Was about to start splitting my vtx from my camera for the mullet mod, so glad I came across this, its by far the best solution I've come across! Update: Ended up doing the mod, found that the camera position was to obstructed by the ducted fans. Ended up moving the camera forward until there was a clear view, its still protected just not as much. Also by pushing it forward was able to keep the battery in the original position. The center of balance is off a bit, need to get longer leads for the battery and push it further back . Overall I'm happy with it, going to keep tuning it but better than having the camera on top for sure.
I steal the rubberbands from my girlfriend, they're made to use in hair, and you can find them at Walmart or anywhere. Props: us.banggood.com/Wholesale-Warehouse-Eachine-E010-Blade-Inductrix-Tiny-Whoop-RC-Quadcopter-Spares-Parts-Blades-Propeller-wp-Usa-1079425.html
I am addicted to tiny whoops and have been struggling with a clean camera setup. Practicing soldering, buying irons and magnifying/holders. Have everything to build a "Rambo Whoop" I think that this camera setup is going to work for me. Thanks, D!
I was excited to try this build. Looks great on the video. I tried it and was disappointed only because I am used to the camera view from above as opposed to below the props.. Wish I had seen this prior to becoming used to the other perspective.
Really smart way to benefit from the smaller sized cams! There are only two things/questions that come up to my mind: 1. Since I had already 3 cams which lost their lens because of poor production quality, I would probably tend to hotglue it to the frame instead of relying exclusively on the probably weakest spot of the construction of the cam. Those 3 mentioned cams where different brands/models though (Eachine TX01), but I'm pretty sure that most of those cheap AIO cams are of similar quality. 2. I'm sure it will still be balanced just fine with sideways mounted battery. But do you notice any difference while flying rolls? My experience of flying with the battery mounted in the classic way is, that the quad spins faster on rolls than on flips. I assume it should be the other way around when mounted sideways. Still no issue, just interested ;) Anyways, the benefits of your mod speak for themselves - well done! Cheers for sharing. I'll definitely give it a go :)
1. Hot glue is a good idea, can't go wrong with some added support. 2. That's a good question, thanks for asking, I never thought about that. Now that you've mentioned it, I'm sure it makes a slight difference, but it is not very noticeable to me. I didn't notice it even when I had the classic mount. I decided to do a quick test on my scale and ended up with this: Total weight: 27g (with batt) Front struts: 14.3g (53%) Rear struts: 12.7g (47%) Left struts: 13.5g (50%) Right struts: 13.5g (50%) Kind of interesting. Although, there is also the center of gravity and whether the weight is above/below/level with the props, which I don't know how to test. Thanks man, happy to share! I hope you do give it a go, I'd like to see some more feedback :)
Thanks bro! Liked & subscribed. Hey, this is the easiest build ever. I was considering that Crazy Pony camera. It's $21 Prime right now at your link. I'm ordering one right now. Thanks a lot for the walkthrough! You rocked it.
I'm wondering if there's enough room under the canopy for the Kingkong Q100 VTX. I have an F36 coming, and that was my plan if it will fit. I never did like the AIOs with the cloverleaf. I seperate them, but that wouldn't work very good for such a small quad. I actually like my minion for the fact that it doesn't have a cloverleaf to break. the thing I don't like about it is its wimpy even with fast motors. That and it often changes channels when it lands on it's head ;-) Keep up the good work!
Hmmm. You could probably get it to fit, I'm not for sure though. The F36 canopy definitely has more room than the E010. Either way, the Kingkong would definitely be heavier than the Crazepony. But I am curious, so let me know how it goes!
DRONEDOYOUEVEN. I'm putting the Q100 together, and I'm going to add micro JST plugs instead of soldering the FPV directly, so that I can try it on the F36 when it comes. From the vids I've seen of the F36, it needs a little ballast to keep it off the ceiling :-)
Thanks man! The FC is the BeeBrain from NewBeeDrone: newbeedrone.com/products/the-beebrain-v-1-cleanflight-betaflight-compatible-flight-control-for-the-tinywhoop-inductrix-quad?variant=26456227846 It is a beautiful piece of equipment, but there are cheaper options out there, like a beecore fc. You could also find the JST plug on NewBeeDrone, but I got mine from: www.tinywhoop.com/collections/parts-and-accessories/products/upgraded-battery-pigtail-powerwhoop-connector?variant=28401801153 Make sure you know if you need the JST 2.0 or JST 1.25. It depends on which batteries you're using.
Stupid question perhaps but... where did you get the rubber bands? Are those the type for braces or... something else? If you have a direct link to what you're using, that'd be great. Thanks! Trying this same idea (low hung camera) but having a bugger of a time figuring out the mount. Your rubber band idea is genius! I passed up a similar thought as your using for your camera but... ditched it because it hits the battery. YOU... took that away by rotating the battery! Why didn't I think of that! Genius! :-) Thank you!
So sorry. I glanced through the other posts & your replies but missed the rubber bands - just saw it. Sorry, and thank you. Walmart trip in the morning... :-)
Haha no worries man. I'm glad the design helped you out. Be sure to grab the black rubber bands, that's what I'm using now. Unless you prefer clear, haha doesn't really matter. Cheers
:-) Thanks! Bought both actually - figured I'll be making many Whoops in the future so... might want diff for diff builds / color schemes LOL. Thanks again, really appreciate the help.
For future readers of this thread a "heads up" - the clear bands are a little smaller than the black, and a little thinner. Clear holds my camera perfectly - black is a bit too loose for my liking... on the camera - but works perfectly for this battery mod.
Also I have thee same camera (Came with my makerfire 64mm build) and the red/black wires came out from the camera. Mine didn't come with any documentation since it was a BnF build, did the camera itself?
Danggg. There's no documentation with the camera, and they put a black glue over the connectors so it's hard to see. But it looks to me that the black wire goes to the lower left of the red wire.
I followed your camera placement idea and reversed ( front to back) the original FC board of FuriBee F36 180* to accommodate camera placement. Then cut 4-blade props to 2-blade. Now ,with the original battery 150mAh it weighs 22-23 gramms.I didn't check the flight time exactly, but looks like good 4 minutes.My question is : does your camera feels hot?I use BOLDCLASH F-01 and it gets HOT. Thank you.
Yes, my camera does get hot as well. It's pretty normal. I fly mine back to back with 4 batteries then give it a little rest and I haven't had any problems
Iza Kuijpers with a camera I'd always recommend better motors and a battery upgrade to keep the flight time up and I swere by rjx 3 blade propellers they sound awesome
I don't actually plug it in in this video, but at 8:52 you are able to see where I have soldered a micro JST plug to the board, it is hanging off the back. Once you plug it in it gets power from the battery. The single battery powers everything. You can watch my first build video and I go over the camera connection in more detail: th-cam.com/video/I3GBOXuivKs/w-d-xo.html
No, it flies exactly the same my friend. If you think about it, the original way is also off center, just on a different axis, and no one notices it flying weird.
Haha they are really handy! I take them from my girlfriend, she has a bunch for her hair and says you can find them at Walmart or anywhere in the hair section.
i made this with an e010 drone and an ef-01 camera and 55000rpm motors when the camera is on top of the drone everything works fine but when i make it low profile it doesn't want to fly. but why?
Did you change anything else? I would have to see some photos. I know the EF-01 is large so I'm not sure how you would have done this mod. Maybe the problem is the camera is blocking the ducts, so the propeller can't push the air downward. I can also tell you that the EF-01 camera is very heavy and 55k rpm motors aren't very strong, so that is not the best combination. Good luck my friend!
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I'm so glad I found this video. This is the best way to have camera mounted. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you, I'm glad you like it man! Peace
Was about to start splitting my vtx from my camera for the mullet mod, so glad I came across this, its by far the best solution I've come across!
Update: Ended up doing the mod, found that the camera position was to obstructed by the ducted fans. Ended up moving the camera forward until there was a clear view, its still protected just not as much. Also by pushing it forward was able to keep the battery in the original position. The center of balance is off a bit, need to get longer leads for the battery and push it further back . Overall I'm happy with it, going to keep tuning it but better than having the camera on top for sure.
How did you bend the antenna safely? I bent mine and broke it.
Awesome job.
Can you link me to the black props and rubber band you used to hold the camera in place? Appreciate it
I steal the rubberbands from my girlfriend, they're made to use in hair, and you can find them at Walmart or anywhere.
Props: us.banggood.com/Wholesale-Warehouse-Eachine-E010-Blade-Inductrix-Tiny-Whoop-RC-Quadcopter-Spares-Parts-Blades-Propeller-wp-Usa-1079425.html
I am addicted to tiny whoops and have been struggling with a clean camera setup. Practicing soldering, buying irons and magnifying/holders. Have everything to build a "Rambo Whoop" I think that this camera setup is going to work for me. Thanks, D!
I was excited to try this build. Looks great on the video. I tried it and was disappointed only because I am used to the camera view from above as opposed to below the props.. Wish I had seen this prior to becoming used to the other perspective.
Really smart way to benefit from the smaller sized cams! There are only two things/questions that come up to my mind:
1. Since I had already 3 cams which lost their lens because of poor production quality, I would probably tend to hotglue it to the frame instead of relying exclusively on the probably weakest spot of the construction of the cam. Those 3 mentioned cams where different brands/models though (Eachine TX01), but I'm pretty sure that most of those cheap AIO cams are of similar quality.
2. I'm sure it will still be balanced just fine with sideways mounted battery. But do you notice any difference while flying rolls? My experience of flying with the battery mounted in the classic way is, that the quad spins faster on rolls than on flips. I assume it should be the other way around when mounted sideways. Still no issue, just interested ;)
Anyways, the benefits of your mod speak for themselves - well done! Cheers for sharing. I'll definitely give it a go :)
1. Hot glue is a good idea, can't go wrong with some added support.
2. That's a good question, thanks for asking, I never thought about that. Now that you've mentioned it, I'm sure it makes a slight difference, but it is not very noticeable to me. I didn't notice it even when I had the classic mount.
I decided to do a quick test on my scale and ended up with this:
Total weight: 27g (with batt)
Front struts: 14.3g (53%)
Rear struts: 12.7g (47%)
Left struts: 13.5g (50%)
Right struts: 13.5g (50%)
Kind of interesting. Although, there is also the center of gravity and whether the weight is above/below/level with the props, which I don't know how to test.
Thanks man, happy to share! I hope you do give it a go, I'd like to see some more feedback :)
Thanks bro! Liked & subscribed. Hey, this is the easiest build ever. I was considering that Crazy Pony camera. It's $21 Prime right now at your link. I'm ordering one right now. Thanks a lot for the walkthrough! You rocked it.
Wow that’s awesome putting the camera there.
Excellent approach (plus 90* attitude) in solving problems.
Thank you
I think the tiny whoop canopy looks better than a toy canopy.
I'm wondering if there's enough room under the canopy for the Kingkong Q100 VTX. I have an F36 coming, and that was my plan if it will fit. I never did like the AIOs with the cloverleaf. I seperate them, but that wouldn't work very good for such a small quad. I actually like my minion for the fact that it doesn't have a cloverleaf to break. the thing I don't like about it is its wimpy even with fast motors. That and it often changes channels when it lands on it's head ;-) Keep up the good work!
Hmmm. You could probably get it to fit, I'm not for sure though. The F36 canopy definitely has more room than the E010. Either way, the Kingkong would definitely be heavier than the Crazepony. But I am curious, so let me know how it goes!
DRONEDOYOUEVEN. I'm putting the Q100 together, and I'm going to add micro JST plugs instead of soldering the FPV directly, so that I can try it on the F36 when it comes. From the vids I've seen of the F36, it needs a little ballast to keep it off the ceiling :-)
awesome set up man!
Nice build, what fc are you using and where do you buy the jst plug?
Thanks
Thanks man!
The FC is the BeeBrain from NewBeeDrone: newbeedrone.com/products/the-beebrain-v-1-cleanflight-betaflight-compatible-flight-control-for-the-tinywhoop-inductrix-quad?variant=26456227846
It is a beautiful piece of equipment, but there are cheaper options out there, like a beecore fc.
You could also find the JST plug on NewBeeDrone, but I got mine from: www.tinywhoop.com/collections/parts-and-accessories/products/upgraded-battery-pigtail-powerwhoop-connector?variant=28401801153
Make sure you know if you need the JST 2.0 or JST 1.25. It depends on which batteries you're using.
why doesnt everyone do it. it looks way cleaner
May effect the center of balance. Not entirely sure. I'm considering doing it
Stupid question perhaps but... where did you get the rubber bands? Are those the type for braces or... something else? If you have a direct link to what you're using, that'd be great. Thanks! Trying this same idea (low hung camera) but having a bugger of a time figuring out the mount. Your rubber band idea is genius! I passed up a similar thought as your using for your camera but... ditched it because it hits the battery. YOU... took that away by rotating the battery! Why didn't I think of that! Genius! :-) Thank you!
So sorry. I glanced through the other posts & your replies but missed the rubber bands - just saw it. Sorry, and thank you. Walmart trip in the morning... :-)
Haha no worries man. I'm glad the design helped you out. Be sure to grab the black rubber bands, that's what I'm using now. Unless you prefer clear, haha doesn't really matter. Cheers
:-) Thanks! Bought both actually - figured I'll be making many Whoops in the future so... might want diff for diff builds / color schemes LOL. Thanks again, really appreciate the help.
For future readers of this thread a "heads up" - the clear bands are a little smaller than the black, and a little thinner. Clear holds my camera perfectly - black is a bit too loose for my liking... on the camera - but works perfectly for this battery mod.
Yee! Can never have too many whoops
Also I have thee same camera (Came with my makerfire 64mm build) and the red/black wires came out from the camera. Mine didn't come with any documentation since it was a BnF build, did the camera itself?
Danggg. There's no documentation with the camera, and they put a black glue over the connectors so it's hard to see. But it looks to me that the black wire goes to the lower left of the red wire.
Thanks anyway bud. Ugly black glue ruins the whole build! LOL
I followed your camera placement idea and reversed ( front to back) the original FC board of FuriBee F36 180* to accommodate camera placement. Then cut 4-blade props to 2-blade. Now ,with the original battery 150mAh it weighs 22-23 gramms.I didn't check the flight time exactly, but looks like good 4 minutes.My question is : does your camera feels hot?I use BOLDCLASH F-01 and it gets HOT.
Thank you.
Yes, my camera does get hot as well. It's pretty normal. I fly mine back to back with 4 batteries then give it a little rest and I haven't had any problems
Ya same mine gets hot to but no problems with it
I wonder what the camera see in this installed location. Do you have any Low Profile Tiny Whoop flight video?
Some FPV footage will be coming up soon! But in this location you see a small bit of the ducts on each side of the camera
th-cam.com/video/j7LU3gVfjnE/w-d-xo.html flight footage
Great looking build man. Just wondering, what is your AUW (all up weight)?
26.2g with battery, E010 canopy, and Furibee frame
I thought this was the E010 frame as well?
In the video it is, but I have recently switched over to the Furibee because it is lighter and less brittle.
I want to mod all my batteries to have that connector. Where could I buy some?
do you need to put any upgrades on the drone to keep it in the air?
Iza Kuijpers with a camera I'd always recommend better motors and a battery upgrade to keep the flight time up and I swere by rjx 3 blade propellers they sound awesome
Idea: mount camera on the side and in beta flight (since you have a beebrain) change the board so it thinks one side is forward.
would this camera mount set up work on a inductrix whoop?
that is Awesome!! Great Build!!
do you have a link or source for those little rubber bands? perfect size for this. i found some orthodontist rubber bands but they are a little short
www.walmart.com/ip/Goody-Mary-Elastics-75-count/10319772
They have black ones too, just couldn't find the link for some reason.
thanks very much man!
I like this idea.nice
great BUILD.
I like it a lot, and your engineering is ingenious; but you should have included flight footage...
Thanks brother, I appreciate it.
You're right, I should have some flight footage. I'll be getting some up soon though!
it does look very ferrari like 🖒 arent the ducts inview?
+Jan Domingo they are just a little bit, but its not bad at all
flight footage th-cam.com/video/j7LU3gVfjnE/w-d-xo.html
I could not see where you plugged in the camera. Where does it plug in and to what power Source? Thanks. GrampaKenCanada.
I don't actually plug it in in this video, but at 8:52 you are able to see where I have soldered a micro JST plug to the board, it is hanging off the back. Once you plug it in it gets power from the battery. The single battery powers everything. You can watch my first build video and I go over the camera connection in more detail: th-cam.com/video/I3GBOXuivKs/w-d-xo.html
thanks for the info .. nice design over all too
Doesn't mounting the camera like that effect the center of balance?
No, it flies exactly the same my friend. If you think about it, the original way is also off center, just on a different axis, and no one notices it flying weird.
I need to pick up some of those small rubber bands
Haha they are really handy! I take them from my girlfriend, she has a bunch for her hair and says you can find them at Walmart or anywhere in the hair section.
you can also find them in the arts and craft stores/section. they're used for making bracelets and stuff.
you couldve rotateted the frame and motors 1/4 of a turn and slotted the battery in the original holster. maybe?
How much is that
The camera is $29. You can get the stock drone, Eachine E010, for $20, although the one in this video has a lot of upgrades on it.
Is there any way to order the camera to Europe(Germany)?
Maxpackts Amazon 👍
this particular camera gets hot. the rubber band will break in no time. better to use liquid tape or something else to hold it in place
Super Cool!
+GrisDismation thanks for watching!
i made this with an e010 drone and an ef-01 camera and 55000rpm motors when the camera is on top of the drone everything works fine but when i make it low profile it doesn't want to fly. but why?
Did you change anything else? I would have to see some photos. I know the EF-01 is large so I'm not sure how you would have done this mod. Maybe the problem is the camera is blocking the ducts, so the propeller can't push the air downward.
I can also tell you that the EF-01 camera is very heavy and 55k rpm motors aren't very strong, so that is not the best combination.
Good luck my friend!
DRONEDOYOUEVEN the strange thing is that it works when the camera is on top of the drone
That is strange, that's why I said maybe the problem is the camera is blocking the ducts, so the propeller can't push the air downward?
DRONEDOYOUEVEN the corners of the camera's board go about 2-3mm inside the ducts but that shouldn't be a problem
Hmm. When you say, "it doesn't want to fly," what exactly is it doing?
cool thanks 👍😎 !
Try to fly it. I think this build will affect the center of balance.
sweeet