Fun fact about the extra gnarly distortion: what you're seeing is called "phase reversal" and it's an artifact in a lot of op amps (including the very popular TL072). Basically when a signal hits the negative limit, the output will shoot to the positive rail. If you do this to a typical waveform it will add basically an extra wiggle to the wave, which sounds like a harsh overtone. It's a big part of the sound of certain pedals and people don't even realize it! Love y'all 😘
1. You're the best for updating Condor gen 1. That is such a cool thing to offer. 2. Using an oscilloscope in a pedal video is a 10/10 idea. I would love to see a video done where you use the Pre amp MKii and try to recreate other pedal tones.
So what you're telling us is that we need the OG and the mkII and to stack them :) Also, I love seeing the throwback video style of just Joel, a pedal, and a white backdrop
I love the white background as a callback to the power rail distortion video Joel did on the original Condor. My Condor is amazing at the end of my gain-staging, and the increased headroom will help me out a ton. Ordered my upgrade - such a cool option to give to customers. Have been a longstanding fan of the company and your practices, and it's very rewarding to see that you value us customers like that. Congrats as well on the success of the D2C model. It's great that puts your team in a better position to do things like this.
The Condor has been the heart of my sound for over four years now. Absolutely astonishing. Thick, juicy, rich. Works on both guitar and bass and acoustic. I cannot live without it. I pair it with GFI Cabzeus and the tone gets INSANE. Will send it in for the upgrade soon.
Even though I have an original (with no plans to remove it from my board) this HiFi version will either replace my MkI or be the backup. Great job Chase Bliss!
CB doing the update for OG Condor owners is such an awesome thing for a company to do. Makes you feel like every dollar spent on CB products is appreciated. Also always love Joel. More Joel please!
Love this video, Chase Bliss and my Condor. Jumping at the chance to upgrade the board. The only thing missing from this video is the sound of the new Condor with high gain on its own 😅
Just going to mirror everyone else and say it's so great of you to allow folks to update their older pedals for such a low cost and to be able to revist an old friend in a new way. Y'all are the best.
Condor HiFi update arrived today. It's really great on the Fender humbucker / Jerry G style of clean sound pushing into overdrive. Lots of headroom as advertised. Morningstar midi controller to set the EQ. I love the old Condor too, but this Hifi hits the sweet spot.
I can't even afford this, but this video was SO satisfying and Joel seems such an awesome person to have as a friend and as a coworker, and Chase Bliss pedals opened the world of tones and effects to me, to be really open to all kinds of expressions. I really hope one day I'll be able to buy one of their pedals, maybe a year from now, I'll reply to this when I get the chance 🌹
I think this is brilliant. Part of me wants to send in mine for the upgrade (generous offer). But another part of me says that I already *have* one, and any new board I use is one less that's available to another person to discover the Condor. So I'm going to defer to that person. Note that it can do a passable Uni-Vibe imitation when the mids are set for a shallow dip (leftmost toggle position) and the LFO sweeps the location of the mid-cut back and forth. If you've ever used a Phase 45 as a cheap vibe substitute, the Condor can do that...and now even cleaner! Kudos, Joel.
Mark, considering the original Condor was essentially your idea, the least I could do is send you a new one. You'll be getting an email this evening :)
OMG YES!!!! I really regretted not getting a Condor when it came out and then they exploded in price! Hope they’ll still be available in around a month’s time🤞
Joel, you convinced me to keep my Condor as-is. My favorite thing to do with it is drive it hard with old Casio keyboards and preset drum machines. It does everything from tone shaping to getting super fucked up as you demoed. I love how completely trashed it can sound in this application.
I read the extra on the Condor HiFi and I def have a recommendation on a “revamp” of a pedal…The Wombtone…I’ve honestly nvr been a fan of bi-phase, so maybe go to the odd order and do like 3-5-6 stage? Or could you add more phase stages to it and do like 4-5-7? It was a really cool pedal, I just like 5-7 stage for some reason…More like the original mutron… And just got a Condor HiFi, got here yesterday and got to play with it tonight! I’m interested in diving in deeper…I’m thinking going with a mid scoop on one preset, a boost of some kind for the other preset and then have a mod/bounce on the middle “preset” and just be able to switch between them! Or something like that! Love it!
I have absolutely no need and no justification to get this one, but I think many people will be very happy with this. Great presentation, even better job on the updated design. And well done giving people the ability to upgrade. Next level stuff. I'll be looking for that Dark World update ;)
I love this very much! Condor was my favorite CB with Thermae. It was sad to see it go and double in price on Reverb. It's also such a good bass preamp too!
Someone is going to HOLD on to the OG pedal. Then years from now when most people upgraded to the new one, Josh from jhs pedals is going to want to find the OG pedal because it will be a super rare pedal with a cool story! Chase bliss is such a great company! Jhs too. They make playing guitar fun!
I've been feeling a little burned out on gear, maybe a bit of NAMM/January hangover. But I think it's physically impossible for me to not get hyped about a new chase bliss pedal.
Very nice to see you doing the video pedal comparison yourself. For my ambient sounds I am very happy to be able to get an upgrade for my Condor with more headroom. This is just awesome customer service. 👌 🙌👏👏👏👏 The only other company who would probably do something like this is AnalogMan.
Yes! Analog heart, digital brain is back ❤ 2000 units is not *that* limited, when you compare it with the 1500 units that were sold without being marketed as a limited device. With that said, people will still buy it and try to sell it for more than the new price, which is crazy. I tried to convince a private seller of a Preamp MKII that he should set his price lower that the official B-Stock price, because he doesn't offer any warranties. He answered "Buy the B-Stock instead". He asked like almost new price. I'd love to pair an Ayahuasca with my Bliss Factory in a dual mono context, but try to find that pedal under 1000€.
I really love the filter from the OG Condor. I use it as a synth style filter with an expression pedal. Did you change something about the filter response? Because in the video it seems as if the filter reacts way more „snappy“ than the old one, where the sweep spot was a little wider.
you meant resonance filter? I'd say it desperately needs TIME control with the glide hidden in secondary knobs' functions. modulation options can also be hidden there instead of dipswitches, I guess.
@@OliverEvergreen No, "clock whine." There is a high frequency whine from the pedal components that (barely audible with normal delays) becomes very loud and obnoxious as it shifts to lower frequencies when you slow down the delays. (Half-time delay will cut the clock whine frequency in half, and so on down into the frequencies of your music). It's been extensively documented and makes the Thermae unusable for those seeking slowed delay/pitch down options. Could surely be solved with a LPF somewhere in the circuit Ref: Thermae whining by itself - /watch?v=GhdKxrFYuDM Ref: Thermae whining over music - /watch?v=8KEkUUlQ1ec
@@basic-decaf Weird, i have never heard a whine out of my thermae yet and I've messed with all the knobs a lot and haven't heard it like in those video examples you posted.
@@BrockDavisson I hear it in every video of the Thermae. It occurs in the slow-mo mode. If you tracked the description, it's confirmed by Chase Bliss through the RMA process to be in them all. Perhaps you haven't used the Thermae in slow-mo, which is where the time is slowed and the pitch is shifted down.
@@basic-decaf I do use it in slow-mo a lot, but have not heard it hmm. Not saying it's not there, just saying I haven't heard it in my stuff yet but I'll see if i can bring it out but then again I don't play super loud. I just did a recording / video with it 4 days ago, it's my latest video on my page here and I didn't get no whine and I was in slow-mo.
I actually really dig that power rail distortion sound. Does the Hifi have any distortion or overdrive characteristic on its own? Or is it more of a "standard" sound?
PLEASE re-release the Bliss-Factory and if it's an updated version even greater, a few ideas for a re-release of the bliss-factory or new "Bilss-Fuzz": * If the Zvex collaboration is not possible you can even come up with your own fuzz version which will give you more freedom to experiment, maybe adding that broken fuzz reminiscent of the Lovetone Big Cheese or some new wild fuzz modern sounds * Adding a HPF so we can choose between the previous LPF and the new HPF and even switching between them via exp/cv * Adding MIDI control to all the parameters * Adding resonance amount control to enable self oscillation so we can play with resonant frequency via MIDI/Exp/CV Cheers!
To put it simply, inflation. We were at a point where we either needed to raise prices to keep our pedals in a traditional retailer model, or go direct and keep prices the same.
Condor HiFi is absolutely available in our EU store! You should be redirected to the site that services your country (.eu for those in the EU, .com for those elswhere).
It's pretty much indistinguishable from the old Condor (of which there are many videos) unless you are hitting the power rails, which is pretty difficult to do on the HiFi since the headroom is so huge.
Sorry, but no. We do not offer an upgrade path for MOOD mk1 to mk2. The difference is Condor HiFi is a mod on the existing hardware from Condor with no software/firmware updates. MOOD mk2 is totally new hardware and software/firmware compared to the mk1. Hope that clears things up! If you have any further questions/concerns you can message help@chasebliss.com
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giving the original owner a chance to update is SO rad!
And covering return shipping costs. Shows they value their customers 🎉
Joel has consistently proven to be a really solid dude.
Giving the original owners a chance to update is one of the numerous reasons why I love this company!
If only Apple would do the same 😂
Donning a moustache that matches the new Condor logo is the best marketing strategy I’ve ever seen 🙌
I miss these classic "Joel talking" demos. Love the new format too of course, but love any/all Joel sightings.
this made me feel really good. thank you for this comment :) -Joel
Fun fact about the extra gnarly distortion: what you're seeing is called "phase reversal" and it's an artifact in a lot of op amps (including the very popular TL072). Basically when a signal hits the negative limit, the output will shoot to the positive rail. If you do this to a typical waveform it will add basically an extra wiggle to the wave, which sounds like a harsh overtone. It's a big part of the sound of certain pedals and people don't even realize it!
Love y'all 😘
That phase reversal through the power rails is what pedals like the Pettyjohn Rail are based around, right?
I really need John to translate stuff for me more often. Probably all pedal designers do. 😅
@@real_anxst no idea! never played any of their stuff.
I'd love an in depth video about such facts
1. You're the best for updating Condor gen 1. That is such a cool thing to offer.
2. Using an oscilloscope in a pedal video is a 10/10 idea. I would love to see a video done where you use the Pre amp MKii and try to recreate other pedal tones.
It made me happy watching Joel made the demo, just like the good old days. I love my condor.
thank you!! it's felt really good to get back in the demo seat and I appreciate this comment! -Joel
$49 is incredibly generous, wow. CBA is an awesome company.
So what you're telling us is that we need the OG and the mkII and to stack them :)
Also, I love seeing the throwback video style of just Joel, a pedal, and a white backdrop
I love the white background as a callback to the power rail distortion video Joel did on the original Condor. My Condor is amazing at the end of my gain-staging, and the increased headroom will help me out a ton. Ordered my upgrade - such a cool option to give to customers. Have been a longstanding fan of the company and your practices, and it's very rewarding to see that you value us customers like that.
Congrats as well on the success of the D2C model. It's great that puts your team in a better position to do things like this.
As an audio guy with a stutter it helped seeing this
Can you please create a stereo version of this pedal? Us synth users would love to be able to utilize this in our rigs and setup!
BIG praise for the ability to update the original. This is a wonderful move
The Condor has been the heart of my sound for over four years now. Absolutely astonishing. Thick, juicy, rich. Works on both guitar and bass and acoustic. I cannot live without it. I pair it with GFI Cabzeus and the tone gets INSANE. Will send it in for the upgrade soon.
What an awesome demo.
Thank you for this video. You all have a way of making me feel calm, and inspired every time.
Even though I have an original (with no plans to remove it from my board) this HiFi version will either replace my MkI or be the backup. Great job Chase Bliss!
Hot damn. Making some of the best pedals on the planet and doing something this rad to support existing owners. Gotta love this!
Love this! I have been hoping for a new CBA dirt pedal for a while - great call in bringing the new edition of the Condor. 👍🏼🙏🏼
There are 3 dirt pedals already out from CBA :)
CB doing the update for OG Condor owners is such an awesome thing for a company to do. Makes you feel like every dollar spent on CB products is appreciated. Also always love Joel. More Joel please!
Guys I love this style of video promo ya'll should do more of these!!
The original owner return for upgrade option is just another reason why Chase Bliss is the BEST company in the world
Love this video, Chase Bliss and my Condor. Jumping at the chance to upgrade the board. The only thing missing from this video is the sound of the new Condor with high gain on its own 😅
Just going to mirror everyone else and say it's so great of you to allow folks to update their older pedals for such a low cost and to be able to revist an old friend in a new way. Y'all are the best.
Congrats joel and CB on another cool pedal / remake!
Condor HiFi update arrived today. It's really great on the Fender humbucker / Jerry G style of clean sound pushing into overdrive. Lots of headroom as advertised. Morningstar midi controller to set the EQ. I love the old Condor too, but this Hifi hits the sweet spot.
Great presentation, great presenter. WANT this new Condor!!!
Joel you’re an endlessly creative and wonderful person. Your pedals are incredible
I can't even afford this, but this video was SO satisfying and Joel seems such an awesome person to have as a friend and as a coworker, and Chase Bliss pedals opened the world of tones and effects to me, to be really open to all kinds of expressions. I really hope one day I'll be able to buy one of their pedals, maybe a year from now, I'll reply to this when I get the chance 🌹
I think this is brilliant. Part of me wants to send in mine for the upgrade (generous offer). But another part of me says that I already *have* one, and any new board I use is one less that's available to another person to discover the Condor. So I'm going to defer to that person. Note that it can do a passable Uni-Vibe imitation when the mids are set for a shallow dip (leftmost toggle position) and the LFO sweeps the location of the mid-cut back and forth. If you've ever used a Phase 45 as a cheap vibe substitute, the Condor can do that...and now even cleaner! Kudos, Joel.
Mark, considering the original Condor was essentially your idea, the least I could do is send you a new one. You'll be getting an email this evening :)
Joel, you're amazing man
@@joshbabbitt9243 Correct, on all counts.
Dude.
Your pedals are next level.
I love you Chase Bliss. My mind is blown. Signed up for the update.
Interesting move having the sheriff from Stranger Things play Joel Korte
OMG YES!!!! I really regretted not getting a Condor when it came out and then they exploded in price! Hope they’ll still be available in around a month’s time🤞
ordered this immediately. glad I held off on the secondary market condors!!
Joel, you convinced me to keep my Condor as-is. My favorite thing to do with it is drive it hard with old Casio keyboards and preset drum machines. It does everything from tone shaping to getting super fucked up as you demoed. I love how completely trashed it can sound in this application.
still remember that whiskey moment from the original condor vid :) also, highly appreciate so down to earth explanation. Joel, you're awesome.
I read the extra on the Condor HiFi and I def have a recommendation on a “revamp” of a pedal…The Wombtone…I’ve honestly nvr been a fan of bi-phase, so maybe go to the odd order and do like 3-5-6 stage? Or could you add more phase stages to it and do like 4-5-7? It was a really cool pedal, I just like 5-7 stage for some reason…More like the original mutron…
And just got a Condor HiFi, got here yesterday and got to play with it tonight! I’m interested in diving in deeper…I’m thinking going with a mid scoop on one preset, a boost of some kind for the other preset and then have a mod/bounce on the middle “preset” and just be able to switch between them! Or something like that! Love it!
I love when Joel is showing off the equipment. Viva la chase bliss
I have absolutely no need and no justification to get this one, but I think many people will be very happy with this. Great presentation, even better job on the updated design. And well done giving people the ability to upgrade. Next level stuff.
I'll be looking for that Dark World update ;)
Loved the presentation of this, very authentic!
I love this very much!
Condor was my favorite CB with Thermae. It was sad to see it go and double in price on Reverb.
It's also such a good bass preamp too!
Someone is going to HOLD on to the OG pedal. Then years from now when most people upgraded to the new one, Josh from jhs pedals is going to want to find the OG pedal because it will be a super rare pedal with a cool story! Chase bliss is such a great company! Jhs too. They make playing guitar fun!
have not bought one of your pedals but that discounted update pricing makes me put you guys in the highly consider pile now. cheers
Classic video style ❤❤❤
Offering to upgrade the old units is such a rad thing to do.
Lovin' the Starby mustache, Joel!
I dig the “Gnarly Torn Speaker mode” in OG Condor🤘
I've been feeling a little burned out on gear, maybe a bit of NAMM/January hangover. But I think it's physically impossible for me to not get hyped about a new chase bliss pedal.
Very nice to see you doing the video pedal comparison yourself.
For my ambient sounds I am very happy to be able to get an upgrade for my Condor with more headroom.
This is just awesome customer service. 👌 🙌👏👏👏👏
The only other company who would probably do something like this is AnalogMan.
I always boosted into my Condor, after the two gain stages in RC Booster 2 was such a cool clipping characteristic - fuzztortion style :) :)
Laughed out loud when you said the wave form is trash haha
The Wizard has come down from his mountain and brought us another bit of alchemy.
Love how dirty and gnarly or completely in control this can be. Might need to buy one 😅
This is the best video I have ever watched
That’s a meaty tone at the end there!
Winners and STILL CHAMPIONS!!!!
Got mine today …trying it out tomorrow cant wait
Love it! I just wish you guys would do a dedicated filter pedal. Sending email to you tonight!
Joel I can’t believe the progress
U made with your stutter , congrats 👏
Bath! I just went to Bath. I showed my brother your Thermae Video, while we were visiting the Roman baths!
Joel is just the coolest dude.
Loved the video, thanks Chase Bliss!
I’m broke af
But I love y’all
The mood and habit are legendary
Yes! Analog heart, digital brain is back ❤
2000 units is not *that* limited, when you compare it with the 1500 units that were sold without being marketed as a limited device.
With that said, people will still buy it and try to sell it for more than the new price, which is crazy.
I tried to convince a private seller of a Preamp MKII that he should set his price lower that the official B-Stock price, because he doesn't offer any warranties. He answered "Buy the B-Stock instead". He asked like almost new price.
I'd love to pair an Ayahuasca with my Bliss Factory in a dual mono context, but try to find that pedal under 1000€.
I really love the filter from the OG Condor. I use it as a synth style filter with an expression pedal. Did you change something about the filter response? Because in the video it seems as if the filter reacts way more „snappy“ than the old one, where the sweep spot was a little wider.
1. Love the oscilloscope
2. This actually makes me want a Condor mkI
3. Any chance a gravitas HiFi is in the works?
Wooo a new power supply how exciting.
Please, release a Warped Vinyl Stereo :)
Love your video/comparison by the way! ;)
And dare I say a stereo preamp automatone (or Condor Mk3) for my stereo synths ;)
Chase Bliss and Joel are so damn awesome!
Very dope!!!
You and your fx pedals fucking amazingggg love u guys
Cool old Martin!!
great video!
fantastic.
Fingers crossed you guys release a "HiFi" Thermae with no clock whine!
you meant resonance filter? I'd say it desperately needs TIME control with the glide hidden in secondary knobs' functions. modulation options can also be hidden there instead of dipswitches, I guess.
@@OliverEvergreen No, "clock whine." There is a high frequency whine from the pedal components that (barely audible with normal delays) becomes very loud and obnoxious as it shifts to lower frequencies when you slow down the delays. (Half-time delay will cut the clock whine frequency in half, and so on down into the frequencies of your music). It's been extensively documented and makes the Thermae unusable for those seeking slowed delay/pitch down options. Could surely be solved with a LPF somewhere in the circuit
Ref: Thermae whining by itself - /watch?v=GhdKxrFYuDM
Ref: Thermae whining over music - /watch?v=8KEkUUlQ1ec
@@basic-decaf Weird, i have never heard a whine out of my thermae yet and I've messed with all the knobs a lot and haven't heard it like in those video examples you posted.
@@BrockDavisson I hear it in every video of the Thermae. It occurs in the slow-mo mode. If you tracked the description, it's confirmed by Chase Bliss through the RMA process to be in them all. Perhaps you haven't used the Thermae in slow-mo, which is where the time is slowed and the pitch is shifted down.
@@basic-decaf I do use it in slow-mo a lot, but have not heard it hmm. Not saying it's not there, just saying I haven't heard it in my stuff yet but I'll see if i can bring it out but then again I don't play super loud. I just did a recording / video with it 4 days ago, it's my latest video on my page here and I didn't get no whine and I was in slow-mo.
anybody knows what this guitar is called?
Overdrive? EQ? Both? Did you say what this is?
The new one might not clip to hell, but it boosts the noisefloor even higher!
Part EQ, part filter, and part overdrive, it’s all there!
great video
Will the new ones have the original version option available via a dipswitch, like the mood mk2?
Have you considered providing this gadget to Neil Young?
Having him endorse this might go far in enhancing its popularity.
I actually really dig that power rail distortion sound. Does the Hifi have any distortion or overdrive characteristic on its own? Or is it more of a "standard" sound?
It has its own character for sure, just not the gnarly power rail distortion of the OG
Joel is the man
That's a cool guitar!
CB so goated
“That’s really f***ed up, in a really cool way”
- Joel 2024
Is this like a compression pedal? Because im looking for one for my dawless setup. Thanks
Nope. Condor is EQ/Filter/Preamp. No compression
Wow. Great!
Hey that’s the guitar Dave Heuman uses!
where can i buy that exact jacket
PLEASE re-release the Bliss-Factory and if it's an updated version even greater, a few ideas for a re-release of the bliss-factory or new "Bilss-Fuzz":
* If the Zvex collaboration is not possible you can even come up with your own fuzz version which will give you more freedom to experiment, maybe adding that broken fuzz reminiscent of the Lovetone Big Cheese or some new wild fuzz modern sounds
* Adding a HPF so we can choose between the previous LPF and the new HPF and even switching between them via exp/cv
* Adding MIDI control to all the parameters
* Adding resonance amount control to enable self oscillation so we can play with resonant frequency via MIDI/Exp/CV
Cheers!
This! ❤
What's the name of this guitar brand?? This guitar is so beautiful
Martin
Nice, but i find it very odd your prices stay the same after you skipped retail. What is the reason for that?
To put it simply, inflation. We were at a point where we either needed to raise prices to keep our pedals in a traditional retailer model, or go direct and keep prices the same.
You are a good dude
That’s a cool looking guitar. Anyone know what the make is?
Martin
Cool 0edal!
A new PHASER pedal would be awesome!!!
Will it be available in the EU store as well (link in the email is just to USA store and it’s not on the EU store yet)?
Condor HiFi is absolutely available in our EU store! You should be redirected to the site that services your country (.eu for those in the EU, .com for those elswhere).
You were gain stacking them, so it sounded like toilet and lo-fi, not hi-fi, so i didn't really get an indicator of the headroom
It's pretty much indistinguishable from the old Condor (of which there are many videos) unless you are hitting the power rails, which is pretty difficult to do on the HiFi since the headroom is so huge.
wait - can we also update mood to mood mk2? cause I was pretty pissed about buying the mk1 a month before mk2 came out...
Sorry, but no. We do not offer an upgrade path for MOOD mk1 to mk2. The difference is Condor HiFi is a mod on the existing hardware from Condor with no software/firmware updates. MOOD mk2 is totally new hardware and software/firmware compared to the mk1.
Hope that clears things up! If you have any further questions/concerns you can message help@chasebliss.com
@@ChaseBlissAudio bummer, but thanks for even replying!