Mixing classical music live - with Carsten Kümmel # Video 1: Mixing Symphonic Orchestras

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    Carsten Kümmel is a specialist for live sound in classical music with a breathtaking list of references: He's touring with live productions like Disney in concert or The World Of Hans Zimmer and is a neverending well of hints and tricks when it comes to produce the finest possible live sound for a classical orchestra - be it a symphonic orchestra, an opera, film music or crossover.
    Contents of this video:
    1. Orchestra Setup: • Mixing classical music...
    2. Philosophy of sound design: • Mixing classical music...
    3. PA Design: • Mixing classical music...
    4. Microphones: • Mixing classical music...
    5. Microphone setup for violas in an orchestra environment: • Mixing classical music...
    6. More about microphones: • Mixing classical music...
    7. Monitoring: • Mixing classical music...
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    Video 5: Excerpt - Microphones: bit.ly/excerpt...
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  • @FasaFeu
    @FasaFeu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Very informative and helpful.

  • @thegoodgeneral
    @thegoodgeneral 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I realize this isn’t within the scope of your channel, but I would LOVE this kind of in-depth look into recording classical music, specifically orchestral.

  • @guyodcty
    @guyodcty ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just found your videos. you are god sent!!!

    • @carstenkummel8038
      @carstenkummel8038 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thank you, but I just do my work :-)

  • @javierjanaid
    @javierjanaid 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you so much for that

  • @melvinch
    @melvinch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There needs to be more videos like this.

  • @gabrielelissia
    @gabrielelissia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome content, thank you VERY much for this, really appreciated!

  • @TSUDARGON
    @TSUDARGON 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wonderful masterclass

  • @joseluisgilvazquez8297
    @joseluisgilvazquez8297 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excelente exposición del tema. Me gustó mucho.

  • @lucasetten
    @lucasetten 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sometimes you have to choose certain microphone locations depending on how the orchestra is placed on stage. Placing a microphone between to oboes/clarinets/etc. is great for picking up both instruments. But, if you have a trumpet player directly behind them in the window between the two chairs, well your microphone is going to get blasted with trumpet.

  • @ericpersson8753
    @ericpersson8753 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wow. The scope and depth of knowledge delivered is amazing. I especially like the chapter on mic placement - lots of ideas there I had never thought of. Really enjoyed the video!

  • @curseleisure5507
    @curseleisure5507 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you, Carsten, for sharing so much valuable information. I have a question. I have an upcoming sound reinforcement project in a concert hall. The string section is pretty large, with 5 first violins, 4 second violins, and 3 violas on stage right, and 2 cellos and 2 double bass upstage center. However, the woodwind and brass sections over on stage left generonly have just one of each instrument--1 flute, 1 clarinet, 1 bass clarinet, and one oboe, each sitting next to each other from downstage to upstage. Right behind each of these will be sitting various horn players, then behind them are two trombone players. Since there is only one of each instrument and they are sitting quite close together, what would be your approach? One thought I had was to use supercardioid SDCs, one on each instrument, and have the woodwind mics behind the players angled forward (pointing downstage right) towards their instruments from the rear, and the brass mics pointing the opposite direction aimed upstage left pointing towards them from the front. Another thought was to give up on being able to control individual levels of instruments and just have one cardioid for every 4 instruments, and adjust angle and position to balance whatever mix of brass and woodwinds each mic happens to cover. Then I started thinking about figure-8 mics and got overwhelmed. Interested to hear your thoughts on this.

  • @GustavodeFrancisco
    @GustavodeFrancisco 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When you record chamber music, using a stereo pair plus some spot microphones, do you add delay to the spot microphones to match the sound phase of the stereo pair caused by the distance of the microphones? If you do so, how do you calculate the delay in miliseconds?

  • @benjacastro64
    @benjacastro64 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Traducción en Español por favor!!

  • @fuzzylightning
    @fuzzylightning 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Percussion 44:46

  • @Berettadv
    @Berettadv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Beautifully explained! So much valuable information and eloquently worded in such an organized and understandable method. Thank you so much!

  • @bradleygibson1989
    @bradleygibson1989 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very Helpful Information, I have been sinking my teeth into chamber orchestra recordings. I have been a long time user of AKG mics, but in the last 4-5 years my collection now is predominately Rode Mics. They too have the flexibility and natural sound Quality's of a Neuman etc. Have you got videos on the studio mixdown of a orchestral live recording. This would be gold if you do.

  • @General_Ictus
    @General_Ictus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How do you feel about the old adage of using ribbon microphones, and specifically Royers on strings?

  • @richardbailey511
    @richardbailey511 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really glean so much artistic and technical knowledge from your videos. I'm from the United States and recently became acquainted with Dirk Brauner and I'm making quite a connection with the great country of Germany!

  • @emil_tischbein7693
    @emil_tischbein7693 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If you place the cello mic like 20 cm above the music stand, doesn't the sound of turning a page in their sheet music become a problem?

  • @azizberk
    @azizberk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very good video series, thanks a lot (Y)

  • @rdmccracken
    @rdmccracken 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Truly a talented communicator. Very accessible to me. For those new to microphone technology, seeking definitions of the following terms is certain to add to your understanding: "omnidirectional," "cardioid," "super-cardioid," "hyper-cardioid." Other concepts which are mentioned and will add to your understanding include "comb filter," "near field," and the sound descriptors "warm," "bright," and others. I very much enjoyed this content and hope to find a similar series with Mr. Kummel discussing orchestral recording technique.

  • @gesamtkuntswreck
    @gesamtkuntswreck ปีที่แล้ว

    Best price to performance: an USD850 SINGLE microphone

  • @himanshu_dixit
    @himanshu_dixit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've listened to so many orchestral videos but never really knew or tried to understand about the acoustics until now. Thank you for your explaining this!

  • @michaels.9606
    @michaels.9606 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Respekt, Carsten! Von dir lernt man noch dazu!! TOP!!

  • @studentjohn35
    @studentjohn35 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i wonder what this gentleman would make of a Neumann M150

  • @bbjib
    @bbjib 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks a lot!

  • @FREIMUZIC
    @FREIMUZIC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video!! Thank you!!

  • @Volpunko
    @Volpunko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dear mr. Kümmel, is there any production courses for recording classical music? Not only live, but general ideas. I'm recording engineer for 5 years but I'm working with my own equipment and budget is not as wide for many 8040s. Can I have any masterclass from You? Thanks a lot! It's a pleasure to listen to You 🤗

    • @carstenkummel8038
      @carstenkummel8038 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dear Volodymyr, thanks a lot. Sometimes I have master classes, mostly in Russia or Hungary. But right in the moment none is planned. Sorry

    • @thegoodgeneral
      @thegoodgeneral ปีที่แล้ว

      @@carstenkummel8038make a video series, please!

  • @AidaKhorsandi
    @AidaKhorsandi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you!!!

  • @eingang22
    @eingang22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic. Thank you.

  • @marcorossi2182
    @marcorossi2182 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How would you mic the violin soloist? Mono + Stereo? thanks :-)

    • @carstenkummel8038
      @carstenkummel8038 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is a difficult one. Our ear loves time differences. So stereo. But especially a violin starts to jump between left and right. So mono. Hard to decide. I normally go for a stereo with a small distance between the mics

  • @ishagshafeeg
    @ishagshafeeg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you. Brilliant work.

  • @BrandonWalkerMusic
    @BrandonWalkerMusic ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent information and well explained. Diagrams of some of your concepts would have been helpful in the video or as an accompaniment.

  • @LeonErrante
    @LeonErrante 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks a lot!!

  • @freddypfister7419
    @freddypfister7419 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👍🏻 Great

  • @klavierhaltern
    @klavierhaltern 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic!

  • @Inoxia1234
    @Inoxia1234 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the great insights!

  • @GEMINDIGO
    @GEMINDIGO 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting thanks but a bit confusing about left and right sides of the orchestra.He would use his left arm to say something about the right side of the orchestra facing the audience and then say something else about the rights side of the stage with his left arm and I'm lost sorry....or did I misunderstand something?

    • @mothergrid-magazine
      @mothergrid-magazine  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the arm movement is maybe not connected to the speech...

  • @aires0706
    @aires0706 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for your lesson,I’m wondering the system gain is good in all situations if four violin arts just use one microphone and the microphone distance is far from the instrument?

    • @carstenkummel8038
      @carstenkummel8038 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dear Zhang, of course it would not be suitable for situations with loud bands. Concerning gain before feedback there are a few things to be tought of. The longer the PA array and the more far away it is it increases your gain. For regular concerts I hardly have problems with that method, even when it gets a bit louder than normal.

  • @LazoIV
    @LazoIV 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Carsten Kümmel, why did you switch from Lawo mc2 to Stage Tec?

    • @carstenkummel8038
      @carstenkummel8038 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Both are fine. I am not attached to a certain brand :-)

  • @NotaBeneRecords
    @NotaBeneRecords 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very informative, thank you Mr. Kümmel!

  • @solenoid-eu1xg
    @solenoid-eu1xg ปีที่แล้ว

    Those monitors are gorgeous, what are they?

  • @starckwest6358
    @starckwest6358 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    flutes in gold or silver are next to brass

  • @Sound-Definition
    @Sound-Definition 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ... und jetzt nochmal in deutsch.

  • @capomover
    @capomover 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pfffft.