I’ve seen this happen too Andrew, but the reason why some people aren’t renewing their PMP is because companies are requiring employees to get other certifications which requires additional yearly fees and pdus to obtain. In 2 months I have obtained the SAFe Agilist certification and Scrum Master certification. I work for a large Hospital and my IT department required this. They also require you to be PMP certified with experience to apply for a PMP position. I definitely will maintain my PMP certification. Thanks for this video.
@@Fly_Nimbus No. We are only given $500 a year for certs and several thousands toward degrees. So they paid for my SAFe 5 Cert (out of my boss’s budget)and ScrumMaster (from my $500 yearly Cert reimbursement) , but I have several more to get this year which will be out of my pocket: PMP, Product Owner, and I’m considering the SAFe LPM, but I will wait for this one prob next year so that I can at least get $500 of it paid by my organization.
You might be very much experienced from my understanding. I’m currently pursuing my bachelors, is there any other certs like CAPM which is related to project management or other certs that may be very much helpful that I may be able to acquire now, if I may ask? Thanks 😊
Thanks Andrew. Too much work went into preparing and taking this exam. No intention of letting the certification lapse. Thanks for the info on the certificate renewal fee. I was not aware of this requirement.
You have forgot to analyze the root cause of why people are not renewing.. It is only because of the renewal price? Or it is that PMP certification is loosing prestige on the market and the cost/benefit is not being profitable? Or Maybe people get certified, then get the promotion they wanted and then loose interest on renewal?
The pmp isn't necessary and there isn't enough to justify the requirements The classes offered for it are awful and we're noticing that the practices of pmi are out of date and out of touch
Thank you Andrew. I just passed my exam on the 15th and I understand the need to complete 60 PDUs but I didn’t realize I also had to pay every year to keep it as well.
I think there is AMF as well besides the PDUs. This is has nothing to do with PMI membership We have it for CISSP, CISM & ALL INFORMATION SECURITY Certifications.
Andrew I passed my PMP exam today, your videos at Udemy were essential for this achievement. Keep it up the good work. I will recommend it to my LinkedIn network also. Ps I wore blue and will celebrate tonight with pasta and chocolate cake.
This is really interesting - this test is so expensive that I can't imagine letting it lapse unless someone had absolutely no intention of ever working in a PM environment again! Maybe retirees? Shifting to a different cert, a more specialized one? Fascinating.
Simple, PMP don’t see value maintaining their certification. The employers look for professionals who deliver results not those who have only the credentials.
There's so many certifications out there. Sometimes you have to pick and choose which ones you want to keep up with. I'm studying for PMP right now. I also have a CPA and CMA. I've let my series 6, 63 and life health expire. PMP is really personal branding. If you feel it is useful to keep it active than do so. If not than don't. It's that simple. I think people are smart enough to decide what is best for them.
PMP has always charged for renewal and required PDUs, so that's not the reason. It could be that folk are going for the multitude of other certs, like PMI-ACP, they are specializing in a certain pm discipline. A lot of jobs out there will say PMP (or equivalent) with agile.
PMP Certifications are important, but costly and people don't like the whole proctored experience. Right now companies want SAFe Certifications and very few PMI-ACP. It is a practice and you have to pay for that. Employers are being tightfisted with training reimbursements. I would love to get PMP and retain it, but it is so time consuming. I need to be able to do it online as a working mom.
@@rodrigobarba930 ongoing troubble with their services and no answer at all from PMI. No matter who you ask, nobody is competent to answer or able to fix things.
I can attest to this. I was trying to go through basics course to prepare to sit for CAPM and it was taking me 3-4 times as long to get through because modules would not mark as “complete.” I had to keep taking screenshots and getting IT ticket where they would mark it as complete on the back end. I complained of this multiple times over several months but no one seemed to care. I was wasting so much time when I had goals I wanted to meet and someone advised me to study using other methods and stay away from basics course (I didn’t realize I could do that at that time), so I and doing another PM certification course and using that certificate to count towards my PDU’s to sit for my CAPM. I do want the CAPM to increase credibility with getting my foot in the door and hope that the experience I gain won’t require me to have a PMP. I think the every 3 years thing is honestly a money-making scheme and I know I likely won’t keep up with it anyway and have no interest in throwing money down the drain. I will maintain membership to show I am a member and gain practical work experience and get OTHER certifications that I feel will assist me better. Unsure with proper experience that PMP is even needed and I think people are catching onto this.
SAFe and Agile certifications are the 'in-thing' now and they aren't as costly as PMP is. Take for example I took membership and shelved out a good sum for membership but couldn't take the exam because of personal reasons. Don't get me wrong I know this was something I could maybe control but at the same time PMP studies need at least 3-4 months of study, membership costs are high and then the exam cost itself is high. I took a week off and my company sponsored Safe certification trainings and sponsored the exam which I cleared in 2-3 weeks of study. I got a new job because of these certs in a few months. And I am applying agile methodologies and I see a large number of companies applying it too. 5 months before my membership expired I weighed the costs in timewise and then money wise (exam fee) and saw unless it's a pure project world, a PMP cert is probably lost today because Product is gaining momentum and a lot of limelight. Plus PMP was relevant for waterfall methodologies. Agile is key now. Pmi has tried to add agile into PMP but as someone who went through PMP material and Safe certifications, PMP does not do justice to the real agile methodologies that are being practiced. Which is why I decided not to spend more money and give the pmp exam because it's probably redundant now honestly. And I had been wanting to take the exam for many years but the landscape has changed now.
Wonderful &very useful video. Life & time moves in parallel side by siide forward, and during this journy new things comes & many old concepts n techniques expired or eliminated. We are in a fast changing world, and if we dont stay synchronised & uptodate with changes then in time we ourselves with our experience expired and ignored by time and business world too, and not only our pmp certificates expired and lost. We must do our best to maintain things and stay inpace with majour changes at least. Again thanks to U Andrew.
All these associations seem rather to be successful business models for making cash with certificates. "People and interactions over processes and tools" - first rule of Agile Manifesto seem to be completely neglected.
They make retaining it more difficult. People have work and life. The CEUs required for other certifications is half PMP. I just re-take the rest every 3 years; saves me time.
@AndrewRamdayal - any idea what I put for "Ways of Working" "Power Skills" and "Business Acumen" for your 35 PDU prep course? I took an in person class for the PDUs to take the test and am going to use your Udemy prep course for PDUs. Just have no idea how to categorize the 35 hours. Thanks
I am proud to have my PMP. IMO earning PDus over a 3-year span is not that hard if one's focused and disciplined. Why let it lapse when one worked so hard to get it in the first place? I made a commitment to myself to maintain the PDUs when I made the decision to sit for the exam. Plus, I'm a freelance pm thus I pay out of pocket for continuing ed. So, no excuse for those who are employer-sponsored to let it lapse.
So I know someone who simply let theirs expire. They are at the end of their career, a senior Vice President role on their way to retirement, they simply have no reason to maintain it at this point. It would be interesting for them to also note average age and role of those maintaining the accreditation. When I become a VP I will also probably not worry about maintaining it on my way to retirement.
Andrew what courses do you have for the PDUs am worried about this. I am consideering getting a certified cost professional certifiton will it add to PDU
You have to have at least 2 or 3 years of experience to get your PMP and you cannot be right out of college with 0 experience. But I do agree that after a few years the PMP no longer matters, experience trumps PMP.
@@tammiepulley7167 it really does though. Even if you can get the job without the PMP certification. Showing your company that you’re committed to project management and then obtaining the accreditation will result in a higher pay in most companies.
Earlier PMP used to send reminders and call people to renew, this year I did not get any reminders or calls. I just about made renewal at the last day. May be they are not reminding as a strategy to make it premium.
Retirement, career changes, don't like being a PM, etc. It happens, but it is an interesting trend. The PMP is not easy to get, but if you're out of the game, there's no reason to keep it.
Andrew, what would be your advice on preparing for the PgMP exam? As there are more and more people getting PMP thanks to you I'm sure many of us would be interested in upgrading it to PgMP.
Mr. Andrew Ramdayal: Questions here: 1. Is PMP exam - 2022 still based on ITTO Questions like input, tools and techniques and outputs? (as PMP exam still based on PMBOK-6) 2. Is PMP exam - 2022 still based on mathematical / numerical questions i.e. Cost Management, Critical Path Method, PERT etc.? (as PMP exam still based on PMBOK-6) Please advise!
Video could have been much shorter. I don't think you made any effective case for keeping certification valid other than you have to retest or it's a hassle. The month to month variation is likely normal. Anyone interested in understanding this trend should understand how and why behind it. If not that data needs to be available to all. Managers need to be able to explain why something is occurring.
@@AndrewRamdayal how much amount to be paid??? I have passed my PMP certification in Oct 2020... I have passed my ACP exam in Jul 2021... I have mentioned the ACP details in PMI portal.. immediately i got more than 40 PDUs... Is it enough for me to renewal of the PMP certification in next year 2023??? Please explain about the renewal process....
@Andrew Ramdayal how much amount to be paid??? I have passed my PMP certification in Oct 2020... I have passed my ACP exam in Jul 2021... I have mentioned the ACP details in PMI portal.. immediately i got more than 40 PDUs... Is it enough for me to renewal of the PMP certification in next year 2023??? Please explain about the renewal process....
Although I was leading the project just like PMP is looking out for, my designation on the official documents is "Senior Software Engineer". Should I still mention project lead as a role or senior software engineer ?
Andrew Sir I got the point that renewal of PMP is important and once certified then we should do renewal before it gets expired. This makes sense also. However, I am still confused that why only in June month a sudden dip in PMP happens. Do you really think that it's because of renewal? I doubt it because if renewal is the reason then it should happen uniformly every month. I doubt this is the reason, something else should be there. Not sure if PMI will disclose it or not.
I believe it is 1 year after. So, if you missed your recertification date..let's say June 2..you have until June 2nd of the following year to renew your certification..before you lose it..
This is something I don't want to ever lose and have to do the PMP exam.. does anyone know if there is some sort of like a reminder that Hey you have got to do your 60 pdus and that you're PMP is nearing expiration or something so that you don't forget to renew ? thanks
I feel this one if the way ti make money in the morden world.with out PMP in olden day every thing we're good in the project, now only he or she can make money if is having PMP certificate. Rest in the project are same.
PMP is required when you don’t have experience or proven track record but having been in industry for a decade I get hired based of work experience, degree, clearance, and projects I was associated with. PMP is great to break into a sector but meaningless as a industry veteran.
I’ve seen this happen too Andrew, but the reason why some people aren’t renewing their PMP is because companies are requiring employees to get other certifications which requires additional yearly fees and pdus to obtain. In 2 months I have obtained the SAFe Agilist certification and Scrum Master certification. I work for a large Hospital and my IT department required this. They also require you to be PMP certified with experience to apply for a PMP position. I definitely will maintain my PMP certification. Thanks for this video.
Cant you just make your company pay for it? You should have a lot of leverage since you are in the tech space.
@@Fly_Nimbus No. We are only given $500 a year for certs and several thousands toward degrees. So they paid for my SAFe 5 Cert (out of my boss’s budget)and ScrumMaster (from my $500 yearly Cert reimbursement) , but I have several more to get this year which will be out of my pocket: PMP, Product Owner, and I’m considering the SAFe LPM, but I will wait for this one prob next year so that I can at least get $500 of it paid by my organization.
Gotcha good luck with your career in the future!!!
@@Fly_Nimbus Thank you so much
You might be very much experienced from my understanding. I’m currently pursuing my bachelors, is there any other certs like CAPM which is related to project management or other certs that may be very much helpful that I may be able to acquire now, if I may ask? Thanks 😊
Thanks Andrew. Too much work went into preparing and taking this exam. No intention of letting the certification lapse. Thanks for the info on the certificate renewal fee. I was not aware of this requirement.
You have forgot to analyze the root cause of why people are not renewing.. It is only because of the renewal price? Or it is that PMP certification is loosing prestige on the market and the cost/benefit is not being profitable? Or Maybe people get certified, then get the promotion they wanted and then loose interest on renewal?
The pmp isn't necessary and there isn't enough to justify the requirements
The classes offered for it are awful and we're noticing that the practices of pmi are out of date and out of touch
Thank you Andrew. I just passed my exam on the 15th and I understand the need to complete 60 PDUs but I didn’t realize I also had to pay every year to keep it as well.
You don't need to buy membership every year. There are so many ways to get your pdus.
@Mert Alkan Yeah that's what I know too. Video contains different.
I think there is AMF as well besides the PDUs. This is has nothing to do with PMI membership We have it for CISSP, CISM & ALL INFORMATION SECURITY Certifications.
It is ridiculous the amount of work to retain it.
Andrew I passed my PMP exam today, your videos at Udemy were essential for this achievement. Keep it up the good work.
I will recommend it to my LinkedIn network also.
Ps I wore blue and will celebrate tonight with pasta and chocolate cake.
This is really interesting - this test is so expensive that I can't imagine letting it lapse unless someone had absolutely no intention of ever working in a PM environment again! Maybe retirees? Shifting to a different cert, a more specialized one? Fascinating.
Simple, PMP don’t see value maintaining their certification. The employers look for professionals who deliver results not those who have only the credentials.
The PMP is losing relevance. The body of knowledge and test doesn’t directly correlate to vocational success. That is my theory.
It's just useless, no sense to renew. It throwing good money after bad!
Still worth maintaining for a general resume. It’s not hard to claim PDUs give it’s completely on the honor system.
There's so many certifications out there. Sometimes you have to pick and choose which ones you want to keep up with. I'm studying for PMP right now. I also have a CPA and CMA. I've let my series 6, 63 and life health expire. PMP is really personal branding. If you feel it is useful to keep it active than do so. If not than don't. It's that simple. I think people are smart enough to decide what is best for them.
PMP has always charged for renewal and required PDUs, so that's not the reason. It could be that folk are going for the multitude of other certs, like PMI-ACP, they are specializing in a certain pm discipline. A lot of jobs out there will say PMP (or equivalent) with agile.
PMP Certifications are important, but costly and people don't like the whole proctored experience. Right now companies want SAFe Certifications and very few PMI-ACP. It is a practice and you have to pay for that. Employers are being tightfisted with training reimbursements. I would love to get PMP and retain it, but it is so time consuming. I need to be able to do it online as a working mom.
My personal reason to not maintain my membership and certification is the horrible way PMI treats their members.
Could you elaborate on that?
@@rodrigobarba930 ongoing troubble with their services and no answer at all from PMI. No matter who you ask, nobody is competent to answer or able to fix things.
I can attest to this. I was trying to go through basics course to prepare to sit for CAPM and it was taking me 3-4 times as long to get through because modules would not mark as “complete.” I had to keep taking screenshots and getting IT ticket where they would mark it as complete on the back end. I complained of this multiple times over several months but no one seemed to care. I was wasting so much time when I had goals I wanted to meet and someone advised me to study using other methods and stay away from basics course (I didn’t realize I could do that at that time), so I and doing another PM certification course and using that certificate to count towards my PDU’s to sit for my CAPM. I do want the CAPM to increase credibility with getting my foot in the door and hope that the experience I gain won’t require me to have a PMP. I think the every 3 years thing is honestly a money-making scheme and I know I likely won’t keep up with it anyway and have no interest in throwing money down the drain. I will maintain membership to show I am a member and gain practical work experience and get OTHER certifications that I feel will assist me better. Unsure with proper experience that PMP is even needed and I think people are catching onto this.
Thanks Andrew as always, for this instructive video.
Glad it was helpful!
SAFe and Agile certifications are the 'in-thing' now and they aren't as costly as PMP is. Take for example I took membership and shelved out a good sum for membership but couldn't take the exam because of personal reasons. Don't get me wrong I know this was something I could maybe control but at the same time PMP studies need at least 3-4 months of study, membership costs are high and then the exam cost itself is high. I took a week off and my company sponsored Safe certification trainings and sponsored the exam which I cleared in 2-3 weeks of study. I got a new job because of these certs in a few months. And I am applying agile methodologies and I see a large number of companies applying it too. 5 months before my membership expired I weighed the costs in timewise and then money wise (exam fee) and saw unless it's a pure project world, a PMP cert is probably lost today because Product is gaining momentum and a lot of limelight. Plus PMP was relevant for waterfall methodologies. Agile is key now. Pmi has tried to add agile into PMP but as someone who went through PMP material and Safe certifications, PMP does not do justice to the real agile methodologies that are being practiced. Which is why I decided not to spend more money and give the pmp exam because it's probably redundant now honestly. And I had been wanting to take the exam for many years but the landscape has changed now.
Wonderful &very useful video. Life & time moves in parallel side by siide forward, and during this journy new things comes & many old concepts n techniques expired or eliminated. We are in a fast changing world, and if we dont stay synchronised & uptodate with changes then in time we ourselves with our experience expired and ignored by time and business world too, and not only our pmp certificates expired and lost. We must do our best to maintain things and stay inpace with majour changes at least. Again thanks to U Andrew.
All these associations seem rather to be successful business models for making cash with certificates. "People and interactions over processes and tools" - first rule of Agile Manifesto seem to be completely neglected.
They make retaining it more difficult. People have work and life. The CEUs required for other certifications is half PMP. I just re-take the rest every 3 years; saves me time.
Also, make sure your contact information is up to date so you maye receive reminder emails about recertification.
@AndrewRamdayal - any idea what I put for "Ways of Working" "Power Skills" and "Business Acumen" for your 35 PDU prep course? I took an in person class for the PDUs to take the test and am going to use your Udemy prep course for PDUs. Just have no idea how to categorize the 35 hours. Thanks
Dear Andrew,
I recently did my PMP, what next best certificate I can go for in PM profile
CBAP (business analysis)
I am proud to have my PMP. IMO earning PDus over a 3-year span is not that hard if one's focused and disciplined. Why let it lapse when one worked so hard to get it in the first place? I made a commitment to myself to maintain the PDUs when I made the decision to sit for the exam. Plus, I'm a freelance pm thus I pay out of pocket for continuing ed. So, no excuse for those who are employer-sponsored to let it lapse.
So I know someone who simply let theirs expire. They are at the end of their career, a senior Vice President role on their way to retirement, they simply have no reason to maintain it at this point.
It would be interesting for them to also note average age and role of those maintaining the accreditation. When I become a VP I will also probably not worry about maintaining it on my way to retirement.
Andrew what courses do you have for the PDUs am worried about this. I am consideering getting a certified cost professional certifiton will it add to PDU
The PMP is often most PM's entry into the game. After 3 years of experience, it's no longer necessary to have.
You have to have at least 2 or 3 years of experience to get your PMP and you cannot be right out of college with 0 experience. But I do agree that after a few years the PMP no longer matters, experience trumps PMP.
@@tammiepulley7167 it really does though. Even if you can get the job without the PMP certification. Showing your company that you’re committed to project management and then obtaining the accreditation will result in a higher pay in most companies.
Earlier PMP used to send reminders and call people to renew, this year I did not get any reminders or calls. I just about made renewal at the last day. May be they are not reminding as a strategy to make it premium.
Thanks!
Retirement, career changes, don't like being a PM, etc. It happens, but it is an interesting trend. The PMP is not easy to get, but if you're out of the game, there's no reason to keep it.
Hello Andrew, waiting for your CAPM course based on 7th edition in Udemy. When will it come out?
later in the year.
Andrew, what would be your advice on preparing for the PgMP exam?
As there are more and more people getting PMP thanks to you I'm sure many of us would be interested in upgrading it to PgMP.
Mr. Andrew Ramdayal:
Questions here:
1. Is PMP exam - 2022 still based on ITTO Questions like input, tools and techniques and outputs? (as PMP exam still based on PMBOK-6)
2. Is PMP exam - 2022 still based on mathematical / numerical questions i.e. Cost Management, Critical Path Method, PERT etc.? (as PMP exam still based on PMBOK-6)
Please advise!
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Will I be getting a free UDEMY course when I buy the book?
Also i m starting a EMBA. Does some courses can be considered to get those 60 pdu’s?
Video could have been much shorter. I don't think you made any effective case for keeping certification valid other than you have to retest or it's a hassle. The month to month variation is likely normal. Anyone interested in understanding this trend should understand how and why behind it. If not that data needs to be available to all. Managers need to be able to explain why something is occurring.
People are gutting retired as well. Haven't you thought about that before
Hello Andrew, just to reiterate what l heard, we have to pay for the membership fee yearly to keep the certification?
No, you don't need to renew your membership every year but you will need to pay a fee every 3 years to renew your certification.
@@AndrewRamdayal thanks for the clarification.
@@AndrewRamdayal how much amount to be paid??? I have passed my PMP certification in Oct 2020... I have passed my ACP exam in Jul 2021... I have mentioned the ACP details in PMI portal.. immediately i got more than 40 PDUs... Is it enough for me to renewal of the PMP certification in next year 2023??? Please explain about the renewal process....
@Andrew Ramdayal how much amount to be paid??? I have passed my PMP certification in Oct 2020... I have passed my ACP exam in Jul 2021... I have mentioned the ACP details in PMI portal.. immediately i got more than 40 PDUs... Is it enough for me to renewal of the PMP certification in next year 2023??? Please explain about the renewal process....
1. can renewing trigger an audit?
2. how can employers use the registry to verify employment?
Although I was leading the project just like PMP is looking out for, my designation on the official documents is "Senior Software Engineer". Should I still mention project lead as a role or senior software engineer ?
Andrew Sir I got the point that renewal of PMP is important and once certified then we should do renewal before it gets expired. This makes sense also. However, I am still confused that why only in June month a sudden dip in PMP happens.
Do you really think that it's because of renewal? I doubt it because if renewal is the reason then it should happen uniformly every month. I doubt this is the reason, something else should be there. Not sure if PMI will disclose it or not.
Hi Andrew, is the industrial standard ( manage quality process) OPA or EEF? Thank you.
EEF
i was wondering where do i actually take the project management ready cert? i am so confused :(
Just enter this PMP world just beginning. What is PDU?
Hello, i would like to know what kind of credits we should get to maintain the pmp? What courses? And the 25 pdu’s “to give” how do we do it?
Do we get any extra time to renew the certificate beyond the due date?
I believe it is 1 year after. So, if you missed your recertification date..let's say June 2..you have until June 2nd of the following year to renew your certification..before you lose it..
Ngl, I actually came here to check how many passed the PMP wearing Blue and the ones without wearing Blue. Maybe the next video.
This is something I don't want to ever lose and have to do the PMP exam.. does anyone know if there is some sort of like a reminder that Hey you have got to do your 60 pdus and that you're PMP is nearing expiration or something so that you don't forget to renew ? thanks
I feel this one if the way ti make money in the morden world.with out PMP in olden day every thing we're good in the project, now only he or she can make money if is having PMP certificate. Rest in the project are same.
Can you provide the resource which PMP certified need to complete for renewal
I agree some percent not renewing and rest knows the value only in term of money and performance wise thet can't.
You don't need to buy membership every year. There are so many ways to get your pdus. Pls correct me if I am wrong @andrew
ok soyou are new you get your pmp now what how do you get started getting a job?
Perhaps, not much help to find/keeping jobs during pandemic.
Andy, quick links PDU's pls
Dear Andrew if some one is holding CAPM and PMP , can renew both by claiming PDUs for either CAPM or PMP ?
Yes you could.
They might not be renewing it!
If some one have done PMP and without tech knowledge he can't perform well in the project even if ha e PMP.
The company I work for will pay me if I passed the exam.
The certificate can expire, but the knowledge doesn’t 😉
I never renew my certs.
There is no reasonable reason to renew PMP 😅
Andrew, I am your First Viewer, and first to hit like too.
PMP is required when you don’t have experience or proven track record but having been in industry for a decade I get hired based of work experience, degree, clearance, and projects I was associated with. PMP is great to break into a sector but meaningless as a industry veteran.
I am pmp certified 😬