I Battled for 10th at The Berlin Half Marathon
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When I go for a MTB ride, 3:22/km is perfectly fine pace, on a bike! geeez, you all run so fast!
Yessssssss!! Totally agree! I am ecstatic when I can consistently run anywhere below 6mins/km!!!
Yesterday, I ran my first marathon. The London marathon 2024. I had an injury that meant I could only do 8 weeks’ training. Really appreciated your message here. I felt really disappointed with my 4hrs 40 time. I’ve run half marathons in 1.50. But must remember that it’s an accomplishment to finish in itself. And I didn’t completely ‘bonk’, even though I cannot walk today!!! Thanks Philly. You are the best!!
I want to run London! But I’m from the USA 😢
Congrats on 10th, and thanks for the break down. Although we're very different runners, I can relate to your disappointment when you saw the clock tick over 72:00. At Farnborough this year I broke 90 minues for the first time, but on the watch on route I was sure I was on for 1:28:xx and when I eventually came in at 1:29:15 instead of being over the moon with a massive PB I would never have dreamed of a year ago, I was really annoyed! It's weird how runner's brain works, clutching defeat from the jaws of victory eh?!
Anyhoo, it's been great to see you push on and improve over the last year, and I find your positivity and honest appraisals of your races really inspirational. Keep up the good work!
I had a half marathon in February. As I approached the line, I saw the clock ticking up 1:34:50, 1:34:51, 1:34:52. My fastest pace all race came in those last few seconds, and I made it to 1:34:59. As the difference between a 7:23 or 7:24 PB, it was meaningless. But man, I think that I would have been a LOT less happy with my result had I been a second slower.
Yeah but it's ultimately that mentality that will drive you to get faster. As long as you keep a sense of perspective and do feel a sense of pride at how far you've come, it's normal and healthy to be annoyed at things that go wrong. There's more than enough room in our heads to feel the positive and negative simultaneously
Not that getting faster is the be all and end all, but for many of us we would lose a lot of love for running if the self competition element disappeared
@@SuperFuzzyDunlop Agreed. Like Phily, I checked myself after the finish at Farnborough because I had hit my actual target, and I could get 1:28 another day.
Flying in the face of Phily's advice at the end of the video, I'm very much time orientated, but it's helped me get PB after PB over the last year. I'm never going to get close to bothering the elites so position is all but pointless to me, but having a tough but acheivable time-based target really helps me focus in a race.
On the trails, where I'm never going to get PBs, it's all about just making sure I look up and around to enjoy the views. 😃
For me this was right up there, arguably one of your very best videos ever. I love LOVE it when you get into your race craft, your mentality, your desire and goals. Elite altheles rarely can speak to the average, and you excel at this Phily 💪💪🙏🙏
Thanks for the great advice. Getting obsessed with times is so relatable, thank you for bringing this up and talking about it. This has been really helpful for me, keep up the great videos and LOVE THE GRIND 💪
To many people TIME is everything & I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. I battled for years to get a sub 18 5k. It was this target time that got me out In the dark, the rain, the snow. Got me down the gym , changing my diet, buying best shoes, quitting alcohol & getting enough sleep. Yes It was an arbitrary time but my quest for It was what motivated me.
5k Pb - 17.47.
Thanks for the break down of your race, that's super interesting and you make it relatable even though I could barely keep up with you on a bike.
I'm not really competitive but I've noticed how little things can cloud over things I could be proud of or happy about. For my next race ( a 20k), my goal is to do a tough race. I always run too conservatively because I'm afraid of going too hard and blow up. So yeah my aim is to trust myself a bit more and go hard. Not sure I'll be able to to it, we shall see. All the best and thank you for your awesome channel!
So cool to see you being at least a tiny bit proud of you! You did amazing both regarding your rank and your time, it’s impressive! Keep loving the grind and keep thriving at this sport, you’re such an inspiration for us! (Love from France 🇫🇷) ❤
Love ya Phily ❤❤❤awesome as always!
Phily, your super power in races is split consistency! =D Your training and discipline shines through when you race, for sure. Love the high altitude videos =D LOVE THE GRIIIIINDDDDDDD
Sitting here in my "Love the Grind" T-shirt, loving you talk about loving the grind! It's amazing what a boost others can have on you isn't it. Thanks for sharing these thoughts with us, and mega congratulations - I'm so proud of you! ✌💪🤩
Hello Phily, I'm from Brazil and I'm loving your content, I'm an athlete and this weekend I have a half marathon, which I would really like to run in 1h22 - 1h23, your content has helped me a lot, especially to control anxiety and nervousness before the test, keep up your incredible work! I'm rooting for you here in Brazil
Congratulations! 🎊🎈🎉
Youre doing great! Great job!
Heard a nice one after my HM yesterday:
The pain will go away, but pride about your race stays… 😊
Congratulations Philly 🎉
Ohhh how I love sundays when I get finished with my double and watching Phily while doing strength work😊😊
the editing is hilarious and i love your storytelling! congrats on the race!!
I adore u Phily thanks for inspiring me every day
Your performance is inspirational! Keep up with the great work you are doing.
Thank you for your wise words about you. Half Marathon.
Hey I kinda had the same thing happen at Reading half, but I will take what you said and apply it to my sprint triathlon at Hook next month.
Brilliant video PBs vs racing thank you
The time vs. placing factor is very interesting!
Take Boston marathon for example. For most people it won't be a PB course - it's all about a race strategy that allows the best placing.
I find that way more fascinating than just running for a time/PB
You hit it directly, when you say "time not important, only position important" ("Fifth Element" inspired).
As I get older it's been hard to force myself in to that transition, getting a different mindset.
I still fail at it, much to often 😀
It would help if more races had clear age-grouping...
I had a race this spring where I came in as no. 72 (! sigh...) and I got so totally depressed, because I wanted to be among the first 30 or at least 50 runners.
And then discovered I was a very clear winner of my agegroup by more than three minutes.
But I still want to compete as much as I can with you younger runners, more than half my age 😀
As an amateur I do not have sponsors pushing for results and exposure but can 100% got for "run for fun, race for fun".
But we all know, that running is more important than life 😉
Ran a HM this weekend. At mile 12 or so I found it hard to push as I could not see the runner in front or behind. Was definitely a battle to continue knowing that my position would not change regardless of what I did
I had a 10 mile race yesterday and got so overstimulated by all the people I had to slow down significantly. But I didn't stop and finished it and I'm so proud of myself. I didn't get my goal time but I achieved something either way
You were flying when you pasted Lilly, always watching your videos, keep going,
I can totally relate to the bed head😂! As a former gymnast and now a gymnastic coach, one of the things I like about running is it's not subjectively judged by others. Your place is your place , and your time is your time. Learning to race is an art form ! (By the way, Mr. MOOSE was my favorite on Captain Kangaroo!)
Bea told better help she had probably doubts that she had an eating disorder, she told her to just eat and spit her food... There are thousands of other people with such stories from better help.... would not recommend promoting them.
Great job proving the point of starting out slower!
I could probably break my PRs on a treadmill because all my races have been hilly, but I don’t do that because time is not more important than enjoying the act of racing! I’m really happy to hear you talking about that, I don’t hear anyone else doing it.
Racing without a watch or with a tape on your watch can be a good idea to learn to RACE the people around without focusing on time. Thats how we did it 20 years ago and we’d be faster or slower depending on how the race around us went. Time mattered but not as much, we would also do Pb’s without focusing on doing them 😂, not to mention how we would learn to listen to our bodies a lot more. Lovely video Phily
The sport of athletics has become very stats and tech obsessed
What?? 20 years ago people wrote their splits on their arms and used a stop watch. It's just easier to do now.
@@erics7226 yes! it is much easier now, I don't think you got my point though.
Hi thanks for making this video, was perfect timing for me having completed London in four hours and 22 seconds, way off my PB and so close to sub four hours but my goal was to have fun, did I achieve that yes, was I disappointed yes, do I need to have a word with myself yes, but this video really helped me so thanks - PS perhaps I need some coaching tips!
Awesomeness 👌 Amazing 🙌
Mr. Moosey!!! Thank you!
Thanks!
"I'M A STAG!" lol Daniel
The three hour target for the marathon is an interesting one. Watch Tim Grose's statistical analysis. Those who succeeded in getting sub 3, in general ran positive splits, but with less than two mins difference between first and second half, whereas those failing to go sub 3, often collapsed majorly near the end (so bigger positive splits), when they realised they would not get the sub 3 goal. It shows the power of the same target, to positively influence some, and negatively influence others, depending on which side of the line they fell under.
Great video, I’m 62 now and at about 55. Goal is where I placed in age group m. I know longer have to worry about trying to beat my 35-year-old time anything like that so I just really sit there race my ability and my goal at the end is just to see where I placed in my age group sometimes it’s a good determine sometimes too bad, you know you’re the only one in your age group it’s pretty easy to place. I try to drop it down to the next age group just to see how I did.
Great video and yes, there is so much more than time but it's so easy to forget that. BTW there is a definite lack of baguette or pastries in this video. I hope this will be rectified after your next long run ;-)
I love running for place so much more than time because an arbitrary number just doesn't motivate me the way getting points for my team does! I really relate to the struggle with qualifying standards making themselves hard to forget during the race
Phily Phily please stop promoting better help please read about the terrible things this company do
they have a history of selling consumer data without asking and there have been numerous accounts of improper treatment on both the company's behalf and the therapists.
all around not a service i would say is acting in best interest/in good faith
THIS!
If she believes in it, she should promote it. Lots of pro athletes promoting gambling, alcohol,and junk food.
Please listen to us, Phily.
I tried using BH and when I was in a very dark place I reached out to my "licensed professional" and told them how I was feeling. They replied a few days (!) later and told me to watch some funny cat videos on YT. So unprofessional and yes, I'm aware it's not a crisis line, but it was all I had access to at the time and that made me feel actively worse, as if I was being mocked.
If it has helped anyone, I'm so pleased but it was a terrible experience for me, and knowing more about BH it seems like such a bad company and could actively harm people.😢
@@TheSlipperyNoodle She never said she believed in Better Help. She said she believes in therapy, not that she’s using their services.
I think you got that right - it was a great performance. Keep convincing yourself of it please;-)
Also, this may be that rare occasion where you should embrace at least one excuse. 20C is not PB temp. That's what I tell myself after Boston last week (humblebrag😛). So far doing a good job of being very happy with having paced it decently, having held on for dear life till the finish, moving up in the field, and generally having a blast. (And running the last 2 miles faster than a TH-cam personality with a PB an hour below mine.🤭) Rather than focusing on a 7min positive split.
I love the saying: don’t let perfect get in the way of progression
Love how you did your hair in copenhagen 😍😍
I’m moving away from the north west soon and don’t live too close so I was kind of gutted not being able to shout “come on Phily/Daniel!” when walking on the Middlewood Way just on the off chance that you guys were training there today. Unless I’m reading the times/rankings wrong, looks like you’re still ranked no 1 in 2024 among British marathon runners …even after the London Marathon today..
Question: you talked about those last three miles that were really really hard; what do you physically feel at those times? Is it essentially running at (near) max heart rate and feeling your lungs and heart may soon give out, or is it more like a pure exhaustion kind of thing, and not necessarily reaching a super high heart rate?
Also, congratz on the race!! 🙌
You did very well with a PB and top 10 finish ahead of some strong athletes with international championship experience, given the circumstances. While the course in Berlin is certainly suitable for fast times, with the heat and some wind on that day it really wasn’t ideal conditions to set records. For comparison, even the men’s winner Daniel Ebenyo started out with splits at world record pace, then faded pretty badly and not just missed the WR by a lot, but also the course record, and probably any other personal time goal he had in mind. But he still managed to hang on to first place in this race. And as you said, trying to beat the athletes on a level around you is what ultimately matters in any competitive race.
Smashed it, Philly! Love the grind!
I wonder how to balance the whole fixation on numbers thing. Because I'm naturally very competitive and it's a lot of fun for me to tick off those goal times. Might be because I'm a beginner and progressing feels exciting. But how do you know when it's a little too much? When you run a race and beat yourself up or?
Yeah I think when it becomes unhelpful and gets you down it’s too much… but also sometimes that happens and we really miss the bar. So long as you can process it and come back with motivation for next time that’s all that really matters! And not walking around with a cloud over your head being moody for more than an hour, it’s not worth it!
@@PhilyBowden That makes a lot of sense. Thank you, Phily!
From Berlin to Font Romeu. Euro Phily....
I noticed you didn't say you personally used better help to find your therapist. Assuming you haven't used it, do you feel comfortable recommending it to others? You don't have to look too far to find stories of people who have had terrible experiences with it.
Big fan here, older, picked up running late in life. Not sure if this is the right video, or platform, to ask your take on nutrition and supplements. Would love to see a video on supplements, ie. vitamins, probiotics, creatine, etc., and if you think they are legit or a fad. Again, love your content.
This mindset is so relatable. Had sub-90 in my head and it totally ruined the enjoyment of my most recent race..
You mentioned after Copenhagen that you'd like to have your own pacer at the next marathon, how would that factor into shifting your perspective about timings and numbers? Would the plan be to do a couple of training sessions with them before race day?
The whole pacing thing seems a bit random, you often hear about people being subbed in on the day to do it.
I really enjoy seeing you talk about the psychology of running ❤
Yeah it can be super last minute WHO is pacing for the race organisers which is why I’d like to try my best to arrange my own. Yeah ideally I’d train with them one or twice or at least know them quite well!
10:49 totally not a moose...11:39 Mr. Metric is a stag! ...13:41 definitely not a moose. At least Daniel knows! 18:02 As I live and breathe, if you call me a moose one more time!
😂
A couple of weeks ago I ran Sheffield Half for the 5th time. Training had gone well and I was fairly confident I could break 80 minutes, which would be good going on a course with 300m of elevation gain. Unfortunately Storm Kathleen made an appearance that weekend and there was even an update from the organiser that should the race be called off we'd be informed by 6:30am. Garmin recorded the wind at 44kph (27mph), but I battled on and came through the finish 23rd at 1:20:54 PB'ing by over a minute. The lesson is if you want to break a target, pick a flat race 🤣
Do you use your phone to record your videos? Love them!
Not me watching this while it’s literally snowing outside and I have to go and run 10 miles 🥲😭
Well done ! I notice you had Nike on new sponsor ?
clearly not.. she warmed up in ON shoes
And here I am with a sub 1:50 goal for my June race 😂😂
Cloudmonsters the best easy run shoes!!
haha.. no. clearly you haven't tried many different shoes yet.
Nice video as always. First time ever seeing uou running in Nike shoes. New sponsorship?
i highly doubt it seeing as she wore Soar shorts and an unbranded sports bra
Anyone got a link for that NB bag
Imagen how it felt for Bekele when he ran 2 seconds of the WR
🎉🥇🎉
Once I dipped 72, 71.53 and last mile was ran through sheer fear of not breaking 72 and spent more time checking my watch in last mile than all d rest of race
Only one gel?
thank you for mentioning i'm not a moose daniel
Please run London Marathon!!!!!
One day!
❤❤❤
you should have ran london. you wouldve got gb champ
You make a compelling argument.... But I still have a time in mind to hit 😆
Who is coaching you now? You mentioned a few weeks ago that Helen was no longer working with you. Are you still a sponsored athlete? Clearly not by New Balance anymore since you wore Nike in Berlin and on several videos.
The conversion from miles to KM made me think about why I use KMs for running. I use miles for every other thing that involves distance, so I really don't know why it is KM for running!? 😕
HM on my 5k pace… oh gosh 😮
Can you tell yourself not to look at the clock at the very end? Big congrats!
shoes at 1:30 ???
Alphafly 3.
is that hr monitor on the arm? i noticed benisrunning had one that looks the exact same ha
Looks like the coros one.
You run the same race backwards faster than I would do. Well done.
Where did New Balance go? Nike race shoes?!?!?!? Also wonder how you use your Whoop data to influence your training plan.
She left them / they dropped her
I really expected you to mention that 72:00 is the Olympic standard for women's half marathon. I know you are focusing on 2028 and are not going this year but I have to think that was a significant mental barrier. You did talk about focusing on time but this feels like it would add extra weight to specific times when you don't want to focus on time.
I highly doubt you are using Better Help for therapy. They have a miserable reputation with questionable ethics. You lose credibility when you take sponsorship from disreputable companies.
Nike?not New Balance….🤔
I mentioned it on her last video. Looks like like she's without a sponsor at the moment.....
1:42 is very attractive!!
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It sounds like you are trying to talk yourself out of being disappointed. If you want to run faster you should still keep that goal. Failure drove me to do better in athletics
If you are saying that it was 20 Celsius at the start, then you would lose 5 seconds per mile compared to optimal conditions based on studies, so 66 seconds faster with optimal weather. Therefore even the time was great! Adding to this, the sun came out, during the race adding to the heat, which might be the reason for the drop of after 10 miles. Be proud!
That’s a nice idea, but practically not helpful at all. You can’t control the weather on olympic marathon day. Your time is your time. Own it
But on race day, everyone will lose 5 seconds pr mile. So in comparison to the competitors, it does make sense. But also when comparing your overall fitness, and performance on race day, it make sense.
Really annoying that you’ve fallen for the “Better Help” advertising. It’s just a scam. Fund your hobby by all means, but select better sponsors please.
Please stop promoting Better Help. Their business practices are horrible.
I’m extremely disappointed that you promote Better Help. I guess you don’t respect your viewers.
she prob doesn’t know, cut her some slack and encourage her to get informed instead
@@lilyhorta It’s her responsibility to research potential sponsors. There’s so much bad press on Better Help, it’s hard not to know.
@@emmaloucomfort6057 yeah, love that ideal
You would have placed top 6 had you not have the eating disorder!! : ( What's the saying: "If you ain't first your last!, but if your last, your first being last! And cheating with Nike Vapor 3's? that's cheating to the max!! Utter Crap!!!! GG! Philly, would that be like in the United States: Philly aka Philadelphia! If your nervous, tha'ts a sign of not being royally prepared!! Once an idiot, always an idiot!!!!! All Da best Philadelphia!!!! Woohoo! do you see a psychological coach! Turbulant? pushing mental disorders which eventually lead to eating disorders!! Process is not the answer, its obvious the answer is finding "FAITH" nothing else, simple PRAYER is the best Prayer!!!!! GG!
You sound like a lovely very reasonable person who acts on good faith, yeah you make religion such a compelling argument with your totally vulgar and factually incorrect comment
philly really love your videos full of personality, character, motivation ans still actually having good advice but better help isnt a great sponsor one google search and you can see the type of company and damage they can actually do id recommend doing a bit of research before next time but great video!
Phily, will you ever run Boston? (Also, you need to school yourself on what a moose 🫎 looks like 😂)
First 🤓 If only I was as fast at running as I am at clicking 🥲
haha