Thank you so much. Like others have said, it really matters than you actually understand the piano when reviewing one. You truly show your competence and explore what actually matters for making a sampled piano sound good and respond intuitively to the touch. Very nice work, and lovely sounding piano.
I purchased this Vst the other day and I'm really pleased with it, I have most of the piano programs on the market including Keyscape/ravenscroft/noire/pianoteq and many more , this to me is extremely well balanced through out the keyboard with regards to sound and velocity, Its a beautiful piano vst and now I want the Modern u.
Let me ask you for you what it’s the best ( or the bests)..I have also noire,pianoteq,pianoverse, etc,but I’m allways something new and I would like to know what is you’re opinion,by the way I don’t have any VSL that are very ,very good but very expensive…well any way thank for you’re opinion about this ….A
@@pinheiroartur3020 I love this Modern D. I also really love VSL bluthner, I tried VSL 280d but wasn't overly impressed. I've had pianoteq since it originally came out but I don't thinks it's comparable to Modern D. I like keyscape for it's variety but it doesn't have all the pedal facilities or resonance which is a shame. I haven't got pianoverse but I'm considering it but don't like idea of pianos in space or on the beach and it makes me feel it's a gimmick vst but I'm hoping I'm wrong.. Noire is decent but my favourite is Modern D and vsl's offerings
@@craigsimmons-y7k first thank for yore’s kind opinion ,I have also all the pianos of pianoteq sense almost the beginning and they have improved ,and these last one Bosendorfer is really a step they made to do better….and I thing that for the end of this year,or beguine of The next will have more news from them…to share with you some opinions I will tellyou that I have also the CFX,that one of my favorites and from pianoverse I have two of them (concert grand yf3 yamaha ,and Fazioli that is better),the grandeur still very good sounding,and the Chroma it’s interesting (yamaha c3)….my best regard’s from Lisbon Portugal to you ….
I was waiting for a really good go to piano library that could inspire me to get back to learn the piano and I think that this is it!. Ah! and let's not forget that in order to use it you don't have to expend a LOT of money for the sampler...as this uses the free UVI workstation. Special thanks to the presenter, Mr. Charles, as the information that he provided in the video is deep and clear. Brilliant!
This is an absolute game changer! So many diverse pianos possible. You have excelled once again, even more than the Ravenscroft 275 which is (was) my goto :) Be proud of producing something extraordinary.
How was it a change changer? Genuinely asking… 🙏🏽 Ravenscroft275 is my goto as well! What difference do you see in this new library that is better than R275?
@@adrielbote Sure. For me, it's about the level of tonal control to allow me to create a whole bunch of diverse piano sounds. This is many years newer tech than R275 with more parameters and finer detail in everything. Also, they've really gone to so much sampling detail (e.g. separate una corda samples, continuous pedal controls, etc). Having said that, the R275 still holds it's own! I feel the R275 was way ahead of it's time and STILL has a unique unmatched clarity that even this Modern D doesn't quite have. I would still use R275 more for jazz, soul, blues and Modern D would take over for classical, film, and other general work, especially experimental piano sounds. I sure hope VI Labs updates the R275 with some of the Modern D's new parameters.
@@smyrnian_ I see. Thanks for taking the time to explain and give your thoughts here! Very helpful and much appreciated. I might consider buying the Modern D later. All the best to you!
What a great video! I'm buying this immediately, but I wanted to tell you how informative this was. I love the explanation of the Gain Response function. In pop music I've found it hard to fit the piano in the mix without it sounding crushed. This is a great way to avoid that!
Thanks for this review! I have the Ravenscroft 275 and I just added this to the library. I absolutely adore the clarity of the Ravenscroft on my headphones (Beyer dt880), however they lose some of the personalness for me when played through my speakers (Neumann KH80s). This piano doesn't necessarily replace the "personalness" aspect for me, but the warmth and player experience through the speakers is the best from any VST I have tried so far (lots!)
Thanks for the thorough walkthrough! This library sounds very convincing and rich in features/options. Untill now it is probably one of the very few libraries that peak my interest. It is not within my budget now, but I will certainly consider it when it is.
Why is there no trial version? There is definitely a big chance that I would buy, but without trying there is no chance that I would buy, there is a big gap between hearing and experiencing
I purchased Modern D and have a question. I saw that in the speed curve settings there is a setting for Vpc1. I own a Kawai CA 701 and am wondering if this curve setting is a good solution. On Vi forum I was recommended Light Touch 1 setting but looking at both curves - they are completely different. Greetings
Excellent run through of the features. I'm encouraged when you say you're running Modern D on your 10 year old computer. My laptop computer is 7 years' old with Intel i5 1.60GHz(8CPUs) ~1.8GHz, 4GB RAM, so can I assume it will work without buying a new computer right now? I only play classical without the desire of much twinking of the midi and velocity curves.
I love good piano vst Like fs spotlight, sa bbc piano, other sa pianos, pianoteq, noire, heavyocity ones, ez keys 2 newer ones, sonuscore chroma both, the old garritan cfx, fs pianos incl their new fantastic upright.... But this one is great... First piano i almost have to look at my keys to remember ita still a vst Modern D from Vi Labs is easily the best piano vst outthere until now...by FAR...and that says alot Amazing
after connecting a second monitor i saw the full web page.but the installer can not be used. macos refuse because of possible malware. i installed it all manually. the piano is very good and i love it. i only wrote this for information.
@@klauswiechmann3101 Thanks for the report, but the website and app were developed on a macbook pro M1... plus we tested it on M1 mic minis and various hardwares (mac and windows). If this happens again, could you send us your configuration/os version/browser info in a ticket? That could help us try and figure out what the problem is. Thanks!
Question: Are you guys gonna get in trouble with Steinway for including their logo on the piano in the UI? Also can you guys please consider sampling an older Hamburg Steinway D? The older Hamburg D-274s have a unique sound from their NY counterparts.
I am giddy that you guys have released this sampled Steinway. I had been begging Lance several years ago to release an update for the original True Keys pianos (mainly the American Grand) to include a room mic.
Yes, at least to my ears. You can watch me play a Debussy prelude and you'll hear the dynamic range. According to the promotional, some keys even have over 50 DB of dynamic range. th-cam.com/video/QZTgDvFS-uk/w-d-xo.html
Hey there! I’m the guy in the video so I figured I’d chime in with a response since I also own the Ravenscroft … based on sound and my perception, the Modern D has a *massive* dynamic range. Yes it’s larger than the Ravenscroft and truly it sounds/plays/records like a real acoustic 9’ piano.
@@CharlesSzczepanek I also have recorded a few demos, like Charles, and what he says is 100% correct. I'm sure as a classically trained musician, you know how it feels to play an instrument as dynamic as a New York D. And this piano library gives you exactly that, and, as far as I'm concerned, it's now my only piano VST besides the Modern U that's still on my laptop!
@@ludenspal704 yeah, the Ravenscroft still outperforms tons of libraries out there, and it’s astonishing that it does it with only 6GB. To my ears, it’s the change in tonal color that the Modern D has that make it sound so real… and changes like that really require a LOT of velocity layers. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Modern D had twice as many as the Ravenscroft… plus the different sympathetic resonances, better release and staccato samples, and 5 mic choices instead of three… I’m actually surprised the library is ONLY 18GB.
Now I agree your Ravenscroft 275 VST was well made, but your UVI Keys: Italian, American, and German had some glitches, so I constantly cannot use them. I think you need to remake some of those and give to the existing users free of charge. By the way, isn't the Modern D basically UVI American or German? You can guess I am not that happy to pay $349 for those and not able to use them, and now have to pay another $200 for the Modern D
If you have those issues with True Keys (not UVI), please contact our support for assistance. Yes we may do a full update for all True Keys Pianos at some point. And no, the Modern D is entirely new in every way including a different new piano. Also, we are VI Labs, not UVI, although we use the UVI Workstation as our sample engine.
@@jakeperl5857 most of UVI's stock libraries for acoustic instruments seem mediocre but mannn, the libraries that 3rd party developers create on UVI's engine compared to what you typically get from 3rd parties using Kontakt is unmatched 💯
What a difference it makes when an actual pianist does a vst piano walkthrough. Excellent walkthrough!
And it should be done by pianists. :) We need more pros to do this, I agree!!!
Thank you so much. Like others have said, it really matters than you actually understand the piano when reviewing one. You truly show your competence and explore what actually matters for making a sampled piano sound good and respond intuitively to the touch. Very nice work, and lovely sounding piano.
This is the best and most interesting walkthrough of a piano library I’ve watched. I am very excited to play with this library!
So happy to see you guys are back! Your libraries are such a joy to play
I purchased this Vst the other day and I'm really pleased with it, I have most of the piano programs on the market including Keyscape/ravenscroft/noire/pianoteq and many more , this to me is extremely well balanced through out the keyboard with regards to sound and velocity, Its a beautiful piano vst and now I want the Modern u.
Let me ask you for you what it’s the best ( or the bests)..I have also noire,pianoteq,pianoverse, etc,but I’m allways something new and I would like to know what is you’re opinion,by the way I don’t have any VSL that are very ,very good but very expensive…well any way thank for you’re opinion about this ….A
@@pinheiroartur3020 I love this Modern D. I also really love VSL bluthner, I tried VSL 280d but wasn't overly impressed. I've had pianoteq since it originally came out but I don't thinks it's comparable to Modern D. I like keyscape for it's variety but it doesn't have all the pedal facilities or resonance which is a shame. I haven't got pianoverse but I'm considering it but don't like idea of pianos in space or on the beach and it makes me feel it's a gimmick vst but I'm hoping I'm wrong.. Noire is decent but my favourite is Modern D and vsl's offerings
@@craigsimmons-y7k first thank for yore’s kind opinion ,I have also all the pianos of pianoteq sense almost the beginning and they have improved ,and these last one Bosendorfer is really a step they made to do better….and I thing that for the end of this year,or beguine of The next will have more news from them…to share with you some opinions I will tellyou that I have also the CFX,that one of my favorites and from pianoverse I have two of them (concert grand yf3 yamaha ,and Fazioli that is better),the grandeur still very good sounding,and the Chroma it’s interesting (yamaha c3)….my best regard’s from Lisbon Portugal to you ….
@@pinheiroartur3020 all the best. Hope your enjoying your piano playing
I was waiting for a really good go to piano library that could inspire me to get back to learn the piano and I think that this is it!. Ah! and let's not forget that in order to use it you don't have to expend a LOT of money for the sampler...as this uses the free UVI workstation. Special thanks to the presenter, Mr. Charles, as the information that he provided in the video is deep and clear. Brilliant!
just bought it....this video will be of great help...thank you
This sounds amazing!! Can't wait to get a chance to try it!
Bought this last week and think it’s a wonderful authentic and realistic NY Steinway D. Would love a Vi-Labs CFX to compliment this please 🙏🏻
VI LABS MODERN CFX, hell yeah baby❤
This is an absolute game changer! So many diverse pianos possible. You have excelled once again, even more than the Ravenscroft 275 which is (was) my goto :) Be proud of producing something extraordinary.
How was it a change changer? Genuinely asking… 🙏🏽
Ravenscroft275 is my goto as well!
What difference do you see in this new library that is better than R275?
@@adrielbote Sure. For me, it's about the level of tonal control to allow me to create a whole bunch of diverse piano sounds. This is many years newer tech than R275 with more parameters and finer detail in everything. Also, they've really gone to so much sampling detail (e.g. separate una corda samples, continuous pedal controls, etc).
Having said that, the R275 still holds it's own! I feel the R275 was way ahead of it's time and STILL has a unique unmatched clarity that even this Modern D doesn't quite have.
I would still use R275 more for jazz, soul, blues and Modern D would take over for classical, film, and other general work, especially experimental piano sounds.
I sure hope VI Labs updates the R275 with some of the Modern D's new parameters.
@@smyrnian_ I see. Thanks for taking the time to explain and give your thoughts here! Very helpful and much appreciated. I might consider buying the Modern D later. All the best to you!
Bravo, Charles and VI Labs! I still find the midi response part a bit difficult, but the rest was very well explained and demonstrated!
I think it sounds amazing. The range of tonal variance is impressive.
How did VILabs manage to record the symp. resonances separately? I mean, the are created by pressing a key...
I can't say how excited I am to try this! I love VI Labs libraries and use them on major label releases all the time. ❤
I mean this a guy that really plays and knows was he’s talking….congratulations,and thank you…..A
What a great video! I'm buying this immediately, but I wanted to tell you how informative this was. I love the explanation of the Gain Response function. In pop music I've found it hard to fit the piano in the mix without it sounding crushed. This is a great way to avoid that!
Thanks for this review!
I have the Ravenscroft 275 and I just added this to the library. I absolutely adore the clarity of the Ravenscroft on my headphones (Beyer dt880), however they lose some of the personalness for me when played through my speakers (Neumann KH80s). This piano doesn't necessarily replace the "personalness" aspect for me, but the warmth and player experience through the speakers is the best from any VST I have tried so far (lots!)
Thanks for the thorough walkthrough! This library sounds very convincing and rich in features/options. Untill now it is probably one of the very few libraries that peak my interest. It is not within my budget now, but I will certainly consider it when it is.
That's quite an impressive D
love the una corda
Me too! :)
It's so good!
Same here. Any time I work on a real piano, I keep the una corda activated throughout (partly because of my musical style).
I want this so badly❤❤❤
Is the symp. resonance added on top of the pedal resonances (which isn't what would happen in a real piano)?
Hello there! I have purchased this wonderful plugin and i was wondering if there is a way to adjust the attack of the piano. Thanks already!
Why is there no trial version? There is definitely a big chance that I would buy, but without trying there is no chance that I would buy, there is a big gap between hearing and experiencing
it's difficult for these types of libraries to have trial versions
waiting for the black friday or Christmas deals, then will snag it up!
Thanks for sharing friend
I purchased Modern D and have a question. I saw that in the speed curve settings there is a setting for Vpc1. I own a Kawai CA 701 and am wondering if this curve setting is a good solution. On Vi forum I was recommended Light Touch 1 setting but looking at both curves - they are completely different. Greetings
Excellent run through of the features. I'm encouraged when you say you're running Modern D on your 10 year old computer. My laptop computer is 7 years' old with Intel i5 1.60GHz(8CPUs) ~1.8GHz, 4GB RAM, so can I assume it will work without buying a new computer right now? I only play classical without the desire of much twinking of the midi and velocity curves.
I love good piano vst
Like fs spotlight, sa bbc piano, other sa pianos, pianoteq, noire, heavyocity ones, ez keys 2 newer ones, sonuscore chroma both, the old garritan cfx, fs pianos incl their new fantastic upright....
But this one is great...
First piano i almost have to look at my keys to remember ita still a vst
Modern D from Vi Labs is easily the best piano vst outthere until now...by FAR...and that says alot
Amazing
Were all the keys sampled? (VSL only sampled the white keys at Synchron Steinway D!)
Of course!
i want to buy it, but it is not possible , because the shopping page is not complete visible on Macbook pro M1 ☹️
after connecting a second monitor i saw the full web page.but the installer can not be used. macos refuse because of possible malware. i installed it all manually. the piano is very good and i love it. i only wrote this for information.
@@klauswiechmann3101 Thanks for the report, but the website and app were developed on a macbook pro M1... plus we tested it on M1 mic minis and various hardwares (mac and windows). If this happens again, could you send us your configuration/os version/browser info in a ticket? That could help us try and figure out what the problem is. Thanks!
低音のスラムも素晴らしいです、色彩は暗いですが気品があります❤
品位があって陰影のある深い低音 すばらしい
God I love this
Great review and certainly great vst piano.What are the speakers for this review?
the audio is coming directly from the internal audio, there are no speakers being recorded
What monitors do you recomend to use?
Was each note sampled at the same time by all the mics? e.g. Close mic and Room mic simultaneously recorded each played note layer?
Yes all mics were being recorded at once during the sampling session so everything matches up.
Question: Are you guys gonna get in trouble with Steinway for including their logo on the piano in the UI? Also can you guys please consider sampling an older Hamburg Steinway D? The older Hamburg D-274s have a unique sound from their NY counterparts.
I am giddy that you guys have released this sampled Steinway. I had been begging Lance several years ago to release an update for the original True Keys pianos (mainly the American Grand) to include a room mic.
Nope, we have permission so no worries. And thanks for the suggestion, we will consider that.
What midi controller are you using?
does this have a wider dynamic range than the Ravenscroft?
Yes, at least to my ears. You can watch me play a Debussy prelude and you'll hear the dynamic range. According to the promotional, some keys even have over 50 DB of dynamic range. th-cam.com/video/QZTgDvFS-uk/w-d-xo.html
Hey there! I’m the guy in the video so I figured I’d chime in with a response since I also own the Ravenscroft … based on sound and my perception, the Modern D has a *massive* dynamic range. Yes it’s larger than the Ravenscroft and truly it sounds/plays/records like a real acoustic 9’ piano.
@@CharlesSzczepanek I also have recorded a few demos, like Charles, and what he says is 100% correct. I'm sure as a classically trained musician, you know how it feels to play an instrument as dynamic as a New York D. And this piano library gives you exactly that, and, as far as I'm concerned, it's now my only piano VST besides the Modern U that's still on my laptop!
@@CharlesSzczepanek not that the Ravenscroft lacks that much, still, this Modern D weighs around 18GB vs 6GB for the Ravenscroft
@@ludenspal704 yeah, the Ravenscroft still outperforms tons of libraries out there, and it’s astonishing that it does it with only 6GB. To my ears, it’s the change in tonal color that the Modern D has that make it sound so real… and changes like that really require a LOT of velocity layers. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Modern D had twice as many as the Ravenscroft… plus the different sympathetic resonances, better release and staccato samples, and 5 mic choices instead of three… I’m actually surprised the library is ONLY 18GB.
This will become an industry standard piano plugin.
Way to go, Charles. Too bad there's no Linux version.
the fault of UVI
Now I agree your Ravenscroft 275 VST was well made, but your UVI Keys: Italian, American, and German had some glitches, so I constantly cannot use them. I think you need to remake some of those and give to the existing users free of charge. By the way, isn't the Modern D basically UVI American or German? You can guess I am not that happy to pay $349 for those and not able to use them, and now have to pay another $200 for the Modern D
If you have those issues with True Keys (not UVI), please contact our support for assistance. Yes we may do a full update for all True Keys Pianos at some point. And no, the Modern D is entirely new in every way including a different new piano. Also, we are VI Labs, not UVI, although we use the UVI Workstation as our sample engine.
@@vilabsaudio ok, I mean the VI Labs True Keys: Italian, American, German
@@vilabsaudio Yeah, the UVI's pianos are pretty lackluster IMO. Glad to see there's no connection.
@@jakeperl5857 most of UVI's stock libraries for acoustic instruments seem mediocre but mannn, the libraries that 3rd party developers create on UVI's engine compared to what you typically get from 3rd parties using Kontakt is unmatched 💯