A very nice video. It is inspirational to see how competition and need drove technological innovation and continual improvement. Unfortunately, as competition gets lost, our greatest minds also seem to lose the motivation to really stretch their legs and show what they can do. The _QM2_ showcases many technological innovations that would have made the likes of William Gibbs, designer of _SS America_ and _SS United States_ salivate even in his day. I do wonder what will replace _QM2_ when she is eventually retired, to accommodate those who, for their own reasons, prefer to sail over flying over the Atlantic. Will such a ship also be a technological marvel? Or will _QM2_ be the last of the breed, the greyhounds of the ocean?
I appreciate the feedback🙌. I’ve also wondered what could possibly replace QM2 in the future. Innovations such as making her propellers pull her through the ocean instead of pushing her are things that would’ve baffled ship designers a hundred years ago. However, I do think that there will always be people who would want to keep the glory of the ocean liner alive. This should eventually lead to the creation a future ship that would cater to individuals who want to get a glimpse of this bygone era. But for now, I hope QM2 goes on to have a long and fruitful career. We can’t possibly predict what’s going to happen, but only time will tell.
@@nboceanlinerhistory So basicly it was just a Temporary Myth that The Titanic was going to be the biggest Ship, but there would eventually would be bigger Ships. and Titanic is just a Historic tragedy.
@@jc9373 Yes indeed, in fact she would be superseded in size only a year after she sank by the SS Imperator. Had she not have sunken, she would’ve likely been forgotten as ships got much larger. However, Titanic still ranks about 17th or 18th place in the list of largest ocean liners in history. RMS Olympic would technically rank higher thank Titanic thanks to her 1913 refit.
Thanks I was looking for this list. Anyway It would be great to make a longer list of the largest ocean liners- like top 50 largest I would really appreciate it!
@@mpmartincity3eah QE2 had surprised me as well as SS United States and SS France are both longer than QE2. However, SS France’s refit into a cruise ship made it larger than QE2 by at least 5,000 tons.
HMHS Britannic: simply hero, even if unsung. There were many similar silent heroes, no matter of which size, with dedicated crews doing their best for what they considered important or dear. 'Europa' came from Hamburg. Tested roughly by fires, she survived against the odds to become useful both to NDL and to CGT. Bremen came from... Bremen!
I'm proud to brag I sailed on the 4 largest of the old liners in late 60s - early 70s, at the very end of service(I was age 6 - 9). Even got to hold the United States' wheel 1 hr @ 35 knots(40.2 MPH, 70 KPH) ... it's all unforgettable
@@nboceanlinerhistory thx 🙏 I just subbed 🙂. I guess I was lucky, my rents were rich & famous (I'm not and dont wish to be) but honestly all that travel as a young kid meant I never had friends, so , was I all that lucky ... 🤔
Sorry, but you are incorrect. The Largest room afloat was the Queen Mary's first class dining room. While the Normandie's dining room was quite a bit longer, the room was substantially narrower. Overall dimensions of both rooms are: NORMANDIE: 305' length x 46' width highest ceiling point 25'. QUEEN MARY: 143' length x 118' width. Highese ceiling point 27'. Total Sq Ft: NORMANDIE: 14030. QUEEN MARY: 16874. Figures supplied by "The Shipbuilder".
I would like to counter your statement by explaining why Normandie’s dining room was larger than Queen Mary’s. First here’s what I found on Queen Mary’s dining room: According to “Sterling”, “The overall length of the apartment is about 143ft…The apartment occupies the full width of the deck, and is surmounted by a large dome, extending through two 'tween decks, and giving a height at the central part of about 27ft. Beyond the lines of the columns, the dome is confined to the ceiling in this region being about 17ft. 6 in, while at the boundaries beyond the dome the height is about 10ft. 6in” The confined ceiling regions reduce the overall volume of Queen Mary’s First Class dining room by a large amount. While Normandie’s dining room did have a smaller square footage, the ceiling height is not reduced which gives this room a larger volume. Normandie’s dining room is also commonly referred to as the largest room afloat at the time.
@@crankyoldguy2When comparing two 3D shapes, the shape with the larger volume is considered “larger”. In the case of Queen Mary and Normandie’s dining rooms, yes Queen Mary’s had a larger square footage but Normandie’s dining room quite literally had more space in it. Thus Normandie’s dining room was larger. The internet also continues to claim that Normandie’s dining room was the “largest” room afloat at the time.
2:47 SS Europa was not a “Nazi Superliner” but conceived and launched in the period of the Weimar Republic. Nazis came to power 3 years after her and her sister “Bremen”’s getting into service.
While Bremen and Europa were never conceived as Nazi liners, they certainly had their role supporting the Nazi regime. In a bid to retain foreign clients and to polish Germany’s image as a modern, moderate state, it was the expressed policy of German shipping lines to downplay Nazism. The swastika flag fluttered from the bowsprit of the Bremen and she was the sight of many protests against Nazism as tensions rose in Europe. In a sense, Bremen and Europa were heavily involved with the Nazi’s as a symbol of their modern merchant fleet. This is why I consider them “Nazi” liners.
@@nboceanlinerhistory Thanks for your reply, however I think you are a little too blatantly reducing the role and importance of this vessel to a single period of her life, whereas Europa was conceived in the spirit of Weimar democracy and ended her career as France's flagship. By the way, the fate of her sister Bremen was much more symbolically important for the Nazis.
@@hmhparis1904 You have a point there. It isn’t fair to completely reduce Europa’s career as a simple “Nazi” liner as she did have about 3 years of service before falling into the hands of the Nazi regime. But as the “Europa”, she did spend the majority of her time under Nazi control. And of course she would have a long and fruitful career as the french liner Liberté. However, I do sometimes hear Bremen and Europa referred to as “Nazi” liners in some old footage. But in the end, what do I know. I’m not a historian. Also thanks for debating with me!
@@riversword2660 She was NEVER given the honorific "RMS". She was "SS" and later "MV" Queen Elizabeth 2, no matter how hard her (sadly mistaken) fans wish had been... Sorry, that's the truth.
@@martynmiller4247 Oh, I get it. So she’s commonly referred to with an “RMS” (even by official Cunard postcards) but she’s officially SS/MV Queen Elizabeth 2
@@riversword2660 Thank you for your reply :-) . My understanding is that Cunard declined the "RMS" in the late 60s as being too "old fashioned" for their space-aged QE2, they wanted to break with tradition (in more ways than just this of course). But Cunard jumped at the honorific for QM2, when it was offered by Royal Mail as a tribute to Cunard's long history (and "tradition" was fashioable again). Whether QM2 carries any mail is another question. I've seen the Royal Mail pennant flying on a few transatlantic crossings, and an officer told me that she carries a few token mails. But I've also read that she never carries letters, that the title is purely symbolic. Best woshes to you :-)
early 60s jet plane travel across the Atlantic was introduced, which took more and more passengers off the ocean liners. Before jets ppl preferred ships, propeller planes took like 14 hrs and were horribly noisy and uncomfortable. Source: my parents. PS I traveled on 3 of these ships very young, at the very end of their service
Nice video, but it was actually the RMS Queen Elizabeth who got the "grey ghost" name when she sailed pass the lighthouse-ship out in NY harbor a foggy morning ... no one knew she was coming and the lighthouse keeper stated when he went out to check out what this rumbling sound was : she came out of the fog like "a grey ghost"... :)
@@YoriichiTsugikuni-t1s Remember Queen Elizabeth did not have the Qunard painting when she left Europe to the US, so why should the QM get that nick... Just saying 🙂
I messed up and had a repeated word. So I went back and tried to remove it but the best I could do was add a blur. Theres quite a few other mistakes like how I completely misspelled Blue “Riband”. But I had already uploaded the video so I left it like that.
Yeah he was the youngest person ever executed in Germany at the time. “The Gestapo initially suspected that British intelligence had a hand in the destruction of the Bremen, but before long the investigation fell upon a 15-year-old deckhand from the Bremen, Walter Schmidt, who eventually confessed to having set the fire in revenge for a clip on the ear given him by a supervisor. Wartime justice was swift and severe. Schmidt was executed.” - Earl of Cruise
It's nice to go onto your long form videos and see good comments, because on your shorts the comments are all; "Why no mention Titanic 😡😡😡😡😡😡, Titanic big best cruise ship and is jack and rose 😍 you should mention it" Like I appreciate that Titanic has gotten them into oceanliners, but could somebody actually teach them stuff?
I've never given it any thought until now but the Imperator-class liners were, in a sense, transgender; They were created as "he" and eventually became "she" when operated by a different country under a totally new name and "gender."
Its rather interesting since Kaiser Wilhelm II had great pride in these vessels and insisted that they be referred to as male. While this was never fully confirmed, they would indeed change gender under new ownership. The Imperator-class would serve the majority of their lives being referred to as females.
A very nice video. It is inspirational to see how competition and need drove technological innovation and continual improvement. Unfortunately, as competition gets lost, our greatest minds also seem to lose the motivation to really stretch their legs and show what they can do. The _QM2_ showcases many technological innovations that would have made the likes of William Gibbs, designer of _SS America_ and _SS United States_ salivate even in his day.
I do wonder what will replace _QM2_ when she is eventually retired, to accommodate those who, for their own reasons, prefer to sail over flying over the Atlantic. Will such a ship also be a technological marvel? Or will _QM2_ be the last of the breed, the greyhounds of the ocean?
I appreciate the feedback🙌. I’ve also wondered what could possibly replace QM2 in the future.
Innovations such as making her propellers pull her through the ocean instead of pushing her are things that would’ve baffled ship designers a hundred years ago.
However, I do think that there will always be people who would want to keep the glory of the ocean liner alive. This should eventually lead to the creation a future ship that would cater to individuals who want to get a glimpse of this bygone era.
But for now, I hope QM2 goes on to have a long and fruitful career. We can’t possibly predict what’s going to happen, but only time will tell.
@@nboceanlinerhistory So basicly it was just a Temporary Myth that The Titanic was going to be the biggest Ship, but there would eventually would be bigger Ships. and Titanic is just a Historic tragedy.
@@jc9373 Yes indeed, in fact she would be superseded in size only a year after she sank by the SS Imperator. Had she not have sunken, she would’ve likely been forgotten as ships got much larger. However, Titanic still ranks about 17th or 18th place in the list of largest ocean liners in history. RMS Olympic would technically rank higher thank Titanic thanks to her 1913 refit.
I think QM2 will be the last ocean liner, there is a reason cunards most recent ship is a cruise ship
You work so hard on your videos you deserve more subscribers
Thanks I was looking for this list. Anyway It would be great to make a longer list of the largest ocean liners- like top 50 largest I would really appreciate it!
Also it is quite interesting to see that QE2 is actually larger than ss United Stated, and even ss France!!
It surely would be great. It’ll definitely be a much longer video but it’s possible. Thanks for the suggestion!
@@mpmartincity3eah QE2 had surprised me as well as SS United States and SS France are both longer than QE2. However, SS France’s refit into a cruise ship made it larger than QE2 by at least 5,000 tons.
@@mpmartincity3I’m pretty sure qe2 is shorter then france by 100-50 meters, tho I’m not sure the exact number
HMHS Britannic: simply hero, even if unsung. There were many similar silent heroes, no matter of which size, with dedicated crews doing their best for what they considered important or dear. 'Europa' came from Hamburg. Tested roughly by fires, she survived against the odds to become useful both to NDL and to CGT. Bremen came from... Bremen!
Very lovely. Great pics used. The art was brilliant. Many S. Card paintings. ❤️❤️
Brilliant work. Truly these ocean liners are a testament to humanity's greatest abilities. ✌🏻🇺🇸🚢
Thanks! I appreciate it. And yes indeed. They were once the pinnacle of technology.
Wonderful video. The RMS Queen Mary is a beautiful sight to see. I practically lived on the ship back in the 70s, docked at port of Long Beach.
I'm proud to brag I sailed on the 4 largest of the old liners in late 60s - early 70s, at the very end of service(I was age 6 - 9). Even got to hold the United States' wheel 1 hr @ 35 knots(40.2 MPH, 70 KPH) ... it's all unforgettable
That is absolutely amazing. Your a very lucky individual!
@@nboceanlinerhistory thx 🙏 I just subbed 🙂. I guess I was lucky, my rents were rich & famous (I'm not and dont wish to be) but honestly all that travel as a young kid meant I never had friends, so , was I all that lucky ... 🤔
SS REX🚢
SS Rex 🇮🇹
Sorry, but you are incorrect. The Largest room afloat was the Queen Mary's first class dining room. While the Normandie's dining room was quite a bit longer, the room was substantially narrower. Overall dimensions of both rooms are: NORMANDIE: 305' length x 46' width highest ceiling point 25'. QUEEN MARY: 143' length x 118' width. Highese ceiling point 27'. Total Sq Ft: NORMANDIE: 14030. QUEEN MARY: 16874. Figures supplied by "The Shipbuilder".
I would like to counter your statement by explaining why Normandie’s dining room was larger than Queen Mary’s. First here’s what I found on Queen Mary’s dining room: According to “Sterling”, “The overall length of the apartment is about 143ft…The apartment occupies the full width of the deck, and is surmounted by a large dome, extending through two 'tween decks, and giving a height at the central part of about 27ft. Beyond the lines of the columns, the dome is confined to the ceiling in this region being about 17ft. 6 in, while at the boundaries beyond the dome the height is about 10ft. 6in” The confined ceiling regions reduce the overall volume of Queen Mary’s First Class dining room by a large amount. While Normandie’s dining room did have a smaller square footage, the ceiling height is not reduced which gives this room a larger volume. Normandie’s dining room is also commonly referred to as the largest room afloat at the time.
@@nboceanlinerhistory The point isn't the volume, but the square footage in the floor plan.
@@crankyoldguy2When comparing two 3D shapes, the shape with the larger volume is considered “larger”. In the case of Queen Mary and Normandie’s dining rooms, yes Queen Mary’s had a larger square footage but Normandie’s dining room quite literally had more space in it. Thus Normandie’s dining room was larger. The internet also continues to claim that Normandie’s dining room was the “largest” room afloat at the time.
2:47 SS Europa was not a “Nazi Superliner” but conceived and launched in the period of the Weimar Republic. Nazis came to power 3 years after her and her sister “Bremen”’s getting into service.
While Bremen and Europa were never conceived as Nazi liners, they certainly had their role supporting the Nazi regime. In a bid to retain foreign clients and to polish Germany’s image as a modern, moderate state, it was the expressed policy of German shipping lines to downplay Nazism. The swastika flag fluttered from the bowsprit of the Bremen and she was the sight of many protests against Nazism as tensions rose in Europe. In a sense, Bremen and Europa were heavily involved with the Nazi’s as a symbol of their modern merchant fleet. This is why I consider them “Nazi” liners.
@@nboceanlinerhistory Thanks for your reply, however I think you are a little too blatantly reducing the role and importance of this vessel to a single period of her life, whereas Europa was conceived in the spirit of Weimar democracy and ended her career as France's flagship. By the way, the fate of her sister Bremen was much more symbolically important for the Nazis.
@@hmhparis1904 You have a point there. It isn’t fair to completely reduce Europa’s career as a simple “Nazi” liner as she did have about 3 years of service before falling into the hands of the Nazi regime. But as the “Europa”, she did spend the majority of her time under Nazi control. And of course she would have a long and fruitful career as the french liner Liberté. However, I do sometimes hear Bremen and Europa referred to as “Nazi” liners in some old footage. But in the end, what do I know. I’m not a historian. Also thanks for debating with me!
27:24 I’m pretty sure they scrapped some parts and built a pier over her wreck
15:19 to 16:47. SS/MS Queen Elizabeth 2, my favorite ocean liner of all time.
Just a correction, but she’s actually named “RMS Queen Elizabeth 2”, not SS or MS.
@@riversword2660 She was NEVER given the honorific "RMS". She was "SS" and later "MV" Queen Elizabeth 2, no matter how hard her (sadly mistaken) fans wish had been... Sorry, that's the truth.
@@martynmiller4247 Oh, I get it. So she’s commonly referred to with an “RMS” (even by official Cunard postcards) but she’s officially
SS/MV Queen Elizabeth 2
@@riversword2660 Thank you for your reply :-) . My understanding is that Cunard declined the "RMS" in the late 60s as being too "old fashioned" for their space-aged QE2, they wanted to break with tradition (in more ways than just this of course). But Cunard jumped at the honorific for QM2, when it was offered by Royal Mail as a tribute to Cunard's long history (and "tradition" was fashioable again). Whether QM2 carries any mail is another question. I've seen the Royal Mail pennant flying on a few transatlantic crossings, and an officer told me that she carries a few token mails. But I've also read that she never carries letters, that the title is purely symbolic. Best woshes to you :-)
Please excuse the typos above, thank you.
Fun fact: when the britannic nickname is mentioned patroness of the mediterranean appears the game of the patronnes of the meditarranean
It was true back in 1913 that imperator was the first liner to surpass titanics size.
What is the jet thing you said
early 60s jet plane travel across the Atlantic was introduced, which took more and more passengers off the ocean liners. Before jets ppl preferred ships, propeller planes took like 14 hrs and were horribly noisy and uncomfortable. Source: my parents. PS I traveled on 3 of these ships very young, at the very end of their service
the largest ship in first world war was a HMHS aquitania
You are completely wrong. USS Leviathan was by far the largest ship in the first World War. It was 54,000 tons compared to Aquitania’s 45,000 tons.
Because of the misspelling of blue riband I thought the ships get a blue ribbon on the ship 😅
Nice video, but it was actually the RMS Queen Elizabeth who got the "grey ghost" name when she sailed pass the lighthouse-ship out in NY harbor a foggy morning ... no one knew she was coming and the lighthouse keeper stated when he went out to check out what this rumbling sound was : she came out of the fog like "a grey ghost"... :)
Omg do not know anything about ocean liners QM got the name not QE but if they did call QE the Grey ghost QM got the name before her
@@YoriichiTsugikuni-t1s Remember Queen Elizabeth did not have the Qunard painting when she left Europe to the US, so why should the QM get that nick... Just saying 🙂
I always thought the fastest Atlantic crossing was awarded "The Blue Riband"......... ?
What is up with the blurred word at 14:13
OMGG PAGMOB
@@MrMartime2009 PAGMOB
I messed up and had a repeated word. So I went back and tried to remove it but the best I could do was add a blur. Theres quite a few other mistakes like how I completely misspelled Blue “Riband”. But I had already uploaded the video so I left it like that.
@@nboceanlinerhistory ah its fine!
What was the word that was censored at 14:13
It was a mistake where I repeated a word and blurring the word was the best I could do without re uploading the video.
First time I ever saw a ship being scrapped in a video.
There are many videos of liners being scrapped on British Pathe. You should definitely check those videos out!
Speed record designated as blue riband holder
Yeah I realized that I misspelled Blue Riband throughout the entire video. I apologize for that.
I don’t care, the video is too good
9:07 what is song
Would love to know what they did to SS United States that allowed her to capture the Blue Ribband using only 2/3 of her shaft hp.
NO, DONT YOU DARE!
I’d estimate 40/42 knots was her top speed, as 1/3 or 35(I think was her service speed) knots is about 7.5 knots, but that’s just an estimate.
Sadly Normandie was caught on fire
that boy is a chad for setting that entire ship on fire after what the germans did to him
Yeah he was the youngest person ever executed in Germany at the time. “The Gestapo initially suspected that British intelligence had a hand in the destruction of the Bremen, but before long the investigation fell upon a 15-year-old deckhand from the Bremen, Walter Schmidt, who eventually confessed to having set the fire in revenge for a clip on the ear given him by a supervisor. Wartime justice was swift and severe. Schmidt was executed.” - Earl of Cruise
(For those who don’t know, the Gestapo at the time was the Jewish police in Europe I believe)
Wait! Imperator class ships are males?! That is so cool!
But sadly they have to become females 😢
The ss france was more longer than rms queen elizabeth
It's nice to go onto your long form videos and see good comments, because on your shorts the comments are all;
"Why no mention Titanic 😡😡😡😡😡😡, Titanic big best cruise ship and is jack and rose 😍 you should mention it"
Like I appreciate that Titanic has gotten them into oceanliners, but could somebody actually teach them stuff?
Wow ! I love the the ship United states
Will the SS United States be saved, and restored? She cant die, she's royalty.
I really hope she finds a new life in some way or another. She truly is the queen of the U.S. Merchant Fleet!
The QM2 Is the largest you missed that
QM2 is clearly shown as the largest liner. Looks like someone didn’t look through the whole video.
@@nboceanlinerhistory shut up
27:28 do you even watch the video 😐
@@nboceanlinerhistory BRUH SHUT UP!
@@ShipVSAnimator Who are you talking about?
*Blue Riband
Yeah I realized that I misspelled “Blue Riband” throughout the entire video after I posted it. My apologies
NB Ocean Liner History, there are several incorrect informations that I noticed. Otherwise video is OK.
Could you please point out this incorrect information?
@@nboceanlinerhistory. I do not have a time to focus on those again. You can leave them as it is.
Unbelievable how anyone would bomb a cruise ship!!!
It wasn’t a cruise ship but its still unbelievable nonetheless. Such beauty gone up in flames during a war.
Happened alot in the 20th century so you’ll find out more of them 🤷♂️
ocean liners are not cruise ships -.-
The ss united states what name song
September 11 it got bombed.
I've never given it any thought until now but the Imperator-class liners were, in a sense, transgender; They were created as "he" and eventually became "she" when operated by a different country under a totally new name and "gender."
Its rather interesting since Kaiser Wilhelm II had great pride in these vessels and insisted that they be referred to as male. While this was never fully confirmed, they would indeed change gender under new ownership. The Imperator-class would serve the majority of their lives being referred to as females.
While I appreciate the much justified struggle against woke bigotry, I should point out that ships are traditionally feminine (apart from Bismarck).
cool story bro
The captions are taken down soooo fast that I can't read them. Consequently I stopped watching very early on and didn't hit the like button.
I can’t determine how fast everyone can read them. I apologize for that.
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