The review was very well done. I work at a shop that sells the CFmoto line and the biggest complaints I've seen are caused by the owners. They buy a reasonably priced machine and then add parts and modify the hell out of them trying to keep up with a high end sport quad owned by their buddy. When a potential customer's first questions include, what's the top speed? and what's the biggest tire I can put on there? I know where we are going! The shifter issues do exist across the entire line and some models are worse then others, but the clutch engagement is my pet peeve since I have to cram as many of these as possible into a storage building every night, and they're covered with plastic panels. Again I applaud your review and most of all, sharing that beautiful spokesmodel with us.
She maintains that this machine is one of the Best Buy’s we’ve ever made. For whatever reason, people seem to judge these machines with little to no first hand experience with them. Everyone picks on the new guy. I remember buying a new Polaris sportsman in the early 90’s and all the trash people talked about them.
@@CameronsonCamera The anti-China sentiment has gotten so politicized that it gets the standard response I've heard over and over. Many poor quality Chinese machines have flooded the market in the past and some remember them only too well. The fact that CFmoto has been around since 1989 says something about their commitment, and their partnership with KTM for building engines for them is outstanding. I haven't been able to pick up a reasonably priced used unit for myself yet, but with a fleet of 3wheelers from the 80's and a half dozen assorted 4wheelers at my property, I'm in no hurry. I did tell a potential customer they were made in Taiwan, and he loved the test ride and made a comment about, I'm glad it's not some "Chinese Junk" you guys are selling! Enough said.
CANT BEAT CFMOTO, THEIR MACHINES ARE QUALITY AND RELIABLE, TOUGH AS NAILS, I LOVE THE TWO THAT I OWN, MY FRIENDS POLARIS BREAKS CONSTANTLY WHILE I KEEP ON RIDING
We are about to purchase a 2021 Zforce 800 ex. Diligently seeking reviews, so far have enjoyed yours with your down to earth honest critique. I at 72 and my wife at 80, are looking forward to all season trail riding and winter Ice fishing. I chose this unit for it's value and seemingly endurance, as we take care and don't abuse any vehicle we own. Looking forward to this new adventure.
Great review and thank you for doing it. They have fixed the brake squealing problem on the 2022. The headlights are still pretty weak, so I need to get a light bar. My doors were also jacked up from the dealer and I had to adjust them to close. Good recommendation on the plate to protect the boot covers. The shifter is still a problem on the new ones. They don't seem worried enough about it to fix that. But I ran mine through the ringer in Moab and it performed very well. Thanks again.
@@CameronsonCamera Also check out "Wandering Jeepsy" on TH-cam. She has some great content on the Moab area. Her name is Sarah and is super nice to talk to. She actually manages an off road themed campground just outside of Moab. I enjoyed staying there and she knows the area well. And if you need a recovery, check out Trail Mater (also on Utube). He can get you out of anything. Best recovery guy in Moab. Unfortunately, I know from experience. lol
Love my 800ex. Far from perfect obviously but a good machine for the money. It has a few little quirks but overall I have been impressed because I've beat the HELL out of it on the trails!
The body looks great not sure what you mean about the headlights they seem perfect! Would like to ride it myself. Great review haven’t seen any much better! I have a CFORCE 500 and really like it!
Excellent video guys!, after watching this I'm gonna pull the plug on one, why do people say side by sides only last 20,000 miles? Surely they can go for more?? they have a motorbike engine don't they? excuse my ignorance I'm a motorbike man living in Ireland, I haven't even ever seen a side by side in Ireland. any help greatly appreciate it
I have the same exact unit. Had the same issue with the seatbelt. I just swapped them out for some racing harness belts. Slightly more annoying when getting in and out or swapping drivers but safer in the long run.
Hi from Oamaru New Zealand. I assemble Can-Am and CFMoto products. CFMoto is perfection from the crate which doesn't need re torquing on most fasteners. The assembly and plastics are perfect. Can Ams are all over the place and need fasteners torqued or titened all over the place. CFMoto is improving really fast. CanAm Defender's has the worst air filter location of air intake and the poorest filter setup of all as they are located in the worst area imagined and prone to have engine dusted due to no safety filter. The gauge cluster goes dead after ex kilometers on clock then requires changing.
Very good review but based on the video title, I was expecting you to be trashing it and regretting your purchase. Seems like it’s been overall very good for you and you probably saved $5000 over the Polaris equivalent.
It’s a bit of an inside joke. When we stop and talk to someone on the trail, one of the first questions we get “are those things any good “? Then at some point they’ll say they know someone who looked at one but thought they would be “junk”.
The brakes squeal is easy to fix just anti-seize the back of the brake pads were they contact the piston and caliper. Brakes work on vibration That will cause brakes to squeal. I serviced my brakes when I first got it. I have 1150 miles on mine put on this year no brake noise.
The razor is a more refined machine but I’m not convinced that it’s worth what they ask for one. Given our experience with this machine so far, I wouldn’t hesitate to buy another one.
With it's quirks and slight annoyances would you purchase something else given the extra 1000's you would have to spend? I have a CForce 1000 Overland and extremely happy with it. Yes it doesn't have 90hp that can am has but I also didn't have to spend another 6k.
If a person is a first timer and not sure if they are going to enjoy the sport, these would be great machines. I would be a bit afraid of a small dealer network for parts and repairs. After market parts and accessories would be very limited. Spending 30K on a new Polaris, CanAm, etc. is a serious decision not to be taken lightly. A new player would be welcome to give the others competition. Competition gives us all a better product in the end.
You have a lot of concerns that I had when we bought ours. We ended up making our own door inserts and windshield ect because nobody made them at the time, but it’s gotten a lot better in the past 2 years as far as accessories. As far as performance mods, your still very limited. That being said, you get a nice machine at a nice price
I'm guessing it depends on where you live. I'm in Nova Scotia and I have one dealership 5 mins from my house, one 30 mins from my house and two 2 hours from my house. It seems that anyone who wants into the atv/sxs market goes with Cfmoto because the other dealers for the top brands are either to expensive or their areas are already claimed.
I haven’t had any issues like that but I’ve heard low or faulty battery can cause problems like that 🤷🏻♂️. As I said I don’t have any firsthand experience with that but I hope you’re back on the trail soon
Squeaky brakes... I have a 2023 Cforce 800 xc with squeaky brakes, LOTS OF ENGINE BRAKING, same as your machine. Are the brakes squeaking on these things because we almost never use them? I've never really hit the rears hard. I don't really use the rear brake much, just so much engine braking.
We never really looked into it. It’s not just a cfmoto quirk, my sister has a Yamaha that has done this since new also. I guess a guy just has to get used to it or turn up the music lol.
My only experience with these is a 16 model but 2 things. One a good to know and another is a caution/hope they fixed it. I found that the air intake you pointed out between the seats when going slow billows hot air into the cabin. This is nice if it's cold but torture when it's hot. A Caution/hope they fixed it: keep a close eye on your oil starting at 1000 miles. I've known several people that have owned these that at that mark they started noticing glitter in their oil. In all cases this was a prelude to engine failure. Some cases it was bad rings and others it was soft cylinder walls that ground down. This was not on modified SXS's and were owned by senior citizens. I can also hope that it was either a bad batch of engines or a faulty design that has been addressed in the last 6 years. Either way there was enough of them to steer me clear when I bought our SXS.
I have a few friends that purchased CF Moto, that was a big mistake they missed more riding than anybody in our group of about 25 machines and we ride weekly. It's too bad that we think we need to buy crap from China because it's cheaper. No brand is perfect buy you get what you pay for.
That’s awesome that you have a committed group of friends that big to ride like that. This is the first cfmoto I’ve owned and with the exception of can am and ktm I’ve owned every other major brand on the market so I’m definitely not a fan boy of cfmoto. In my experience so far with my zforce, it hasn’t been any worse than the other brands I’ve had. I bought a brand new Polaris scrambler 400 that had a complete transmission failure in the first 6 months.
@ gary belanger, I would take a cfmoto over any of the others over priced crap. I've heard a lot of bad things about those others also so I'll save the initial cost and with that savings upgrade things if needed.
I have a cforce 1000 and my buddy I ride with has a can-am 1000r xt two up. He does have more power than me but his machine, despite being very well cared for has already had one rear axel and the rear diff replaced. He was lucky they paid to replace the diff because it was out of its 6 month warranty. My machine hasn't had anything go wrong with it and cost about $3,500 less than his.
Sounds like it needs a lift & taller tires. Ps its nice to hear a female on youtube who isnt a raving lunatical feminist screeching with the sound of a wild boar. So keep up the good content.
Thank you. We definitely need a lift but then we’ll want spacers,wheels and tires and that will require clutching which leads to retuning. It spirals out of control quickly doesn’t it 😂
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Great honest review guys! thanks for sharing 2022 Zforce 950 sport 700km so far and no regrets from Alberta, Canada 🍁
The review was very well done. I work at a shop that sells the CFmoto line and the biggest complaints I've seen are caused by the owners. They buy a reasonably priced machine and then add parts and modify the hell out of them trying to keep up with a high end sport quad owned by their buddy. When a potential customer's first questions include, what's the top speed? and what's the biggest tire I can put on there? I know where we are going! The shifter issues do exist across the entire line and some models are worse then others, but the clutch engagement is my pet peeve since I have to cram as many of these as possible into a storage building every night, and they're covered with plastic panels. Again I applaud your review and most of all, sharing that beautiful spokesmodel with us.
She maintains that this machine is one of the Best Buy’s we’ve ever made. For whatever reason, people seem to judge these machines with little to no first hand experience with them. Everyone picks on the new guy. I remember buying a new Polaris sportsman in the early 90’s and all the trash people talked about them.
@@CameronsonCamera The anti-China sentiment has gotten so politicized that it gets the standard response I've heard over and over. Many poor quality Chinese machines have flooded the market in the past and some remember them only too well. The fact that CFmoto has been around since 1989 says something about their commitment, and their partnership with KTM for building engines for them is outstanding. I haven't been able to pick up a reasonably priced used unit for myself yet, but with a fleet of 3wheelers from the 80's and a half dozen assorted 4wheelers at my property, I'm in no hurry. I did tell a potential customer they were made in Taiwan, and he loved the test ride and made a comment about, I'm glad it's not some "Chinese Junk" you guys are selling! Enough said.
Much thanks for the review! It will help answer some of the minor issues down the road as the miles add up. Overall they're a great machine.
CANT BEAT CFMOTO, THEIR MACHINES ARE QUALITY AND RELIABLE, TOUGH AS NAILS, I LOVE THE TWO THAT I OWN,
MY FRIENDS POLARIS BREAKS CONSTANTLY WHILE I KEEP ON RIDING
We are about to purchase a 2021 Zforce 800 ex. Diligently seeking reviews, so far have enjoyed yours with your down to earth honest critique. I at 72 and my wife at 80, are looking forward to all season trail riding and winter Ice fishing. I chose this unit for it's value and seemingly endurance, as we take care and don't abuse any vehicle we own. Looking forward to this new adventure.
Excellent review! I’m considering buying a z force. Appreciate the honesty.
Initial I thought the undercarriage discoloration, the brownish colour, was rust but I soon realized it was just mud. Great video thanks.
Great review and thank you for doing it. They have fixed the brake squealing problem on the 2022. The headlights are still pretty weak, so I need to get a light bar. My doors were also jacked up from the dealer and I had to adjust them to close. Good recommendation on the plate to protect the boot covers. The shifter is still a problem on the new ones. They don't seem worried enough about it to fix that. But I ran mine through the ringer in Moab and it performed very well.
Thanks again.
It was actually hiking trip at Moab that made us start shopping for sxs’s. I really hope to get there next fall. Any must do trails you enjoyed?
@@CameronsonCamera Absolutely! Give Kane Creek a rip. You guys will love it all. Happy Trails!
@@CameronsonCamera Also check out "Wandering Jeepsy" on TH-cam. She has some great content on the Moab area. Her name is Sarah and is super nice to talk to. She actually manages an off road themed campground just outside of Moab. I enjoyed staying there and she knows the area well. And if you need a recovery, check out Trail Mater (also on Utube). He can get you out of anything. Best recovery guy in Moab. Unfortunately, I know from experience. lol
So they make you buy a sxs 😂😢who can make you buy anything hu sounds like BS @@CameronsonCamera
@@jamesfunk4745 what are you talking about
Love my 800ex. Far from perfect obviously but a good machine for the money. It has a few little quirks but overall I have been impressed because I've beat the HELL out of it on the trails!
Thanks great review, we've got some friends interested in cfmoto and sending them this video. Subbed
The body looks great not sure what you mean about the headlights they seem perfect! Would like to ride it myself. Great review haven’t seen any much better! I have a CFORCE 500 and really like it!
yup
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Were you talking about the SXS or her?😁😉
Excellent video guys!, after watching this I'm gonna pull the plug on one, why do people say side by sides only last 20,000 miles? Surely they can go for more?? they have a motorbike engine don't they? excuse my ignorance I'm a motorbike man living in Ireland, I haven't even ever seen a side by side in Ireland. any help greatly appreciate it
I have the same exact unit. Had the same issue with the seatbelt. I just swapped them out for some racing harness belts. Slightly more annoying when getting in and out or swapping drivers but safer in the long run.
Hi from Oamaru New Zealand.
I assemble Can-Am and CFMoto products. CFMoto is perfection from the crate which doesn't need re torquing on most fasteners. The assembly and plastics are perfect.
Can Ams are all over the place and need fasteners torqued or titened all over the place. CFMoto is improving really fast. CanAm Defender's has the worst air filter location of air intake and the poorest filter setup of all as they are located in the worst area imagined and prone to have engine dusted due to no safety filter.
The gauge cluster goes dead after ex kilometers on clock then requires changing.
Thanks for the review. We just purchased our 2021 CFMoto UForce 1000 in February 2021... The Wife and I are looking at getting a Zforce for more fun.
our UForce we also noticed the breaking noise.
That’s good math. More toys = more fun
How many miles did you put on it in 2 years great video
Very good review but based on the video title, I was expecting you to be trashing it and regretting your purchase. Seems like it’s been overall very good for you and you probably saved $5000 over the Polaris equivalent.
It’s a bit of an inside joke. When we stop and talk to someone on the trail, one of the first questions we get “are those things any good “? Then at some point they’ll say they know someone who looked at one but thought they would be “junk”.
My son has one he loves it 👍☮️
The brakes squeal is easy to fix just anti-seize the back of the brake pads were they contact the piston and caliper. Brakes work on vibration That will cause brakes to squeal. I serviced my brakes when I first got it. I have 1150 miles on mine put on this year no brake noise.
Thanks, Good tip 👍
I have heard about the noise by many reviews. Your solution is the first and makes sense to me, thank you.
great review! would you still consider purchase one these days over the polaris or razor even there is a big difference in price? thanks
The razor is a more refined machine but I’m not convinced that it’s worth what they ask for one. Given our experience with this machine so far, I wouldn’t hesitate to buy another one.
The razors are junk they fall apart fast From front end to motor to frame garbage.
With it's quirks and slight annoyances would you purchase something else given the extra 1000's you would have to spend?
I have a CForce 1000 Overland and extremely happy with it. Yes it doesn't have 90hp that can am has but I also didn't have to spend another 6k.
We think a few squeaks and rattles are a fair trade for the money saved
Excellent review…thanks for sharing
Awesome review, thank you.
If a person is a first timer and not sure if they are going to enjoy the sport, these would be great machines. I would be a bit afraid of a small dealer network for parts and repairs. After market parts and accessories would be very limited. Spending 30K on a new Polaris, CanAm, etc. is a serious decision not to be taken lightly. A new player would be welcome to give the others competition. Competition gives us all a better product in the end.
You have a lot of concerns that I had when we bought ours. We ended up making our own door inserts and windshield ect because nobody made them at the time, but it’s gotten a lot better in the past 2 years as far as accessories. As far as performance mods, your still very limited. That being said, you get a nice machine at a nice price
@@CameronsonCamera nowadays price is major for sure.
I'm guessing it depends on where you live. I'm in Nova Scotia and I have one dealership 5 mins from my house, one 30 mins from my house and two 2 hours from my house. It seems that anyone who wants into the atv/sxs market goes with Cfmoto because the other dealers for the top brands are either to expensive or their areas are already claimed.
Man idk. Mine keeps dying. The efi fault flashed and now the oil pressure light flashes. Oil is full and clean🤷🏻♂️
I haven’t had any issues like that but I’ve heard low or faulty battery can cause problems like that 🤷🏻♂️. As I said I don’t have any firsthand experience with that but I hope you’re back on the trail soon
Squeaky brakes... I have a 2023 Cforce 800 xc with squeaky brakes, LOTS OF ENGINE BRAKING, same as your machine. Are the brakes squeaking on these things because we almost never use them? I've never really hit the rears hard. I don't really use the rear brake much, just so much engine braking.
We never really looked into it. It’s not just a cfmoto quirk, my sister has a Yamaha that has done this since new also. I guess a guy just has to get used to it or turn up the music lol.
My only experience with these is a 16 model but 2 things. One a good to know and another is a caution/hope they fixed it.
I found that the air intake you pointed out between the seats when going slow billows hot air into the cabin. This is nice if it's cold but torture when it's hot.
A Caution/hope they fixed it: keep a close eye on your oil starting at 1000 miles. I've known several people that have owned these that at that mark they started noticing glitter in their oil. In all cases this was a prelude to engine failure. Some cases it was bad rings and others it was soft cylinder walls that ground down. This was not on modified SXS's and were owned by senior citizens. I can also hope that it was either a bad batch of engines or a faulty design that has been addressed in the last 6 years. Either way there was enough of them to steer me clear when I bought our SXS.
Something you keep an eye on.
Thanks
I have had my 2021 ,500 , I dont beat the shit out of it works great for me. Not a side by side saying CF makes a good machine for the price .
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good review info. n she ROCKS!!!!!!!!
stacked!
Do you ever check or ajust valves like they ask yuopu to?
We’ve never checked ours but it’s on the list to do
Is this a 2020 or 2021 model?
Ours is a 2020
Hello, Are you interested in testing products? We would like to invite you to test the front windshield for your cfmoto zforce 800 ex
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Did i see a dodge Daytona in the into montage
Mustang, but it does have a big wing
Awesome machine! Nice video
Thank you
Is the shifter easy ?
It’s gotten way better with time and usage
Nice honest review. What year is your machine?
Ours is a 2020
Great review
Love my CFMOTO 600
What's the price range for it
We bought ours in 2020. I think it was a little under $12,000?
The price before any options of the US 2022 ZForce 800EX is $12,200 and has a one year factory warranty.
Great review
Thank you
mmmm,so cute,luv your vids!!
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I have a few friends that purchased CF Moto, that was a big mistake they missed more riding than anybody in our group of about 25 machines and we ride weekly. It's too bad that we think we need to buy crap from China because it's cheaper. No brand is perfect buy you get what you pay for.
That’s awesome that you have a committed group of friends that big to ride like that. This is the first cfmoto I’ve owned and with the exception of can am and ktm I’ve owned every other major brand on the market so I’m definitely not a fan boy of cfmoto. In my experience so far with my zforce, it hasn’t been any worse than the other brands I’ve had. I bought a brand new Polaris scrambler 400 that had a complete transmission failure in the first 6 months.
@ gary belanger, I would take a cfmoto over any of the others over priced crap. I've heard a lot of bad things about those others also so I'll save the initial cost and with that savings upgrade things if needed.
Stfu you probably don’t even have anything to ride
I have a cforce 1000 and my buddy I ride with has a can-am 1000r xt two up. He does have more power than me but his machine, despite being very well cared for has already had one rear axel and the rear diff replaced. He was lucky they paid to replace the diff because it was out of its 6 month warranty. My machine hasn't had anything go wrong with it and cost about $3,500 less than his.
Sounds like it needs a lift & taller tires. Ps its nice to hear a female on youtube who isnt a raving lunatical feminist screeching with the sound of a wild boar. So keep up the good content.
Thank you. We definitely need a lift but then we’ll want spacers,wheels and tires and that will require clutching which leads to retuning. It spirals out of control quickly doesn’t it 😂
@@CameronsonCamera entirely too quickly lol such is life though.
DAT RACK.😉
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Man that must be embarrassing to ride 🤦
JUNK GOT IT RIDE IT JUNK IT
Great review. Thank you.