My favorite part of the newer starter box... is the two reavers. One of my favorite memories is Games Day US in Baltimore 2004/5. Big table game with an actual Reaver Titan and it’s always stuck in my head since then. Something about the design that isn’t replicated or touched on in the same way for the other titans. It’s almost HR Giger meets Gundam, but not quite. Definitely grabbing this box.
I've been getting AT since its relaunch and love it but one thing that irritated me was that when you got a model you didn't get the weapon cards or control terminal card you would need. They would be 2 additional purchases so a Warlord would be £60 for the model £15 for the terminal pack and £7.50 for the weapon card pack. Thankfully with the new Warbringer Nemesis they are including them in with the model! Took them long enough.
That killed my interest as well. At the prices they're charging, there's no excuse whatsoever for forcing us to buy mandatory gameplay tools separate from the models for these. This isn't AoS or 40K where you can easily print out stat cards for playing the game, there's too much data tracking to be done in AT for that.
I'm disappointed how little this games seems to have caught on around here. Too bad this wasn't the original box set, as I imagine it'd have caught on much better. Maybe this new box will cause it to pickup.
@@steenjacobsen1474 it is still 6mm. They just stopped making the Titans in 3mm for no good reason. You might have heard that a Space Marine would be 8mm tall in AT? That doesn’t actually mean the scale changed, just that they’re finally being accurate with it.
@@randombloke82 No it just bloody means that alle our titans of old are useless..... It is a moneygrab. - but then its GW so we are kind of used to that.
@@steenjacobsen1474 such a GW thing to do and it drives me nuts. I understand they are a business out to make money but the way the snub their most loyal fans with shit like this is just awful.
I really want to like Adeptus Titanicus, I do. I built my imperial knight army because I love big robots. Titanicus is one of my favorite black library books, and I have every titan or Imperial knight book. But they price everything at full 40k pricing for a niche side game almost no-one plays, with an entirely different rule set you have to teach people. The one decent starter set with each type of titan is no longer available. It also fails at being a box game because there are so many mandatory supplement books that are, again, full 40k premium price. To even get one of each titan for collecting purposes costs over $300. This is like them pricing the pitifully small Blackstone Fortress expansions at full boardgame prices.
Dammit GW, I'm tying to reduce the number games I am trying to play, not increase it! But this box is so good!!! The next thing they will do is release an updated battlefleet gothic....I DARE YOU GW!..... no really... do it!
The value of this set is phenomenal, and that's before you go to third party retailers who will knock off 20-25% of the cost here in the UK. I've seen copies going for £67.50 ($87) which means you are getting the rule book, the warhounds and the knight for free.
Big fan of your content Ash. As an original version fan of that era, I chose to give the grand master box a miss as it was far too expensive and seemed a world away from the original boxed game. This does seem more like it (also comes with my two favourite titan types). Which do you prefer to play Ash, this latest boxed version or the original epic one from years ago?
Cripes, they repeated that idiocy with the maniples in the rulebook requiring extra models to legally build? It's better than last time in that there's one you can do, but the other two require 1-2 extra warlords to play. It's too much to ask new players to go spend money on another book or worse, a Warlord to try pother maniples. You're absolutely correct, the "no Warlord" maniples from Doom should have been in the book as well, or in place of the ones they chose to use. This is not how to help the game gain traction, GW. Good box for existing players, but as a new-player-friendly box, could have been smarter about it.
A good starter box really helps the game. Glad if if this is a set me and someone can buy two off and use all the models (not a lot off unique/prebuilt limited stuff). The scale is great but the packaging awful where I have, had?, to buy a box, a pack of cards, find dice somewhere...
Thanks ash , sure even without holepunching can just lightly file backends , love titanicus for same reason you do , just love doing my own legio though , slaanesh based :)
The fact that I ordered some MESBG releases for my b-day last week, and the price point for this box is $150, makes me sad... I could have had rockem sockem robots on my b-day.
Good overview. Shame they went paperback on the rulebook, as I rather like the slim hardcovers. The new control panels explains why the Reaver pack has been on Last Chance to Order for a few months.
For me the death knell was setting it during the Heresy. I understand from the PoV of the game being a risk and spending on new moulds for loads of different titans would be too much but...I don't care about Imperial Titans. I play Epic. I have Imperial Titans. I have plenty of them and I won't buy your new generic boring looking kits for them. If they'd set it in the 41st millenium they'd have Chaos Titans that look different to Imperial ones. They'd bring in Orks and Nids and Eldar and Necron and Tau and whatever else to be visually interesting.
When Adeptus Titanicus re-launched I could get 2 Kill Team start boxes for about the same cost, really made me not even consider it. I think that was the real killer of the Adeptus Titanicus re-launch. The first Kill Team start box has insane value.
Am I the only one who bought the set for the exclusive down scaled Titan bits just for kit bashing? It's cool and everything about time GW made this, but all those bits... going for 160$ on eBay... wait a few months and be probably be half that on aliexpress.
My favorite part of the newer starter box... is the two reavers. One of my favorite memories is Games Day US in Baltimore 2004/5. Big table game with an actual Reaver Titan and it’s always stuck in my head since then. Something about the design that isn’t replicated or touched on in the same way for the other titans. It’s almost HR Giger meets Gundam, but not quite.
Definitely grabbing this box.
And definitely take the time to magnetiz the weapons so you can change out weapons for each game.
I've been getting AT since its relaunch and love it but one thing that irritated me was that when you got a model you didn't get the weapon cards or control terminal card you would need. They would be 2 additional purchases so a Warlord would be £60 for the model £15 for the terminal pack and £7.50 for the weapon card pack.
Thankfully with the new Warbringer Nemesis they are including them in with the model! Took them long enough.
That killed my interest as well. At the prices they're charging, there's no excuse whatsoever for forcing us to buy mandatory gameplay tools separate from the models for these. This isn't AoS or 40K where you can easily print out stat cards for playing the game, there's too much data tracking to be done in AT for that.
Definitely, each model kit should come with everything you need, that includes the cards and a command terminal.
They should have gone all-in and made this a full 5th ed Epic :)
I'm disappointed how little this games seems to have caught on around here. Too bad this wasn't the original box set, as I imagine it'd have caught on much better. Maybe this new box will cause it to pickup.
I personaly think it is because of the shift in scale. - had it remained 6mm, more players would have tried it out.
@@steenjacobsen1474 it is still 6mm. They just stopped making the Titans in 3mm for no good reason. You might have heard that a Space Marine would be 8mm tall in AT? That doesn’t actually mean the scale changed, just that they’re finally being accurate with it.
@@randombloke82 No it just bloody means that alle our titans of old are useless.....
It is a moneygrab. - but then its GW so we are kind of used to that.
@@steenjacobsen1474 such a GW thing to do and it drives me nuts. I understand they are a business out to make money but the way the snub their most loyal fans with shit like this is just awful.
I really want to like Adeptus Titanicus, I do. I built my imperial knight army because I love big robots. Titanicus is one of my favorite black library books, and I have every titan or Imperial knight book.
But they price everything at full 40k pricing for a niche side game almost no-one plays, with an entirely different rule set you have to teach people. The one decent starter set with each type of titan is no longer available.
It also fails at being a box game because there are so many mandatory supplement books that are, again, full 40k premium price. To even get one of each titan for collecting purposes costs over $300. This is like them pricing the pitifully small Blackstone Fortress expansions at full boardgame prices.
Dammit GW, I'm tying to reduce the number games I am trying to play, not increase it! But this box is so good!!!
The next thing they will do is release an updated battlefleet gothic....I DARE YOU GW!..... no really... do it!
Heaven forbid if they re-released Epic Armageddon 40k starter box set (6mm glory).
INSOMNIA REWARDED! Thanks, Ash! ♥ This made my night.
The value of this set is phenomenal, and that's before you go to third party retailers who will knock off 20-25% of the cost here in the UK. I've seen copies going for £67.50 ($87) which means you are getting the rule book, the warhounds and the knight for free.
Finally! Now I definitely know what I'm going to wish for my birthday!
The front of the tracking tokens lays flat - the skull doesn’t poke beyond, so you can just use them face down on the card terminals.
Re-watching this after 3 years whilst I magnetise my markers for the command terminals
This.This I don't need but..... This, this I may buy (actually probably will - it looks rather goooood).
Awesome value this starter set. even in Aus $. I'll be looking forward to see more AT battle reports.
180 in Canada - not bad!
Looks like all the heavy card command terminals for titans are already removed from the GW site now too.....
I wonder if we will ever see epic 40k again
Would love to be able to get into this one day and play with you guys in St. Catherine's.
Are knights still insanely broken? Is the Warlord still useless? Have they fixed either?
I,d like to see some AT batreps
I was so trying to avoid this. But I can't. Big Robots... just have to...sigh.
I have been thinking about jumping into AT. Since both box sets are available which would you recommend to buy? Grandmaster or this new starter set?
This one for sure
Big fan of your content Ash.
As an original version fan of that era, I chose to give the grand master box a miss as it was far too expensive and seemed a world away from the original boxed game. This does seem more like it (also comes with my two favourite titan types).
Which do you prefer to play Ash, this latest boxed version or the original epic one from years ago?
If Adeptus Mechanicus is AdMech what is Adeptus Titanicus?
Clearly it's AdTits
Cripes, they repeated that idiocy with the maniples in the rulebook requiring extra models to legally build? It's better than last time in that there's one you can do, but the other two require 1-2 extra warlords to play. It's too much to ask new players to go spend money on another book or worse, a Warlord to try pother maniples. You're absolutely correct, the "no Warlord" maniples from Doom should have been in the book as well, or in place of the ones they chose to use. This is not how to help the game gain traction, GW. Good box for existing players, but as a new-player-friendly box, could have been smarter about it.
When/where can you buy this? Don't see it for preorder on the GW site?
Won't be up until at least 11am in your timezone. They unlock various webstores at different times.
Guerrilla Miniature Games ah, that’s right - thanks!
A good starter box really helps the game. Glad if if this is a set me and someone can buy two off and use all the models (not a lot off unique/prebuilt limited stuff).
The scale is great but the packaging awful where I have, had?, to buy a box, a pack of cards, find dice somewhere...
Thanks ash , sure even without holepunching can just lightly file backends , love titanicus for same reason you do , just love doing my own legio though , slaanesh based :)
The fact that I ordered some MESBG releases for my b-day last week, and the price point for this box is $150, makes me sad... I could have had rockem sockem robots on my b-day.
Good overview. Shame they went paperback on the rulebook, as I rather like the slim hardcovers. The new control panels explains why the Reaver pack has been on Last Chance to Order for a few months.
Magnetize the data cards. I was thinking of doing this anyhow. :)
If one were to get started into this, presumably you'd start with this box, but what else would you recommend?
A warlord. You could run the vast majority of Maniples with that.
Warlord for sure but id go for double plasma/fist laser blaster variant as opposed to the volcano/havoc missiles as a start
Where on earth can I find this for $150?!
For me the death knell was setting it during the Heresy. I understand from the PoV of the game being a risk and spending on new moulds for loads of different titans would be too much but...I don't care about Imperial Titans. I play Epic. I have Imperial Titans. I have plenty of them and I won't buy your new generic boring looking kits for them.
If they'd set it in the 41st millenium they'd have Chaos Titans that look different to Imperial ones. They'd bring in Orks and Nids and Eldar and Necron and Tau and whatever else to be visually interesting.
Oh... did they send you Shadow and Iron as well!?
Check your feed. :) I'm literally holding it at the end of this video. lol
When Adeptus Titanicus re-launched I could get 2 Kill Team start boxes for about the same cost, really made me not even consider it. I think that was the real killer of the Adeptus Titanicus re-launch. The first Kill Team start box has insane value.
"150 Dollars [for a box]" is not a steal....
Am I the only one who bought the set for the exclusive down scaled Titan bits just for kit bashing? It's cool and everything about time GW made this, but all those bits... going for 160$ on eBay... wait a few months and be probably be half that on aliexpress.
They really need to sell the dice on their own.
This box set is the only way to get them. Get used to sharing dice.