A English doc on ancient archeological plunder.Ironic. Next weeks episode features a different Greek antiquity owned by someone to distract you from Britain's theft of the frieez of the acropolis
Mate, if I was from Turkey, I'd be glad to be rid of the throne of satan. 12 And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write; These things saith he which hath the sharp sword with two edges; 13 I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth. Revelation 2:12-13
German,British and French have stolen so many things in other countries..bastards they are!..give back to every country that what you have stolen if you have honor and dignity!
Are the other two episodes from this series available? I've hunted high and low, but had no success. I'm curious about his episode on the Venus de Milo as there hasn't been any productions about it anywhere that I've heard of. I know, really niche, but still interesting.
In general, the return or not of stolen ancient monuments should not be judged on the basis of whether they were aquired 'legaly' or not, but on a moral standard. However in this case, with the hatred of Turkish people towards Greece, these monuments better stay in Berlin for another 200 years.
Turkish people of modern Turkey are direct descendants of ancient anatolians. Turkish is a nationality not ethnicity however many “Turks” are actually greeks that converted to Islam during ottoman rule. Turkish people don’t hate greeks? I’m Turkish and I’ve never met a person who hates Greeks in Turkey and I’ve always felt the most welcomed whenever I visited Greece. Both of these countries suffer from bad governors but the people themselves get along pretty well.
@@Giorg189 no? If you look up any research about this you can see that turkish people have a very small percentage of central asian dna. They are direct descendants of ancient anatolians, this is a scientific fact.
@@SD-ft5xj Keep perpetuating lies. Why Classical Greek works should be in the hands of barbarians in Turkey who pretend multiple genocides did not occur is for one reason. Tourism. Who else would want to visit that dump apart from the ruins of truly great civilizations like the Greeks and Romans.
The Ottomans have even less "morals" to lecture anyone about plundering -- they were (and still are) the very BEST at that, slavery and many MORE horrors. -- BR
I did my thesis on the Temple of Zeus. I visited the museum in Berlin and the actual site in Pergamon. There is a military base surrounding the site. Even in 1984 they were using the remains of the ruins as target practice. The Muslim religion does not admire graven images. Had not the Germans rescued this amazing temple it would have long been destroyed even further. In fact when the ottoman empire took over Athens they bombed the acropolis. So much for a respect for ancient religions.
Just stop with your blull shit islamophobic statements imbecile. Egypt is Muslim country with great many artifacts, this was stolen when Sultan Hamid was there and he was not told of the theft, STFU to say Muslims dont respect artifacts hell even Greeks destroyed their own buildings during civil war and Europeans destroyed many buidlign during two world wars
Cairo, the City of Light was the first Muslim capital and was the manifestation of teachings of Mohamed…the first place to believe in equality of women and treat respect to all religions. One’s connection to Allah was direct and personal and the Koran was to be discussed amongst equals not by the priest or rabbi class. It was the promise of a great world religion. But then Khomeini class came in and told people how to worship and has ruled ever since.
@@craigster1244 Well… If you had read the Muqqadimah, you would know about how Muhammad's family dumped the Library of Alexandria into the river. They behaved no better than the Mongols, who later sank the House of Wisdom in Baghdad. Muslim thought, tolerance and open-mindedness then dies for two centuries. Women become a fodder cattle again and philosophy, mathematics, astronomy die in universities leaving place only for theology.
These Turks have no claim on this work,when it was created they didn’t even inhabit Anatolia or Lydia it would be at least another thirteen centuries before anything bearing the identity of a Turk (ie Seljuk or ottoman) set foot in that land as invaders from Central Asia.when they destroyed settlements and towns and indigenous populations to make pasturage for their sheep and horses.I reckon the ottomans probably thought it was a good trade getting modern German technology for the lumps of impious stones.(ie instanbul to Baghdad railway,warships et seq).
Some call it plunder, while others opine that it's fortuitous these artworks exist in Europe. Especially considering recent incidents of damage done to artifacts across the Middle East. Most notable is the destruction of the Buddhas of Bamyan; the destruction of the Temple of Baalshamin; while not forgetting the destruction and theft of cultural heritage in various other sites across Iraq, Syria, and to a lesser extent in Libya. So maybe these and similar artifacts survive today, only because they are in European museums.
Pergamon is in Turkey. Ancient troy was destroyed by a German man, the artefacts stolen by the Russians, most cannot be found while everything in Turkey remains protected. The argument that these artefacts are safer in the looters hands is not correct at all. Many ancient sites have been destroyed by European looters.
Sorry Sultan Hamid 2 gave permission to excavate but did not give permission to loot, the crown prince was surprised and disgusted by this theft but did not say anything as he was guest
I'm from Bergama myself I can see the Pergamon from my bedroom window and I feel that they should keep it in Germany but at least acknowledge the fact that it was stolen from us and should at the very best show say where it was from, when it was taken, and who it was taken from. Personally want to go see Zeus's alter to see the full Pergamon in my life.
''stolen from us" how silly can this be, you are simply an invader to these lands do not forget that nobody stole it from you and got nothing to do with your people. We're talking here about different principals a very small seed of the idealistic western sivilaization.
@@samuelterry6354 Are you on something? who was living there???who constructed it??slavs??? majars??afroamerican??mongols??jews???gypsies??Part of Greece back then,open up more books next time don't try to be a smartass it's not flattering
@@george15713 There's stuff built by the Romans all over Europe, the middle east and north Africa. Does that mean it all belongs in Italy? If it was built there it's part of that country's heritage.
@@samuelterry6354if we talk about a monument it belongs to the the civilaization that built it gave life and purpose to it.Land can change hands but the monuments cannot be calculated to the new intruders or inhabitants.Acording to your saying if australians conquer egypt the sphynx and pyramids belong to them.Doesn't make any sense it's a creation of another sivilaization it belongs to their heritage.Now if we talk about bergamos we talk about a Greek city that was colonized at 4th century bc and changed rulers not population till the invasion of the mongols at the 15th century.Greek speaking population were found there till 1922.
They were not Pagan, and they ARE not 'Idols.' Jesus Christ Himself referred to the Primordial Serpent Typhon and termed him 'Satan.' His disciples placed the dwelling of this REAL Being somewhere down a hidden niche in Ephesus. REAL, Being. Thus not an 'idol.' Zeus vanquished Ophioneus to the Underworld in Ephesus. Jesus Himself WAS part Greek-Egyptian through his ancestor Asaneith, the high aristocrat, and wife of Joseph. In the original language texts, Jesus Christ Himself prays to His Father: 'Ho entois OURANEOS.' And in other places He directly says 'for there are many gods, but for you just one Lord.' He affirms that preternatural Beings exist; they are not powerless 'idols.' Satan is a POWERFUL Enemy, not a powerless 'idol.' Anything deceptive is of the Devil and Satan. Islam and Muhammad themselves declare in the Koran that they will one day 'disappear slithering down a hole they came out of...' And that is a fact. If you want the Islamic texts regarding this I'm sure I can find them. These things are spiritual forces with sentience. Even Christian texts affirm they are held in Tartaros, but not completely destroyed altogether.
@@stephenrodenbough2186 The altar depicts the ancient Titan serpent Typhon being stood on and crushed by some Divine agent being (I'm not personally sure who it is; I'll have to go back and look it up and refresh my memory). THIS, however IS the 'ancient serpent' that Jesus is referring to, and also elsewhere other of his disciples speak about. It's all very well for you to say 'Greek idol,' but as you know, Jesus Christ was a descendant of Asaneith, and therefore part Greek Himself, and I would like you to tell us, if you know it, what are the opening lines of the Lord's Prayer IN GREEK...
@@interqward1: This was an altar dedicated to the worship of the fake god, Zeus or Jupiter, that fact alone made it an idol. What the artwork depicts is irrelevant. The Ottomans, being good Muslims, had to get rid of that altar because it was an abomination in the sight of Islam.
@@stephenrodenbough2186 'Islam' - means 'submission' not 'peace;' it is from the root Arabic word 'salim' (submit) not 'salaam' (peace). Islam is the ultimate religion of deception, it is the work of the Devil himself, Satan. It uses and exploits ignorance. What makes 'Zeus' a false God? The word is from the Attic Greek 'Za' (ref Pherecydes) and is the same as the early Hebrew 'Jah' from which is derived 'Jah-Ho-Vah.' Since, like all Muslim apologists, you have avoided answering my first question, I will tell you what the answer is. Jesus Christ said this: "Pater Hemon, Ho Entois Ouraneos." 'Father of mine, who is God in Heaven.' Jesus Christ, Incarnated God, explicitly declares Himself the son of a Father God in Heaven. 'Ouraneos' is the Greek alternative for the 'Heavenly Zeus.' Muhammad, on the other hand, IS an idol, that is - a false god - because being a man, yet the Muhammadans worship him in their 'tashahud,' their addressing of prayers and blessing directly TO him even as he is admitted to be dead. And they categorically deny the death and Resurrection of Jesus Christ the Son of God Almighty.
Hi, im interested in this. So far i see its the germans got the blame. But i heard some people say that ottoman give away/sold it to germans. Where can i find this source? I cant find it so far :(
It's really surreal almost funny hearing a so called Turk (mayor) saying Acropolis, Pergamon, Zeus. Even funnier when he lays claims to a Briton. Both are plunderers.
Have been to Turkey. Their only interest in anything Greek is the financial gain in tourism it would bring. We have seen the danger for classical monuments such as Palmyra. The Germans should be thanked for rescuing and preserving these sculptures.
You take advantage of the war and support those who steal the damn day will come to our ancestors atilla and sultan Süleyman will show the power of the Turks
Murat Kurt I don't care either way...However. It should go back to them if it goes anywhere..But, you talk about war and use atilla as an example..One of the most barbaric..I am sure he never took anything that did not belong to him.(cough)
Ed Wilson I invite every Turk to get this devils throne.... come to my hometown and demonstrate til u get it back... we enough Turks in Berlin to make it possible ;) have fun. I would sign this petition instant as a german voice. Throne of Satan....
Muslim Turks didn't build this. Did you notice how at the beginning the narrator said, 'one of the most famous sites of antiquity'? There are only 2 known direct written references to Pergamon Altar, which is how it escaped notice so long. Interesting history has been so quiet about the grand site
Returning it back to Turkey is not a good idea , it would only by a matter of time before the Turks use it as target practice like they did up to 1984 of other historical buildings and monuments.
Ignores Altar's Biblical connection. Ignores the evil that befalls the Altar's owner (two world-wars, a cold war and thousands of nukes and a destructive presidency and those are only the one's we know of). Read the Bilble's commentary and act accordingly?
Festival or Ritual. ? Just like Switzerland ritual for the underground. ceremony, or ritual. Gog sounds like Germany. Alter of Hilter. They treat him like a gog, a god. History WILL REPEAT ITS SELF!!
I can't believe you didn't know Jesus "hates" Nicolaitans. Jesus who forgave and healed anyone actually said "hate" Obama put that the temple of Zeus of Pergamus to just tell you straight up he worships Satan. their deeds.. 1. bible says "strange flesh" but my pastor who knows more than me told me it means human sacrifice and eating its flesh after offering to their deities (Spirit cooking, satanic child sacrifices and cannibalisms) 2. Sexual Immorality : Obama married a man. He also enjoyed orgies with hotdogs and pasta 3. Satanic Idolatry : it's pretty obvious now they actually believe and practice Satanism/Luciferianism
@@christianedwards3565 So, guessing some nonsense a zealot christian priest came up with as a way to vilify greek/pagan faiths by claiming their alter to zeus was the throne of satan
A Hyena it is the throne of satan idiot even jesus knew where it was fuck your dumb they are pagan gods even the scholars will tell you it’s where Satan’s throne is .
As with the Elgin Marbles, they ain't getting it! Seriously, though, I can see the mayor's point. I do think they owe the city some reparations, maybe in terms of funds for preservation of archaeological sites & projects to boost touurism, building a modern museum, infrastructure, etc.
I would agree with the augment, like the one with the Cairo Museum wanting the return of the bust of King Tuts wife However religion to me is an adult version of Santa Claus and after the blowing up of the 300' Buddha statues in Afghanistan, I'm afraid some crazy religious leader could take over and destroy these works also
Ethnically Turks and Greeks are probably very similar. But it does not make Turks a Greek. Because Greeks were also colonizers in the Anatolia. They came and assimilated the Anatolians. The Turks came later and did the same. It is only that they came later.
If I had some cans of spray paint and I was near that thing I would have spray painted flowers, heart's and bible scriptures all over Satan's thrown now that would piss him off 😂
What a BS video! The Berlin based reconstruction works of the Pergamon altar are an artwork/masterpiece itself. Turks could have never executed similar expertise. And this also true for the very complex reconstruction works of the Ishtar Gate and the City Gate of Milet.
Probably Satan wants it back too! Bringing cursed objects to your home puts a curse on your house and family! Maybe that is why Germany has been accursed and been a curse to others! This is ridiculous kkkkk
could be, because years back I've had a dream, I got shown a map of today's Turkey, and on the western part of Turkey there was a big red dot on the map, and then I heard the voice saying: "Do you see this city? this is the "throne of satan"". And then I've got a vision what it looks like, there were many stones on that location, and the throne was made of stone as well, there was also sacrificial altar. When I woke up I was so amazed, I was wondering why would I dream about stuff like this? So I've rushed out of my bed, went to Google and wrote in Search: "Turkey, throne of satan" and bam, there were thousands of results, the city called Pergamon really exists on that exact location! But the most shocking part was that it was even mentioned in the Bible and back then I haven't even read the Bible. I've read it a year later. So I was wondering a bit, why would I dream about this when it was already mentioned in the Bible many many years ago? I am still searching for the meaning of this dream. My guess is that Pergamon will probably play a big role once again in today's world as some satanic place for devil worship, or something else could be going on there, something bigger
The altar of Zeus, Greece, and than turks en allah. I can't see the link. Its not ottomans but greece. The turks must give back all the religions things they have from christians like the cathedral. Constantinopel remember!
This is where Satan used to reside. Used to when he and his angels ruled the earth together. Satan is still on Earth but not residing here but in a manchin on the earth.
What I'm about to write is in my opinion an accurate explanation of a Biblical account Jesus talked about,, and also mentioned in Revelation of the seven churches,, which I have never heard in 45 years of searching tens of thousands of sermons,, commentaries and documents. The altar of Zeus that was in Pergama, was on a high mountain, that is the mountain that Satan took Jesus to, and showed Him all the kingdoms belonging to Satan. Satan felt at home there as stated in Revelation 2:12 "and to the Angel of the church of Pergamos write; these things saith He which hath the sharp sword with two edges; 13 I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is; and thou hold fast my Name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth" and in Matthew 4:8 "again, the Devil taketh Jesus up into a high mountain and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them" Satan felt at home there labeled under Zeus Baal etc, so stands to reason that he would take Jesus to Pergama(Pergamum). Why did nazi Germany exterminated God's people? Satan's buddy, Hitler, heard the evil one, no wonder Germany wants to keep the actual Temple, where Satan dwelled.
According to Pastor Richard Wurmbrand in one of his books addressing the links between Satanism and Communism, the original Pergamum altar which was transported to Germany from Turkey, fell into the hands of the Russian communists under Stalin at the end of WWII. This altar was described in the letter to the church at Pergamum by the Lord Jesus Christ in the book of Revelation, as transcribed to the apostle John on the isle of Patmos in 97 AD, as being 'where Satan has his throne' (Revelation 2:13). In other words, if one were to inquire as to where the 'god of this world' (as Satan is described in chapter 4 verse 4 of the apostle Paul's second letter to the Corinthians), has his actual, physical throne, then it is within that altar formerly situated at Pergamum and reputed to have been moved from Germany to Moscow, most likely since secreted within the Kremlin itself and for what purposes, both past and present leaders of Russia might require regular audiences before the throne of the actual Devil himself, we can only dare to imagine. That is, if rendered somehow incapable of seeing quite clearly from both the past and recent misdeeds of those former and current rulers of that nation!
Germany should give back the Pergamon Altar, it is ridiculous to say that the agreements are legal, it is ridiculous to characterize the agreement with a tyrant as legal. This is the legacy of a different world that Germany should not take, the German authorities should stop insisting. Believe me, the return of the Pergamon Altar will glorify Germany and therefore the German people. Pergamon Altar creates wounds in Germany every day it is not returned and it bleeds Germany from the wounds that have already been opened. The German authorities must now hear the horrible voice in the Berlin Museum, and put an end to this scream.
A English doc on ancient archeological plunder.Ironic.
Next weeks episode features a different Greek antiquity owned by someone to distract you from Britain's theft of the frieez of the acropolis
They did not plunder it. The Britts asked permission. The freeze was being used by locals to make quick lime. They rescued it.
Buhu, those bad Germans. Take a look into the British Museum, mate! Damn hypocrit!
Mate, if I was from Turkey, I'd be glad to be rid of the throne of satan. 12 And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write; These things saith he which hath the sharp sword with two edges;
13 I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth. Revelation 2:12-13
German,British and French have stolen so many things in other countries..bastards they are!..give back to every country that what you have stolen if you have honor and dignity!
I’d rather write, fund and direct a sequel to the Omen than ever have that thing near me
Venetians were blind to Parthenon's cultural heritage: a classic case of Venetian Blinds!
Came here for Pergamum, stayed for Wagner
Götterdämmerung the best! WAGNER!
This guys vocabulary is something else
Does anyone know where I can find the remaining episodes? They mention Venus di Milo at the end.
Are the other two episodes from this series available? I've hunted high and low, but had no success. I'm curious about his episode on the Venus de Milo as there hasn't been any productions about it anywhere that I've heard of. I know, really niche, but still interesting.
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In general, the return or not of stolen ancient monuments should not be judged on the basis of whether they were aquired 'legaly' or not, but on a moral standard. However in this case, with the hatred of Turkish people towards Greece, these monuments better stay in Berlin for another 200 years.
Turkish people of modern Turkey are direct descendants of ancient anatolians. Turkish is a nationality not ethnicity however many “Turks” are actually greeks that converted to Islam during ottoman rule. Turkish people don’t hate greeks? I’m Turkish and I’ve never met a person who hates Greeks in Turkey and I’ve always felt the most welcomed whenever I visited Greece. Both of these countries suffer from bad governors but the people themselves get along pretty well.
@@SD-ft5xj Turkish people are originating from modern day Kazakhstan & Uzbekistan.
@@Giorg189 no? If you look up any research about this you can see that turkish people have a very small percentage of central asian dna. They are direct descendants of ancient anatolians, this is a scientific fact.
@@SD-ft5xj Keep perpetuating lies. Why Classical Greek works should be in the hands of barbarians in Turkey who pretend multiple genocides did not occur is for one reason. Tourism. Who else would want to visit that dump apart from the ruins of truly great civilizations like the Greeks and Romans.
The British simply do not have the moral to treat anyone as a plunderer.
The Ottomans have even less "morals" to lecture anyone about plundering -- they were (and still are) the very BEST at that, slavery and many MORE horrors.
-- BR
It is not Turkish altar but Greek!
Tevye of Anatolia would spit on the altar, "TRADITION." Humble man of GOD.
I did my thesis on the Temple of Zeus. I visited the museum in Berlin and the actual site in Pergamon. There is a military base surrounding the site. Even in 1984 they were using the remains of the ruins as target practice. The Muslim religion does not admire graven images. Had not the Germans rescued this amazing temple it would have long been destroyed even further. In fact when the ottoman empire took over Athens they bombed the acropolis. So much for a respect for ancient religions.
Just stop with your blull shit islamophobic statements imbecile. Egypt is Muslim country with great many artifacts, this was stolen when Sultan Hamid was there and he was not told of the theft, STFU to say Muslims dont respect artifacts hell even Greeks destroyed their own buildings during civil war and Europeans destroyed many buidlign during two world wars
Thank you, Islam has a long history of destroying history.
Cairo, the City of Light was the first Muslim capital and was the manifestation of teachings of Mohamed…the first place to believe in equality of women and treat respect to all religions. One’s connection to Allah was direct and personal and the Koran was to be discussed amongst equals not by the priest or rabbi class. It was the promise of a great world religion. But then Khomeini class came in and told people how to worship and has ruled ever since.
@@craigster1244 Well… If you had read the Muqqadimah, you would know about how Muhammad's family dumped the Library of Alexandria into the river. They behaved no better than the Mongols, who later sank the House of Wisdom in Baghdad. Muslim thought, tolerance and open-mindedness then dies for two centuries. Women become a fodder cattle again and philosophy, mathematics, astronomy die in universities leaving place only for theology.
I agree
These Turks have no claim on this work,when it was created they didn’t even inhabit Anatolia or Lydia it would be at least another thirteen centuries before anything bearing the identity of a Turk (ie Seljuk or ottoman) set foot in that land as invaders from Central Asia.when they destroyed settlements and towns and indigenous populations to make pasturage for their sheep and horses.I reckon the ottomans probably thought it was a good trade getting modern German technology for the lumps of impious stones.(ie instanbul to Baghdad railway,warships et seq).
Some call it plunder, while others opine that it's fortuitous these artworks exist in Europe. Especially considering recent incidents of damage done to artifacts across the Middle East. Most notable is the destruction of the Buddhas of Bamyan; the destruction of the Temple of Baalshamin; while not forgetting the destruction and theft of cultural heritage in various other sites across Iraq, Syria, and to a lesser extent in Libya. So maybe these and similar artifacts survive today, only because they are in European museums.
There you go another person who has no knowledge of geogrpahy so sad ppl have been brainwashed to be rascist
Pergamon is in Turkey. Ancient troy was destroyed by a German man, the artefacts stolen by the Russians, most cannot be found while everything in Turkey remains protected. The argument that these artefacts are safer in the looters hands is not correct at all. Many ancient sites have been destroyed by European looters.
@SD you mean Islamic caliphates that destroyed almost all Christian buildings in the middle east, north Africa, Balkans ??
You are a brave person ...!😊
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This was not "plundered", it was negotiated for possession legally through the Ottoman Empire.
The Brits are just salty that they couldn't lay their hands on it. In terms of plundering antique artifacts they should better keep their mouth shut.
Sorry Sultan Hamid 2 gave permission to excavate but did not give permission to loot, the crown prince was surprised and disgusted by this theft but did not say anything as he was guest
Using Wagner throughout and not mentioning it is shameful!
starting a dispute about something that happened 100y ago...
That’s me dad
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I'm from Bergama myself I can see the Pergamon from my bedroom window and I feel that they should keep it in Germany but at least acknowledge the fact that it was stolen from us and should at the very best show say where it was from, when it was taken, and who it was taken from. Personally want to go see Zeus's alter to see the full Pergamon in my life.
''stolen from us" how silly can this be, you are simply an invader to these lands do not forget that nobody stole it from you and got nothing to do with your people. We're talking here about different principals a very small seed of the idealistic western sivilaization.
Stolen from you? It was Greek. The Germans are doing you a favour as it is linked with the occult.
@@billba the Greek empire didn’t exist when the Germans took it 👍 so it was taken from turkey.
@@Loftyhomegaming it was never yours just like Ayia Sofia.
your a funny guy you know that
Then 🏛 GREECE should also demand it back from the TURKS
It never was in Greece.
@@samuelterry6354 Are you on something? who was living there???who constructed it??slavs??? majars??afroamerican??mongols??jews???gypsies??Part of Greece back then,open up more books next time don't try to be a smartass it's not flattering
@@george15713 There's stuff built by the Romans all over Europe, the middle east and north Africa. Does that mean it all belongs in Italy? If it was built there it's part of that country's heritage.
@@samuelterry6354if we talk about a monument it belongs to the the civilaization that built it gave life and purpose to it.Land can change hands but the monuments cannot be calculated to the new intruders or inhabitants.Acording to your saying if australians conquer egypt the sphynx and pyramids belong to them.Doesn't make any sense it's a creation of another sivilaization it belongs to their heritage.Now if we talk about bergamos we talk about a Greek city that was colonized at 4th century bc and changed rulers not population till the invasion of the mongols at the 15th century.Greek speaking population were found there till 1922.
Well this Archecture looks more Greeks than Turks!
The Ottomans wanted to be rid of Pagan Greek Idols.
They were not Pagan, and they ARE not 'Idols.' Jesus Christ Himself referred to the Primordial Serpent Typhon and termed him 'Satan.' His disciples placed the dwelling of this REAL Being somewhere down a hidden niche in Ephesus. REAL, Being. Thus not an 'idol.' Zeus vanquished Ophioneus to the Underworld in Ephesus. Jesus Himself WAS part Greek-Egyptian through his ancestor Asaneith, the high aristocrat, and wife of Joseph. In the original language texts, Jesus Christ Himself prays to His Father: 'Ho entois OURANEOS.' And in other places He directly says 'for there are many gods, but for you just one Lord.' He affirms that preternatural Beings exist; they are not powerless 'idols.' Satan is a POWERFUL Enemy, not a powerless 'idol.' Anything deceptive is of the Devil and Satan. Islam and Muhammad themselves declare in the Koran that they will one day 'disappear slithering down a hole they came out of...' And that is a fact. If you want the Islamic texts regarding this I'm sure I can find them. These things are spiritual forces with sentience. Even Christian texts affirm they are held in Tartaros, but not completely destroyed altogether.
@@interqward1:
This was an Altar to Zeus, the king of Greek gods. How is this not a Greek idol?
@@stephenrodenbough2186 The altar depicts the ancient Titan serpent Typhon being stood on and crushed by some Divine agent being (I'm not personally sure who it is; I'll have to go back and look it up and refresh my memory). THIS, however IS the 'ancient serpent' that Jesus is referring to, and also elsewhere other of his disciples speak about. It's all very well for you to say 'Greek idol,' but as you know, Jesus Christ was a descendant of Asaneith, and therefore part Greek Himself, and I would like you to tell us, if you know it, what are the opening lines of the Lord's Prayer IN GREEK...
@@interqward1:
This was an altar dedicated to the worship of the fake god, Zeus or Jupiter, that fact alone made it an idol.
What the artwork depicts is irrelevant.
The Ottomans, being good Muslims, had to get rid of that altar because it was an abomination in the sight of Islam.
@@stephenrodenbough2186 'Islam' - means 'submission' not 'peace;' it is from the root Arabic word 'salim' (submit) not 'salaam' (peace). Islam is the ultimate religion of deception, it is the work of the Devil himself, Satan. It uses and exploits ignorance.
What makes 'Zeus' a false God? The word is from the Attic Greek 'Za' (ref Pherecydes) and is the same as the early Hebrew 'Jah' from which is derived 'Jah-Ho-Vah.'
Since, like all Muslim apologists, you have avoided answering my first question, I will tell you what the answer is. Jesus Christ said this: "Pater Hemon, Ho Entois Ouraneos." 'Father of mine, who is God in Heaven.' Jesus Christ, Incarnated God, explicitly declares Himself the son of a Father God in Heaven. 'Ouraneos' is the Greek alternative for the 'Heavenly Zeus.'
Muhammad, on the other hand, IS an idol, that is - a false god - because being a man, yet the Muhammadans worship him in their 'tashahud,' their addressing of prayers and blessing directly TO him even as he is admitted to be dead. And they categorically deny the death and Resurrection of Jesus Christ the Son of God Almighty.
The artefacts belongs to Greek , maximum; NOT Turkey . They are Turks not Hellenes! The artefacts were created by Hellenes 😊
Eu imaginava a estátua de Zeus era fabricação da a Grécia, e não da Turquia.
Turkey is Greece more time than it has been Turkish
it wasn't a plunder the statues were used to make lime.
0:21 “transported”
Easzypeazy: you make Hagia Sophia a christian church again and we give you the Pergamom Altar. Deal?
Nothing was plundered. Satan knew just what he was doing when his alter went to Germany.
GABRIELA follow the advice of Jack W A and you will be safe.
Envious Brits are the biggest Plunderer either!!!
Besides Ottoman sold it to the Germans!
Hi, im interested in this. So far i see its the germans got the blame. But i heard some people say that ottoman give away/sold it to germans. Where can i find this source? I cant find it so far :(
....Like the Ottomans allowed Elgin to take the Parthenon marbles.
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HISTORY REPEATS TO THOSE WHO WILL NOT REPENT!!!
Yes....but i believe Zeus was a Nephalim worshipped as a God.....
It's really surreal almost funny hearing a so called Turk (mayor) saying Acropolis, Pergamon, Zeus.
Even funnier when he lays claims to a Briton. Both are plunderers.
Have been to Turkey. Their only interest in anything Greek is the financial gain in tourism it would bring. We have seen the danger for classical monuments such as Palmyra. The Germans should be thanked for rescuing and preserving these sculptures.
You take advantage of the war and support those who steal the damn day will come to our ancestors atilla and sultan Süleyman will show the power of the Turks
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I don't care either way...However. It should go back to them if it goes anywhere..But, you talk about war and use atilla as an example..One of the most barbaric..I am sure he never took anything that did not belong to him.(cough)
Ed Wilson I invite every Turk to get this devils throne.... come to my hometown and demonstrate til u get it back... we enough Turks in Berlin to make it possible ;) have fun. I would sign this petition instant as a german voice. Throne of Satan....
Muslim Turks didn't build this.
Did you notice how at the beginning the narrator said, 'one of the most famous sites of antiquity'? There are only 2 known direct written references to Pergamon Altar, which is how it escaped notice so long.
Interesting history has been so quiet about the grand site
Returning it back to Turkey is not a good idea , it would only by a matter of time before the Turks use it as target practice like they did up to 1984 of other historical buildings and monuments.
Sounds like the narrator might be a little anti-German.
Giants = Offspring of the Fallen Angels... Nephilim . EARTH is not a spinning ball in a vacuum.
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Nephilim are not the fallen angels.
he said offspring ..
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Ignores Altar's Biblical connection. Ignores the evil that befalls the Altar's owner (two world-wars, a cold war and thousands of nukes and a destructive presidency and those are only the one's we know of). Read the Bilble's commentary and act accordingly?
You‘re ridicolous! Grow up, man!
Festival or Ritual. ? Just like Switzerland ritual for the underground. ceremony, or ritual. Gog sounds like Germany. Alter of Hilter. They treat him like a gog, a god. History WILL REPEAT ITS SELF!!
As a german I find the slightly anti german tone mixed with respect for the cunning by a british quite amusing ;)
I can't believe you didn't know
Jesus "hates" Nicolaitans. Jesus who forgave and healed anyone actually said "hate"
Obama put that the temple of Zeus of Pergamus to just tell you straight up he worships Satan.
their deeds..
1. bible says "strange flesh" but my pastor who knows more than me told me
it means human sacrifice and eating its flesh after offering to their deities
(Spirit cooking, satanic child sacrifices and cannibalisms)
2. Sexual Immorality : Obama married a man. He also enjoyed orgies with hotdogs and pasta
3. Satanic Idolatry : it's pretty obvious now they actually believe and practice Satanism/Luciferianism
You forgot to mention obama had a replica built in DC. To honor himself!
Bigoted Christians?
Get Out Of Here
I suppose everyone else taking the stones were as pure as the driven snow
All this for Satan's throne.
It should be destroyed
what?
@@Tom-rz9th In the bible Satan's seat is in Pergamos. It was the alter of Zues.
I agree destroy it !
@@christianedwards3565 So, guessing some nonsense a zealot christian priest came up with as a way to vilify greek/pagan faiths by claiming their alter to zeus was the throne of satan
A Hyena it is the throne of satan idiot even jesus knew where it was fuck your dumb they are pagan gods even the scholars will tell you it’s where Satan’s throne is .
Someone has lost their marbles.
Germans have industrial size 6 axis 3d printer they could sell them.
As with the Elgin Marbles, they ain't getting it!
Seriously, though, I can see the mayor's point. I do think they owe the city some reparations, maybe in terms of funds for preservation of archaeological sites & projects to boost touurism, building a modern museum, infrastructure, etc.
Reparations for what exactly ? They amazingly have a Ministry of Culture. Perhaps they can pay for it.
I would agree with the augment, like the one with the Cairo Museum wanting the return of the bust of King Tuts wife
However religion to me is an adult version of Santa Claus and after the blowing up of the 300' Buddha statues in Afghanistan, I'm afraid some crazy religious leader could take over and destroy these works also
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Eserlerimizin hepsini geri istiyoruz.
They must return home.
Let's teach young Turks they are Greeks in fact.
Ethnically Turks and Greeks are probably very similar. But it does not make Turks a Greek. Because Greeks were also colonizers in the Anatolia. They came and assimilated the Anatolians. The Turks came later and did the same. It is only that they came later.
Puertolex Anatolia is a greek word. Anatolians are Greeks.
Turks OWNED Greeks truth is taught
If I had some cans of spray paint and I was near that thing I would have spray painted flowers, heart's and bible scriptures all over Satan's thrown now that would piss him off 😂
& don't forget the Unicorns !
ohh 😲 that’s so nice
this belongs to the turks about as much as the city of Johannesburg belongs to black africans.
lordweaselfrea, exactly heard the USA are trying to move the pyramids to France. Who cares we're it's made right?
What a BS video!
The Berlin based reconstruction works of the Pergamon altar are an artwork/masterpiece itself. Turks could have never executed similar expertise. And this also true for the very complex reconstruction works of the Ishtar Gate and the City Gate of Milet.
Smh....that is the Devils Throne....Pergumum......Ishtar is a pagan God......Satan......demon......you have no clue of what the world really is about
the mayor is funny, he sounds jewish. haha
Like your dad ?
that is racist bruh
Probably Satan wants it back too!
Bringing cursed objects to your home puts a curse on your house and family! Maybe that is why Germany has been accursed and been a curse to others!
This is ridiculous kkkkk
Yes it's true this is Satan's temple and it needs to be blown up .
@@pleasedontwhipmemaster2353 No thanks ISIL, we've lost enough ancient artifacts and ruins to people with that mentality already.
I wonder if Satan's throne will someday be returned to Turkey.
Jerusalem
neocon Spin I believe you are right
could be, because years back I've had a dream, I got shown a map of today's Turkey, and on the western part of Turkey there was a big red dot on the map, and then I heard the voice saying: "Do you see this city? this is the "throne of satan"". And then I've got a vision what it looks like, there were many stones on that location, and the throne was made of stone as well, there was also sacrificial altar. When I woke up I was so amazed, I was wondering why would I dream about stuff like this? So I've rushed out of my bed, went to Google and wrote in Search: "Turkey, throne of satan" and bam, there were thousands of results, the city called Pergamon really exists on that exact location! But the most shocking part was that it was even mentioned in the Bible and back then I haven't even read the Bible. I've read it a year later. So I was wondering a bit, why would I dream about this when it was already mentioned in the Bible many many years ago? I am still searching for the meaning of this dream. My guess is that Pergamon will probably play a big role once again in today's world as some satanic place for devil worship, or something else could be going on there, something bigger
It needs to be destroyed .
The altar of Zeus, Greece, and than turks en allah. I can't see the link. Its not ottomans but greece. The turks must give back all the religions things they have from christians like the cathedral. Constantinopel remember!
Clever Germans!
This is where Satan used to reside.
Used to when he and his angels ruled the earth together. Satan is still on Earth but not residing here but in a manchin on the earth.
thiefs
Bergamalılar altarlarını geri istiyor!!!!!
this altar is cursed.. returning it to turkey will bring bad luck..it should be destroyed
What I'm about to write is in my opinion an accurate explanation of a Biblical account Jesus talked about,, and also mentioned in Revelation of the seven churches,, which I have never heard in 45 years of searching tens of thousands of sermons,, commentaries and documents.
The altar of Zeus that was in Pergama, was on a high mountain, that is the mountain that Satan took Jesus to, and showed Him all the kingdoms belonging to Satan.
Satan felt at home there as stated in Revelation 2:12 "and to the Angel of the church of Pergamos write; these things saith He which hath the sharp sword with two edges;
13 I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is; and thou hold fast my Name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth"
and in Matthew 4:8 "again, the Devil taketh Jesus up into a high mountain and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them" Satan felt at home there labeled under Zeus Baal etc, so stands to reason that he would take Jesus to Pergama(Pergamum).
Why did nazi Germany exterminated God's people? Satan's buddy, Hitler, heard the evil one, no wonder Germany wants to keep the actual Temple, where Satan dwelled.
I really think the passage says both that Pergamos was Satans throne and where he resides on Earth.
According to Pastor Richard Wurmbrand in one of his books addressing the links between Satanism and Communism, the original Pergamum altar which was transported to Germany from Turkey, fell into the hands of the Russian communists under Stalin at the end of WWII.
This altar was described in the letter to the church at Pergamum by the Lord Jesus Christ in the book of Revelation, as transcribed to the apostle John on the isle of Patmos in 97 AD, as being 'where Satan has his throne' (Revelation 2:13).
In other words, if one were to inquire as to where the 'god of this world' (as Satan is described in chapter 4 verse 4 of the apostle Paul's second letter to the Corinthians), has his actual, physical throne, then it is within that altar formerly situated at Pergamum and reputed to have been moved from Germany to Moscow, most likely since secreted within the Kremlin itself and for what purposes, both past and present leaders of Russia might require regular audiences before the throne of the actual Devil himself, we can only dare to imagine. That is, if rendered somehow incapable of seeing quite clearly from both the past and recent misdeeds of those former and current rulers of that nation!
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Satan's throne.
Germany should give back the Pergamon Altar, it is ridiculous to say that the agreements are legal, it is ridiculous to characterize the agreement with a tyrant as legal. This is the legacy of a different world that Germany should not take, the German authorities should stop insisting.
Believe me, the return of the Pergamon Altar will glorify Germany and therefore the German people. Pergamon Altar creates wounds in Germany every day it is not returned and it bleeds Germany from the wounds that have already been opened.
The German authorities must now hear the horrible voice in the Berlin Museum, and put an end to this scream.
Stolen from my country 😡😡