Your videos have made such a difference in my riding, no dolphins duck walking, it's all second nature to me, I practice every week, a motor officer noticed me going through the moves, asked me if I was a motor officer at one time,now that's a compliment,all thanks to you.
The most interesting thing I learned about this video, is I CAN make the turn. I lowered the rear of my bike and could no longer make a u-turn (within the required distance) while duck walking. I just figured it was an acceptable loss, for the look. I’ll be practicing this technique, for sure. Definitely need to be more proficient. Thanks!! 💪
Another great video! These tips have made riding the curvy roads here in the Italian Alps and slow maneuvering in tight spots much easier. Thanks Jerry!
Watching the videos of your students is always great, but seeing the Master himself in the seat is the benchmark for us to emulate. Also, with this video, being able to see first hand just how far you look back over your shoulder, shows exactly how much room I yet have for improvement. Thank you as always for helping us be better and staying safer! You really need to tell everyone about your Combo Deal for less than $90. That is less than ANYTHING we can purchase for our bike at the HD dealer and so much more valuable!
A viewer from Germany here. Your videos really helped me a lot to sharpen my ridings skills, excpecially when I got my Harley ST Deluxe a few weeks ago. If I would be anywhere near you I'd enroll in a training session for sure, but, alas, there's an ocean between us and then some miles... Anyhow, a big thumbs up and thank you, Sir!
The only time you will ever see Motorman "duck walk" a motorcycle! It's a little thing, but I appreciate these kind of videos. Satisfies my curiosity about other motorcycles' capability at low speeds whilst keeping me from having to "borrow" one from the dealer to find out for myself.
I was trying really hard to do a u turn in two parking spaces. Until I took out my measuring tape out of my saddle bag and learned that each space was 8’ apart so I was trying to do a u turn in a 16’. I did but my advice to you all is to take a measuring tape and check before you start practicing. That’s a beautiful bike by the way.
I had to laugh to myself at the start of this episode. Two years ago I road a buddy’s soft tail classic all summer. It was a really fun bike to ride. I tried to buy it off him, but no luck. The only thing that didn’t dawn on me was that the lean angle was a lot less than my FLHTP. I thought I was a rock star, scrapping the floor boards all over the place! I listened to you talk, Motor Man and wanted to smack my forehead really hard!
How tight? You mean with my feet on the pegs? Thanks to you, I can turn inside two parking spaces easily and have managed in a single parking spot a couple times. Well ok, I did run over the lines, a bit. And it was at a truck stop.
ALWAYS have your feet on the pegs. Your feet are part of the control that you have over the bike, especially if doing the Turn Hula. When your feet are off the pegs, you are balancing on the seat, like an elephant on a beach ball. On the pegs, you have five points of contact with the bike, and move WITH it, instead of ON it.
I have a 99 honda magna with a 65 inch wheelbase and it doesn't steer sharp so it was hard to turn. i have learned your techniques and have to lean it pretty far to make a turn but now i am turning as sharp as i need to. It takes more room to turn than an electraglide Thanks
Never thought I’d see three things: a million dollars, an honest politician, and motorman duck walking a bike. Well I guess one outta three ain’t bad…..
Impressive with a bike that "shouldn't" do that well! My bike's 66.5 inch wheelbase and 32.7 degrees rake, plus not the best fueling at low RPMs (partly my fault for tuning it for a Bonneville trip) and short friction zone (Yamaha's fault) is making it hard for me to get U-turns inside two parking spaces.
Love watching skilled riders do these exercises. Is it just me though, or does the front wheel describe a larger arc than the actual entrance to exit width? It seems the back wheel stays within that arc, but looks like the front wheel goes further, comes into the exit plane, straightens up, and exits. Yes, its a quibble. Yes, still doing a turn in under 18 feet total, but the front wheel arc requires more allowance than the rear?
You're overthinking this. Simply, turn your head and eyes as fast and far as possible, stay in the friction zone. That's it. Works the same way on all 2 wheeled vehicles including a bicycle.
thanks for the reply,!. I get the physics of the turn, and the look where you want to go. Comment was more about how it appears from the camera angles. Enjoy the riding!. @@motorman857
@motorman857 … Thank you Jerry ‘ for shearing your knowledge and experience. I’ve been using your technics for about two weeks now, and wow I’ve seen the difference. I’m a new rider bye the way, just started 4 months ago. Thank you again 😉🫡🤝🫵👊
Yes, but, the wide Glides handlebars turn very far from lock to lock. Generally, the longer the wheel base the wider the turning radius, but if you have a 40 degree lean angle, like a Goldwing, it will turn in under 18ft. The example in the above video shows how to figure out what the bike can do.
Well I see that they have the 18ft turning radius But I have not seen anyone turn the bike to the point of near scraping the ground like the other bikes If that makes sense
I tell people to NOT CARE about turning radius until they are consistently and confidently turning the bike as tightly as they can. The lines are a convenient marker for comparing how you're doing form one pass to the next, but the objective is to develop skill, not meet an arbitrary standard. Once you are turning properly, ONLY THEN does it matter what the radius is, and only then so you know if you have enough room to make a particular turn. Once you know what your bike requires of you, turns become easy and comfortable, and then you're ready to get into the cones and have some fun, rather than being terrified of them. This, of course, only works when someone has taken the time to do so, which is not generally the case with initial training sessions like RLAP or MSF, but it's obvious when someone comes back for an advanced course.
The turning radius IS important. As an example, an Indian Challenger at full lock straight up, takes about 25ft. Lean it to it's limit and you may get down to 22ft. You'll be banging your head against the wall trying to make it turn in under 18ft. So if you find a motorcycles radius at full lock straight up, you'll know pretty close what it can do at it's lean limit.
@@motorman857 What I meant was that it's the SECOND problem. The first is to get good at making the tightest turns possible -- get the skill -- then apply that skill where it is needed. When you can make the turn, it doesn't matter WHERE you make it, it works the same way in the cones or on the street. A rider can only be considered competent if he or she can turn to the ability of the motor. Our instructor, way back when I was young (and dinosaurs ruled the Earth) had a habit of singing "Give me 40 acres, and I'll turn this thing around"! on the PA when watching someone who was afraid of pulling the bars against the lock.
Your videos have made such a difference in my riding, no dolphins duck walking, it's all second nature to me, I practice every week, a motor officer noticed me going through the moves, asked me if I was a motor officer at one time,now that's a compliment,all thanks to you.
( doophis)
Another great demonstration by officer Palladino 😊❤
The most interesting thing I learned about this video, is I CAN make the turn. I lowered the rear of my bike and could no longer make a u-turn (within the required distance) while duck walking. I just figured it was an acceptable loss, for the look. I’ll be practicing this technique, for sure. Definitely need to be more proficient. Thanks!! 💪
The helmet cam view is really great because I emphasized when you turned your head and how far. Thank you for that added perspective!
Another great video! These tips have made riding the curvy roads here in the Italian Alps and slow maneuvering in tight spots much easier. Thanks Jerry!
Like to see some pictures.
Watching the videos of your students is always great, but seeing the Master himself in the seat is the benchmark for us to emulate. Also, with this video, being able to see first hand just how far you look back over your shoulder, shows exactly how much room I yet have for improvement. Thank you as always for helping us be better and staying safer! You really need to tell everyone about your Combo Deal for less than $90. That is less than ANYTHING we can purchase for our bike at the HD dealer and so much more valuable!
A viewer from Germany here. Your videos really helped me a lot to sharpen my ridings skills, excpecially when I got my Harley ST Deluxe a few weeks ago. If I would be anywhere near you I'd enroll in a training session for sure, but, alas, there's an ocean between us and then some miles...
Anyhow, a big thumbs up and thank you, Sir!
Showing your head turn on the video was a great tip while making the u turn.
I need more head turn!
Thanks to you and Mrs. Motorman!
The only time you will ever see Motorman "duck walk" a motorcycle!
It's a little thing, but I appreciate these kind of videos. Satisfies my curiosity about other motorcycles' capability at low speeds whilst keeping me from having to "borrow" one from the dealer to find out for myself.
You have surely saved some lives .
Your videos are superb and I have gained some useful tips. I only wish you had a training facility in the UK. I would sign up tomorrow!
Great presentation and nice demo showing the move. Thank you big help.
Good job Motorman! 💥💥💥
You are the man Jerry!👍
I was trying really hard to do a u turn in two parking spaces. Until I took out my measuring tape out of my saddle bag and learned that each space was 8’ apart so I was trying to do a u turn in a 16’. I did but my advice to you all is to take a measuring tape and check before you start practicing. That’s a beautiful bike by the way.
Do you live in Commiefornia?
Albuquerque
I had to laugh to myself at the start of this episode. Two years ago I road a buddy’s soft tail classic all summer. It was a really fun bike to ride. I tried to buy it off him, but no luck. The only thing that didn’t dawn on me was that the lean angle was a lot less than my FLHTP. I thought I was a rock star, scrapping the floor boards all over the place! I listened to you talk, Motor Man and wanted to smack my forehead really hard!
Getting ready to take my riders test in illinois,on a fatboy.
Good luck. Let us know how you do.
Thanks Brother! Always Great Info!!
How tight? You mean with my feet on the pegs? Thanks to you, I can turn inside two parking spaces easily and have managed in a single parking spot a couple times. Well ok, I did run over the lines, a bit. And it was at a truck stop.
ALWAYS have your feet on the pegs. Your feet are part of the control that you have over the bike, especially if doing the Turn Hula. When your feet are off the pegs, you are balancing on the seat, like an elephant on a beach ball. On the pegs, you have five points of contact with the bike, and move WITH it, instead of ON it.
I'd like to see you do tight turns with a Triumph Speedmaster. Just to see how it looks. Im thinking of buying one.
I have a 99 honda magna with a 65 inch wheelbase and it doesn't steer sharp so it was hard to turn. i have learned your techniques and have to lean it pretty far to make a turn but now i am turning as sharp as i need to. It takes more room to turn than an electraglide Thanks
Thanks Jerry
Never thought I’d see three things: a million dollars, an honest politician, and motorman duck walking a bike. Well I guess one outta three ain’t bad…..
My next goal.
Impressive with a bike that "shouldn't" do that well! My bike's 66.5 inch wheelbase and 32.7 degrees rake, plus not the best fueling at low RPMs (partly my fault for tuning it for a Bonneville trip) and short friction zone (Yamaha's fault) is making it hard for me to get U-turns inside two parking spaces.
So can I still use my rear brake when turning my handlebars if I have linked brakes?
Love watching skilled riders do these exercises. Is it just me though, or does the front wheel describe a larger arc than the actual entrance to exit width? It seems the back wheel stays within that arc, but looks like the front wheel goes further, comes into the exit plane, straightens up, and exits. Yes, its a quibble. Yes, still doing a turn in under 18 feet total, but the front wheel arc requires more allowance than the rear?
You're overthinking this. Simply, turn your head and eyes as fast and far as possible, stay in the friction zone. That's it. Works the same way on all 2 wheeled vehicles including a bicycle.
thanks for the reply,!. I get the physics of the turn, and the look where you want to go. Comment was more about how it appears from the camera angles. Enjoy the riding!. @@motorman857
@motorman857 … Thank you Jerry ‘ for shearing your knowledge and experience. I’ve been using your technics for about two weeks now, and wow I’ve seen the difference. I’m a new rider bye the way, just started 4 months ago. Thank you again 😉🫡🤝🫵👊
What about the amount of throttle?
So the longer the wheelbase and rake means a wider turn radius? My Dyna Wide Glide has a 97" wheelbase and a 36" rake.
Yes, but, the wide Glides handlebars turn very far from lock to lock. Generally, the longer the wheel base the wider the turning radius, but if you have a 40 degree lean angle, like a Goldwing, it will turn in under 18ft. The example in the above video shows how to figure out what the bike can do.
TY Sir!
@@motorman857
What gear are you in turning 🤔
1st gear
Hey Motor Man
What about the Low Rider S or ST I just asking??
Thanks
Are you asking about the turning radius of those 2 bikes? If so, they both turn in less than 18ft.
Well I see that they have the 18ft turning radius
But I have not seen anyone turn the bike to the point of near scraping the ground like the other bikes If that makes sense
👍🏿
I tell people to NOT CARE about turning radius until they are consistently and confidently turning the bike as tightly as they can. The lines are a convenient marker for comparing how you're doing form one pass to the next, but the objective is to develop skill, not meet an arbitrary standard.
Once you are turning properly, ONLY THEN does it matter what the radius is, and only then so you know if you have enough room to make a particular turn. Once you know what your bike requires of you, turns become easy and comfortable, and then you're ready to get into the cones and have some fun, rather than being terrified of them.
This, of course, only works when someone has taken the time to do so, which is not generally the case with initial training sessions like RLAP or MSF, but it's obvious when someone comes back for an advanced course.
The turning radius IS important. As an example, an Indian Challenger at full lock straight up, takes about 25ft. Lean it to it's limit and you may get down to 22ft. You'll be banging your head against the wall trying to make it turn in under 18ft. So if you find a motorcycles radius at full lock straight up, you'll know pretty close what it can do at it's lean limit.
@@motorman857 What I meant was that it's the SECOND problem. The first is to get good at making the tightest turns possible -- get the skill -- then apply that skill where it is needed. When you can make the turn, it doesn't matter WHERE you make it, it works the same way in the cones or on the street. A rider can only be considered competent if he or she can turn to the ability of the motor.
Our instructor, way back when I was young (and dinosaurs ruled the Earth) had a habit of singing "Give me 40 acres, and I'll turn this thing around"! on the PA when watching someone who was afraid of pulling the bars against the lock.