I really admire you for the very transparent and open way you discuss and explain in length that you were sent the tent. Too many TH-camrs are devious about the so-called gifts they receive from suppliers. So well done Richard, well done!
Thanks Phil. I think it’s really important to be clear with any possible influences on the review so it’s fair on the viewers. As a consumer I have no issues with review units or even paid for reviews and spotlights, but I would question the bias of the reviewer if that wasn’t made clear
@@RichardCheng I am with you - no issues with people being sent kit to review they keep or are paid to review. Just need to be like you - open and transparent. I immediately unsubscribe from youtubers who review/recommend kit when to me it is obvious they have been supplied and don't mention this or in the small print say 'unsolicited gift'. There are too many around these days sadly.
thank youuu, really helpful, I have to say out of the 6 videos I have watched reviewing this tent, yours is the best, because you share information based on what you have really tried with the tent, not just reading the parameters
Your door setup is genius. I had the older lanshan and the condensation was a real issue. I have just bought but not used the pro yet. I will be doing that door trick. Thank you.
This was an excellent review. Thanks for the transparency, although the time you spent in putting this video together is just due that the company would comp your product. I’ve used the Lanshan 2 Pro for a couple years now with two long distance hikes on the JMT. I like the smaller footprint that the 1 Pro takes, enabling the backpacker to set camp in more tight areas, and also save a few ounces of weight. I hope to purchase the 1 Pro before summer.
Great review from someone who actually used the tent for a long time! Especially the various door-setup options are something I haven't seen in any other review. I ordered mine a few days ago, looking forward to testing it :D
Hey :-) Great to see you again Richard. As always , your reviews are always so flawlessly delivered* It' sounds as if you have found your perfect tent* That's exciting to hear you have been holidaying in the Andes* You tube hasn't been sending me your notifications ( this post came up in an algorythm ). I have pressed " all notifications " Again - in a hope this might solve the issue. Thank you for taking the time to share & will do a little catching up on your posts* Sending best & well wishes*
Thanks Mario. It takes a while to ‘dial in’ backpacking gear, and if you keep your tent in good condition you should be able to sell it second hand and recover most of what you originally paid 😄
Dear Richard, thx for your reviews. Based on your mentioned comparison video, I decided to buy exactely this tent and was Happy with it for my 5 days including rain on the kungsleden. Only Problem i had was pitchting it at a really tough storm left out in the open. Except for that I 100 percent agree with your review. I also bought that Backpack you reviewed and love it. Keep up the good work with your videos and all the best to you
Thank you very much. When the wind is really heavy I prefer pitching the back of the tent into the wind, and tie additional guy lines to the tent for extra support. The trekking pole shakes a bit in my experience, but it gets me through the night!
@@RichardCheng Oh, and sorry for the somewhat offtopic question but I hope to get some form of realistic answer from an experienced hiker who has been to Scotland multiple times (?). I'm currently thinking about hiking somewhere in october or november for like 5 days. Would you say that the west highland way would be a good choice for october? I couldnt stand the amount of moskitos in Sweden during summer, but know that at some point must see scotland, so october doesnt seem so bad. However weatherwise.... not so sure? I would be glad to get a short feedback. BR and thx again :)
West Highland Way in October should be fine weather for hiking - the midge should be gone by then. However October is out of the tourist season, so if you’re relying on shops, cafes, restaurants along the way they may have reduced opening hours, or is shut altogether. On the other hand, October means Loch Lomond camping restrictions are not in effect, so it’ll make Drymen to Crianlariach easier to plan
@@RichardCheng Great thanks. I didnt know that camping is restricted for such a long part of the tour... I need to do some homework ;) but actually this sounds perfect, because I enjoy the idea of wild camping as shown in some of your videos & how I did it on Kungsleden. Foodwise I would plan to travel 75% self sufficient. Meaning I have food for a couple of days but would like to resupply maybe once or twice.
Great review Richard. I recently went hiking and was able to see the Lanshan 1 PRO up close. I was surprised how roomy it was and how easy it is to setup. Very lightweight and a great looking tent. I almost purchased one based on your previous reviews but in the end I went with the double-walled X-Mid 1P by Dan Durston. We have a lot of humidity in the woods and along the coast in the Maritime provinces here in Canada. I was fearful the condensation would be too much to manage for our climate and the X-Mid seemed like the best bang for your buck for a double-walled backpacking tent. I very much enjoy your reviews and hikes. Best wishes!
Hi Richard, just found your channel and been enjoying your no nonsense reviews. I've just purchased the Lanshan 1 Pro and and am looking forward to some wild camping in the spring here in Sydney. I noticed you stuffing the Lanshan back into it's sack at the end of the video, just wondering how you deal with the ventilation band, just fold it in half? Cheers Mark.
Hi Mark, thanks. I just stuff the entire tent into it’s stuff sack. Most of the time that means the ventilation band is bent in some way, but even 2 years later it’s still in brilliant condition and is stiff
I'm not an expert in tents but I also like this one very much. I'm 1m87 and its length is ok as long as i use a thin sleeping pad. Not the best tent for wet cold weather in winter because of the condensation, but it's not its main purpose.
Hi Richard. Very much enjoyed your review of the 3F Lanshan 1 Pro. Do you know of any Chinese knock offs that use cuban fiber to save weight. Thanks, Bigbee
Hi and greetings from Argentina. Great review, thanks a lot. My only concern is that I'm 6'3" and I am not quite sure if I would fit alright, what do you think? Thanks for your time, I really appreciatted.
@@RichardChengThanks a lot for your time, Richard. I am also seaching for a budget light backpack in the range of 50-60 l. You have a few videos about backpacks, but if I'm not mistaken there are in the 40 l area. So, any advice would be very much appreciated!
Thank you for the great review. Could you tell me how small it is while packed? I found some very different packing sizes, one resulted in a volume of 2l, the other 6l. I found similar tents having a volume of 2,5l so around that would be great
Thanks Martina. It’s a silnylon tent so it’s susceptible to sag because of its material. If you pitch it taught it helps with keeping the shape. When it rains, I sometimes tighten the tent once if I’m heading out of the tent anyway, and it keeps its shape for the rest of the night
Saw that you used it in the Peruvian Andes. Is the 1 pro 4 season? Suitable for cold, windy or even snowy conditions, like say, trekking in Nepal? Cheers.
My tent is seam sealed using SilNet. The designs are very similar being a single trekking pole tent - many manufacturers including ZPacks also have similar designs
You had both 1 (210cm) and now the 1 pro... I understand both produce condensation, but doesnt the nylon mesh room prevent it from splashing over you ??? I dont own any of the two, but just looking at both, it seens those much smaller gaps around the bath tub (thin mesh between the fly and bath tub) at the pro version will cause much more condensation due to limited air flow (??)... Im asking because now lanshan has a model with has both double wall AND pro size (230cm...), so it seens a better buy than the pro version, it has the best at both ends,,, or not ?? thank you ;)
The pro has more condensation that the double walled one, but I prefer it because it’s bigger and I can manage the condensation by opening the fly sheet I think the plus version will be a good option if you’re worried about condensation, at the cost of size and weight
@@RichardCheng Perhaps 'Pro' is for experienced hikers who don't mind having to wipe off the condensation. And I'm sure it is easier and faster to pitch. But I think most people should be very careful buying a single wall tent. If it is wet and cold and you touch the fabric with your clean t-shirt or sleeping bag you have a problem. The extra space to move isn't really there. Condensation and wind is even worse. The other advantage of the double wall version is you can use the fly and inner separately. For example the Lanshan inner with a much bigger teepee tent. Of course you had both so if you prefer the Pro version then I guess it is an upgrade.
Yes the single wall does have its trade offs. I personally find the condensation very manageable, especially where I use a synthetic quilt so I don’t worry about dampness at all, so it’s a trade off I’m happy to take
@@RichardCheng I can imagine that for you the single wall is more practical. Quicker to pitch, more space if the fly isn't too wet. And it gives a fun feeling to have that super thin fabric between you and the elements. Dyneema probably has that that even more as you can see through it! It may be the only single wall fabric of my choice. Doesn't stretch or absorb water. Not that I have the money!! I'm just trying to warn people that is may not be for everyone. Tents are double wall for a reason. I've seen them come back from single to double wall. Make sure single wall is what you want! BTW the Lanshan with 230cm inner is also sold as Flame's Creed Lanshan. In winter you can use it with a 4-season inner. Another plus of double wall. No matter how you pitch a Lanshan, it always has that large gap at the front. Especially hikers in the UK often complain about the wind.
Hey Garry, I’d do with the 2 Pro out of caution. Because the Lanshan 1 series have sloped sides, the maximum height is very dependent on your mat and sleeping style. On a thin mat and sleeping diagonally I think 190cm may be okay, but more room at a slight weight penalty isn’t the worst trade off in my opinion!
I really admire you for the very transparent and open way you discuss and explain in length that you were sent the tent. Too many TH-camrs are devious about the so-called gifts they receive from suppliers. So well done Richard, well done!
Thanks Phil. I think it’s really important to be clear with any possible influences on the review so it’s fair on the viewers.
As a consumer I have no issues with review units or even paid for reviews and spotlights, but I would question the bias of the reviewer if that wasn’t made clear
@@RichardCheng I am with you - no issues with people being sent kit to review they keep or are paid to review. Just need to be like you - open and transparent. I immediately unsubscribe from youtubers who review/recommend kit when to me it is obvious they have been supplied and don't mention this or in the small print say 'unsolicited gift'. There are too many around these days sadly.
The only reason I'm convinced to buy this tent is because of your video two years ago.
Great tent, and lightweight.
Thanks. 🙏
I’m really glad to hear that Mohammad, good to hear that you like it
thank youuu, really helpful, I have to say out of the 6 videos I have watched reviewing this tent, yours is the best, because you share information based on what you have really tried with the tent, not just reading the parameters
Thank you so much, I’m glad it’s helped you!
Couldn't agree more... thx for your review. I like the door options you demonstrated! I used mine on the Great Divide Trail in Alberta, Canada.
Thank you Paul!
Thank you! Very help info! 😊
Love 3F, obviously the company took a lot of pride and effort to bring to us these great value & quality products! ❤
No probs!
Your door setup is genius. I had the older lanshan and the condensation was a real issue. I have just bought but not used the pro yet. I will be doing that door trick. Thank you.
Thanks - it mimics the set up of similar tarp tents such as the MLD cricket
This was an excellent review. Thanks for the transparency, although the time you spent in putting this video together is just due that the company would comp your product. I’ve used the Lanshan 2 Pro for a couple years now with two long distance hikes on the JMT. I like the smaller footprint that the 1 Pro takes, enabling the backpacker to set camp in more tight areas, and also save a few ounces of weight. I hope to purchase the 1 Pro before summer.
I don’t have the Lanshan 2 Pro, but I am very tempted by it for taking my four legged friend out camping - both versions are excellent in my opinion
Great review from someone who actually used the tent for a long time! Especially the various door-setup options are something I haven't seen in any other review. I ordered mine a few days ago, looking forward to testing it :D
Thank you very much - I hope you enjoy it as much as I do
Good, honest review.l've got this tent and considering the price, have no complaints. Robust, and more room than other one person tents.
Thank Mike. Yes it’s a brilliant one person tent with ample room
Hey :-) Great to see you again Richard. As always , your reviews are always so flawlessly delivered* It' sounds as if you have found your perfect tent* That's exciting to hear you have been holidaying in the Andes* You tube hasn't been sending me your notifications ( this post came up in an algorythm ). I have pressed " all notifications " Again - in a hope this might solve the issue. Thank you for taking the time to share & will do a little catching up on your posts* Sending best & well wishes*
Thank you very much. I suspect because of my infrequent uploads, my videos may be de-prioritised by TH-cam. The wonder of the algorithm 🤷
@@RichardCheng :-) *
I should have watched that video before ordering my new (heavy) tent ;) Nice one!
Thanks Mario. It takes a while to ‘dial in’ backpacking gear, and if you keep your tent in good condition you should be able to sell it second hand and recover most of what you originally paid 😄
Dear Richard, thx for your reviews. Based on your mentioned comparison video, I decided to buy exactely this tent and was Happy with it for my 5 days including rain on the kungsleden. Only Problem i had was pitchting it at a really tough storm left out in the open. Except for that I 100 percent agree with your review.
I also bought that Backpack you reviewed and love it.
Keep up the good work with your videos and all the best to you
Thank you very much. When the wind is really heavy I prefer pitching the back of the tent into the wind, and tie additional guy lines to the tent for extra support. The trekking pole shakes a bit in my experience, but it gets me through the night!
@@RichardCheng :-) *
@@RichardCheng Oh, and sorry for the somewhat offtopic question but I hope to get some form of realistic answer from an experienced hiker who has been to Scotland multiple times (?). I'm currently thinking about hiking somewhere in october or november for like 5 days. Would you say that the west highland way would be a good choice for october? I couldnt stand the amount of moskitos in Sweden during summer, but know that at some point must see scotland, so october doesnt seem so bad. However weatherwise.... not so sure? I would be glad to get a short feedback. BR and thx again :)
West Highland Way in October should be fine weather for hiking - the midge should be gone by then. However October is out of the tourist season, so if you’re relying on shops, cafes, restaurants along the way they may have reduced opening hours, or is shut altogether. On the other hand, October means Loch Lomond camping restrictions are not in effect, so it’ll make Drymen to Crianlariach easier to plan
@@RichardCheng Great thanks. I didnt know that camping is restricted for such a long part of the tour... I need to do some homework ;) but actually this sounds perfect, because I enjoy the idea of wild camping as shown in some of your videos & how I did it on Kungsleden. Foodwise I would plan to travel 75% self sufficient. Meaning I have food for a couple of days but would like to resupply maybe once or twice.
I love this video and you're a legend mate! Thanks for sharing the experience. New subscriber.
Thank you so much
Great review Richard. I recently went hiking and was able to see the Lanshan 1 PRO up close. I was surprised how roomy it was and how easy it is to setup. Very lightweight and a great looking tent. I almost purchased one based on your previous reviews but in the end I went with the double-walled X-Mid 1P by Dan Durston. We have a lot of humidity in the woods and along the coast in the Maritime provinces here in Canada. I was fearful the condensation would be too much to manage for our climate and the X-Mid seemed like the best bang for your buck for a double-walled backpacking tent. I very much enjoy your reviews and hikes. Best wishes!
Thanks! the X-Mid is a great double layer tent. I would definitely consider it if I wasn’t so satisfied with my Lanshan 1 Pro
Great content as usual! Love your videos
Thanks Otis
Great video and clever solution to the condensation problem! I am ordering this tent.
Thanks Anton, hope you enjoy it!
Hi Richard, just found your channel and been enjoying your no nonsense reviews. I've just purchased the Lanshan 1 Pro and and am looking forward to some wild camping in the spring here in Sydney. I noticed you stuffing the Lanshan back into it's sack at the end of the video, just wondering how you deal with the ventilation band, just fold it in half? Cheers Mark.
Hi Mark, thanks. I just stuff the entire tent into it’s stuff sack. Most of the time that means the ventilation band is bent in some way, but even 2 years later it’s still in brilliant condition and is stiff
Great informative video, just what I needed. Thank you
Thanks Chris
Thank you for sharing this. Excellent and very useful review.
Thank you Eirik!
Very articulate review!
Thanks Rob!
I'm not an expert in tents but I also like this one very much. I'm 1m87 and its length is ok as long as i use a thin sleeping pad. Not the best tent for wet cold weather in winter because of the condensation, but it's not its main purpose.
Yes it’s a very spacious tent, but the condensation does need to be controlled
Great review, many thanks
Thank you!
Hi Richard. Very much enjoyed your review of the 3F Lanshan 1 Pro. Do you know of any Chinese knock offs that use cuban fiber to save weight. Thanks, Bigbee
Thanks Bigbee. I’m not aware of any Chinese manufacturers selling DCF at prices significantly lower than North American and European counterparts
super review, tank you?
Thank you!
Hi and greetings from Argentina. Great review, thanks a lot. My only concern is that I'm 6'3" and I am not quite sure if I would fit alright, what do you think? Thanks for your time, I really appreciatted.
I think you’ll be okay in the Pro, as long as your mat isn’t super thick!
@@RichardChengThanks a lot for your time, Richard. I am also seaching for a budget light backpack in the range of 50-60 l. You have a few videos about backpacks, but if I'm not mistaken there are in the 40 l area. So, any advice would be very much appreciated!
@g.sebastianpedersen3136 I’d look into Osprey Exos, which come in a variety of sizes, and good comfort for their weight
@@RichardChengThanks a lot again 👍
@RichardCheng Thanks for the review. Do you use or recommend the footprint? It is sold on the side for $35.99
I don’t use the footprint, I use polycro/window insulation instead of
Thank you for the great review. Could you tell me how small it is while packed? I found some very different packing sizes, one resulted in a volume of 2l, the other 6l. I found similar tents having a volume of 2,5l so around that would be great
I’ve not measured the packing size, but I would guess it’s around 2L, possibly less if you cinch it tight using the supplied storage dry bag
Thank you for the review! Is it prone to get saggy in the rain? Or does it maintain its shape even while raining?
Thanks Martina. It’s a silnylon tent so it’s susceptible to sag because of its material. If you pitch it taught it helps with keeping the shape. When it rains, I sometimes tighten the tent once if I’m heading out of the tent anyway, and it keeps its shape for the rest of the night
Any chance you could put an ultralight backpacking chair inside the tent? I am using the REI ultralight backpacking chair.
Should fit, but you might not have much head room
Useful 😊
Thanks!
Thanks for the review. Do you have any experience with their Floating Cloud 1 tent?
Hi, I’m sorry I’ve not used that tent
Yeah boyyyyyy
👋🏻
Saw that you used it in the Peruvian Andes. Is the 1 pro 4 season? Suitable for cold, windy or even snowy conditions, like say, trekking in Nepal? Cheers.
It’s the 3 season version. It was brilliant in Peru in the wind and cold, but I can’t comment how it deals with very snowy conditions
@@RichardCheng Thanks!
I cant see the seam sealer, did you apply any? Isn't this design just copied from Six Moon Designs Lunar Solo?
My tent is seam sealed using SilNet. The designs are very similar being a single trekking pole tent - many manufacturers including ZPacks also have similar designs
You had both 1 (210cm) and now the 1 pro... I understand both produce condensation, but doesnt the nylon mesh room prevent it from splashing over you ??? I dont own any of the two, but just looking at both, it seens those much smaller gaps around the bath tub (thin mesh between the fly and bath tub) at the pro version will cause much more condensation due to limited air flow (??)... Im asking because now lanshan has a model with has both double wall AND pro size (230cm...), so it seens a better buy than the pro version, it has the best at both ends,,, or not ?? thank you ;)
The pro has more condensation that the double walled one, but I prefer it because it’s bigger and I can manage the condensation by opening the fly sheet
I think the plus version will be a good option if you’re worried about condensation, at the cost of size and weight
@@RichardCheng Perhaps 'Pro' is for experienced hikers who don't mind having to wipe off the condensation. And I'm sure it is easier and faster to pitch.
But I think most people should be very careful buying a single wall tent. If it is wet and cold and you touch the fabric with your clean t-shirt or sleeping bag you have a problem. The extra space to move isn't really there. Condensation and wind is even worse.
The other advantage of the double wall version is you can use the fly and inner separately. For example the Lanshan inner with a much bigger teepee tent.
Of course you had both so if you prefer the Pro version then I guess it is an upgrade.
Yes the single wall does have its trade offs. I personally find the condensation very manageable, especially where I use a synthetic quilt so I don’t worry about dampness at all, so it’s a trade off I’m happy to take
@@RichardCheng I can imagine that for you the single wall is more practical. Quicker to pitch, more space if the fly isn't too wet. And it gives a fun feeling to have that super thin fabric between you and the elements. Dyneema probably has that that even more as you can see through it! It may be the only single wall fabric of my choice. Doesn't stretch or absorb water. Not that I have the money!!
I'm just trying to warn people that is may not be for everyone. Tents are double wall for a reason. I've seen them come back from single to double wall. Make sure single wall is what you want!
BTW the Lanshan with 230cm inner is also sold as Flame's Creed Lanshan. In winter you can use it with a 4-season inner. Another plus of double wall. No matter how you pitch a Lanshan, it always has that large gap at the front. Especially hikers in the UK often complain about the wind.
Good review, I am 6ft 3inch (190 cm) , would the 1 pro be long enough or would you lean towards the 3f 2 pro ?
Hey Garry, I’d do with the 2 Pro out of caution. Because the Lanshan 1 series have sloped sides, the maximum height is very dependent on your mat and sleeping style. On a thin mat and sleeping diagonally I think 190cm may be okay, but more room at a slight weight penalty isn’t the worst trade off in my opinion!
@@RichardCheng cheers, I was thinking that, will order one🙂
Hi Richard,
I the mesh size small enough to deal with the dreaded Scottish midge ?! Thanks.
Hey Alan, yes it’s small enough that midge won’t be able to get through
Thanks Richard - think I buy one.
Why don't i ever see anyone pitch this tent in worse conditions than a lawn?
If you see my hiking videos you’ll know it’s capable of handling quite bad weather.
@@RichardCheng ok, I will look there! Thanks.