I love the way this episode directly contrasts Leeza’s demonstration of faith (forgiving and empowering Joe, seeking to improve herself, unshackling them both) against Bev’s demonstration of “faith” (belittling and overriding other people, using faith as a cudgel, until she’s the most powerful person in the room). It’s such an elegant illustration of how faith/belief can be wielded for good or bad - it all depends on the person’s choice.
This is one of my favourite episodes. The schoolroom/religious debate scene is amazingly written and performed. Also, I think Hamish Linklater’s performance throughout the whole show is utterly mesmerising.
“You reached through TIME, Joe Collie, and you stole!” Dude, that burst me into tears and stuck with me all these years. Her delivery, his reaction, it’s so powerful.
The actress who also Leeza gave the best, most emotional performance i may have ever seen by someone so young in that scene with Joe. Absolutely devastating.
God, the acting in this SHOW! I catch something new every time. Obviously, the Leeza and Joe scene, goodness, it just- yeah. And the fury we feel listening to Bev calmly cutting everyone off… grr! But I never noticed the sheriff’s body language in that scene. Do you notice how he steadily shrinks, wraps his arms, lowers his gaze. By the end he has a childlike grief and exhaustion on his face. He knew how this would go- he has been in this moment before- and he’s more than sad… he’s HURT. I always feel like Flannigan’s works have a breath of theatre in them and it seems to really show in Midnight Mass. He trusts his actors and he trusts his audience and it’s so immersive. I just adore every second.
Mike Flanagan casts are always so across the board talented. Every one of them. I hope Hamish Linklater (Father Paul) appears in more of his productions.
Everyone on the island except for the doctor’s mother is middle-aged or younger, so they don’t recognize that Father Paul is Monsignor Pruitt restored to youth. When Paul goes to give communion to Mildred, the doctor’s mother, she calls him John.
There are small instances of changes happening in different characters. The dad's back doesn't bother him anymore & mom doesn't need her glasses to read anymore, and the doctor's mom can climb the steps now.
The most impressive thing to me in the series to this point was the acting of the characters Joe Collie and Leeza in that camper. For such a young actor to be THAT good was amazing, but man, Robert Longstreet's portrayal of a broken man blew me away.
Ahhh I am loving these reactions!! Leeza’s monologue really is something else. Instant tears. Can’t wait for the next one
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The confrontation scene in Joe’s trailer is phenomenally written and acted. Maybe the part of the series that stuck with me the most. Great reaction as always!
Bev is the one character who gets under my skin the most in this series. Every episode gives you some information but still keeps the mystery secret. It's really well done.
@@CasualNerdReactions Bev is the perfect example of religious people who know all the words but don't live the words. She's judgmental, she's unkind, and she can twist any passage of the Bible to fit her own needs. There are far too many people like her in the real world. I think most of us have met at least one.
have we as society forgotten what winged blood drinkers are? 😄 seen rather few tractors call it out, though some have joked with the notion before the reveal, lol.
i dunno if it was ever confirmed in the show or if my memory is just confirming my own assumption but i took monsignor dying was Bev poisioning him because she wanted proof. he died the same way the dog did..... and when looking at it we see a bit of Bevs dress giving a plate of food to the dog before it dies from poison.
Not taking anything from the scene or Lisa’s character, but there’s a lot of having your cake and eating it too going on. You said it yourself, it’s only after she’s healed of her injury that she forgives Joe. And even so, she lays into him first, absolutely wrecking him. It’s all a lot more human than if she’d just serenely forgiven him while still paralyzed - but that’s sort of the point. It’s very human, not divine. Her poise makes her seem magnanimous, but her catharsis is less the foregiveness itself than everything she said before that. And that’s perfectly ok, but in the moment it _looks_ a lot more pious than it is. Which is a catchphrase for the show.
I don’t think the scene would be half as powerful if she just forgave him. It’s a near perfect scene, in my opinion. She has all sorts of complicated feelings about him, which seems very natural.
@@FilmBuff54 Brilliant scene, absolutely. Like I said, it doesn’t take anything away from it, and yes it is perfectly natural. If anything it only heightens it
The point is that she doesn't want to forgive Joe, but she realizes that her walking again is (as far as she knows) a miracle and a gift from God. So she feels she owes it to God to forgive Joe.
My favorite movie is Signs. It's so not about aliens you know? Just as this is not about the angel or monster loose in this town. Religion and how people respond is. I loathe Bev and understand the rest of the people in ways that shock me. While Poe is my favorite writer and no show has moved me like hill house...... I tell you the wrestling with faith and morality puts this as my favorite. Looking forward to all your thoughts!
This was an amazing episode. You're the first reactor I've seen that didn't immediately jump to the wrong conclusion and think that Bev poisoned Fr. Paul. The writer has said she did not and said what really happened. Even though I'm sure you're way ahead I won't say, just in case, for spoiler reasons.
That is not the "wrong conclusion". Despite what Flanagan may have said, it's clear in the show that Bev poisoned Father Paul. When he "dies" it is exactly like what happens when the dog dies. And the camera literally shows Bev putting back the poison. She clearly poisoned Father Paul.
@@jhornacek I thought the same when I first watched it but Flanagan wrote the show so he would know. If he says that's not what happened, then that's not what happened.
@ Except everything in the show says that's what happened. Don't know why after the show he's saying this, but if you ignore that interview and watch only the show, it's clear that Bev poisons Father Paul.
Don't feel obligated to respond, of course, but do you deal with speaking in your day job? You are such a good "public" speaker (to a camera, anyway) and it made me wonder what your career is.
More great reactions! I'm tempted to give you some small hints here, but I'm worried they might be spoilery. So I'm going to let you figure it out as The show goes on.
Hehe I just finished episode four. Like 5 minutes ago. I have many many more thoughts and one particular thing that I can’t believe never crossed my mind here. I even went back to rewatch the ending scene to be sure about what happened. 😅 thank you for avoiding spoilers.
@@sharpeslass5452 I suspect it involves something that didn't even slightly occur to me head but rammed into my brain the moment in episode 4 when he's burned by the sun 😅 I imagine more than one person will be yelling at the screen "IT'S A ____"
@@CasualNerdReactions And again I want to emphasize that THAT part of the show really isn't the important part; it's much deeper. And I won't even start to tell you how to process it, because I think we all do so on a personal level. (Assuming we get past the whole "horror story" element.) I will say, and I don't think this is a spoiler, that it doesn't really matter how you view religion or what your experience with faith is, it makes as strong a statement either way.
I love the way this episode directly contrasts Leeza’s demonstration of faith (forgiving and empowering Joe, seeking to improve herself, unshackling them both) against Bev’s demonstration of “faith” (belittling and overriding other people, using faith as a cudgel, until she’s the most powerful person in the room).
It’s such an elegant illustration of how faith/belief can be wielded for good or bad - it all depends on the person’s choice.
Rahul Kohli is at the very top of my list. ❤ That monologue to the son is beautiful.
This is one of my favourite episodes. The schoolroom/religious debate scene is amazingly written and performed. Also, I think Hamish Linklater’s performance throughout the whole show is utterly mesmerising.
he's a fantastic orator! how this was my first time seeing him (afaik) is bewildering
“You reached through TIME, Joe Collie, and you stole!” Dude, that burst me into tears and stuck with me all these years. Her delivery, his reaction, it’s so powerful.
The actress who also Leeza gave the best, most emotional performance i may have ever seen by someone so young in that scene with Joe. Absolutely devastating.
I agree, it was incredible.
God, the acting in this SHOW! I catch something new every time. Obviously, the Leeza and Joe scene, goodness, it just- yeah.
And the fury we feel listening to Bev calmly cutting everyone off… grr!
But I never noticed the sheriff’s body language in that scene. Do you notice how he steadily shrinks, wraps his arms, lowers his gaze. By the end he has a childlike grief and exhaustion on his face. He knew how this would go- he has been in this moment before- and he’s more than sad… he’s HURT.
I always feel like Flannigan’s works have a breath of theatre in them and it seems to really show in
Midnight Mass. He trusts his actors and he trusts his audience and it’s so immersive. I just adore every second.
Mike Flanagan casts are always so across the board talented. Every one of them. I hope Hamish Linklater (Father Paul) appears in more of his productions.
yes! I want to see more of him. He does sooooo good as Father Paul.
Everyone on the island except for the doctor’s mother is middle-aged or younger, so they don’t recognize that Father Paul is Monsignor Pruitt restored to youth.
When Paul goes to give communion to Mildred, the doctor’s mother, she calls him John.
My favorite thing about the show is watching the reactors. It is so interesting to see people frame what is going on through their own convictions.
There are small instances of changes happening in different characters. The dad's back doesn't bother him anymore & mom doesn't need her glasses to read anymore, and the doctor's mom can climb the steps now.
This is my favorite Robert Longstreet performance in any Mike Flanagan series or movie. I love the character of Joe Collie.
The most impressive thing to me in the series to this point was the acting of the characters Joe Collie and Leeza in that camper. For such a young actor to be THAT good was amazing, but man, Robert Longstreet's portrayal of a broken man blew me away.
Ahhh I am loving these reactions!! Leeza’s monologue really is something else. Instant tears. Can’t wait for the next one
The confrontation scene in Joe’s trailer is phenomenally written and acted. Maybe the part of the series that stuck with me the most. Great reaction as always!
Father Paul's eyes in the confession booth AGH
I had to pause after she confronted Joe in that trailer omg it was so powerful
Bev is the one character who gets under my skin the most in this series. Every episode gives you some information but still keeps the mystery secret. It's really well done.
BEV NEEDS TO SIT DOWN. That’s all. She’s eloquent as heck though.
@@CasualNerdReactions Bev is the perfect example of religious people who know all the words but don't live the words. She's judgmental, she's unkind, and she can twist any passage of the Bible to fit her own needs. There are far too many people like her in the real world. I think most of us have met at least one.
The Hate for Bev brewed strongly in this episode
I don’t want to say anything, because spoilers. 😆 But holy moly, I LOVE this show. From this episode onward, it gets crazier & crazier & crazier.
have we as society forgotten what winged blood drinkers are? 😄
seen rather few tractors call it out, though some have joked with the notion before the reveal, lol.
Bev would like to speak to your manager.
What is associated with blood and doesn't like the sun?
i dunno if it was ever confirmed in the show or if my memory is just confirming my own assumption but i took monsignor dying was Bev poisioning him because she wanted proof. he died the same way the dog did..... and when looking at it we see a bit of Bevs dress giving a plate of food to the dog before it dies from poison.
My favourite book by Stephen King has always been Salem’s Lot. And this feels much like a modern, subtle retelling of it. 👌
Not taking anything from the scene or Lisa’s character, but there’s a lot of having your cake and eating it too going on. You said it yourself, it’s only after she’s healed of her injury that she forgives Joe. And even so, she lays into him first, absolutely wrecking him. It’s all a lot more human than if she’d just serenely forgiven him while still paralyzed - but that’s sort of the point. It’s very human, not divine. Her poise makes her seem magnanimous, but her catharsis is less the foregiveness itself than everything she said before that. And that’s perfectly ok, but in the moment it _looks_ a lot more pious than it is. Which is a catchphrase for the show.
I don’t think the scene would be half as powerful if she just forgave him. It’s a near perfect scene, in my opinion. She has all sorts of complicated feelings about him, which seems very natural.
@@FilmBuff54 Brilliant scene, absolutely. Like I said, it doesn’t take anything away from it, and yes it is perfectly natural. If anything it only heightens it
The point is that she doesn't want to forgive Joe, but she realizes that her walking again is (as far as she knows) a miracle and a gift from God. So she feels she owes it to God to forgive Joe.
@@jhornacek Sure. Which makes it all sort of transactional.
My favorite movie is Signs. It's so not about aliens you know? Just as this is not about the angel or monster loose in this town. Religion and how people respond is. I loathe Bev and understand the rest of the people in ways that shock me. While Poe is my favorite writer and no show has moved me like hill house...... I tell you the wrestling with faith and morality puts this as my favorite. Looking forward to all your thoughts!
This was an amazing episode. You're the first reactor I've seen that didn't immediately jump to the wrong conclusion and think that Bev poisoned Fr. Paul. The writer has said she did not and said what really happened. Even though I'm sure you're way ahead I won't say, just in case, for spoiler reasons.
Oddly enough by the end I did think she killed him because I thought the way he died was exactly the same as in the midnight mass. 😅
That is not the "wrong conclusion". Despite what Flanagan may have said, it's clear in the show that Bev poisoned Father Paul. When he "dies" it is exactly like what happens when the dog dies. And the camera literally shows Bev putting back the poison. She clearly poisoned Father Paul.
@@jhornacek I thought the same when I first watched it but Flanagan wrote the show so he would know. If he says that's not what happened, then that's not what happened.
@ Except everything in the show says that's what happened. Don't know why after the show he's saying this, but if you ignore that interview and watch only the show, it's clear that Bev poisons Father Paul.
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U look like Greg Poehler 😅
Don't feel obligated to respond, of course, but do you deal with speaking in your day job? You are such a good "public" speaker (to a camera, anyway) and it made me wonder what your career is.
Once upon a time, yes! These days I am only doing TH-cam.
More great reactions! I'm tempted to give you some small hints here, but I'm worried they might be spoilery. So I'm going to let you figure it out as The show goes on.
Hehe I just finished episode four. Like 5 minutes ago. I have many many more thoughts and one particular thing that I can’t believe never crossed my mind here. I even went back to rewatch the ending scene to be sure about what happened. 😅 thank you for avoiding spoilers.
@CasualNerdReactions I'm guessing you figured out the thing I was going to hint about it at this point. Can't wait to see the next reaction
@@sharpeslass5452 I suspect it involves something that didn't even slightly occur to me head but rammed into my brain the moment in episode 4 when he's burned by the sun 😅 I imagine more than one person will be yelling at the screen "IT'S A ____"
@@CasualNerdReactions Ayup!! 💕
@@CasualNerdReactions And again I want to emphasize that THAT part of the show really isn't the important part; it's much deeper. And I won't even start to tell you how to process it, because I think we all do so on a personal level. (Assuming we get past the whole "horror story" element.) I will say, and I don't think this is a spoiler, that it doesn't really matter how you view religion or what your experience with faith is, it makes as strong a statement either way.
I am fairly certain that I hate Bev more than any other character from anything I've ever seen. Ever. Don't feel bad for not liking her.
I think by the end that’s exactly how I felt.
Beth is the worst person... even worse than Umbridge... she Poisoned the Dog and she just "killed" the priest
I wish they had cast someone else to play the old guy...
Seeing a young actor in old man makeup instantly spoiled the reveal for me.
"Do we burn Books we find slighty offensiv"
Well... yes... Americans do... well not burning but banning them from schools
Not to be the asshole, but I think your confusion at the end of the episode stems from having not seen enough movies. 😜