11:30 "I'm fine with where I am, but I want to improve. It makes no sense. You have to be fine with letting go of what you're comfortable with, because a lot of what you're comfortable with is bad habits." Now that is some LIFE advice.
It does make sense. You can actively seek to improve while being happy. Nothing necessarily self-negating in that mindset. Guess it can be helpful but I definitely don't need to be disgusted about my current self to consider and partake change.
@@DamianSzajnowski Not being happy with where you are at in a specific aspect you want to learn about does not need to become unhappiness with everything else. That is the path to anger and self hatred and anger and self hatred lead to the dark side. =) That said though how we language things is a more accurate measure of our thoughts than you might think. I don't coach League but I do teach people and when they come to me and say "I want to learn this. I mean I am happy with were I am at but..." I literally say "Stop. Repeat the first sentence. Good now you are done. If you were happy with where you are we would not be having this conversation." The more they push back on being happy with where they are the less likely it is they will apply what I am about to teach them... because they already mentally have given them selves an out... and if you pay attention to language you hear people do this to themselves all the time. Hell I still do it after my teachers pointed it out over and over. There can be a long list of reasons why and none of them matter really. The first step in asking for help is admitting there are things you actively want to change. This is not the same as saying "I love League and it makes me happy and I want to get better at it." That is a whole other conversation and a much more positive way to look at learning. I love League and have played it for a while now... and there are moments when how I play it really annoys me but over all playing still makes me happy. If it didn't I would stop.
Yea I started playing in 2010. I didn't even know there was a locked in camera until a couple years later i accidentally clicked one of the hotkeys for it and I was like wtf is this make it stop lol
Bootcamp... I've gone from Silver 4 to Silver 1 in just a single week. I'm almost caught up to my peak rank already, and I'm hoping to continue this trajectory and more! Phylaris was an AMAZING coach/speaker, his insight was great. It's very clear the amount of work that Neace and his team have put into this project, and it's just incredible. Thanks Neace & team!
NEACE great videos, however, if i can offer constructive criticism. When having a guest speaker, especially one that is eager to speak and give info like Phylaris, don't feel pressures to interject as much as it is interrupting the flow of your guest speaker. Work more from an interviewer's perspective rather than a co-host Again thanks for all the jungling videos, appreciate the work you put in
I agree, Neace kinda was looking for approval of the way he coaches I felt, rather than just interview him and let the dude expand our brains a bit, great content though
Me too! I tried the chemtech build last night and hated it. I didn't understand the CD boots rush, and I just had no damage potential after mid game. Now I know what's up
@@ma-cg1il not 100%, but I don't think so... pretty sure she needs to target the champion or champion icon near death timers, and I think they disappear... You find nocturne because his q and abilities still show through the darkness and you'll see it when F(1-5) pulls your screen to where your teammate is.
That is where you want to pick up the "60 seconds ahead assessment". You've got the farm and clearing down so learn to assess the wave management or objective timers so that you clear into the proximity of the goal like they talk about in the video
This conversation was FUCKING AWESOME! The amount of things I've started to realize about jungle camps is ridiculous. Keep on bringing cool guys like Phylaris and Riste, Neace. Excellent job!
This video literally won me an unwinnable game…mid and bot were inting hard and my pathing was top down, but I noticed my top was 1-0 so I saw a good opportunity to reverse my clear to always be there for the one lane we had a hope of winning. Even though the dude got fed af, he hard inted and got repeat ganked and roamed on, but was fed enough to have the confidence to at least chunk the dudes enough to set me up for some cleanup double kills. I have never reversed my clear and this was such an epic tip. Neace I watch your videos every day and most days they’re the best part of my day. Thank you guys so much for your awesome content, especially you gramps 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I started playing League with locked cam because its the first game that I've ever played with that top down camera and I couldn't handle it. Only until about few months ago I forced myself to use freecam and it help me enormously with my map awareness/macro and discovered that the f keys exists, especially when I was trying to learn mid at the same time.
This is hands down the best video on jungling i've ever seen. As a plat player who has the "train track" down but feels lost and hit a wall, this is exactly what I needed
Just had some coaching with Phylaris, was an extremely nice guy. Would recommend him to anyone and I’ll be rebooking once I’ve got better at the concepts we went over together.
this video is the reason i got to diamond and stopped. waaay over my head most of these concepts. i got to diamond using a huge crutch(never ever ganking bot lane, powerfarming basically all day everyday, win the game because you're 3 levels up on your enemy, understanding lane states just by lokking at the matchup and minimap - aka never axtually looking at the lane)
Coach Neace smart as fuck to be able to recognise when to let a Hecarim SME talk and when to contribute his own knowledge and experience. Love it man. Appreciate you from a fellow war veteran. Thanks for the lessons and keep them coming coach.
I’m a lower ELO jungle but I really hate when I see junglers that have no idea how to treat your lanes waves and they end failing a gank and take a minion that leads to the wave slow pushing towards tower
This is the best jungle info video I've ever watched, and I've watched a lot of them. This is the in depth stuff that can really matter in the long run. I'm low ELO right now but I'm still learning, and I want to build good habits now as I climb so I can keep climbing.
This was so so so so good There was so much good information in this video that I sat down and took a full page of notes. Thanks for giving us this content, Neace! My understanding of the game is seriously evolving.
from playing age of empires 2 it literally is 1-9 control groups for units, buillding hotkeys, ect. it is literally a game of a jump camera that really helped me, i never use F keys in lol but the moment i try tto it so easy, obvc ive had practise but it really isnt too difficult if you play some other games,
This blows my mind how much strategy goes into high level play into this game. I love this. The jungle timer strategy, camera control. ... now if I can just stop playing with a locked screen... maybe never, I think for me doing that would mean a commitment to play to climb rank. Still very interesting
even for a bronze player like me. (just started after a 9 yr pause) this is very interesting just because I get to see the possibilities in pathing and other stuff. thank you for this video!
If anyone is stuck in iron and bronze make sure you are practicing your cs for 30 minutes before you hop into a game and when you are in a game actually look at the map. Look at opportunities when jungling and playing top. Look for mid roams when playing support. You'll get to silver soon. Like every single time the jungler ganja it's literally the same path cos they are bronze and kinda dumb. 75 for a control ward is worth if you can cs correctly. Press tab look at item choices as well. The main item choice at he moment is boots. Treads or tabi, magic resist or armor. That's the main decision don't worry about mythics or custom builds yet just build core from u.gg I see so many people building armor into a team of ap it's kinda weird. Don't auto pilot. For junglers just use mute all. Go farm and look for opportunities don't just auto pilot farming your jungle. And do not sit in he side bush for 30 minutes waiting for a gank.
I'm so conflicted with league. I really really want to be a good player, but just find the whole experience so negative. I'm not sure I'm cut out for it.
@Indi Anon I lost my gold promos the other day to a shen who just did not want to win on Wednesday. I was full of rage so I took a day long break. Guess what, got trash teams which messed up my mood as well and lost 7 in a row
It's really fun if you play with nice people, which is hard. So I recommend you add any pleasant people you find in solo queue, and also, if you're doing bad, camp your tower and farm CS. It's always better to stay cautious and camp your towers if you're laning
That's cause it's rigged. If you win too much, they force you to lose. Gbay99, career diamond couldn't hit diamond last year for the first time and ended in plat with around 800 games. When Riot/Tencent wants you to lose, it's like playing poker with no hole cards.
@@lostandfound6501 you’re assuming that the level of play remains the same over time. Challenger players today would smash challenger players from season 3
there is nothing wrong with using lock cam as long as you actually use the camera, I just got so used to using the mini map camera drag and f keys, you can hold cam on mini map with right click and use left click to reposition, like I have super high sensitivity on my mouse but also have a button on the side that instantly cuts it in half or less so using the map isnt an issue, I could see myself using semi locked in the future but never free cam that shit annoys me so much ending up on the other side of the map during an intense fight
Most importantly just pick an easy champion. Like annie mid, garen top, mundo jungle, maokai support and ashe adc. The reason ashe is picked for adc is it helps with her utility. When your team is full bronze and you see an opportunity to go in, ult in to initiate it. Use your e for vision and wards. Your e isn't a control ward but gives your full team vision of enemy jungle it helps a lot and if you fall behind you have slows so you aren't fully useless.
So what do you do if, let's say, our midlaner goes 0/5 and is constantly pushed underneath his own turret. Should we continue to path and clear and ignore him? I've noticed that a lot of mid/bot players ping assist on me before I've even done 2 camps.
The first thing I tell someone when I hear that they use locked cam is that their own champion is the last thing they want to look at, since it is the easiest thing to keep track of without direct visual confirmation. If you unexpectedly get attacked while not looking at your champ, it's not an unlocked cam problem, you just needed better intel on the enemies' movements. Same thing with pathing errors, it's generally your own fault when your champ paths directly to their death, not the unlocked camera's.
I've been so short sighted 😂 like driving and only looking immediately in front of you on the road, not further up the road. No wonder I crash and burn and fail 😂 Big brain time
so I started playing Taliyah jungle, im only 7 games in, but 6-1, should i just stop and play skarner/udyr/mundo/hec, and worry about Taliyah later, or keep doing it as I am winning games with her?
I like the iteration on the "max 4 champions", I always tried to do this. Once some guy first-timing Evelynn in silver said to me: "300k kayn main? sad" and I was pissed he actually thinks playing a champion for the first time in ranked is a good thing. Anyway, I was actually always curious. Phylaris says "branch out once you're diamond" and I always thought it's a bad thing to practice new champions in ranked, especially in high elo. I mean I shouldn't care much in silver because I can't really get much lower but once I get into diamond? Here is the actual question: do you high-elo-players actually practice completely new champions in ranked diamond and not in normal or on some silver smurf account? Isn't it considered trolling if someone tries to get to master and the other one just first-times Lee Sin in his placements?
The four champ rule is for people who are new and cannot perform on the grand scale of the game. Playing a small pool lets you get used to the micro of the champ, so you don’t spend the whole game trying to figure out riven or irelia or lee sin or something. It focuses you onto performing and learning general gameplay. There is no problem playing as many champs as you want, as long as you have passable mechanics and the correct macro plays. Some champs like evelynn need you to be a dedicated player to understand your limits to be able to actually perform on her. Branching out makes you a better player because you get deeper understanding of enemy champs, but also because you eventually need to start picking for team comp. One tank, one AP, one ad, etc. will likely hold yourself back. Graves and Kayn and viego are all ad, but wildly different champs. Sometimes you need one over the other. Passable vs. main (or OTP) gameplay is just a matter of absolutely maximizing your gameplay, but that can be learned only through playing more games.
There's a chemtank game at start where the hecarim went ninja tabi and won. So it wasnt coolies no matter what, unless he sold/swapped them. Game can be spotted around 6:20
I would love to see a breakdown of sorts, for each role. Where for every single elo, just 1 thing is pointed out that you should be working on. To give an example: Neace made a video a while back with a breakdown of the Elos, with a small list of things that say... a Silver player should work and focus on. Now break that down even further, and make it so Silver 4: One thing to work on. Silver 3: One thing to work on. Etc. etc. for every single Elo from Iron IV, all the way to Grandmaster. This would accomplish several things: It makes things extremely manageable and less overwhelming, because at any given time, you only have to remember, and work on, that one specific thing. That means you work more consistently on it, and you see tangible improvement faster. For the 'coach' it also helps their ability to teach overall, not because they are giving the client more specific advice, but because making a list like that makes them think about the game, and the flaws and requirements of each Elo in a different way.
I have absolutely no problem with the f key cameras. I check them often and all that. What gives me a hard time in this game camera wise is the "NORMAL" camera control that everyone think is fine. Im used to controling the camera with WASD in all rts games i play for ages. And in league i cant actually do that because it kinda "hurt" my game because i have to shift every command around. At one time i used to play like WASD camera, f1 to f4 camera hotkey, 1234 abilities, q and e sum spells, zxcvrfg items / trinket, ' to target champ only \ to stop the champion and mouse 4 to attack move click. And some combos/mechanics that are so easy to pull off using the default controls are just A PAIN to do with those keybinds. Im not testing a different keybind scheme but i need to learn to control the camera with the mouse thing is I HATE DOING IT. I dont like dragin the camera around with the mouse i never done it in ANY GAME IN MY LIFE it is completely counter intuitive at least for me. I dont play with locked camera since i started to play league because as i said i always bind the camera controls to wasd in all top down/rts game.
I understand exactly what Neace is talking about in all of his videos. Even when watching pro plays I try to assume who will do what in the next 30 to 60 sec and I get it right most of the time. Why the fuck am I GOLD fucking 4 for fuck sake? Where is the problem??
I’m an Eve main currently in silver 2 and I definitely felt what he said about paying your team back when playing a farming powerspike champion I usually find that around 10-15 minutes is when I come alive and secure a double or a kill, I’ve played many games where my lanes are hard losing and I show up with level 6 and an item spike and turn the game around
I'd like to add here: At 26:50 if you think you have too much time until respawn you can always take a peek into the enemy jungle before backing. If not for camps then for warding.
I'm weird when it comes to Locked camera in that instead of pressing spacebar on unlocked I just toggle my lock camera button like 20 times per minute lol
I used to do this a ton but finally made the switch and it took quite a bit of time to get used to completely unlocked but was well worth it because I can use F-keys real fast and then spacebar back to my champ.
I've never had locked camera, it never even occurred to me that anyone would have it locked. Maybe because I come from RTS's like C&C and StarCraft, where there is nothing to lock the camera to.
I'd like to ask a question to Neace and all of my fellow commenters, he described Udyr as being good for low elo junglers, Im a returner previously gold 1 but right now if I did ranked I'd be bronze most likely. When I first started my friends told me Udyr is bad becuase he brings nothing to a teamfight and can be kited too easily, has something changed to make him be amazing to pick up or?
11:30 "I'm fine with where I am, but I want to improve. It makes no sense. You have to be fine with letting go of what you're comfortable with, because a lot of what you're comfortable with is bad habits."
Now that is some LIFE advice.
It does make sense. You can actively seek to improve while being happy. Nothing necessarily self-negating in that mindset. Guess it can be helpful but I definitely don't need to be disgusted about my current self to consider and partake change.
Hey, whatever works for you.
@@DamianSzajnowski Not being happy with where you are at in a specific aspect you want to learn about does not need to become unhappiness with everything else. That is the path to anger and self hatred and anger and self hatred lead to the dark side. =)
That said though how we language things is a more accurate measure of our thoughts than you might think. I don't coach League but I do teach people and when they come to me and say "I want to learn this. I mean I am happy with were I am at but..." I literally say "Stop. Repeat the first sentence. Good now you are done. If you were happy with where you are we would not be having this conversation." The more they push back on being happy with where they are the less likely it is they will apply what I am about to teach them... because they already mentally have given them selves an out... and if you pay attention to language you hear people do this to themselves all the time. Hell I still do it after my teachers pointed it out over and over.
There can be a long list of reasons why and none of them matter really. The first step in asking for help is admitting there are things you actively want to change.
This is not the same as saying "I love League and it makes me happy and I want to get better at it." That is a whole other conversation and a much more positive way to look at learning. I love League and have played it for a while now... and there are moments when how I play it really annoys me but over all playing still makes me happy. If it didn't I would stop.
me listening to them talk about locked camera while having my camera never locked in my lol expierence, big brain
Yea I started playing in 2010. I didn't even know there was a locked in camera until a couple years later i accidentally clicked one of the hotkeys for it and I was like wtf is this make it stop lol
Locked camera is so awkward.
There are pros that still like locked cam
It was locked on default but I play WC3. I told my brother wtf is this shit and how do I turn it off
@@onixtheone neace would yell at them for that and leveling by hand
Bootcamp... I've gone from Silver 4 to Silver 1 in just a single week. I'm almost caught up to my peak rank already, and I'm hoping to continue this trajectory and more! Phylaris was an AMAZING coach/speaker, his insight was great. It's very clear the amount of work that Neace and his team have put into this project, and it's just incredible. Thanks Neace & team!
Nice, my friend. I got silver 4 yesterday and I'm going to aim for silver 1 in the next few days!
you dont need bootcamp to climb within a division. just watch Virkayu's jungling guide and see the difference between challenger & silver/gold clear.
NEACE is a gift that keeps on giving
very nice words Mazy.
Honnestly Neace, I feel very fortunate you share these discussions with everyone and not just the bootcamp subscribers. Thanks a bunch.
NEACE great videos, however, if i can offer constructive criticism. When having a guest speaker, especially one that is eager to speak and give info like Phylaris, don't feel pressures to interject as much as it is interrupting the flow of your guest speaker. Work more from an interviewer's perspective rather than a co-host
Again thanks for all the jungling videos, appreciate the work you put in
I agree, Neace kinda was looking for approval of the way he coaches I felt, rather than just interview him and let the dude expand our brains a bit, great content though
as a sliver jungler playing mainly hec I love this
Me too! I tried the chemtech build last night and hated it. I didn't understand the CD boots rush, and I just had no damage potential after mid game. Now I know what's up
Hecarim has really good damage already, imo Chemtank is great for more utility
Try out Volibear/ Olaf / Khazix
phylaris is actually the real deal with jungle content. This dude is sooooo underrated
Yeah good vídeo and really informative, i Will check his chan el layer
Did you know if nocturne ults, you can still use F(x) keys to hover your teammates and find out who he's going on during his darkness?
if you play adc you won't use this tip cause it's always you the target😂😂
Really? Can you shen ult them too?
@@ma-cg1il not 100%, but I don't think so... pretty sure she needs to target the champion or champion icon near death timers, and I think they disappear...
You find nocturne because his q and abilities still show through the darkness and you'll see it when F(1-5) pulls your screen to where your teammate is.
@@ma-cg1il no cause you wont have anything to click on
@@ma-cg1il no, but You can shen ult during noc ult if You use quick silver
31:30 this is me. I don't know how to balance farming and skirmishing
Same, I either have high farm or high damage, never both
Lmao after spamming mundo for 50 games i manage to get both, play mundo and u ll learn fundementals (extra tip watch neace lol)
@@tiagokarimi2136 Same
That is where you want to pick up the "60 seconds ahead assessment". You've got the farm and clearing down so learn to assess the wave management or objective timers so that you clear into the proximity of the goal like they talk about in the video
Tons of value. Loved the Mundo discussion towards the end. Picking mundo is like an IOU to every teammate and you cash that in once you get strong.
This video had so many pin drop moments for me, holy crap. Great addition to the channel, Neace.
I love these conversations with other high elo players. I can tell neace learns something talking to them too. I would love more of these!
This conversation was FUCKING AWESOME! The amount of things I've started to realize about jungle camps is ridiculous. Keep on bringing cool guys like Phylaris and Riste, Neace. Excellent job!
My two favorite educational lol figures! Love you novo armor
This video literally won me an unwinnable game…mid and bot were inting hard and my pathing was top down, but I noticed my top was 1-0 so I saw a good opportunity to reverse my clear to always be there for the one lane we had a hope of winning. Even though the dude got fed af, he hard inted and got repeat ganked and roamed on, but was fed enough to have the confidence to at least chunk the dudes enough to set me up for some cleanup double kills. I have never reversed my clear and this was such an epic tip. Neace I watch your videos every day and most days they’re the best part of my day. Thank you guys so much for your awesome content, especially you gramps 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
This is greatest jungle advice for someone in the mid to advance level of jungling. This is seriously advice that’s worth MONEY
AMAZING CONTENT!!! This chat is so insightful, questions I didn't even know I had to ask. Thank you Neace.
this man needs more views. hes actually really insightful
I started playing League with locked cam because its the first game that I've ever played with that top down camera and I couldn't handle it. Only until about few months ago I forced myself to use freecam and it help me enormously with my map awareness/macro and discovered that the f keys exists, especially when I was trying to learn mid at the same time.
still rewatching this and getting more insight from phylaris every time!
This is hands down the best video on jungling i've ever seen. As a plat player who has the "train track" down but feels lost and hit a wall, this is exactly what I needed
Just had some coaching with Phylaris, was an extremely nice guy. Would recommend him to anyone and I’ll be rebooking once I’ve got better at the concepts we went over together.
YOOO! I love Phylaris! His videos have helped my fundamentals so much, that I recommend his stuff to everyone!!
The second half of the video actually got me into Diamond after being hardstuck forever. Bless
I liked phylaris already with how important his clear-speed resources are but HOly fuck he's smart. Thanks for this.
This is awesome. You can’t find stuff like this online.
this is online...
this is literally online tho
this video is the reason i got to diamond and stopped. waaay over my head most of these concepts. i got to diamond using a huge crutch(never ever ganking bot lane, powerfarming basically all day everyday, win the game because you're 3 levels up on your enemy, understanding lane states just by lokking at the matchup and minimap - aka never axtually looking at the lane)
Coach Neace smart as fuck to be able to recognise when to let a Hecarim SME talk and when to contribute his own knowledge and experience. Love it man. Appreciate you from a fellow war veteran. Thanks for the lessons and keep them coming coach.
"...and I GUARUNTEE you will learn." Oh, Mr. Editor...
I’m a lower ELO jungle but I really hate when I see junglers that have no idea how to treat your lanes waves and they end failing a gank and take a minion that leads to the wave slow pushing towards tower
this is what i really missed on your youtube and streams! thanks a lot
This is the best jungle info video I've ever watched, and I've watched a lot of them. This is the in depth stuff that can really matter in the long run. I'm low ELO right now but I'm still learning, and I want to build good habits now as I climb so I can keep climbing.
The begining of this video is actually alot like life lessons, very good discussion.
Brilliant. Especially the jungle pathing efficiency & camp timing advice.
Love it. I didn't Seen it yet. But i Love it while watching. Like everytime. Neace is the coolest!
you must always remember that most people are ordinary, no guides and training or coaching will help them,
they will stay at their level forever
This was so so so so good
There was so much good information in this video that I sat down and took a full page of notes. Thanks for giving us this content, Neace! My understanding of the game is seriously evolving.
Get my like and comment. I never do this stuff. I'm a jungler main and Hecarim main at that. So this was very informative.
Welcome Phylaris! Glad to see Neace doing shit like this.
from playing age of empires 2 it literally is 1-9 control groups for units, buillding hotkeys, ect. it is literally a game of a jump camera that really helped me, i never use F keys in lol but the moment i try tto it so easy,
obvc ive had practise but it really isnt too difficult if you play some other games,
Good guy phylaris showing me how to clear on every champion👌🏽
22:00 brooooo u had the question for so long now, thank heaven someone can answer it.
This blows my mind how much strategy goes into high level play into this game. I love this. The jungle timer strategy, camera control. ... now if I can just stop playing with a locked screen... maybe never, I think for me doing that would mean a commitment to play to climb rank. Still very interesting
You are doing a great job! big up!
So much good information here. Bookmarked for referencing !
I needed help with the timers! Thank you
love your content as a whole, but this was really awesome. Thanks !
even for a bronze player like me. (just started after a 9 yr pause) this is very interesting just because I get to see the possibilities in pathing and other stuff. thank you for this video!
If anyone is stuck in iron and bronze make sure you are practicing your cs for 30 minutes before you hop into a game and when you are in a game actually look at the map. Look at opportunities when jungling and playing top. Look for mid roams when playing support. You'll get to silver soon. Like every single time the jungler ganja it's literally the same path cos they are bronze and kinda dumb. 75 for a control ward is worth if you can cs correctly. Press tab look at item choices as well. The main item choice at he moment is boots. Treads or tabi, magic resist or armor. That's the main decision don't worry about mythics or custom builds yet just build core from u.gg I see so many people building armor into a team of ap it's kinda weird. Don't auto pilot. For junglers just use mute all. Go farm and look for opportunities don't just auto pilot farming your jungle. And do not sit in he side bush for 30 minutes waiting for a gank.
The pathing tips were huge thanks
I'm so conflicted with league. I really really want to be a good player, but just find the whole experience so negative. I'm not sure I'm cut out for it.
@Indi Anon I lost my gold promos the other day to a shen who just did not want to win on Wednesday. I was full of rage so I took a day long break. Guess what, got trash teams which messed up my mood as well and lost 7 in a row
It's really fun if you play with nice people, which is hard. So I recommend you add any pleasant people you find in solo queue, and also, if you're doing bad, camp your tower and farm CS. It's always better to stay cautious and camp your towers if you're laning
That's cause it's rigged. If you win too much, they force you to lose. Gbay99, career diamond couldn't hit diamond last year for the first time and ended in plat with around 800 games. When Riot/Tencent wants you to lose, it's like playing poker with no hole cards.
@@ownthevoid you’d be amazed how quickly nice people can turn in a losing game
@@lostandfound6501 you’re assuming that the level of play remains the same over time. Challenger players today would smash challenger players from season 3
after this video ive carried and won my last 5 matches and got gold III! ty so much
Thank you for all the videos man
I have seen Neace play in Plat in Korea 2 years later and his camera was pretty much 99% on his jungle champion.
Absolutely golden
there is nothing wrong with using lock cam as long as you actually use the camera, I just got so used to using the mini map camera drag and f keys, you can hold cam on mini map with right click and use left click to reposition, like I have super high sensitivity on my mouse but also have a button on the side that instantly cuts it in half or less so using the map isnt an issue, I could see myself using semi locked in the future but never free cam that shit annoys me so much ending up on the other side of the map during an intense fight
i just switched Y with spacebar, so i have my camera locked and whenever i need to move it i can easily hit spacebar
Another great video man!
Other video was depressing so I watch this one. Imma call jungling dribbling now.
Such a great video.
Most importantly just pick an easy champion. Like annie mid, garen top, mundo jungle, maokai support and ashe adc. The reason ashe is picked for adc is it helps with her utility. When your team is full bronze and you see an opportunity to go in, ult in to initiate it. Use your e for vision and wards. Your e isn't a control ward but gives your full team vision of enemy jungle it helps a lot and if you fall behind you have slows so you aren't fully useless.
So what do you do if, let's say, our midlaner goes 0/5 and is constantly pushed underneath his own turret. Should we continue to path and clear and ignore him?
I've noticed that a lot of mid/bot players ping assist on me before I've even done 2 camps.
“Feel free to skip around with timestamps” uhhhhh ok
I am in noob Gold, but I still benefit from this, thank you.
Love the video I found it very Informative.
Exceptional video props to the other homie
The first thing I tell someone when I hear that they use locked cam is that their own champion is the last thing they want to look at, since it is the easiest thing to keep track of without direct visual confirmation. If you unexpectedly get attacked while not looking at your champ, it's not an unlocked cam problem, you just needed better intel on the enemies' movements. Same thing with pathing errors, it's generally your own fault when your champ paths directly to their death, not the unlocked camera's.
Main support, watching this to prevent getting ganked
im sad that i just came accross this now. more vids like this please- not a peeping teemo
when my team ask me why i dont gank.... well I DONT WANNA RUIN MY Rhythm and sequence.!!!!
I've been so short sighted 😂 like driving and only looking immediately in front of you on the road, not further up the road. No wonder I crash and burn and fail 😂
Big brain time
so I started playing Taliyah jungle, im only 7 games in, but 6-1, should i just stop and play skarner/udyr/mundo/hec, and worry about Taliyah later, or keep doing it as I am winning games with her?
I like the iteration on the "max 4 champions", I always tried to do this. Once some guy first-timing Evelynn in silver said to me: "300k kayn main? sad" and I was pissed he actually thinks playing a champion for the first time in ranked is a good thing.
Anyway, I was actually always curious. Phylaris says "branch out once you're diamond" and I always thought it's a bad thing to practice new champions in ranked, especially in high elo. I mean I shouldn't care much in silver because I can't really get much lower but once I get into diamond?
Here is the actual question: do you high-elo-players actually practice completely new champions in ranked diamond and not in normal or on some silver smurf account? Isn't it considered trolling if someone tries to get to master and the other one just first-times Lee Sin in his placements?
The four champ rule is for people who are new and cannot perform on the grand scale of the game. Playing a small pool lets you get used to the micro of the champ, so you don’t spend the whole game trying to figure out riven or irelia or lee sin or something. It focuses you onto performing and learning general gameplay. There is no problem playing as many champs as you want, as long as you have passable mechanics and the correct macro plays. Some champs like evelynn need you to be a dedicated player to understand your limits to be able to actually perform on her.
Branching out makes you a better player because you get deeper understanding of enemy champs, but also because you eventually need to start picking for team comp. One tank, one AP, one ad, etc. will likely hold yourself back. Graves and Kayn and viego are all ad, but wildly different champs. Sometimes you need one over the other. Passable vs. main (or OTP) gameplay is just a matter of absolutely maximizing your gameplay, but that can be learned only through playing more games.
There's a chemtank game at start where the hecarim went ninja tabi and won. So it wasnt coolies no matter what, unless he sold/swapped them. Game can be spotted around 6:20
Best jg video EVER.
“First!” I triumphantly shout together with like 26 other guys
Haha yep
Hey Neace, what is your opinion about the ad assassin's items gold efficienc, why are all of them below 100% G.E?
I would love to see a breakdown of sorts, for each role.
Where for every single elo, just 1 thing is pointed out that you should be working on.
To give an example: Neace made a video a while back with a breakdown of the Elos, with a small list of things that say... a Silver player should work and focus on.
Now break that down even further, and make it so Silver 4: One thing to work on. Silver 3: One thing to work on. Etc. etc. for every single Elo from Iron IV, all the way to Grandmaster.
This would accomplish several things: It makes things extremely manageable and less overwhelming, because at any given time, you only have to remember, and work on, that one specific thing.
That means you work more consistently on it, and you see tangible improvement faster.
For the 'coach' it also helps their ability to teach overall, not because they are giving the client more specific advice, but because making a list like that makes them think about the game, and the flaws and requirements of each Elo in a different way.
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I have absolutely no problem with the f key cameras. I check them often and all that.
What gives me a hard time in this game camera wise is the "NORMAL" camera control that everyone think is fine.
Im used to controling the camera with WASD in all rts games i play for ages.
And in league i cant actually do that because it kinda "hurt" my game because i have to shift every command around.
At one time i used to play like WASD camera, f1 to f4 camera hotkey, 1234 abilities, q and e sum spells, zxcvrfg items / trinket, ' to target champ only \ to stop the champion and mouse 4 to attack move click. And some combos/mechanics that are so easy to pull off using the default controls are just A PAIN to do with those keybinds.
Im not testing a different keybind scheme but i need to learn to control the camera with the mouse thing is I HATE DOING IT. I dont like dragin the camera around with the mouse i never done it in ANY GAME IN MY LIFE it is completely counter intuitive at least for me. I dont play with locked camera since i started to play league because as i said i always bind the camera controls to wasd in all top down/rts game.
As a silver jungler, I'm going to have to watch this twice... at least...
solid video
31:44 what happens is .. when a fire start to burn.. right? Is a super cool song xX
I understand exactly what Neace is talking about in all of his videos. Even when watching pro plays I try to assume who will do what in the next 30 to 60 sec and I get it right most of the time. Why the fuck am I GOLD fucking 4 for fuck sake? Where is the problem??
I’m an Eve main currently in silver 2 and I definitely felt what he said about paying your team back when playing a farming powerspike champion I usually find that around 10-15 minutes is when I come alive and secure a double or a kill, I’ve played many games where my lanes are hard losing and I show up with level 6 and an item spike and turn the game around
I'd like to add here: At 26:50 if you think you have too much time until respawn you can always take a peek into the enemy jungle before backing. If not for camps then for warding.
im really considering booking a coaching with phylaris, made so many things i had doubts about clear
you missed a great title opportunity, jungle Phylosophy! lol
I'm weird when it comes to Locked camera in that instead of pressing spacebar on unlocked I just toggle my lock camera button like 20 times per minute lol
I used to do this a ton but finally made the switch and it took quite a bit of time to get used to completely unlocked but was well worth it because I can use F-keys real fast and then spacebar back to my champ.
a nice way to practice cam contorw is to play some 1 like ramus where you justt sit there and the mob have to hit you :D
wow really helpful thanks!
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Dekar has amazing camera control. If you ever watch him play Rengar jungle.
I've never had locked camera, it never even occurred to me that anyone would have it locked. Maybe because I come from RTS's like C&C and StarCraft, where there is nothing to lock the camera to.
This dude is legit.
Micro is needed to get information, macro is what you do with it
I'd like to ask a question to Neace and all of my fellow commenters, he described Udyr as being good for low elo junglers, Im a returner previously gold 1 but right now if I did ranked I'd be bronze most likely.
When I first started my friends told me Udyr is bad becuase he brings nothing to a teamfight and can be kited too easily, has something changed to make him be amazing to pick up or?
I practice and I practice but I never get any better. ~Squidbob
he said champions
I run turbo chemtank on Rell and swift cd boots movement be fun especially with glacial.