I hammered my 21" Sweet Ride(mine showed no signs of factory hammering)........I cannot believe how much better it sounds for my taste.......and looks killer!
@@daviewavie112 I rounded the corners on a 6x6 to help make better contact with the bow curvature. I actually got lucky because I really gave her the business.....but it sounds way different and better for my taste.
Just listen to an Earth Ride. These are pressed into shape but unhammered and unlathed. For a full on demo of how the different steps change the sound I have given a link below to a Zildjian blank turned into a finished cymbal by Independent Cymbalsmith Craig Lauritsen. You can hear and see the changes it goes through. th-cam.com/video/SaKAg6j0SDs/w-d-xo.html
@@zenstat2 The Earth Ride is an impressive cymbal. Weighs a ton and has a special sound for special (dry) circumstances...... When doing a demo of this and that manufacturing technique, it would be good to use both unlathed plus unhamered samples as reference tones.
Excellent video. Really simply explains what lathing and hammering is and does
Great informative video.....but I can''t resist...1:44 "The peen size is relative large" lolololololol
I hammered my 21" Sweet Ride(mine showed no signs of factory hammering)........I cannot believe how much better it sounds for my taste.......and looks killer!
drummer4hire12 What type of hammer did you use?
@@Assimilator702 just a normal ball-pein hammer that I bought from horrible fright.....
drummer4hire12 did you just place the cymbal on a piece of wood or something and go at it?
@@daviewavie112 I rounded the corners on a 6x6 to help make better contact with the bow curvature. I actually got lucky because I really gave her the business.....but it sounds way different and better for my taste.
David Stefanowicz The area right underneath the surface being hammered needs to be fully supported. Usually guys use a tree stump.
amazing stuff, thats what really need to know :)
sweet ride all day perfect tone really bright when you 1st have it sounds better the longer u have it for just a great tone
An unlathed, unhammered raw cymbal demo would be nice.
It wouldn't sound great. No hammering means no shape or tension. It wouldn't sound like a cymbal
Just listen to an Earth Ride. These are pressed into shape but unhammered and unlathed.
For a full on demo of how the different steps change the sound I have given a link below to a Zildjian blank turned into a finished cymbal by Independent Cymbalsmith Craig Lauritsen. You can hear and see the changes it goes through.
th-cam.com/video/SaKAg6j0SDs/w-d-xo.html
@@zenstat2 The Earth Ride is an impressive cymbal. Weighs a ton and has a special sound for special (dry) circumstances...... When doing a demo of this and that manufacturing technique, it would be good to use both unlathed plus unhamered samples as reference tones.
@@dave90mckeague um, not true. Zildjian Earth Ride isn't lathed OR hammered. It's dark and slightly dry, but it definitely sounds like a cymbal.
'The peen size is relatively large". -NICE-
Zildjian K Custom Special Dry Ride aka St Anger by Metallica
what about the sound from an unlathed hammer cymbal?
How does "complex" sound like?
Complex sounding cymbals have more pronounced overtones and undertones and they sound kinda out of tune. The fundamental pitch isn't that pronounced.
The only proper comparison would be to take two exact cymbals of same size, weight, and lathing style, ..and then one is hammered.
Maybe for a comparison video between hammered and unhammered cymbals.
But this is not a comparison video between hammered and unhammered cymbals.
3:46 4:18 - Release comparison
The second cymbal sounds like a gong from ancient china being played with drumsticks
Why aren't you comparing K against another K OR A against another A?
The background music is distracting and a little loud for this type of video. Please consider a different mix for future videos.
he turned it off for the sound yest, seemed fine.
The K sound like a round piece of sheet metal with a hole in the middle.
Let's go canes
He said PEEN SIZE
Zildjian machine hammers all the cymbals to keep cost low. But a K cost more than 500€, they are pure trash... Most overrated cymbal company out there
the way he hit the cymbals for a sound test it's pretty obvious that he's not a drummer. just a guy who knows the characteristics of each cymbals
The dry ride kind of sounds like a trash can lid to me nice bell though.
"lathing" ....
It's called turning if cutting or spinning if spun on a mold.
You should know better.