You mean to imply that I DON'T have to spend $40k minimum on aftermarket stuff for a $100k+ LC79, before I can even consider leaving the city... possibly even my own driveway?! Obviously a faked video!
No matter how much it’s demonstrated, so many people seem to have an aversion to lowering pressures. People seem to think that 20PSI is as low as you go. We went through Ngala rocks the other week and there was a convoy of cars waiting at the other end when I rolled through. Behind me was a bunch of bogged cars… i stopped and told the parked cars to wait and make sure they were down to about 10PSI… I was ignored and they just drove in adding to the mess. Our group didn’t leave for about an hour’s worth of recovery’s… still not one person got a deflator out… meanwhile, I’m just cruising back and fourth without an issue.
Your sensible and calm approach is refreshing and never boring. The desert is even more beautiful when you traverse it slowly. You demonstrate real skill and know-how which we all can benefit from.
Not boring at all, I didn't see a drill anywhere! It goes to show doing it right and just ragging it don't get you the same place. You can make different vehicles look great or really bad by altering one simple thing, so it's great to see a good slow speed steady hill climb done properly. A great video.
Excellent and informative as usual. A refreshing change from guys absolutely flogging off the rev-limiter in their lifted trucks on 35 inch tyres shouting "Yeeehaaaaaaw!" 😉
Thanks Robert great work as usual. I’ve never been game enough to go below 18 psi as I’m worried about bead seal lose. Do you ever find this a problem? I get that you can go a bit easy on the steering but it has always concerned me. Regards.
Depends somewhat on your vehicle, but for the Simpson I run 15. I've never lost a bead. I'd start to be concerned at 10psi. I have lost beads at higher pressures in forests when the tyre is squeezed in rocks etc. The reduction from 18 to 15psi will be a significant improvement in sand driveability.
Taking apl the fun out of watching people get bogged 😂 If everyone who goes offroad watched this there would be noome getting bogged. Great info as always Rob and ever so slighty more boring than usual 🤣😂 love your work mate 👍
I'm a total noob to 4WD and off-roading but love your videos. Just curious about what the average gradient of the hill was. Hard to tell from the video. Also do you have more about crossing the Simpson (other than your "awesome" 1 hour video). Seems like something worth doing one day. Cheers.
Terrible clickbait, the worst ever. I just had to watch the most boring accent ever 🤣. In a Greatwall X240 this advice has always worked great for me in sand. The only time I got stuck in sand was when I was going uphill, it had just rained, and I had to follow deep tire ruts. The wet sand was so sticky, that when I bottomed out, I stuck solid. I couldn't even reverse back down the slope. I had to clear the sand out from underneath the vehicle, and shovel the center ridge into the ruts for several metres to get enough momentum so that I could get back down the track in reverse. Then I waited a few hours for the sand to dry before trying again. Once the sand was dry I had no problems.
Love your vids mate , really helpful tips , especially like this one for the noobs. And to anyone that thinks sand flags aren’t cool, you obviously haven’t done much dune driving. Get one.
To grip in soft sand is to limit displacing the sand as you drive over it. Of course you can drive through sand like a paddle steamer, but the light suv with soft sidewall tyres will likely drive over it with less energy used.
You learn something every day they say. So when you learn something it's not boring, a good video thank you. So you travelled from west to east I presume, is the dune the same angle from both directions? We did big red the 1st time in 1988, tried it in F100 2wd's (1WD really), Troopy 4 litre diesels but only succeeded in a Bronco at a million mph! Crazy fun 🙂🙂
Apparently there are Two Big Red sand dunes. The easy one that people brag about climbing, and the real one. Which one is this video about . A mate climbed the ‘real’ difficult one in a low powered 2.5 ton LandRover on pizza cutter 7.50x16 tyres at a very slow idle in low range 1st gear of his specially modified transmission that had a crawl ratio of 110:1. It would have been the slowest ascent in history.
Although I 100% agree with you about tyre pressures, my LR has 235/55 R19 and I’m not in a position to change that. I have AT tyres (MT not available in my rim spec and I don’t want MT anyway); I don’t think it’s wise to go much below 20psi on this profile/rim as too much chance of rolling the bead off the rim. Pretty sure I could still do the Simpson with ease though. Your thoughts?
I wouldn't go lower than 20psi in your situation to prevent creasing the sidewall and damaging the rim. Rebeading a tire on the track is a real pain. During the winter the Simpson crossing is a relatively gentle trip on the car and you'll have no problem. It's more a logistical trip bringing camping supplies for a few days.
235/55/19 or 255/55/19? Either way, if you have decent tyres I would go to 18 on sand which will be a difference to 20. Sand is fairly flat, unlike rocks, and rim damage is less likely. You will do the Simpson with ease. The ideal for those cars is 245/70/17 if you can take 17" rims available secondhand, or 18s either LR standard or TuffAnt. Rolling a tyre off the bead isn't the risk with low profiles, it's damage to rim or tyre pinch.
@@jerrymyahzcatwe don’t get in the mud ever so often yall don’t eat 😅 Recreational offroading is fun for sure but a lot my stuff is working. I can’t always just “air down” with a 10K trailer full of hay or cattle. 😂 construction guys know they are gonna spin and the depth will stop ya from airing down
@@MikeJones-mz5ig then good luck with it… may you are lucky. I have seen enough copy and rubbish produced in China during my 25 years living and working there And yes we have produced German machines there in Linde forklifts and road construction machines. Guess who did the designs and QS
You mean to imply that I DON'T have to spend $40k minimum on aftermarket stuff for a $100k+ LC79, before I can even consider leaving the city... possibly even my own driveway?! Obviously a faked video!
LOL !!! 😂😂❤
Oi... back to suburban carpark mate 🤣
😂. Oh no! No gimmicks required! What ever will we do! 😂
No matter how much it’s demonstrated, so many people seem to have an aversion to lowering pressures. People seem to think that 20PSI is as low as you go. We went through Ngala rocks the other week and there was a convoy of cars waiting at the other end when I rolled through. Behind me was a bunch of bogged cars… i stopped and told the parked cars to wait and make sure they were down to about 10PSI… I was ignored and they just drove in adding to the mess. Our group didn’t leave for about an hour’s worth of recovery’s… still not one person got a deflator out… meanwhile, I’m just cruising back and fourth without an issue.
Thanks for the video...I would rather be bored than stuck any day 😊
Your sensible and calm approach is refreshing and never boring. The desert is even more beautiful when you traverse it slowly. You demonstrate real skill and know-how which we all can benefit from.
Thanks so much!
How are we supposed to maintain all the wombat holes if people keep doing that Robert????
Not boring at all, I didn't see a drill anywhere!
It goes to show doing it right and just ragging it don't get you the same place. You can make different vehicles look great or really bad by altering one simple thing, so it's great to see a good slow speed steady hill climb done properly. A great video.
Thanks 👍
So you don’t need to push up it flat out, digging divots everywhere and breaking things?
Who’d have thought?
Excellent and informative as usual. A refreshing change from guys absolutely flogging off the rev-limiter in their lifted trucks on 35 inch tyres shouting "Yeeehaaaaaaw!" 😉
Thanks Robert great work as usual. I’ve never been game enough to go below 18 psi as I’m worried about bead seal lose. Do you ever find this a problem? I get that you can go a bit easy on the steering but it has always concerned me. Regards.
Depends somewhat on your vehicle, but for the Simpson I run 15. I've never lost a bead. I'd start to be concerned at 10psi. I have lost beads at higher pressures in forests when the tyre is squeezed in rocks etc. The reduction from 18 to 15psi will be a significant improvement in sand driveability.
But you didn't do it in a 79, Ranger or Hilux. These cars require you are in full send at all times.
Taking apl the fun out of watching people get bogged 😂
If everyone who goes offroad watched this there would be noome getting bogged. Great info as always Rob and ever so slighty more boring than usual 🤣😂 love your work mate 👍
I'm a total noob to 4WD and off-roading but love your videos. Just curious about what the average gradient of the hill was. Hard to tell from the video. Also do you have more about crossing the Simpson (other than your "awesome" 1 hour video). Seems like something worth doing one day. Cheers.
Unsure on the gradient, probably 18 degrees is my guess. No I don't really do travel, check out alloffroad.com.au/ for crossing info.
@@L2SFBC Thanks.
Promising a boring video had me hooked 🙂 Good video - thanks
Thanks Robert, always appreciate it.
Terrible clickbait, the worst ever. I just had to watch the most boring accent ever 🤣. In a Greatwall X240 this advice has always worked great for me in sand. The only time I got stuck in sand was when I was going uphill, it had just rained, and I had to follow deep tire ruts. The wet sand was so sticky, that when I bottomed out, I stuck solid. I couldn't even reverse back down the slope. I had to clear the sand out from underneath the vehicle, and shovel the center ridge into the ruts for several metres to get enough momentum so that I could get back down the track in reverse. Then I waited a few hours for the sand to dry before trying again. Once the sand was dry I had no problems.
Love your vids mate , really helpful tips , especially like this one for the noobs. And to anyone that thinks sand flags aren’t cool, you obviously haven’t done much dune driving. Get one.
Love your content!
To grip in soft sand is to limit displacing the sand as you drive over it. Of course you can drive through sand like a paddle steamer, but the light suv with soft sidewall tyres will likely drive over it with less energy used.
As slow as possible, as boring as necessary.
I usually run 50-60psi on road. I air up to 70 flr the beach.
😀
You learn something every day they say. So when you learn something it's not boring, a good video thank you.
So you travelled from west to east I presume, is the dune the same angle from both directions?
We did big red the 1st time in 1988, tried it in F100 2wd's (1WD really), Troopy 4 litre diesels but only succeeded in a Bronco at a million mph! Crazy fun 🙂🙂
Yes heading east
Apparently there are Two Big Red sand dunes. The easy one that people brag about climbing, and the real one. Which one is this video about . A mate climbed the ‘real’ difficult one in a low powered 2.5 ton LandRover on pizza cutter 7.50x16 tyres at a very slow idle in low range 1st gear of his specially modified transmission that had a crawl ratio of 110:1. It would have been the slowest ascent in history.
Well I have a video proving that narrow tyres are not in fact pizza cutters....
@@L2SFBCthe old Uniroyal steeltrek 7.50x16s under a 2.5 ton vehicle on soft dry sand couldn’t be described as floatation tyres.
Seen someone tow up big red just crawling like this.
And that's exactly how the experts do it - boring, the only way to go!
Good piece, thanks.
Although I 100% agree with you about tyre pressures, my LR has 235/55 R19 and I’m not in a position to change that. I have AT tyres (MT not available in my rim spec and I don’t want MT anyway); I don’t think it’s wise to go much below 20psi on this profile/rim as too much chance of rolling the bead off the rim. Pretty sure I could still do the Simpson with ease though. Your thoughts?
I wouldn't go lower than 20psi in your situation to prevent creasing the sidewall and damaging the rim. Rebeading a tire on the track is a real pain. During the winter the Simpson crossing is a relatively gentle trip on the car and you'll have no problem. It's more a logistical trip bringing camping supplies for a few days.
235/55/19 or 255/55/19? Either way, if you have decent tyres I would go to 18 on sand which will be a difference to 20. Sand is fairly flat, unlike rocks, and rim damage is less likely. You will do the Simpson with ease. The ideal for those cars is 245/70/17 if you can take 17" rims available secondhand, or 18s either LR standard or TuffAnt. Rolling a tyre off the bead isn't the risk with low profiles, it's damage to rim or tyre pinch.
Awesome!! Only for those who know 😊
Awesome video. Thanks Robert
Glad you enjoyed it
For sand this is the way. Other stuff where tire spin is inevitable not so much.
Mud? I avoid mud like the plague.
@@jerrymyahzcatwe don’t get in the mud ever so often yall don’t eat 😅
Recreational offroading is fun for sure but a lot my stuff is working. I can’t always just “air down” with a 10K trailer full of hay or cattle. 😂 construction guys know they are gonna spin and the depth will stop ya from airing down
Modern traction control (not ESC) makes a huge difference. It’s amazing where stock 4WDs can go these days.
It does but not in this case. Pure tyre pressure nothing else.
LR Terrain Response Sand Mode is awesome.
Sorry Robert
Have to turn off this vid.
Can’t stay the CSB’s….. “Chinese Shit Box”
Cheers
Sh!t but still climbed the dune.
40 years ago people use to say Japanese Shit Boxes …….what happened to that attitude ?? Your attitude will end in the same place
Mine is ten years old. Someone forgot to tell it it's a shitbox. More likely a shit assessment.
Yep!
@@MikeJones-mz5ig then good luck with it…
may you are lucky. I have seen enough copy and rubbish produced in China during my 25 years living and working there
And yes we have produced German machines there in Linde forklifts and road construction machines. Guess who did the designs and QS