What amazingly wise thing to do, not allow parents in the school- that's called making boundaries. the child is the one playing, not the parent. NArcissitic parenting causes the child to go insane when there are no boundaries and the adult is in every aspect of the child's business.
Some parents are so attached to their children that they deprive them of a personal development, that they steal their autonomy. It sometimes looks as if they wanted to live through their children a life they did not have. The opposite thing not to take care of them...I suppose it's a matter of balance.
"I want to give you the life I couldn't have" Well... What if that is not what I want for me? What if I want want something you could've had but you just didn't want to have?
They’re worse trust me I started playing the trumpet at 8 and after school I had to practice practice practice I was on the basketball team and my mom made me miss my game to go to lessons I would have to spend HOURS in a room just playing until it was time for bed
not only an exceptional talent, but a really great musician, have grown more mature, more profound performer over decades. And a good man, intelligent, humble and dedicated. A unique combination
How does one man inspire me so much. Even though im only 13 people always tell me to work harder and get better. But now i think im just gonna work at my own pace
I am immensely impressed by the great musician's down to earth practical advice to the parents of the talented children. No one would have so profoundly thought of Prodigies and his perception on their up bringing than the God given Perlman . I really learnt a lesson from him.
So important that Perlman says it's thoughtful work that counts. That's the hard thing about useful work when you're trying to progress. To get really good at something you have to think about it when you're tired, or not in the mood. It's not just the hours, it's the trying, judging, rejecting, accepting, solving, all the time until little by little the obstacles are overcome and the progress happens. Darn it!
But some people are more gifted than others. Talent exists, and is part of the mix of hard work, natural ability, and external support (ie having a world class teacher) that produces great artists. That 10,000 hours rule has been debunked.
The X thousand hours thing is ridiculous, because it implies that it doesn't matter what you do during those hours. Good teachers and environment, good models to get inspired to and QUALITY practice are the main thing. I guarantee you that a kid with very high quality teaching several times a week and extremely structured and regular practice schedule will go much further than any talent lacking the discipline and the environment. Now if you want to be Heifetz of Perlman, you obviously need both. But they are one in a million.
A true pedagogue a realist honest humble yet a great artist knows the truth from superfluous He deserves all the fame ,he has earned it with hard work and loved for his character Plato said true education is the way we behave to one another.
Dan Cornelius he just worked really hard. being great at music doesn't require for it to be easy and natural for you in the beginning. I think the bigger gift is determination. most real savants and prodigies end up being very distressed and depressed because they cannot get away from their "gift". It is with them all the time. all they are is music. most of the "prodigies" and "savants" we have now are not so. They are talented but a true gift is more of a curse for most
Dan Cornelius is no t humble, its just that this kind of guys have aural skills on levels way beyond normal people can comprehend and so their standards are equally as high. You could go to a piano competition and hear every pianist play perfect and the judges would be like percieving difference we could not, that goes more with the interpretation and expression of a piece of music than the technique... Tech is a given for them.. And this is what he is referring to... At a young age he was technically sound but his maturity and expression were not there yet
what wisdom! He's absolutely right about banning parents, in Italy there is a funny 1955 movie with the famous Roman actor Alberto Sordi titled 'Bravissimo' about Sordi adopting a prodigy child for his own egotiscal ends. A funny movie which makes you ponder on what to do with prodigy kids.
@@rumpustime5460 Please, I'm a foreinger and I would like to know what's so wrong about that question. The syntax, the grammar? For me it seems ok. Perhaps you would express yourself in a diferent way, but then we're talking about style , not flawed english, so I'd appreciate your reply, really.
the parents of prodigies, because of ego, often try to live off their kids. It's no easy life being a musician or making any good money playing an instrument. How many violinists, pianists, etc can you name? likely they're the only ones in their instrument making really good money doing it.
Corrie De Beer that's an interesting standpoint, but I respectfully disagree with you. I was born with a talent for piano improvisation. By the time I was 5, I could improvise a piano sonata, or even a 3-voice Fugue. This isn't bragging (I'm not a great pianist), it's simply true. I didn't have a strict practice routine, and I didn't really work hard (3-year-olds don't even know how to work XD), it was just like talking for me. So talent does exist, but a thing to keep in mind is that hard work beats talent if talent fails to work hard. Just my two cents, but I'm not nearly as wise as perlman... I'm only a teenager. I would love to hear his opinion, and if you have a counter-argument, I would be happy to hear it!
Certainly you're right Joshua. Not all people are equal, therefore there exist people with different natural abilities. To say talent does not exist is ridiculous. But as Perlman says, talent can be a dangerous thing. If you don't have to work for something as a child, you may never learn to work hard and your talents will flounder as an adult.
Talent is an aspect, but talent is nothing without hard work. I can honestly (and I hope humbly) say I have a talent for piano and violin. I put in the work for piano, so now, at 14, I am learning Chopin Etudes, and I didn't as much put in the work for violin. Right now I can only play Czardas. You need focus and hard work to get anywhere.
In my experience "No", is not the word that should be used, a smart child should be talked with about possible dangers and guidance on a particular topic and allowed explore. Nothing worst than hearing "no, you need" about your passions. My grade 7 teacher noticed that I was adept at psychology and general science. Grade 8 my teacher said psychology was a "Pseudo Science", from then on for three years she hounded me trying to "be the one that makes me succeed". A persons success depends on one thing. YOU getting the f*** out of the way, and assisting or just leaving them alone, you just may not be able to keep up or understand, it's not meant for you. They need to not only learn about the world and themselves, but they also need to learn to communicate with you and that could/will take even longer than you want.
Vladimir Ashkenazy says the same thing about himself, that he was not a prodigy. I think these two men are so grounded and completely lacking in vanity that they probably believe it. Ego is another thing....you have to have a certain amount of ego to be that good at anything, but they never showed theirs. They simply went about their business and made gorgeous music!
Sound engineer managed to create one of the most unsettling sound stages in the history of ... well ... sound stages. Perlman is panned to the left centre and interviewer is right bottom. Dog gone awful.
This is great, because it will produce a new wave of geniuses, rather than just copycat child prodigies. I mean stuff like the Suzuki method is fine, but the parents are too involved. I would rather just learn to read music, buy a violin, a book of Bach’s music and just start shredding through it until something decent comes out. There is plenty of good online stuff to teach the basics and as a teenager or adult beginner, what piece would you rather learn how to play? The Adagio from Bach’s first Sonata or Mary had a little lamb!
I understand what you’re saying in its entirety. Individuals wanting to learn an instrument should start out with easier classical music rather than the bs they do start with. It would be much more beneficial in terms of musicality, technique, and sheer love for the instrument
@Dian Amini Someone gets it! I started lessons at 5 years old and even at that age, 1 week of Suzuki book 1 was enough to put me off! 15 years later, I still don’t regret it! I still have “Lightly Row” stuck in my head to this day!🤮 I prefer Carl Orff’s approach to music education at that age, which I was subjected to a couple years later. It mostly involved listening to Carmina Burana, excerpts from Wagner’s Ring or Holst’s Planets suite, being asked about the piece’s structure, what it reminded you of and then having a lot of fun banging and shaking loads of shit to it and making a racket!
So what does it mean by parents to "behave"? Did he mean that parents shouldn't be pushing the child too much, or that they should push the child more?
As a young musician it is 100% that the parents should NOT push the child too much. A parent who gets in the way with music making often is obsessed with things like success, career, money, practice hours, etc. and they can be incredibly dangerous to the musical growth of the child. What is important is the music and the quality of the music. If the music is good then career, success, all that will follow. Moreover parents can be overbearing with THEIR perspective of what "proper practice" is or "discipline" is; many parents push their children to practice the way they force, which is often based on their experiences in academics and NOT music, and not naturally according to the musician's style of practice.
I've had my share dealing with the kind of entitlement or plain Silliness of many parents. They just interfere way too much with everything. That or they are so overambitious they just burn out their kids.
What amazingly wise thing to do, not allow parents in the school- that's called making boundaries. the child is the one playing, not the parent. NArcissitic parenting causes the child to go insane when there are no boundaries and the adult is in every aspect of the child's business.
No kidding!
seoreh I agree with Pearan parents can be a pain in the neck
I was abused by my teacher cause my parents where not around
Yup, they can piss right off.
@@pluutoop so abuse the teacher back or tell someone
"...the rest of it has to do with hard work and THOUGHTFUL work."
I really liked that bit.
It hurts to think of how many talented young musicians have had their passion for music destroyed by their parents.
How can a guy THAT good, be so humble? What a great guy!
Some parents are so attached to their children that they deprive them of a personal development, that they steal their autonomy. It sometimes looks as if they wanted to live through their children a life they did not have.
The opposite thing not to take care of them...I suppose it's a matter of balance.
yep that's what happened to me haha
chinija71 that is the balance yes because children are not developed yet and naïf and as a parent you are still responsible for that live
"I want to give you the life I couldn't have"
Well... What if that is not what I want for me? What if I want want something you could've had but you just didn't want to have?
Down to earth! Such a great man. Talented and blessed!
What he says about youngsters and the danger of talent at such a young age is profound
I am impressed by this immensely talented man with such a great sense of humility, god bless you Mr. Perlman.
I cry listening to his performances... Now I know that I would certainly cry if I had a talk with him... not only talented, but also wise
Does that mean that "music "parents are as much of a pain in the ass as "hockey" parents?
yep
Or worse.
They’re worse trust me I started playing the trumpet at 8 and after school I had to practice practice practice I was on the basketball team and my mom made me miss my game to go to lessons I would have to spend HOURS in a room just playing until it was time for bed
@@wresltgal are you good, tho
Yes
not only an exceptional talent, but a really great musician, have grown more mature, more profound performer over decades. And a good man, intelligent, humble and dedicated. A unique combination
How does one man inspire me so much. Even though im only 13 people always tell me to work harder and get better. But now i think im just gonna work at my own pace
How's the "my pace" going? (two years later)
What a soul. Explains why he plays so gorgeously.
I am immensely impressed by the great musician's down to earth practical advice to the parents of the talented children. No one would have so profoundly thought of Prodigies and his perception on their up bringing than the God given Perlman . I really learnt a lesson from him.
So important that Perlman says it's thoughtful work that counts. That's the hard thing about useful work when you're trying to progress. To get really good at something you have to think about it when you're tired, or not in the mood. It's not just the hours, it's the trying, judging, rejecting, accepting, solving, all the time until little by little the obstacles are overcome and the progress happens. Darn it!
This obsession with 'gifted' people. Practice enough and you can be great. Or just good enough.
But some people are more gifted than others. Talent exists, and is part of the mix of hard work, natural ability, and external support (ie having a world class teacher) that produces great artists. That 10,000 hours rule has been debunked.
The X thousand hours thing is ridiculous, because it implies that it doesn't matter what you do during those hours.
Good teachers and environment, good models to get inspired to and QUALITY practice are the main thing. I guarantee you that a kid with very high quality teaching several times a week and extremely structured and regular practice schedule will go much further than any talent lacking the discipline and the environment.
Now if you want to be Heifetz of Perlman, you obviously need both. But they are one in a million.
Itzhak Perlman is amazing, is my favorite violinist and i think, Hy is very simpatic.🎻🌹❣️
He is a genius!
A true pedagogue a realist honest humble yet a great artist knows the truth from superfluous He deserves all the fame ,he has earned it with hard work and loved for his character Plato said true education is the way we behave to one another.
i think he's a little *too* humble. if he wasn't a prodigy, was anybody?
Yes. Heifetz for one.
Dan Cornelius he just worked really hard. being great at music doesn't require for it to be easy and natural for you in the beginning. I think the bigger gift is determination. most real savants and prodigies end up being very distressed and depressed because they cannot get away from their "gift". It is with them all the time. all they are is music. most of the "prodigies" and "savants" we have now are not so. They are talented but a true gift is more of a curse for most
he's not very humble. you don't know him.
"Age appropriate for somebody with talent"
Seems reasonable.
Dan Cornelius is no t humble, its just that this kind of guys have aural skills on levels way beyond normal people can comprehend and so their standards are equally as high. You could go to a piano competition and hear every pianist play perfect and the judges would be like percieving difference we could not, that goes more with the interpretation and expression of a piece of music than the technique... Tech is a given for them.. And this is what he is referring to... At a young age he was technically sound but his maturity and expression were not there yet
what wisdom! He's absolutely right about banning parents, in Italy there is a funny 1955 movie with the famous Roman actor Alberto Sordi titled 'Bravissimo' about Sordi adopting a prodigy child for his own egotiscal ends. A funny movie which makes you ponder on what to do with prodigy kids.
how can you record a man like that with so bad audio?
How can you ask a question like that with so bad English?
003 7712 how ignorant do you have to be to pay attention to how fluent in a language someone is? mind your own business
@@anna-nr6ew And how soft do you have to be to hear someone like that speak and whine about the audio? That'll be all.
Lol both statements can be true 😂
@@rumpustime5460 Please, I'm a foreinger and I would like to know what's so wrong about that question. The syntax, the grammar? For me it seems ok. Perhaps you would express yourself in a diferent way, but then we're talking about style , not flawed english, so I'd appreciate your reply, really.
USA Today's post production audio crew: DON'T PAN LAVS. All I hear is phasing and delays between the two mics.
the ever glorious Perlman.
Very interesting i thynk is true.... Thank you very much Maestro Ithzak Perlman! 🌺
his views here are really precious.
My favourite violinist!
Ling Ling practices 40hrs a day. Be like Ling Ling.
TwoSet gang
the parents of prodigies, because of ego, often try to live off their kids. It's no easy life being a musician or making any good money playing an instrument. How many violinists, pianists, etc can you name? likely they're the only ones in their instrument making really good money doing it.
Aka Dance moms 👽
I dont believe in talent, I believe in hard work. I wonder if he would agree?
Corrie De Beer that's an interesting standpoint, but I respectfully disagree with you. I was born with a talent for piano improvisation. By the time I was 5, I could improvise a piano sonata, or even a 3-voice Fugue. This isn't bragging (I'm not a great pianist), it's simply true. I didn't have a strict practice routine, and I didn't really work hard (3-year-olds don't even know how to work XD), it was just like talking for me. So talent does exist, but a thing to keep in mind is that hard work beats talent if talent fails to work hard. Just my two cents, but I'm not nearly as wise as perlman... I'm only a teenager. I would love to hear his opinion, and if you have a counter-argument, I would be happy to hear it!
Certainly you're right Joshua. Not all people are equal, therefore there exist people with different natural abilities. To say talent does not exist is ridiculous. But as Perlman says, talent can be a dangerous thing. If you don't have to work for something as a child, you may never learn to work hard and your talents will flounder as an adult.
Talent is an aspect, but talent is nothing without hard work. I can honestly (and I hope humbly) say I have a talent for piano and violin. I put in the work for piano, so now, at 14, I am learning Chopin Etudes, and I didn't as much put in the work for violin. Right now I can only play Czardas. You need focus and hard work to get anywhere.
It takes commitment to bring talent to fruition. No talent, all the work in the world won't make you great. Good, even excellent, not great.
Itzhak Perlman: A true genius and a generous musician! AND: he knows that parents can completely ruin a child’s future ~ ~ ~
Wonderful man!
In my experience "No", is not the word that should be used, a smart child should be talked with about possible dangers and guidance on a particular topic and allowed explore.
Nothing worst than hearing "no, you need" about your passions.
My grade 7 teacher noticed that I was adept at psychology and general science.
Grade 8 my teacher said psychology was a "Pseudo Science", from then on for three years she hounded me trying to "be the one that makes me succeed".
A persons success depends on one thing.
YOU getting the f*** out of the way, and assisting or just leaving them alone, you just may not be able to keep up or understand, it's not meant for you.
They need to not only learn about the world and themselves, but they also need to learn to communicate with you and that could/will take even longer than you want.
Vladimir Ashkenazy says the same thing about himself, that he was not a prodigy. I think these two men are so grounded and completely lacking in vanity that they probably believe it. Ego is another thing....you have to have a certain amount of ego to be that good at anything, but they never showed theirs. They simply went about their business and made gorgeous music!
Sound engineer managed to create one of the most unsettling sound stages in the history of ... well ... sound stages.
Perlman is panned to the left centre and interviewer is right bottom.
Dog gone awful.
Which campus is it?
He said they have a campuss which they teach violin or stuff.. do you know which is it ?
I guess the one at the Perlman Music Program in New York?
Hy is so sympatic person ❤️❤️❤️🎻
I remember him.
he explains it in his birthday interview with Golub
This is great, because it will produce a new wave of geniuses, rather than just copycat child prodigies.
I mean stuff like the Suzuki method is fine, but the parents are too involved. I would rather just learn to read music, buy a violin, a book of Bach’s music and just start shredding through it until something decent comes out.
There is plenty of good online stuff to teach the basics and as a teenager or adult beginner, what piece would you rather learn how to play? The Adagio from Bach’s first Sonata or Mary had a little lamb!
I understand what you’re saying in its entirety. Individuals wanting to learn an instrument should start out with easier classical music rather than the bs they do start with. It would be much more beneficial in terms of musicality, technique, and sheer love for the instrument
@Dian Amini Someone gets it! I started lessons at 5 years old and even at that age, 1 week of Suzuki book 1 was enough to put me off! 15 years later, I still don’t regret it! I still have “Lightly Row” stuck in my head to this day!🤮
I prefer Carl Orff’s approach to music education at that age, which I was subjected to a couple years later.
It mostly involved listening to Carmina Burana, excerpts from Wagner’s Ring or Holst’s Planets suite, being asked about the piece’s structure, what it reminded you of and then having a lot of fun banging and shaking loads of shit to it and making a racket!
Nothing decent will come out of that
So what does it mean by parents to "behave"? Did he mean that parents shouldn't be pushing the child too much, or that they should push the child more?
As a young musician it is 100% that the parents should NOT push the child too much. A parent who gets in the way with music making often is obsessed with things like success, career, money, practice hours, etc. and they can be incredibly dangerous to the musical growth of the child. What is important is the music and the quality of the music. If the music is good then career, success, all that will follow. Moreover parents can be overbearing with THEIR perspective of what "proper practice" is or "discipline" is; many parents push their children to practice the way they force, which is often based on their experiences in academics and NOT music, and not naturally according to the musician's style of practice.
I hear his take on pushy parents, and I think of Guila Bustabo, and I think of what could have been for her ...
parents: I'm pick up my kid in their school at the classroom
Itzhak Perlman: I'm about to end this man's whole career!!!
That's a stupid meme and you can't even use it correctly.
Makes sense!
I watch Dance Moms and shudder 🤮
took a while to realise he doesnt have a left foot
Right on.
I've had my share dealing with the kind of entitlement or plain Silliness of many parents. They just interfere way too much with everything. That or they are so overambitious they just burn out their kids.
If he doesn't consider himself a child prodigy, I wonder who he considers a prodigy then
Mozart, most likely
Sarah Chang
He explained that...: someone who, at the age of 10 already sounds like an experienced soloist. Take Christian Li for example
Mozart, Paganini, and Heifetz probably.
Jascha Heifetz. In an interview done many years ago on the life of Heifetz.
I click becsuse i thought the reporter had a beard
Perlman panned left XD
Try and separate the children from the parent's watchful eye? Red flag, my kid would never attend a school like that.