Turbo in a 29” DL when you have an opportunity.
Looking at these speeds and the new PSE EVO NXT 31 it is pretty surprising. The NXT 31 is at a 329IBO and on your last video it launches a 458gr arrow at 273fps. This bow is listed at a 343IBO and shoots a 442gr arrow at the same 273fps (at your 28/70lb setting). The RX4 does shoot the same 421gr arrow at 284fps vs the 282fps out of the NXT 31 but seems to fall flat with the heavier weight arrows. Also the NXT has a larger brace at 6.5 vs the 6 1/8 of this RX4. Hoyt makes a solid product but I just don't think they are where they want to be in the design department.
Yeah it under promises and over delivers. Most other bows over promise and under deliver. I think PSE made the biggest/ best change this year.
Your channel is here to help. If a riser is flexing and you know it. I think you should tell us. We trust your knowledge. I know for myself I have learned a lot from watching your videos. Please don’t hold back. This will keep you honest. Among many dishonest channels. Please don’t hold back. We need at least one honest archery channel. Ty for your videos.
Any of the bow tech "carbon" bows are complete trash. No two are alike
Can you do a video on the differences in the Mathews TRX lineup from the TRX 7 / 8 / 36 / 38 / 40 - 2017 - 2018 - 2019 - 2020
Wow ! It lost 30fps from 30” to 28” draw. Tell me speed don’t matter........ id love to see a 2cam on 28 vs a 3cam on 28. Just to see the actual numbers. Nice review as always.
He said to add 14-16fps
If you were to drop the let off to 80%,you'll gain also ,possibly 10-13 fps more.
Excellent detailed review and speed test
I like to see a review of helix turbo, thanks
Likewise
Hey Kellen how is Hoyts draw length this year? Is their draw lengths accurate in length? Matthews were long and Hoyts have been short in the past. How do you find there draw length this year?
Very good review video does this bow come left handed
Can you give us specific info on the 2021 bows ?
Really wish you would have shot the number 2 cam. That speed test was pointless for anyone with a 28 in draw and under
Most bows sell at a 29" draw length, so if doing a review, I think he chose the best representative cam. Did you watch the whole video? He shoots at 28", and explains to add 12 fps if switching to the number 2 cam based on comparing last year's cams' differences.
@@5jjt the number 2 cam is different at 28 did you pay attention
@@5jjt he said it is a 10 to 15 fps difference. That's a lot would be nice to see it in action
@@5jjt and that's if it's the same as last yr. Maybe he doesnt have a number 2 cam yet is kind my guess? No one who is buying a bow with a 28in draw would want a #3 cam unless you want a slower bow for no reason. I cant imagine it draws much different and if it does than a review on it would be cool. Hopefully my shop when I get home off the road has one I can check out my self. But it is possible hoyt didn't ship the #2 cam bows out yet that is a definit possibly
I can almost guarantee you that your going to be hard pressed finding a shop that has an rx4 or axius with a number 2 cam at 70lbs. Watch joel from whitetail fit, he has two bow builds with a helix and rx3, number 2 cam, 27 inches but at 80lbs
Which carbon riser that torque and twist? I would like to know. The only other company that make carbon riser is PSE. Do they twist? are they made from cheaper carbon?
Diamond and Bow Tech make "carbon" bows as well, but they aren't actually carbon and they're horribly inconsistent. That's why they're $800 and not $1600
When is the turbo review coming?
Will probably drop sunday
Nice review man
Inside Out Precision
What are your thoughts on this Hoyt Alpha vs. Mathews VXR 28' ?
are the ultraflex adapters needed to press the rx4 alpha? I was told they are needed. To my eye the limbs look barely more past parallel compared to my Helix which is easily pressed in an ez green press
Question is how stable is it for accuracy beyond 40 yards
Is that the carbon riser or aluminum
Thanks for Another Great video,anxiously waiting to see what the no.2 cam does.
Just add 12-14 fps at 28"!
Going to do any Axius reviews?? Or maybe Axius vs Helix
You know your shit brotha! Great review. So true about the #2 cam @28". Mine came in at 15 fps faster than the #3 cam.
Tyler Durden so if you get the two can instead of the three can you’ll get more speed with the two than with the three?
@@wild_outdoors_tv depends what draw length you are? I am a 28" which happens to fall on both cams (back of #2 front of #3)
Tyler Durdenim also a 28 inch draw . So in order to achieve the best speed would I want to go with #2 cam or #3?
@@wild_outdoors_tv #2 because u are utilizing the entire cam whereas if u went with #3 u will be only using the beginning of the cam as the #3 cam goes up to 31" draw length. #3 will be smoother draw cycle but #2 will be about 15 more fps
With that no.2 cam,you can also pick up 10-13 fps more with 80%let off.that's what I did with my hyperforce at 27 in.on the 3 cam
Thanks, but 500 grains is not a heavy weight arrow 😊
You should do a 700grain arrow, a 600 grain one, in a addition to what you do already 🤗
Thanks for all your videos!
600 and 700 grain arrows are just pointless. Unless you are shooting a water buffalo or something they are overkill. I've blown through every elk/deer/bear I've hit with an arrow between 450 and 500 grains. Tou sacrifice so much trajectory with a 700 grain arrow that its hard to shoot through tight windows and animals are more likely to jump the string. Just my experience though.
@@InsideOutPrecision sure, but... it would still be interesting to see the speed for us waterbuffalo hunters out there 😉
Thanks again for all the information you are sharing! 🤗
@@usbsol For sure! I'll keep that in mind for a review!
Great review! Thanks!
new Hoyts due out in January 2021 (if we are still alive then).
Hey Kellen from what you’ve seen working at the shop. How many fps does moving up to 80 pound limbs add compared to 70 pound limbs?
Usually about 15-20 fps
Was The Rx4 shown in this video the Gore optifade elevated color? Looks awesome
Subalpine!
Alpha 81# , 480grain arrow ,have 308 FPS, 420grain have 318fps
What would be your thoughts on dropping the let off to 80%let off.my hyperforce bounced between 10-13 fps more.sorry man,I had to rewatch !
Not sure what your question is. ..
Does the PSE Carbon Air twist when drawn?
No...I was referring to Bow Techs "carbon" bows
Great review
My next bow👍
Thanks brother
Is this rx4 aluminum? And did Hoyt make an rx-4 in carbon?
The RX4 is carbon...the Axious is aluminium
Do you have a #2 cam?
Not in the Alpha yet. They're on the way
@@InsideOutPrecision awesome. I had a feeling that you didnt have one yet. That makes since. No one seems to understand what I'm saying.
@@InsideOutPrecision for a 28 inch draw that seems like it is a game changer to me?
@@InsideOutPrecision are you going to do another quick video when you get it? Sorry for blowing up your TH-cam channel .. I think Thursday I'm gonna try to shoot both the new Mathews and the rx4. I just hope they have the 2 cam. Has hoyt gotten any better about shipping bows out? Back when I got my rx1 the one shop said it was taking 6 to 8 weeks for custom orders.
Mikey Woomer Jr I’m still newish to archery. But I would think it foolish to go with a 3 cam if you have a 28in draw. Don’t most strings stretch a bit? Least with the 2 cam when/if your strings did stretch you could go down on draw length still to get closer to your natural draw rather then being already at the minimum. Since you’ll never need a 30in draw anyway I would only get it if you can get the 2 cam setup.
Wondering if you could gear towards women? I noticed you coach a female target shooter and TH-cam is extremely lacking in female reviewers or Male reviewers that will talk about the female end of hunting and target bows... which sucks. Really enjoy your channel, thanks for all you do. Smiles and blessings...
That's a great idea actually. They make almost every bow I review in a 50lb model, i just don't usually have many in stock to review to display the speed. That new Mathews VXR 28 would be an awesome option for a female shooter. Lisa ( the shop owner) is going to shoot one this year
@@InsideOutPrecision thank you for responding so quickly! I would live to try it... sadly NO ONE here in my area carries these bows for my draw length and weight either. Would you mind telling me what your student uses? I really like the way the bow seems to shoot when I watch her. I'm willing to try any recommendations but sadly unless I order one I can't try before I buy and I'm gonna drop some serious money for a bow but I can't buy one of each just to try it. I won't buy a bow I can't feel the draw and feel of first, I'm sure you wouldn't either. It's sad because obviously women do archery but noone caters to them in their shops. I may be able to pull 50lbs one day but not now. I've had shop owner try to "help" me pull a bow to try at 50lbs and there's no way to get the true feel of the draw that way. Otherwise my options are kids bows. Very frustrating. I'll try to find that Matthews to test but I doubt they have one set up for me. Again I really appreciate your response. I'm subscribed and a fan...
@@hisimagenme Maya shoots the Hoyt ProForce FX. It's more of a target specific model, but would make a good hunting bow. On the mathews they should be able to put the 60lb mods on it and then back it off to like 30lbs
@@InsideOutPrecision
Thank you! Hoyt will be here at an archery shop on the 19th... though they don't have a phone number I've filled out their contact form requesting they reach me before they come so I can ask for specific models and set up for my range. Hoping they'll get back to me. I've already called about the Mathews and no one carries that bow with the mods for my set up. 😔. Hopeful that someone can get back to me as I've sent out a help message on several forums for good archery shops with pros within a 200 mile radius of me where I can get the help I need. I'm in Albuquerque NM. Really appreciate you time... thank you.
Aww
I’m interested in the alpha axius the most I gotta get to my dealer and shoot some new bows
i was onboard until i looked it up, that 2200 msrp WOW just imagine the total once its rigged .
Yeah but no one will sell them for that much. We sell them for 1599
@@InsideOutPrecision btw love your channel keep up the good work!
@@InsideOutPrecision I have a question since I like the amount of knowledge you possess probability more than any shop in my state I have a 6 year old that I want to introduce to archery this Christmas and I want a bow that he can grow with but I have no idea what to get for a 6 year old turning 7 in march
@@JEHAB1 at that age the key keeping it simple. I'd get a Mini Genesis bow for now, they can both shoot for the next 3 years or so and they're under $200. You can add a sight and and use a release with it after they are ready for that, but to start just keep it simple and let them shoot it with fingers at like 5-10 yds. Sometimes it's hard for them to keep the arrow on the little flipper rest, so adding a whisker biscuit can make life easier. Way to start them young though! Good luck, man.
@@InsideOutPrecision thanks so much 👍
Just like 28" triax the peep will 5 + " away from your eye.....none of 2020 bows have changed much
Does the turbo RX-4 come left handed
Yes
Prime reviews?
really loving the content...definitely got a sub from me :)
plz turbo rewiev
We have one. It's the helix turbo, but it's the exact smar speeds as the rx4 turbo. It's just an aluminium riser instead of carbon
Yer darn right we’ll call it 420 maaaan😄
Wow Hoyt copied the CC2 Mathews Cams in shape and draw stops.
70lbs looked like it gave you a little trouble hahaha great vid man thank you
Haha yeah I'm left handed so drawing 70 right handed looks a bit ridiculous
Inside Out Precision that makes perfect sense. I tried 82lb left handed. Should felt as if it was pulling away from the
Muscle
Over $2000 bare bones. The bow sounds awesome but damn.
Nah we sell them for $1599
Ya you can get it for way cheaper than that
Go Mathews
好弓，喜欢
虽然听不懂
" Marketing" at it's finest. Don't fall for it. There are much better choices at much lower prices.