@@ITProTv In the VM explanation....you refer to partitions....is it fair to say that each partition is a VM....the two terms can be used interchangeably? In the car pooling analogy, does the car represent a single VM or a single piece of hardware?
I could explain in a three paper paper how much I appreciate this video and the various reasons, but I'll just keep it to the fact that I spent the last hour and half watching TH-cam videos on Containers vs VMs before coming across this one. You are a great teacher and thank you for the visuals and the real world comparisons with the car. Had to subscribe because of this one video. Thank you!
Nice, I was going all over youtube trying to get a clear explanation on just containers, I'm trying to build my own virtualization homelab server and learn about the tech involved and I just couldn't figure out why I wouldn't just run a trimmed down version of a VM lol now I get it, thanks.
Maybe it's worth mentioning, that VMs also have the advantage of being able to share computing resources across multiple users (partial virtualization), which comes handy. More, with a good setup and on a good HW, you can have more virtual instances than physical HW could provide. Both have their merits, of course. Good & simple to understand video - thumbs up.
This was spot on. With LXC, there’s an option to make the container unprivileged, so this will aid in isolating it from other containers from a security perspective.
De-duplication of storage (i.e. on NetApp) and in RAM (VSphere) greatly reduce VM resource consumption. If all the VM templates are identical copies of the same OS, then they can even run in hardware under a single, shared read-only code block.
Unfortunately all the tutorial I saw about Docker/ Containers doesn't really show how the applications can be use in a container. It's all about creating an image and downloading them. Does anyone know any youtube that shows how application can be run in a container. Thanks.
I don't understand one thing.. I ran alpine linux container and ubuntu container, 2 different linux distributions, how are they sharing the os on my ubuntu host or mac host? It appears they have their own OSs and you are saying they share OS.
4:00 will you please explain how VMs can NOT run in any of the environments you listed? VMs should be able to run in all of those environments though you may need to convert the VM image to the destination hyper-visor format.
Vms coming from chrostini doesn't feel right and it is a catainer because of chromeos was my first Unix like os and using it didn't feel right for home usage ; chrostini default terminal emulater isn't protected from nano's hot key ctrl w toys to close the emulator
Why not have a Hypervisor and a container both in the same, gets both advantages and also even better, you have multiple operating systems with hypevisor and also the advantages of the containers, multiple containers, there should be no issue now a days with so much memory and more powerful mobile phones.
Podman is a container hosting platform capable of running in user space so you do not have to be root to run it. You can learn more about it here: podman.io/
Pretty biased. After watching this I can see no reason to run VMs. So I guess we should containers for everything? Not so fast, containers have their own complexity, not touched upon here. I will say that if you crave auto-scaling, hardware-efficiency, etc - go with containers. If that is not important, avoid it - because you need *extra* expertise to run containers compared to "simple" VMs.
Virtual Machines (VM) are not treated fairly! My Virtualbox VMs on my Ryzen 3 2200G boots much faster from a SP nvme-SSD (3400/2300 MB/s). I just booted the VMs I need today; Xubuntu 22.04 LTS boots in 7.2 seconds; Ubuntu 16.04 ESM did boot in 10 seconds and Windows 11 Pro did boot in 53 seconds. In all 3 cases it included the typing of the password and loading the desktop.
Given the low prices of hardware and the fact that I can run multiples os such as windows server 2019/2022 windows 10/11 and Linux in my home pc, I'd rather virtualization and the full control that a virtual machine provides, what if you need ADDS or GPOs, what if you have an application that runs only in windows, will you implement both?, containers and virtualization?
does that mean that on a single hardware, if we use containers , all containers can only run one type of os? unlike with VM that can have different OS per vm.??
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Wow, this is the best comparison I have seen. The analogy of carpooling and car rental makes it so clear
Glad the analogy helped! Thanks for watching.
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In the VM explanation....you refer to partitions....is it fair to say that each partition is a VM....the two terms can be used interchangeably?
In the car pooling analogy, does the car represent a single VM or a single piece of hardware?
Actually I think I've got it....the car is the physical server....each passenger is a VM....I think.
I could explain in a three paper paper how much I appreciate this video and the various reasons, but I'll just keep it to the fact that I spent the last hour and half watching TH-cam videos on Containers vs VMs before coming across this one. You are a great teacher and thank you for the visuals and the real world comparisons with the car. Had to subscribe because of this one video. Thank you!
Ditto.
Same here!
By far the Best explanation I´ve found on youtube about containers, their purpose and benefits of using.
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The best explanation I've found about this topic!!
What a wonderful explanation! So clear and concise, straight to the point. Merci!
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This video is so helpful and easy to understand
Nice, I was going all over youtube trying to get a clear explanation on just containers, I'm trying to build my own virtualization homelab server and learn about the tech involved and I just couldn't figure out why I wouldn't just run a trimmed down version of a VM lol now I get it, thanks.
Maybe it's worth mentioning, that VMs also have the advantage of being able to share computing resources across multiple users (partial virtualization), which comes handy. More, with a good setup and on a good HW, you can have more virtual instances than physical HW could provide.
Both have their merits, of course.
Good & simple to understand video - thumbs up.
That is True!
Love this explanation, I was flattered in just first 2 min.. love this
This was spot on. With LXC, there’s an option to make the container unprivileged, so this will aid in isolating it from other containers from a security perspective.
You're absolutely right! It's surprising that LXC isn't more popular than it currently is. Thanks for watching!
Excellent video. Straight to the point and great visuals. Cheers.
De-duplication of storage (i.e. on NetApp) and in RAM (VSphere) greatly reduce VM resource consumption. If all the VM templates are identical copies of the same OS, then they can even run in hardware under a single, shared read-only code block.
Very simple explanation. Thanks 👍
Unfortunately all the tutorial I saw about Docker/ Containers doesn't really show how the applications can be use in a container. It's all about creating an image and downloading them. Does anyone know any youtube that shows how application can be run in a container. Thanks.
Your "VS" discussion was very helpful for me to determine my route! Thanks enjoyed the video!
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Don is always the best at explaining things!
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Awesome video!
Where can I find a full demo of a working virtual machine based on containers?
Thanks Mr (No Mole )De Niro ! 😎
Can you run both types on 1 ProxMox server using two drives?
I don't understand one thing.. I ran alpine linux container and ubuntu container, 2 different linux distributions, how are they sharing the os on my ubuntu host or mac host? It appears they have their own OSs and you are saying they share OS.
You can also run a container platform in a VM. I think you missed the security aspect. But still a good video.
Subtitles at 3:49 inaudible : "for those OSes" (plurial of operating system)
Lovely information thanks for it 👍
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me gustó el vídeo 😁
Very good explanation.
Thanks!
4:00 will you please explain how VMs can NOT run in any of the environments you listed? VMs should be able to run in all of those environments though you may need to convert the VM image to the destination hyper-visor format.
*thanks*
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Vms coming from chrostini doesn't feel right and it is a catainer because of chromeos was my first Unix like os and using it didn't feel right for home usage
; chrostini default terminal emulater isn't protected from nano's hot key ctrl w toys to close the emulator
Do anyone know how to install ProctorU VM with out being detectable?
Why not have a Hypervisor and a container both in the same, gets both advantages and also even better, you have multiple operating systems with hypevisor and also the advantages of the containers, multiple containers, there should be no issue now a days with so much memory and more powerful mobile phones.
Great content!
Thanks!
Mahalo for vid
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In this case, Where is the GUEST OS when we are talking about Containers?
Podman?
Podman is a container hosting platform capable of running in user space so you do not have to be root to run it. You can learn more about it here: podman.io/
@@ITProTv hey :) thanks for replying, I know I was just wondering why you haven’t mentioned podman. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Pretty biased. After watching this I can see no reason to run VMs. So I guess we should containers for everything? Not so fast, containers have their own complexity, not touched upon here. I will say that if you crave auto-scaling, hardware-efficiency, etc - go with containers. If that is not important, avoid it - because you need *extra* expertise to run containers compared to "simple" VMs.
Containers don't secure you against viruses.
why do you wear a completely dehumanizing corporate d o r k shirt? jfc
Don is actually AI, and the computer thought that shirt made him look more human. Clearly, it was a miss. We'll train the AI better for the future.
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Virtual Machines (VM) are not treated fairly! My Virtualbox VMs on my Ryzen 3 2200G boots much faster from a SP nvme-SSD (3400/2300 MB/s). I just booted the VMs I need today; Xubuntu 22.04 LTS boots in 7.2 seconds; Ubuntu 16.04 ESM did boot in 10 seconds and Windows 11 Pro did boot in 53 seconds. In all 3 cases it included the typing of the password and loading the desktop.
Amazing video !
Thank you!
Thanks for the explanation Al Bundy!
Excellent breakdown! Definitely have a better understanding of these two concepts after watching.
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Given the low prices of hardware and the fact that I can run multiples os such as windows server 2019/2022 windows 10/11 and Linux in my home pc, I'd rather virtualization and the full control that a virtual machine provides, what if you need ADDS or GPOs, what if you have an application that runs only in windows, will you implement both?, containers and virtualization?
does that mean that on a single hardware, if we use containers , all containers can only run one type of os? unlike with VM that can have different OS per vm.??