Mixing classical music live - with Carsten Kümmel # Video 2: Mixing Symphonic Orchestras

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  • @michaelharrison8019
    @michaelharrison8019 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Absolutely fantastic. This man is a genius. I have learned so much invaluable information from these lectures. I hope there will be more. Thank you

  • @eierschaedl
    @eierschaedl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Maybe the best video about mixing a classical orchestre out there

  • @istrunfa
    @istrunfa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Incredible information! One of the greatest audio information I ever came across in TH-cam. Thank you

  • @michaelmikejameswillliams8373
    @michaelmikejameswillliams8373 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thankyou for sharing. I borrowed some of your ideas for a recent Orchestra Gig I did. Worked well. Got good reviews. Thankyou again.

  • @michaelmikejameswillliams8373
    @michaelmikejameswillliams8373 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Learnt so much. Thank you.

    • @mothergrid-magazine
      @mothergrid-magazine  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@michaelmikejameswillliams8373 You‘re welcome!

  • @jean-philippeedel3861
    @jean-philippeedel3861 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a lesson ! Thank You so much for your work that help a lot !

  • @christianschneidawind5620
    @christianschneidawind5620 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hallo Carsten, großartiges Video! Eine Stelle hat mich jedoch getriggert, bei 36:37 hast du gesagt, dass der Panorama Mix mit Shelf und Delay Mono kompatibel ist, was es aber ja durch das Delay nicht ist im Bereich von 1-3kHz. Habe ich das richtig interpretiert, dass es dort mit dem Delay Auslöschungen gibt oder warum sollte es nicht so sein?

    • @mothergrid-magazine
      @mothergrid-magazine  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@christianschneidawind5620 Wir haben‘s mal weitergeleitet!

    • @carstenkummel8038
      @carstenkummel8038 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lieber Christian, vielen Dank. Es ist Dir sehr gut aufgefallen. Bei der ersten Stufe des Panoramas haben wir ja ein Delay von 0,25ms. D.h. eine erste Auslöschung bei 2kHz. 2kHz ist aber schon durch den Shelving Filter abgesenkt. Damit ist der Kammfilter nicht mehr stark. Ja, es gibt eine Subtraktion, aber eben keine Vollständige. In der Theorie nicht perfekt, in der Praxis kaum nennenswert. Ich hoffe, dies beantwortet Deine Frage

  • @littlestudio1287
    @littlestudio1287 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello Carsten, great video! I wonder what would you do if an instrument should be in the center? Sending to L and R and one or two of the delayed channels? Best, Igor

  • @mashzmash
    @mashzmash ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you are feeding reverberation in to monitors on stage, how do you know when you have sent enough or too much to feel natural? Do you ask musicians for feedback during the sound check?

    • @carstenkummel8038
      @carstenkummel8038 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, I usually don't. I just walk on stage and have a listen if I would feel embedded

  • @oskarwroniewicz
    @oskarwroniewicz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    55:51 - quick recap

  • @simeonogden387
    @simeonogden387 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great series thank you, It'd be really useful if you could explain (or show) a little more about the relationships of your close, medium and distant reverbs. Your explanations are very good about how each in theory should be programmed but it would be nice to see the relationships / ratios between each unit.

    • @carstenkummel8038
      @carstenkummel8038 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This I let my ears decide. But i. g. The return of the Fx raises appr. about 2dB from front to rear. Decay Time: typical values are: 2,4s - 2,7s - 3s; PreDelay: 70ms - 40ms - 10ms (I know, that is more than in the real world:-)); ER to Decay Decay -6dB - -3dB - 0dB; High Cut; 8kHz - 5kHz - 3kHz

    • @olajideparis
      @olajideparis ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve used those monitors in a studio in Berlin once. What are they?

    • @bertrandolf9733
      @bertrandolf9733 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@olajideparis ME Geithain

  • @diegoreis6584
    @diegoreis6584 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Carsten,
    Thank you so much for sharing such great info...
    One thing that I didn´t get is what do you send to the 3/3 panning positions since 3/3 equals to 1, which I assume it would correspond to hard left or right?

    • @carstenkummel8038
      @carstenkummel8038 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hi Diego, 1/3, 2/3 and 3/3 are only names for the signal where they should be localized. 3/3 means it should be localized to the fully left or fully right position. For that (for example to the left side) you give the signal to the bus (L) and to the us (3/3L).

    • @diegoreis6584
      @diegoreis6584 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@carstenkummel8038 That makes total sense... Thank you so much!

  • @LanceHamright
    @LanceHamright 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow!!!!

  • @brucepackard5890
    @brucepackard5890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wonderful series - I discovered it last night and have now watched them all - thanks so much. One question (although I would love to ask hundreds) - when mixing a classical symphony orchestra, it seems that you choose NOT to do any adjustments during the performance, but rely entirely upon the players - is that correct, or am I misunderstanding?

    • @carstenkummel8038
      @carstenkummel8038 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Dear Bruce, thank you for your interest. If I have the chance in musical questions it is always better to speak with the conductor and let the orchestra correct the things. But of course that is dreamland in most cases. Directly in live shows of course I have always to readjust. But in my live performances the adjustments are 95% only balances

  • @MrPilarek
    @MrPilarek ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Carsten, do you use the LPF to control high-frequency leakage?

    • @carstenkummel8038
      @carstenkummel8038 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am not to much afraid of leakage. So I don't

  • @kinglam1367
    @kinglam1367 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could anyone tell me what's the monitor? Thanks in advance

  • @morganbelle357
    @morganbelle357 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hey Carsten and everybody,
    great videos, i am really enjoying them.
    But i think there happened an editing mistake in the Panorama Part: i assume the correct delay Values should be 0.3ms,0.6ms and 0.9ms for the 1/3, 2/3 and 3/3 Busses and not 0.3ms, 1.6ms and 0.9ms?
    @Carsten:
    Super Videos! Ich hab mir (allerdings schon vor diesen Videos) Karten für Hans Zimmer in München im April besorgt. Freue mich und bin schon sehr gespannt! :)
    Viele Grüße aus Detmold/Bielefeld,
    Morgan

    • @carstenkummel8038
      @carstenkummel8038 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Hi Morgan, yes you are right. I said it wrong. It is 0.6ms on 2/3

  • @tracyeaves4847
    @tracyeaves4847 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the delaying, time aligning and such apply to recording as well?

  • @isaax961
    @isaax961 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what console is that?

    • @mothergrid-magazine
      @mothergrid-magazine  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      mario navarro It‘s a Stage Tec Aurus - stagetec.com/de/produkte/audio-mischpulte/aurus-platinum/aurus-platinum-konzept.html

  • @payzdez
    @payzdez 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Audio - mono?!

  • @curly_
    @curly_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

  • @mallorga1965
    @mallorga1965 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone know about those monitors?