I always thought he (and Eric Roberts) did well for a 'pilot' movie where the movie itself wasn't the best of stories. Eric is also able to show this more with Big Finish too
@@richardwilliams5387 I had couple of reasons not to immediately take to McGann. 1st was I always thought of him from Withnail & I. 2nd, and far more importantly, he replaced my Doctor
This Movie was actually a Pilot for what was going to be Doctor Who's Revival series but it didn't do too well so the project was scrapped and then Doctor Who went back into hibernation again until they brought it back again in 2005. As a Result this was the only full length episode for Paul McGann as the Doctor.
The TH-cam channel Clever Dick Films has a great history of the Doctor Who. He's done 12 parts, so far, over 7 years, not including the side histories, and is now also updating some of the older parts.
3:38 Jelly Babies - a type of soft gummie popular in the UK carried and loved by Tom Baker's 4th Doctor. Even now in times of stress and confusion the Doctor may say "Would you like a jelly baby?" Example: it was one of the things 11 said in the Rebel Flesh when his Flesh duplicate was struggling to assimilate the memories of all his past incarnations.
Paul McGann recently did an interview where he said the Doctor should not have romantic relationships with companions, saying "The Doctor cannot be a love interest. It's impossible." His companion from Big Finish audio adventures said:"But now the Doctor is snogging all over the shop." McGann replied: "That's because of David Tennant! The David Cassidy of Doctors!" Tennant didn't write the scripts (any more than McGann did this), and only was mostly the one who got kissed. (He kissed Martha and possibly Astrid.)
Jon Pertwee's last story way back in 1974 has a chase that lasts almost an entire episode of a six part story: Pertwee was a bit of a thrill seeker and loved cars, speedboats, helicopters and there's an extended chase set piece where he keeps switching out vehicles.
People knock on this one a lot but I genuinely dig the hell out of this movie. With barely an hour together the 8th Doctor and Grace manage to be one of my favorite Doctor/companion relationships, and also the only Doctor and Companion I’ve ever wholeheartedly shipped. I even enjoy what Eric Roberts is doing as The Master here.
I enjoyed this movie, which I watched for the first time today. The end was a bit weird with the traveling on their own timelines somehow. I was surprised by the kind of negative wrapup discussion, but oh, well. This got me to watch the movie, which I'd been meaning to do, so it worked out for me.
@dansharp2860 Wheel in Space is the first time it's used, but in the Matt Smith story Vampires in Venice, he has a library card with the 1st Doctor's photo on it, and it's in the name John Smith.
Just to say since it doesn't seem like anyone else has, when paul auditioned for the role, he had a full head of long hair just off playing a vicar. But between getting the role and shooting, he played a soldier in Alien 3 and had completly shaved his head. So he's actually wearing a wig the whole film. A wig they 'fished out of a box', and was apparently very uncomfortable. In the DVD commentary, Paul simply stated '... I hated... that wig...' But they still had a blast shooting. The ettiquette was very different in Canada compared to the UK; there's not as strong a distinction between the actors and the rest of te crew over here, so Paul and Sylvester spent a lot of their lunch breaks regaling everyone with the legacy of Doctor Who. And of course, McCoy busted out his trusty spoons.
The twelve regenerations / thirteen incarnations 'rule' was coined in the Classic series. In Classic Who (minor spoiler) the Master has used up all his bodies and resorts to stealing other bodies. How this turns into his magic snake powers here is never really explained. The 'half-human' think is unique to the movie and a lot of fans just pretend it never happened. To be fair, there's a lot of "continuity" in the original 1963-87 run that is ignored or contradicted by subsequent production teams, so all canon is headcanon in my opinion. Paul McGann is a great Doctor, even if this arguably does not showcase his talent. I saw him at a live recording of one of the Doctor Who audio dramas and he was just so charismatic. To me it remains a great shame that he didn't get a full run of good stories to showcase his talent (I also love the TARDIS interior). Probably the most 90s thing about the TV Movie is that the location work was shot in Vancouver doubling for a US City.
The Seventh Doctor, played by the always excellent Sylvester McCoy, would later go on to play Radagast in Peter Jackson's The Hobbit trilogy. But it was frankly confusing, at least to those not familiar with the show, to have the movie start with one main character and transition into another so quickly. There are a few nods to the classic series in the post regeneration scenes. The scarf is evocative of Four's famously overlong staff (there's a story behind that scarf), and the bit with Eight rifling through lockers to find clothes is similar to what Three did after he regain consciousness post-regeneration. The Master's history at this point is...complicated. He was introduced in the Third Doctor's second series, played by Roger Delgado, and would go on to be a regular recurring character over the next three series. The unfortunate death of Roger in a car crash in Turkey put the character on the shelf for several years, before reappearing in the Fourth Doctor story The Deadly Assassin (a somewhat redundant title). By this point The Master was on his last life and his body had started to decay. Shenanigans ensued, and we didn't see him again until the penultimate story of the Fourth Doctor's era, The Keeper of Traken. More shenanigans (trying to avoid spoilers) saw him take over the body of one of the characters from that story, which we would see on a regular basis during the Fifth Doctor's run. His final story was the show's final story, Survival, before being brought back in this movie. As we know now, he was then resurrected by the Time Lord to fight in the Time War.
"So 90s it's 80s" XD Love Paul McGann. He's got such a velvety gothic voice. Perfect for audio. And it is canon. 13 lives is from The Deadly Assassin story. The half human thing... is complicated. Regarding the regeneration, this is one of my favourites. The orange glow is mostly a new series invention, and previous regens all had their own flair. This is by far the grimmest. Both the death and the change. No heroic fanfare. Just screaming in a hospital. It makes it stand out.
@@OldManFerdiad I guess, but 1-2 had that cool exposure effect, and the TARDIS freaking out, 2-3 had that whole psychodelic collider-scope sequence, 4-5 had the Watcher, 5-6 had the fever visions. And then there's this with the electro elenment. And as McCoy put it, the funny faces. :D
The glowy yellow sparkle dust regenerations are a 2005 onwards thing. Back in the day they were random and whatever the directors felt was cool at the time
I freaking love Paul McGann as the Doctor. I just wish we’d gotten to see him on screen more, and in a better, more British story. But also, this just shows why Americans shouldn’t be in charge of Doctor Who. 🙄
This is the first time ever that the Doctor kisses a companion which was really big controversey among fans since it was well established in Classic Who that the Doctor is an a-sexual character.
Wow, you are diving DEEP. Generally, the UK loved it, the USA was apathetic, McGann became beloved as #8. John Debney scored the heck out of this. He went on to score a LOT of genre stuff. The UK version had cuts to it because it was considered too violent. Visual effects producer was Tony Dow, aka Wally from Leave it to Beaver. There were bigger stories behind Chang Lee, the gang, and Grace and her life, but it was all cut for time. Eric Robert's movie wife is also his real life wife. :)
8 is my favourite Dr. He returns in 2001, within the audio dramas which remain some of the most popular sellers to this day. He was recently the lead in a Dr who stage reading/play last year, that was so much of a sell out, that they had to add extra dates to the show. He also won the "best Tardis Team" award just before the show returned in 2005, as voted in Dr Who Magazine, for his first set of audios with audio exclusive companion Charlie Pollard (he's done literally hundreds of them to date, even having whole boxsets set in the time war itself, and the events leading to it). There's always been a fan concensus to give him a proper series on TV, and certainly within the last year, I've noticed ppl becoming increasingly more vocal about the idea of bringing him back within the fandom. Paul has said he would be down to do it.
Ok so for the record since the question came up: the master using up all 13 regenerations and wanting to take the doctors own was a classic who invention, dating all the way back to the original master portrayal, Robert Delgado in the 70s. The goal of the classic series master was A) steal bodies to cheat death and avoid his regeneration limit (like what he did in this movie with Eric Roberts) and B) steal all of the doctors future lives. At the end of this movie, the master finally “dies” in the eye of harmony. But then the time lords revived him so he could fight in the time war and gave him a new set of 13 regenerations. Thats how we get The war master, played by Derek Jacobi in Utopia (alongside John hurts war doctor from the 50th anniversary, the 2 of them both challenged the daleks in the war before the master ran away and the doctor pressed the big red button). So the regeneration between Jacobi and simm in Utopia was the first time that the master Regenerated on screen!
The image of The Master as a Skeletor like creature looking out of his grandfather clock tardis is one of those that has been burned into my brain ever since.
Read the book, "The Nth Doctor" to find out what horrible plots were avoided before we ended up with this movie. We dodged a bullet there, (unlike Dr. 7!). ;) BTW #8 is wearing Wild Bill Hickock, minus the hat.
Typing this before watching, so you might have already covered this... the infamous line that has caused debates and arguments for decades now, "I'm half human, on my mother's side." ...One must remember Rule One: "The Doctor Lies."
The Doctor being called “John Smith” comes from the very first Doctor and is carried though all of them at various times. Incidentally this film was all shot in Vancouver BC 😏
The Master is a master hypnotist, which makes him much more believable to non-timelords. They don't really explain that though. Considering all the flaws, its a minor one. McGann is great, but the story was poor and largely despised at the time (a bit less so now) for the changes and Americanisation; and thoroughly confusing for the few in the States who saw it. And that reaction in USA was why no follow-up season was made. What I don't get is why Grace didn't just call the FBI when she realised there was no double exposure. Mulder and Scully would have been there quick for the two hearts thing, Mulder for the possible alien, Scully for the medical oddity. Speaking of Grace, while Daphne Ashbrook has been in Big Finish audios they haven't yet managed to secure rights to the character (unless something changed recently).
“Who wrote this???” 😂 Eric Roberts going from Terminator Master to full on camp once he dons the Galifreyan robes stating “I do like to dress for the occasion” is by far the best moment of the whole movie lol 😂😂😂
Hey guys, first time I've commented since 'Rose' I think but I just wanted to say I had such a good time watching this reaction. Very funny laughing along with you and this particular piece of media, and it gave me an interesting new perspective on it. The extent to which this could be read as a satire on the USA had never really occurred to me before. It might be worth mentioning this has a British writer and director, and lets just say it's better directed than it is written. As I understand it, British-born Philip Segal, who used to watch Dr Who in the 60s as a kid, moved to America with his family, grew up to be a TV producer and created SeaQuest DSV. True story. He acquired the American TV rights to Dr Who from the BBC at some point around 1988, and this was probably instrumental in preventing certain rival bids to revive Who in the early 90s. (Side note: as I understand it, the closest the BBC came to putting deal together to make a new TV series in the early 90s was with none other than Verity Lambert,, through her independent production company Cinema Verity.) Since Segal worked for Amblin by this point, the publicity value of the Spielberg connection I think convinced the BBC that this was their best bet. This production was commissioned as a Fox Tuesday night movie of the week, and essentially as a back-door pilot although I believe it was upgraded to full pilot status as production began. What had happened is Segal had pitched Dr Who as a series to all the networks, and failed in all cases. But the Head of Fox's TV movie division was British and commissioned this. IN a nutshell that's how this movie came to be. McGann was well-known to British TV viewers but was by no means a name, so Fox would only go ahead with a 'name' in the cast, hence Eric Roberts. Director Geoffrey Sax who I think personally does an excellent job found his shooting schedule cut by 4 days to save money. This meant it was difficult to solve certain script problems that emerged. Apparently the issue of how the Master gained re-entry to the TARDIS was one such problem that couldn't be solved, mainly because it would have involved re-shoots with Roberts, and being the most expensive member of the cast as the 'name' actor that was out of budget, So Sax chose simply to ignore it. The Doctor and the Master do have a history of breaking into each other's TARDIS. Watching this I thought probably what happened is when the Master slimed his way out of the lock he left a bit of slime behind in the lock which was able to open it back up for him. I think the general consensus is that the project failed to lead to a series because there were too many interests and executives of both sides of the pond to keep happy, and why would an American TV network commission a series in which they didn't hold the full IP?
This was originally a BBC/Fox television co-production and had been in development for a few years before it was eventually filmed and released in 1996. Funny that the both of you picked up about the American influence being added to a very British show, but surprisingly both the writer and the director were British. The movie got respectable ratings here in the UK which just made it more frustrating for us fans because we’d been starved of new Doctor Who for the past 7 years (since the last story, ironically titled “Survival” aired) and it also told us that “Doctor Who,” as a commodity and as an interest, was still remembered, still loved and still wanted. It was just a shame it wasn’t loved and wanted by the BBC, until another 9 years later when the show triumphantly returned to universal acclaim by fans and critics alike. Unfortunately, and rather stupidly, Fox put the movie up against “Roseanne,” which trashed it in the ratings, so the proposed future series (which hinged on the movie getting good audience figures) never happened. As much as I liked Paul McGann as the 8th Doctor, I’m not sure an American made series of Doctor Who (using the movie as a template) would have worked. What Americans (and other nationalities around the world) love about Doctor Who is that it is quintessentially British. Take too much of that out the show, and it isn’t Doctor Who anymore. That was what Fox didn’t understand. There were a number of things in the movie that went against it in the eyes of fandom. One of the most contentious was the Doctor saying he was “half-human,” which was not well received. Another was the Master coming back and being killed, off screen by the Daleks which was very lame. Here you have Doctor Who’s most iconic baddie and you don’t even show them on screen? Something else I personally didn’t like was The Master turning into this snake thing and possessing Eric Roberts! The worst thing, for me, about the TV movie was its storyline. Surely with the backing of big American money the movie’s writer could have gone bigger, story wise, and given us a proper time travel story that featured the Daleks in some insane plot to conquer and them subjugate the universe? What we got instead in the TV movie was a very dull, uninspired storyline that didn’t show American audiences what the Doctor’s talents were and what he could do to defeat whatever or whoever stood in his way. The only two things the movie got right in my mind was that they kept it canon to the classic era by having the 7th Doctor (Sylvester McCoy) regenerate into Paul McGann (who was great casting in the role of the 8th Doctor) and had he been armed with a better script and better ratings, McGann could have been successful in the part. Alas, it wasn’t to be, but the mistakes in the movie would help and inspire future show runner, Russell T. Davies, to avoid those mistakes when he was planning his 1st season of NuWho. So in that way, the TV movie being made served its purpose of how not to make “American” Doctor Who! 3/10 (1 point each for McGann, McCoy’s regeneration and the TARDIS interior).
The Classic Who regenerations were always done very differently with different special effects and the Doctor lays down dead and regenerates it was only NuWho in 2005 they introduced whole the stand-up golden energy which kind of takes the fun out of it now to be honest.
We waited over 6 years for new Doctor Who. We were so excited and then we watched it, lol. Could have been so good. I remember watching this on broadcast, part of me was happy doctor who was back but then part of me was disappointed that we got this.
16:10 yeah the classic who regenerations were completely different than the ones from 2005 onwards, each regeneration was unique and didn’t really stick to a certain style. 34:15 lmao late classic who era enters the chat. At some point in the 80s the showrunner completely removed the sonic screwdriver from the show because he felt it was becoming a cheap plot device for the doctor to get out of sticky situations, much like it is now in the modern show
Yes the TV Movie is canon since Paul McGann is the Eighth incarnation of the Doctor he is often referred as the George Lazenby of all the Doctors since this is his only appearance.
Best thing about this: Paul McGann. It's a shame he did not get to make the planned series. However, he has done LOADS of audio adventures as the Eighth Doctor. As for whether it is canon - mostly. The 13 lives IS definitely canon. No-one else has mentioned the half-human thing before BUT Steven Moffat has said in an interview that it is never said that is NOT true. As for the regeneration - they didn't have the regeneration energy that New Who has. They were all different (and pretty bad effects!). Finally, did you spot that the Seventh Doctor was Sylvester McCoy i.e. Radagast from the Hobbit films.
The bridge between #ClassicWho and #NuWho (which is 20 years old this year, so it ain't that new :))!!!!!! Okay, I'm getting out the good snacks because you made today a holiday!!!! :) #DoctorWho1996movie #EighthDoctor #PaulMcGann #DoctorWho
Yes - that is Will Sasso from Madtv The Doctor actually lost his sonic screwdiver in 1982 during the 5th Doctor era, and it was not seen again until this movie. The Doctor used it to lock the casket in the beginning of the movie. The sonic didn't have lights then. The sonic was introduced during the 2nd Doctor era, where it was jus that, a screwdriver. Its use became popularized during the 3rd Doctor Era, where it started to be able to do more things, mostly a physical things like a screwdriver would, but soundwaves (It's sonic after all) it was mostly used to open locks. In the late 70s 4th Doctor era, the Doctor traveled with a Time Lady, and had a robot computer dog, k-9. 2 genius Time Lords, with a super computer dog, and a sonic screwdriver that got them out many traps became... well, kinda dull. And at the budget the show had the time, it was hard to write convincing ways to challenge them (the show was notoriously underfunded) So the new Showrunner that came in 1980 got rid of the robot Dog, and Time Lady companion, then in 1981 the new Doctor came in., then during his first season, he lost the sonic. This movie, while connected to the original series, was meant to be a pilot for a new show, that was going to be a US/UK co production It aired on Fox, up against Rosanne, which was the number one show, and it got killed in the ratings. The UK ratings were actually pretty good, and if had done just a bit better in the US, it could have lead to a new series. They had plans, which changed a lot of things (The half human thing was part of it. They planned on having the Doctor looking for his Time Lord father. He did invite Grace, she turned around and invited him to stay with her
Even though I'm not a fan of this movie, the performance by Paul McGann was truly Doctor like. Great casting. It's really a shame that he never got to be the Doctor again.... 😅 .. ... . ..........
"Who wrote this!?!" - yeah, I don't even want to look it up cause I don't like to hold onto grudges. This was not great. We were happy as fans because we'd been deprived of DW for 5 years at this point, but looking back at it now... not good. That said, Paul McGann is an awesome actor and in Audio dramas he has redeemed himself and moved up the list to becoming one of my all time favorite Doctors. He's hilarious and I love his portrayal so much, especially once he gets his companion Liv Chenka, she's played by Nicola Walker and she's fabulous! Oh and btw Eric Roberts has come back as the Master in Audios too. River Song actually plays a part in his accidental rescue from the time vortex - Yeah audios are where DW shines, all eras get shoved in a blender. The 13 lives (12 regens) was established in Classic WHO. The Half Human thing is sorta only canon if you want it to be. You can workshop it real hard to make it work several ways. None of them are all that good or satisfying, or plausible, so it's been largely ignored. Again: "Who wrote this!?!" 🤣 Oh most people who react to Classic WHO grab stories at random. Only sesskasays has attempted all of Classic WHO (AFAIK) in order for reactions and she's 5 years in and not done till later this year. It's a lot so if you opt not to do the full rewatch, at least consider the fan suggested top stories.
If this movie done well then Paul Mcgan was set to be the Doctor in the tv show, the reason why it was received well is because they made a British Tv show into an American movie like its just too American
To think if she'd just paid more attention to the X-ray and listened to what her patient was trying to say he might have survived the American medical system.
When Sarah Jane met a science teacher in a school named John Smith, she said she knew a man going by that name too. Ofcourse it was the same man, but Sarah was a companion for the 3rd and the 4rd Doctor so that's how long he's been calling himself John Smith at the least.
Troughton starts the John Smith alias. In The Wheel In Space, companion Jamie uses it for him when he's unconscious, taking the name from a brand name on a container. The Doctor uses it himself in his last story, The War Games, and the Pertwee uses it in his first story as a name to give UNIT.
I'm grateful to this goofy-ass movie simply for the fact that we got Paul. I know y'all have heard of Big Finish audios, and he is seriously an all-time great Doctor with some of the deepest, creepiest, most esoteric stories. Dude is a fantastic actor. Not in this though. 😂
I fainted when I had the chicken pox and when I waited outside for a long time for free cheese and then went inside and it was cooler. Never from something scary or shocking emotionally, though.
@@uhfrank Interesting and thank you, not really looking for another patreon to support full time (in fact I'm considering dropping some) but I may join for a month or two to watch them react to that.
@Senkoau yeah no problem! I completely get it. those subs add up fast. if you happen to sub, even for a month or two, you'd be able to watch them record live during then for full length and the additional material. not that there's a lot past this point. I've been responsible for their additional watch material for the past month and I'll slowly be incorporating strategic material when i feel it's best
Oh my God, where did you find this! I have been wanting to see this again for so many years. I watched it when it first came out and I thought Eric Roberts sucked big time. I had high hopes for Paul McGann but this was all he got except for his audiobooks. And then they brought him back for a 10-minute prequel called The Night of the Doctor that ran before The Day of the Doctor. Thank you so much!
@michaelfinlay6341 a celery boutonnier? It was useful at times. I got the fourth doctor's scarf from the ants on Mars on christmas three years ago.. How about that doctor who special?
@TheDoctor4124 they had to show his death the series was canceled ten years before. I would have been fine with him continuing to be the doctor but I like mcgann
Make sure you see the short movies in between the can.The eighth and the ninth Doctor it shows you how he transfers.And then of course the war doctor on fiftieth anniversary
ive been on top of their external to the show viewing experience. they've been watching all the relevant minisodes and side content when best experienced
What a lovely little treat to have from you guys. It took me a few years after 1st seeing it in 96 to enjoy, but now it's become a personal favourite. If you think 90s was Who hokey, can't wait until you give an 80s story a viewing 😂
@@IsiahBradley an absolutely great story of all Who, but showing exactly the sort of budget the late 80s had that makes TV Movie seem like Big Screen event in comparison
The Eighth Doctor and Grace meet up again in the comic strip The Fallen, which you can see here as a very cool motion comic. It also explains the Master's weird Gooey snake form: th-cam.com/video/miWkG21tfl8/w-d-xo.html
Classic Who has great stories; this wasn't the best of stories, but it showed the potential for Paul and his Doctor. It is best to consider it a tv pilot, and with tv pilots, especially for sci-fi shows, it is a bit less than what the series would be, usually rougher and not as well executed.
This was a "pilot" for an American version. None of the original show's creatives worked on it. Other than the basic idea and at the time latest Doctor Sylvester McCoy were involved. Explains a lot. Lol.
A lot of things didn't work out from this movie, like the whole doodaad of the doctor and the master being actually siblings; but some other things were proted to nuwho like the time vortex and the title sequence style
The first Dalek story was recently rereleased in color and also recut. Think that might be a good story to watch to dip your toes in Classic eventually
No don't encourage them to watch the vandalised butchered version if there going to get into Classic Who for the first time they should get into properly as watched originally atleast on their first watch.
As bad as the Movie is it's definitely a lot closer to New Who than it is the classic series, RTD actually took a lot of inspiration from it when bringing the show back in 2005, especially when it came to the characterization of The Doctor
This is what happens when Doctor Who goes American lol it is an ok movie but it is definitely strange. But I still love it because it is from the Doctor Who Universe.
Do hope you check out the animated Who, The Scream of the Shalka with Richard E. Grant and Sophie Okenedo; for me the ninth Doctor and the first non-Caucasian companion. Looking forward to the opener for season eight. kerk
When it comes to a show like "Doctor Who" the cheap special effects aren't a big deal to us infact it always had a certain charm to it we didn't mind the bubblewrap monsters or the tinfoil robots "Dr. Who" was always a cult series it's not blockbustery like "Star Trek" or "Star Wars" it's entirely it's own thing it's the stories and characterisations that matter.
syntell how do u edit your videos cause im doing the same thing where ur reacting with ur friend on a call and i jusy need to know how ur doing this? THANK U
he doesn't check the youtube comments to avoid spoilers, because not a single one of his doctor who videos isnt without a ton of them. best bet is to ask him on his discord or his social media
Paul McGann, the new Doctor who wasn't served super well here has gone on to become a major fan favorite through audio stories.
I always thought he (and Eric Roberts) did well for a 'pilot' movie where the movie itself wasn't the best of stories. Eric is also able to show this more with Big Finish too
@@richardwilliams5387 I had couple of reasons not to immediately take to McGann.
1st was I always thought of him from Withnail & I.
2nd, and far more importantly, he replaced my Doctor
@@DuncanEvans-t7q "We have to get out of here... I've been called a ponce..."
@@DakNJaxter "What f....r said that?" Lol. I've always thought that movie could be remade as a Who parody lol
"Seems like an awfully small book for 900 years."
Me: "It's bigger on the inside." 😉
This Movie was actually a Pilot for what was going to be Doctor Who's Revival series but it didn't do too well so the project was scrapped and then Doctor Who went back into hibernation again until they brought it back again in 2005. As a Result this was the only full length episode for Paul McGann as the Doctor.
Revival.
The TH-cam channel Clever Dick Films has a great history of the Doctor Who. He's done 12 parts, so far, over 7 years, not including the side histories, and is now also updating some of the older parts.
3:38 Jelly Babies - a type of soft gummie popular in the UK carried and loved by Tom Baker's 4th Doctor. Even now in times of stress and confusion the Doctor may say "Would you like a jelly baby?" Example: it was one of the things 11 said in the Rebel Flesh when his Flesh duplicate was struggling to assimilate the memories of all his past incarnations.
Paul McGann recently did an interview where he said the Doctor should not have romantic relationships with companions, saying "The Doctor cannot be a love interest. It's impossible." His companion from Big Finish audio adventures said:"But now the Doctor is snogging all over the shop." McGann replied: "That's because of David Tennant! The David Cassidy of Doctors!" Tennant didn't write the scripts (any more than McGann did this), and only was mostly the one who got kissed. (He kissed Martha and possibly Astrid.)
He might not have had a full series, but Paul McGann is probably the best Doctor due to all his Big Finish Audio Stories
Eric Roberts has starred as the Master in a few audio spinoffs. McGann has done a lot of 8th Doctor audios.
Jon Pertwee's last story way back in 1974 has a chase that lasts almost an entire episode of a six part story: Pertwee was a bit of a thrill seeker and loved cars, speedboats, helicopters and there's an extended chase set piece where he keeps switching out vehicles.
@OldManFerdiad it was his last episode, so Pertwee wanted to have one last all-out go with the stunts
@@x-fun3149 absolutely, it felt like a gift from the production team to let him play with all the different vehicles
People knock on this one a lot but I genuinely dig the hell out of this movie. With barely an hour together the 8th Doctor and Grace manage to be one of my favorite Doctor/companion relationships, and also the only Doctor and Companion I’ve ever wholeheartedly shipped.
I even enjoy what Eric Roberts is doing as The Master here.
I enjoyed this movie, which I watched for the first time today. The end was a bit weird with the traveling on their own timelines somehow. I was surprised by the kind of negative wrapup discussion, but oh, well. This got me to watch the movie, which I'd been meaning to do, so it worked out for me.
When I saw “an adventure in space….” I knew this one was coming and I like it
The Doctor first goes by John Smith in the 1968 story The Wheel in Space.
Cool. I knew the 3rd Doctor used John Smith quite a bit but I wasn't sure if he was the first.
@dansharp2860 Wheel in Space is the first time it's used, but in the Matt Smith story Vampires in Venice, he has a library card with the 1st Doctor's photo on it, and it's in the name John Smith.
@@MJE-riffs Yeah, but that's just a bit of, admittedly cool, retconning.
Just to say since it doesn't seem like anyone else has, when paul auditioned for the role, he had a full head of long hair just off playing a vicar. But between getting the role and shooting, he played a soldier in Alien 3 and had completly shaved his head.
So he's actually wearing a wig the whole film. A wig they 'fished out of a box', and was apparently very uncomfortable. In the DVD commentary, Paul simply stated '... I hated... that wig...' But they still had a blast shooting.
The ettiquette was very different in Canada compared to the UK; there's not as strong a distinction between the actors and the rest of te crew over here, so Paul and Sylvester spent a lot of their lunch breaks regaling everyone with the legacy of Doctor Who. And of course, McCoy busted out his trusty spoons.
The twelve regenerations / thirteen incarnations 'rule' was coined in the Classic series. In Classic Who (minor spoiler) the Master has used up all his bodies and resorts to stealing other bodies. How this turns into his magic snake powers here is never really explained.
The 'half-human' think is unique to the movie and a lot of fans just pretend it never happened. To be fair, there's a lot of "continuity" in the original 1963-87 run that is ignored or contradicted by subsequent production teams, so all canon is headcanon in my opinion.
Paul McGann is a great Doctor, even if this arguably does not showcase his talent. I saw him at a live recording of one of the Doctor Who audio dramas and he was just so charismatic. To me it remains a great shame that he didn't get a full run of good stories to showcase his talent (I also love the TARDIS interior).
Probably the most 90s thing about the TV Movie is that the location work was shot in Vancouver doubling for a US City.
The Seventh Doctor, played by the always excellent Sylvester McCoy, would later go on to play Radagast in Peter Jackson's The Hobbit trilogy. But it was frankly confusing, at least to those not familiar with the show, to have the movie start with one main character and transition into another so quickly. There are a few nods to the classic series in the post regeneration scenes. The scarf is evocative of Four's famously overlong staff (there's a story behind that scarf), and the bit with Eight rifling through lockers to find clothes is similar to what Three did after he regain consciousness post-regeneration.
The Master's history at this point is...complicated. He was introduced in the Third Doctor's second series, played by Roger Delgado, and would go on to be a regular recurring character over the next three series. The unfortunate death of Roger in a car crash in Turkey put the character on the shelf for several years, before reappearing in the Fourth Doctor story The Deadly Assassin (a somewhat redundant title). By this point The Master was on his last life and his body had started to decay. Shenanigans ensued, and we didn't see him again until the penultimate story of the Fourth Doctor's era, The Keeper of Traken. More shenanigans (trying to avoid spoilers) saw him take over the body of one of the characters from that story, which we would see on a regular basis during the Fifth Doctor's run. His final story was the show's final story, Survival, before being brought back in this movie. As we know now, he was then resurrected by the Time Lord to fight in the Time War.
it's even more complicated than that, if you follow Big Finish
3:28 It's a time lord diary, it's bigger on the inside
Matthew Jacobs wrote this. He also wrote for _The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles._
"So 90s it's 80s" XD
Love Paul McGann. He's got such a velvety gothic voice. Perfect for audio.
And it is canon. 13 lives is from The Deadly Assassin story. The half human thing... is complicated.
Regarding the regeneration, this is one of my favourites. The orange glow is mostly a new series invention, and previous regens all had their own flair. This is by far the grimmest. Both the death and the change.
No heroic fanfare. Just screaming in a hospital. It makes it stand out.
Honestly, most of the Classic regenerations were a different variation on a cross fade, with each subsequent regeneration adding more effects.
@@OldManFerdiad I guess, but 1-2 had that cool exposure effect, and the TARDIS freaking out, 2-3 had that whole psychodelic collider-scope sequence, 4-5 had the Watcher, 5-6 had the fever visions. And then there's this with the electro elenment. And as McCoy put it, the funny faces. :D
It would be nice if every regeneration were different.
@@HuntingViolets Yeah, I agree. Especially if they could bring back some of the eerie quality.
He did invite her -- he said "Come with me." And she asked him to come with her instead.
The glowy yellow sparkle dust regenerations are a 2005 onwards thing. Back in the day they were random and whatever the directors felt was cool at the time
7:48 no, he used the name John Smith long before this.
You've seen the Time Lords in outfits like the Master wears here, though -- in the Tennant specials post-series four.
I freaking love Paul McGann as the Doctor. I just wish we’d gotten to see him on screen more, and in a better, more British story.
But also, this just shows why Americans shouldn’t be in charge of Doctor Who. 🙄
Big Finish and the brilliant Paul McGann has made 8 my favorite Doctor.
Ey they’re learning, at least its no longer the 90’s anymore lol
This is the first time ever that the Doctor kisses a companion which was really big controversey among fans since it was well established in Classic Who that the Doctor is an a-sexual character.
Wow, you are diving DEEP. Generally, the UK loved it, the USA was apathetic, McGann became beloved as #8. John Debney scored the heck out of this. He went on to score a LOT of genre stuff. The UK version had cuts to it because it was considered too violent. Visual effects producer was Tony Dow, aka Wally from Leave it to Beaver. There were bigger stories behind Chang Lee, the gang, and Grace and her life, but it was all cut for time. Eric Robert's movie wife is also his real life wife. :)
The weird-looking TARDIS key is the one used by the Third Doctor during his era.
8 is my favourite Dr.
He returns in 2001, within the audio dramas which remain some of the most popular sellers to this day. He was recently the lead in a Dr who stage reading/play last year, that was so much of a sell out, that they had to add extra dates to the show. He also won the "best Tardis Team" award just before the show returned in 2005, as voted in Dr Who Magazine, for his first set of audios with audio exclusive companion Charlie Pollard (he's done literally hundreds of them to date, even having whole boxsets set in the time war itself, and the events leading to it).
There's always been a fan concensus to give him a proper series on TV, and certainly within the last year, I've noticed ppl becoming increasingly more vocal about the idea of bringing him back within the fandom. Paul has said he would be down to do it.
I love this TARDIS interior -- even has chairs!
Ok so for the record since the question came up: the master using up all 13 regenerations and wanting to take the doctors own was a classic who invention, dating all the way back to the original master portrayal, Robert Delgado in the 70s. The goal of the classic series master was A) steal bodies to cheat death and avoid his regeneration limit (like what he did in this movie with Eric Roberts) and B) steal all of the doctors future lives.
At the end of this movie, the master finally “dies” in the eye of harmony. But then the time lords revived him so he could fight in the time war and gave him a new set of 13 regenerations. Thats how we get The war master, played by Derek Jacobi in Utopia (alongside John hurts war doctor from the 50th anniversary, the 2 of them both challenged the daleks in the war before the master ran away and the doctor pressed the big red button). So the regeneration between Jacobi and simm in Utopia was the first time that the master Regenerated on screen!
Bro did you watch in double speed?
SPOILERS!!!
Roger not Robert.
The image of The Master as a Skeletor like creature looking out of his grandfather clock tardis is one of those that has been burned into my brain ever since.
Read the book, "The Nth Doctor" to find out what horrible plots were avoided before we ended up with this movie. We dodged a bullet there, (unlike Dr. 7!). ;) BTW #8 is wearing Wild Bill Hickock, minus the hat.
I love Sylvester. S25 AND S26 are EXCELLENT.
Kind of helpful for them to watch this before watching the 50th shorts and episodes.
Typing this before watching, so you might have already covered this... the infamous line that has caused debates and arguments for decades now, "I'm half human, on my mother's side." ...One must remember Rule One: "The Doctor Lies."
The Doctor being called “John Smith” comes from the very first Doctor and is carried though all of them at various times.
Incidentally this film was all shot in Vancouver BC 😏
Emma Roberts is Eric's daughter. The Master being a symbiote in this film.
The Master is a master hypnotist, which makes him much more believable to non-timelords. They don't really explain that though. Considering all the flaws, its a minor one. McGann is great, but the story was poor and largely despised at the time (a bit less so now) for the changes and Americanisation; and thoroughly confusing for the few in the States who saw it. And that reaction in USA was why no follow-up season was made.
What I don't get is why Grace didn't just call the FBI when she realised there was no double exposure. Mulder and Scully would have been there quick for the two hearts thing, Mulder for the possible alien, Scully for the medical oddity.
Speaking of Grace, while Daphne Ashbrook has been in Big Finish audios they haven't yet managed to secure rights to the character (unless something changed recently).
“Who wrote this???” 😂 Eric Roberts going from Terminator Master to full on camp once he dons the Galifreyan robes stating “I do like to dress for the occasion” is by far the best moment of the whole movie lol 😂😂😂
Hey guys, first time I've commented since 'Rose' I think but I just wanted to say I had such a good time watching this reaction. Very funny laughing along with you and this particular piece of media, and it gave me an interesting new perspective on it. The extent to which this could be read as a satire on the USA had never really occurred to me before. It might be worth mentioning this has a British writer and director, and lets just say it's better directed than it is written.
As I understand it, British-born Philip Segal, who used to watch Dr Who in the 60s as a kid, moved to America with his family, grew up to be a TV producer and created SeaQuest DSV. True story. He acquired the American TV rights to Dr Who from the BBC at some point around 1988, and this was probably instrumental in preventing certain rival bids to revive Who in the early 90s.
(Side note: as I understand it, the closest the BBC came to putting deal together to make a new TV series in the early 90s was with none other than Verity Lambert,, through her independent production company Cinema Verity.)
Since Segal worked for Amblin by this point, the publicity value of the Spielberg connection I think convinced the BBC that this was their best bet.
This production was commissioned as a Fox Tuesday night movie of the week, and essentially as a back-door pilot although I believe it was upgraded to full pilot status as production began. What had happened is Segal had pitched Dr Who as a series to all the networks, and failed in all cases. But the Head of Fox's TV movie division was British and commissioned this. IN a nutshell that's how this movie came to be.
McGann was well-known to British TV viewers but was by no means a name, so Fox would only go ahead with a 'name' in the cast, hence Eric Roberts. Director Geoffrey Sax who I think personally does an excellent job found his shooting schedule cut by 4 days to save money. This meant it was difficult to solve certain script problems that emerged. Apparently the issue of how the Master gained re-entry to the TARDIS was one such problem that couldn't be solved, mainly because it would have involved re-shoots with Roberts, and being the most expensive member of the cast as the 'name' actor that was out of budget, So Sax chose simply to ignore it. The Doctor and the Master do have a history of breaking into each other's TARDIS. Watching this I thought probably what happened is when the Master slimed his way out of the lock he left a bit of slime behind in the lock which was able to open it back up for him.
I think the general consensus is that the project failed to lead to a series because there were too many interests and executives of both sides of the pond to keep happy, and why would an American TV network commission a series in which they didn't hold the full IP?
It's weird to think they were trying to pitch Michael Jackson as the doctor for a while for this
This was originally a BBC/Fox television co-production and had been in development for a few years before it was eventually filmed and released in 1996. Funny that the both of you picked up about the American influence being added to a very British show, but surprisingly both the writer and the director were British.
The movie got respectable ratings here in the UK which just made it more frustrating for us fans because we’d been starved of new Doctor Who for the past 7 years (since the last story, ironically titled “Survival” aired) and it also told us that “Doctor Who,” as a commodity and as an interest, was still remembered, still loved and still wanted. It was just a shame it wasn’t loved and wanted by the BBC, until another 9 years later when the show triumphantly returned to universal acclaim by fans and critics alike.
Unfortunately, and rather stupidly, Fox put the movie up against “Roseanne,” which trashed it in the ratings, so the proposed future series (which hinged on the movie getting good audience figures) never happened. As much as I liked Paul McGann as the 8th Doctor, I’m not sure an American made series of Doctor Who (using the movie as a template) would have worked. What Americans (and other nationalities around the world) love about Doctor Who is that it is quintessentially British. Take too much of that out the show, and it isn’t Doctor Who anymore. That was what Fox didn’t understand.
There were a number of things in the movie that went against it in the eyes of fandom. One of the most contentious was the Doctor saying he was “half-human,” which was not well received. Another was the Master coming back and being killed, off screen by the Daleks which was very lame. Here you have Doctor Who’s most iconic baddie and you don’t even show them on screen? Something else I personally didn’t like was The Master turning into this snake thing and possessing Eric Roberts!
The worst thing, for me, about the TV movie was its storyline. Surely with the backing of big American money the movie’s writer could have gone bigger, story wise, and given us a proper time travel story that featured the Daleks in some insane plot to conquer and them subjugate the universe? What we got instead in the TV movie was a very dull, uninspired storyline that didn’t show American audiences what the Doctor’s talents were and what he could do to defeat whatever or whoever stood in his way.
The only two things the movie got right in my mind was that they kept it canon to the classic era by having the 7th Doctor (Sylvester McCoy) regenerate into Paul McGann (who was great casting in the role of the 8th Doctor) and had he been armed with a better script and better ratings, McGann could have been successful in the part. Alas, it wasn’t to be, but the mistakes in the movie would help and inspire future show runner, Russell T. Davies, to avoid those mistakes when he was planning his 1st season of NuWho. So in that way, the TV movie being made served its purpose of how not to make “American” Doctor Who!
3/10 (1 point each for McGann, McCoy’s regeneration and the TARDIS interior).
The Doctor was over 900 years old at this point.
War games [1966] is the best classic who episode, it’s also in colour now
The Classic Who regenerations were always done very differently with different special effects and the Doctor lays down dead and regenerates it was only NuWho in 2005 they introduced whole the stand-up golden energy which kind of takes the fun out of it now to be honest.
We waited over 6 years for new Doctor Who. We were so excited and then we watched it, lol. Could have been so good. I remember watching this on broadcast, part of me was happy doctor who was back but then part of me was disappointed that we got this.
16:10 yeah the classic who regenerations were completely different than the ones from 2005 onwards, each regeneration was unique and didn’t really stick to a certain style.
34:15 lmao late classic who era enters the chat. At some point in the 80s the showrunner completely removed the sonic screwdriver from the show because he felt it was becoming a cheap plot device for the doctor to get out of sticky situations, much like it is now in the modern show
"Awfully small book for a 900 year diary..."
Hahahahaha! You forget! Its bigger on the inside!
Yes the TV Movie is canon since Paul McGann is the Eighth incarnation of the Doctor he is often referred as the George Lazenby of all the Doctors since this is his only appearance.
there was a screwdriver at the beginning
The Master's thing is hypnosis, so the way Lee doesn't really think too hard about how sus he is kinda tracks.
Eric Roberts is honestly my favorite Master of all time. Mostly because of all the audio dramas.
Best thing about this: Paul McGann. It's a shame he did not get to make the planned series. However, he has done LOADS of audio adventures as the Eighth Doctor. As for whether it is canon - mostly. The 13 lives IS definitely canon. No-one else has mentioned the half-human thing before BUT Steven Moffat has said in an interview that it is never said that is NOT true. As for the regeneration - they didn't have the regeneration energy that New Who has. They were all different (and pretty bad effects!). Finally, did you spot that the Seventh Doctor was Sylvester McCoy i.e. Radagast from the Hobbit films.
In my book Detours in Time and Space, I suggested that the Doctor might have read Grace's autobiography at some stage.
The 8th Doctor's adventures really got going in the BF Audios!!!!! His time has been Fantastic!
P.S. I am forever grateful to the Fox TV network for trying this and the first-ever #XMen live-action product--#GenerationX!!!
14:15 I think you were thinking of Frank Caliendo.
The bridge between #ClassicWho and #NuWho (which is 20 years old this year, so it ain't that new :))!!!!!!
Okay, I'm getting out the good snacks because you made today a holiday!!!! :) #DoctorWho1996movie #EighthDoctor #PaulMcGann #DoctorWho
the budget for the movie was only $5 million, i really enjoy it tbh.
I saw it at the pictures, ah, those halcyon days!
One of top-ten most beloved movies of all time next to Star Wars Christmas Special
Lol 😂😂😂😂😂
You ain't right!!! LOLOLOL
Thank you for the impetus for me to watch this, which I have been meaning to go. And now on to seeing what your thoughts are.
Yes - that is Will Sasso from Madtv
The Doctor actually lost his sonic screwdiver in 1982 during the 5th Doctor era, and it was not seen again until this movie. The Doctor used it to lock the casket in the beginning of the movie. The sonic didn't have lights then.
The sonic was introduced during the 2nd Doctor era, where it was jus that, a screwdriver. Its use became popularized during the 3rd Doctor Era, where it started to be able to do more things, mostly a physical things like a screwdriver would, but soundwaves (It's sonic after all) it was mostly used to open locks.
In the late 70s 4th Doctor era, the Doctor traveled with a Time Lady, and had a robot computer dog, k-9. 2 genius Time Lords, with a super computer dog, and a sonic screwdriver that got them out many traps became... well, kinda dull. And at the budget the show had the time, it was hard to write convincing ways to challenge them (the show was notoriously underfunded) So the new Showrunner that came in 1980 got rid of the robot Dog, and Time Lady companion, then in 1981 the new Doctor came in., then during his first season, he lost the sonic.
This movie, while connected to the original series, was meant to be a pilot for a new show, that was going to be a US/UK co production It aired on Fox, up against Rosanne, which was the number one show, and it got killed in the ratings. The UK ratings were actually pretty good, and if had done just a bit better in the US, it could have lead to a new series. They had plans, which changed a lot of things (The half human thing was part of it. They planned on having the Doctor looking for his Time Lord father.
He did invite Grace, she turned around and invited him to stay with her
Even though I'm not a fan of this movie, the performance by Paul McGann was truly Doctor like. Great casting. It's really a shame that he never got to be the Doctor again....
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"Who wrote this!?!" - yeah, I don't even want to look it up cause I don't like to hold onto grudges. This was not great. We were happy as fans because we'd been deprived of DW for 5 years at this point, but looking back at it now... not good. That said, Paul McGann is an awesome actor and in Audio dramas he has redeemed himself and moved up the list to becoming one of my all time favorite Doctors. He's hilarious and I love his portrayal so much, especially once he gets his companion Liv Chenka, she's played by Nicola Walker and she's fabulous! Oh and btw Eric Roberts has come back as the Master in Audios too. River Song actually plays a part in his accidental rescue from the time vortex - Yeah audios are where DW shines, all eras get shoved in a blender.
The 13 lives (12 regens) was established in Classic WHO. The Half Human thing is sorta only canon if you want it to be. You can workshop it real hard to make it work several ways. None of them are all that good or satisfying, or plausible, so it's been largely ignored. Again: "Who wrote this!?!" 🤣
Oh most people who react to Classic WHO grab stories at random. Only sesskasays has attempted all of Classic WHO (AFAIK) in order for reactions and she's 5 years in and not done till later this year. It's a lot so if you opt not to do the full rewatch, at least consider the fan suggested top stories.
Unless I’m mistaken, it was the most expensive TV Movie at the time it was made.
If this movie done well then Paul Mcgan was set to be the Doctor in the tv show, the reason why it was received well is because they made a British Tv show into an American movie like its just too American
To think if she'd just paid more attention to the X-ray and listened to what her patient was trying to say he might have survived the American medical system.
They had to redub the line "I have thirteen lives". In the script, it said "I have twelve lives." Someone miscounted.
When Sarah Jane met a science teacher in a school named John Smith, she said she knew a man going by that name too. Ofcourse it was the same man, but Sarah was a companion for the 3rd and the 4rd Doctor so that's how long he's been calling himself John Smith at the least.
Troughton starts the John Smith alias. In The Wheel In Space, companion Jamie uses it for him when he's unconscious, taking the name from a brand name on a container. The Doctor uses it himself in his last story, The War Games, and the Pertwee uses it in his first story as a name to give UNIT.
You could also check out the animated Scream of the Shalka.
I'm grateful to this goofy-ass movie simply for the fact that we got Paul. I know y'all have heard of Big Finish audios, and he is seriously an all-time great Doctor with some of the deepest, creepiest, most esoteric stories. Dude is a fantastic actor. Not in this though. 😂
It's also funny that Lestat keeps getting namedropped, because Paul played David Talbot in the Queen of the Damned movie.
It was a made-for-TV movie. A pilot, really.
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Too bad Paul McGann didn’t get to do more episodes. I think he was a great choice. At least I get him in audio books.
I love the scene of many mirrors.
I fainted when I had the chicken pox and when I waited outside for a long time for free cheese and then went inside and it was cooler. Never from something scary or shocking emotionally, though.
damn, now i feel like you guys have to watch the curse of fatal death
I agree.
@@Senkoau they did! all of the smaller stuff (aka not movies) are on their patreon
@@uhfrank Interesting and thank you, not really looking for another patreon to support full time (in fact I'm considering dropping some) but I may join for a month or two to watch them react to that.
@Senkoau yeah no problem! I completely get it. those subs add up fast. if you happen to sub, even for a month or two, you'd be able to watch them record live during then for full length and the additional material. not that there's a lot past this point. I've been responsible for their additional watch material for the past month and I'll slowly be incorporating strategic material when i feel it's best
Oh my God, where did you find this! I have been wanting to see this again for so many years. I watched it when it first came out and I thought Eric Roberts sucked big time. I had high hopes for Paul McGann but this was all he got except for his audiobooks. And then they brought him back for a 10-minute prequel called The Night of the Doctor that ran before The Day of the Doctor. Thank you so much!
Doctor Who 1996 TV Movie - you can youtube that and find it super easy if you wanted to find this
It was the 90s. Everyone went through a goth phase, including the Tardis.
Yes, but her design in this is gorgeous!
I'm a huge fan of who and I saw this on fox, the day it came out.I could not wait.Tom baker is my doctor
Peter Davison kid here, but I remember being so, so excited for this.
@michaelfinlay6341 a celery boutonnier? It was useful at times. I got the fourth doctor's scarf from the ants on Mars on christmas three years ago.. How about that doctor who special?
I saw this when it came out…I was personally sad as Sylvester was my fav doctor and still is
@@TheDoctor4124 and long live Radigast
@TheDoctor4124 they had to show his death the series was canceled ten years before. I would have been fine with him continuing to be the doctor but I like mcgann
Man Paul was really gyped but atleast he got a movie and we got to see the 7th doctor again
Yeah the big light show regenerations became a thing from 2005
Oh, no, Sarah Jane mentions her Doctor(s) using John Smith sometimes.
Make sure you see the short movies in between the can.The eighth and the ninth Doctor it shows you how he transfers.And then of course the war doctor on fiftieth anniversary
ive been on top of their external to the show viewing experience. they've been watching all the relevant minisodes and side content when best experienced
What a lovely little treat to have from you guys. It took me a few years after 1st seeing it in 96 to enjoy, but now it's become a personal favourite.
If you think 90s was Who hokey, can't wait until you give an 80s story a viewing 😂
I think they could stand the tenth- and twentieth-anniversary specials.
@IsiahBradley 20th anniversary special would be fun to see reaction to, I was thinking maybe Remembrance of the Daleks could be an interesting 1
@@DuncanEvans-t7q RIGHT!!!
@@IsiahBradley an absolutely great story of all Who, but showing exactly the sort of budget the late 80s had that makes TV Movie seem like Big Screen event in comparison
@@IsiahBradley do we need a Doctor by Doctor playlist? One from each of the Classic Doctors?
The Eighth Doctor and Grace meet up again in the comic strip The Fallen, which you can see here as a very cool motion comic. It also explains the Master's weird Gooey snake form: th-cam.com/video/miWkG21tfl8/w-d-xo.html
Classic Who has great stories; this wasn't the best of stories, but it showed the potential for Paul and his Doctor. It is best to consider it a tv pilot, and with tv pilots, especially for sci-fi shows, it is a bit less than what the series would be, usually rougher and not as well executed.
This was a "pilot" for an American version. None of the original show's creatives worked on it. Other than the basic idea and at the time latest Doctor Sylvester McCoy were involved. Explains a lot. Lol.
50th anniversary must watch after this
You should watch classic who!
A lot of things didn't work out from this movie, like the whole doodaad of the doctor and the master being actually siblings; but some other things were proted to nuwho like the time vortex and the title sequence style
The first Dalek story was recently rereleased in color and also recut. Think that might be a good story to watch to dip your toes in Classic eventually
No don't encourage them to watch the vandalised butchered version if there going to get into Classic Who for the first time they should get into properly as watched originally atleast on their first watch.
I guess they didn't see Y2K coming in 1996, or that New Years countdown would have been a lot more stressful.
Yeah! I am SOOOOO clicking on this now!
As bad as the Movie is it's definitely a lot closer to New Who than it is the classic series, RTD actually took a lot of inspiration from it when bringing the show back in 2005, especially when it came to the characterization of The Doctor
This was Fox so it probably had Power Ranger people working on it.
This is what happens when Doctor Who goes American lol it is an ok movie but it is definitely strange. But I still love it because it is from the Doctor Who Universe.
Do hope you check out the animated Who, The Scream of the Shalka with Richard E. Grant and Sophie Okenedo; for me the ninth Doctor and the first non-Caucasian companion. Looking forward to the opener for season eight. kerk
I love this movie!
Drink whenever he bashes Eric Roberts lol
When it comes to a show like "Doctor Who" the cheap special effects aren't a big deal to us infact it always had a certain charm to it we didn't mind the bubblewrap monsters or the tinfoil robots "Dr. Who" was always a cult series it's not blockbustery like "Star Trek" or "Star Wars" it's entirely it's own thing it's the stories and characterisations that matter.
syntell how do u edit your videos cause im doing the same thing where ur reacting with ur friend on a call and i jusy need to know how ur doing this?
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he doesn't check the youtube comments to avoid spoilers, because not a single one of his doctor who videos isnt without a ton of them. best bet is to ask him on his discord or his social media
Those are jelly babies four doctor and fifth doctor... And most ever since
Second Doctor also has offered jelly babies
@Logotu yep I remembered after posting