Red Dead Redemption 2 hardest mission ever (If you playing second time)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ต.ค. 2024
- #rdr If you playing second time this game this mission was tough
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Can you explain?
In this episode, Arthur get tuberculosis from the man lying on the ground and after that slowly tuberculosis kills him
Have to play it yourself
@@andrewrodriguez7382 strongly agree
@@gokoto23damn I never made the connection that he probably got it from Downes…
@@damienm.9677 yeah Arthur even talks to the sister about it
“ I got it beaten a man, to death, for a few bucks
I guess, I'm afraid🥹
The game reallt railroads you with this one...
Besides playing as John being mandatory for some stuff, this is my sole gripe
There should have been multiple ways to get TB, the game absolutely forces you to beat him. If you don't beat him, the game skips to a cutscene acting like you had beat him, forcing you to make a choice that even arthur wouldn't want to do, especially since you never have to beat any of the other debters (the fight with Lily Millet's boyfriend not counting, considering he actively instigates that fight)
Well, Strauss actually tells you that you need to beat him.
Arthur beat him because Strauss told him it needed to happen. It was Arthur’s fault from the beginning, his loyalty. He didn’t like having to beat a man, especially one that was as sick and weak as Downes was, but he’s to loyal not to do what he’s told.
I’ve been replaying this game recently, and I’ve honestly found, that while a lot of people try to find where Dutch changed, the truth is that he never changed. Dutch is a silver-tongued liar and manipulator.
This play through I’ve spent a lot of time at camp, and the whole time you hear Dutch ramble and rant, if you greet him, he actually accuses Arthur of not trusting him or he says something else. I realized just how much of this dialogue and activity was exactly what he does in the later chapters. Dutch never changed, the situations are Arthur and the gang members changed.
A good example of how Dutch twisted the vision of others is when Arthur is co fronted by Milton and Ross, he tells Dutch immediately, and what does Dutch do? He asks, “why didn’t you take the deal.” He says that, yet preaches about loyalty to the gang, about never betraying him or your brothers and sisters.
He guilts you into being undyingly loyal by making it appear as if he would gladly give his life for your’s.
He does the same thing when Milton matches into camp, he acts like he’s going to give himself up, but I feel he knew from the start the gang wouldn’t let them take him. This action only furthers their loyalty, they see Dutch willing give his life for theirs.
This whole game Dutch’s character is an act. I truly don’t think he ever changed, he was always a manipulator and a liar, we just don’t see it until further into the game, when the events happening around us force us to acknowledge the real actions of our beloved hero.
Arthur beating Downes is perfectly within his characters actions because of his loyalty. This same loyalty is the reason he doesn’t leave with Mary, it’s the reason he hates John for leaving when John saw the truth to their ways. It’s the reason that Arthur doesn’t leave himself when given a second chance.
Dutch is a manipulative liar and because of that, when someone is told to do some thing, especially someone like Arthur, who grew up at Dutch’s side, they are guilted into feeling they have no choice but to listen.
Arthur always would have beaten Downes, because he was told to, even if he didn’t agree with it, he would have done it. It’s the very same reason he saves Micah in Strawberry, he was told to do it, and he would never disobey the gang’s orders.
@Volsung84 what is this? A copypasta?
@@spook9155 Nope, my own words.
That’s why their’s so much misspelled words, it was a lot of typing on my phone…
@@spook9155 is it bad or good? I mean, the idea, it’s just something I’d been thinking about recently.
@Volsung84 I don't necessarily think it's the gang changing, Dutch Does change, its the fact he becomes worse at hiding his insanity, he becomes sloppy, like when he tells two contradicting lies for why he killed the old woman in guarma.
He can no longer even keep track of his own lies as he just mindlessly strikes out.
But even still I don't think loyalty is a good reason for why Arthur would beat an innocent man to death.
Especially when Dutch is not the one who tells him to do so, its Strauss.
It is the one part of the story where the choice feels phoned in and forced.
Because it is. You're forced to beat the man to death where in every other situation like it you have the choice not to. Because it isn't in Arthur's character to do such a thing.
It revolts him. He's disgusted by doing such things, even though he has no love for mankind.
Hell, he meets a man who loudly shouted that he recognised Arthur from Blackwater, and knew that this man could potentially give then away to pinkertons, but has the choice to let him go after he gets the message, because Arthur does not like to hurt innocent people. You do not have to hurt Bradbury for the papers for Eagle flies, because he's an innocent person, you don't have to hurt Mr Wroebels, because the threat of violence is enough to get the very little needed to cover the debt.
Arthur knew that Downes didn't have the money. It would have made more sense to the character of Arthur morgan to turn right around, and tell strauss he was a fool, which he does either way.
It would just have been nice for there to be the option. Even if it meant he just got TB from thin air, it would be more in character and believable than forcing the player to beat a man to death.