A mate of mine is lending me his wheel with one of these. I'd never ridden a coaster before, and ive seen how much slack others have and it's always kinda scared me. These are amazing, it feels just like a cassette, till you wanna fakie. Nearly no slack at all.
I got my BSD Revolution wheel the other week, and I have to say, the hype is REAL. Only thing more that I would've wanted from it would've been a female axle option, but regardless, it still rendered every other freecoaster almost instantly obsolete.
Great post! 👍 I completely agree with this. Doesn't having a female axle work best for riders that slam their wheel in the dropouts so they don't have to break their chain to service the back wheel? (That's a nightmare in itself for some riders) Plus having dropouts with a integrated chain tensioner through the dropouts can cause pinching threads on the hub axle itself. Ride more, work on your bike less.
It wouldn't work as a female axle because of the amount of pressure the driver needs to actually work like he explained in the video. With females axles there's no way to tighten the outside cone so it simply wouldn't be tight enough for the mechanism to work
Ive had mine for about a year and a half with no trouble until recently. Im having engagement issues so I changed back to my cassette, but now I see you have this video Im gonna try to repair it myself before bringing it to the bike shop. If anyone has any advice it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much for making these videos. ;)
@brant_moore has a video all about planetary freecoaster maintenance but if i remember off the top of my head i think that your issue is most likely because your jam nuts arent tight enough or your planetary isnt sitting in its grooves correctly. try tightening up your jam nuts really tight with a wrench and the allen hole.
@@nightriderbmxshop6768 I was able to take it apart and get it working again. I got caught in a downpour and water got into it and evidently enough water remained to make it engagement an issue. Once I dried and cleaned the internals it worked like new again.
No springs inside the clutch. All just gears... At least that is how the original is. There is actually a rubber o-ring inside the clutch that causes friction when going forward and that is what causes the clutch to engage and raise the driver pawls.
@@sole__doubt the OG freenight was pretty easy to replace the o-ring. I have been running my BSD for a year now and haven't had any issues so I haven't needed to do anything yet.
@@MiddleAgeBMX i got caught in the rain a few weeks ago and after that I had engagement issues. Im having trouble getting the jam nuts off, they are really on there tight. Im gonna get me a bigger crescent wrench hopefully that helps. If not , Im bringing it to the shop
Sick hub!! It’s the game changer!! Everyone get one! Just buy a whole revolution wheel and have it in your inventory to swap over for a change and who knows you may not go back to your usual cassette :-)
Gotta admit. This is pretty dope. Probably the only freecoaster I might try. Happy thanksgiving to my US folks. Alf u gotta ride this and give a review.
i love this guys reviews. I could have him review a 6 day old cheesecake. LMAO for the "help me help yuh" CKY2K call back. Thats how i know Phu Vu is a real one.
Dude, love these tech Tuesdays, I've learned so much by watching these its insane. Wish I would have watched these before I bought my Fitbikeco TRL from the asshole at my local bike shop, I'm 5'8 on a TRL XXL...no worry Ill just get good on this boi and get a better bike from ya'll next year sometime.
It’s all good man, he might not have been trying to be a dick, and the didn’t know the difference himself, but to be honest it’s only about 1/25th of an inch so you can learn on it and then swap the frame out for something you’ll like better
@@maxpotter7711 I was just thinking the same thing, like I’m a beginner on a cassette now and want to upgrade to a free coaster and I was thinking like is this cheating? But then I realized this is the next level of innovation and all free coasters will basically function like this soon.
Ull only bust your knee if your being dum I've rode free coaster on and off for 5 yrs and never busted my knee only almost went over my bars but learning to ditch fall is part of bmx and keeping the fact ur on a free coaster make shure u pedal so no slack is in the hub
Clutch V2 Gang. I lowkey like doing the back pedal but this hub is cool. If you dont have to do any maintenance like a cassette I would buy it for sure
Yeah I just went back to my madera cassette back wheel and the first thing I thought was how loud I was. I cant sneak up on the cats in the neighborhood anymore. ;)
I just got back into riding and got a bike with an fc and its been a weird transition but im getting the hang of it. My only question is can I still do a brakeless tire tap on a quarter and hold the pressure like i could with a cassette?
I been picking up these bikes, well it started with the free stuff app I went and picked up a bike turned out to be a old hot wheels GT bmx 20 inch I sold it for 400 to a guy by chance I didn't know. Now I have 3 of these Fitbikeco bikes that were free is this something I should keep trying to do?
the zcoaster has to be disengaged, don’t quote me but i believe it’s heavier and while the z coaster is still engaged and you go backwards the petals move back and it allows you to do tire taps and 270 taps , a 270 tap has been done with this hub design (brakeless of course with petal pressure of course) but it’s not consistent enough to count , brant moore did a video on this with trevor
@Stickt more coming soon, also worldwide distros and shops will be receiving stock over the next month or so. Covid has caused to many shipping delays!!
Hey alf. Great vid. Have you done or could you do a vid on what causes hubs to slip. I have pulled my hub apart a few times and tried to fix it from slipping. It all looks good to my untrained eye so id love some real advice before i buy parts that i may not need. Cheers bro
So when i take the axle out. The rear sprocket/driver has teeth around it and the paws that engage to the teeth are inside the hub. If that makes sense. As apposed to the paws being attached to the rear sprocket/driver and the teeth inside the hub
@@doriking275 ok got ya, if its slipping, either the teeth on the driver have worn down and lost their "edge" or the pawls have worn down, if you can get access to the springs under the pawls then bend them up slightly to create more tension on the pawls and teeth, that will reduce the slipping problem, failing that replace the pawls in the hub, but if the teeth on the driver have worn down then you either need to replace the driver or get a new hub, most of the time just bending the springs up slightly and creating more tension fixes the problem
yeah the guys at bsd put a lot of thinking into this but honestly like 99% of people riding do that backpedal automatically even with a casette if u want a freecoaster just get one, get used to the slack and then u got the same thing and u can play around with the slack while riding which is fun too Cool concept but in my opinion a waste of time
Who the hell invented these things? Is it from professional bike racing/track/dome or? Who even thinks about a clutch on a BMX. Cassette or coaster. But there are some smart Gurus around.
I rather trust the WTP Hybrid coaster than this one. The wtp is way simpler and doesn’t require any gears and fancy mechanisms. It’s a 100 bucks cheaper as well
Because running low slack means pedalling a bit forward will engage the hub. This hub basically has unlimited slack when going backwards. You can pedal forward while going backwards with this this as long as you don't pedal too fast. If you pedal forward faster than the gearing is spinning bringing the pawls down then it will engage. It is based off the Freenight Planetary freecoaster and I have been running a prototype for almost two years and it really is game changing.
@@cameronholcomb6578 it takes a bit getting used to it I found but I can't ride anything else now. Pretty much the faster you go fakie the less you have to worry about it engaging. It's just the initial going forward to fakie that has a possibility of making it engage and that's if you somehow engage the the pawls while going into the fakie which is pretty hard to do.
He means gaining HP at the wheels. And he’s right. Not loosing HP at the flywheel = gaining HP at the wheels. Where it counts. Just ask the Duke boys !
really, have you had any issues? ive done some searching around and it all seems to be user error on the most part, you just have to make sure you have everything in the right spot done up tight
HAPPY THANKSGIVING GUYS!!
So glad you did a video on this! Also happy thanksgiving Alf!
Thanks alf means alot happy Thanksgiving from my family to yours.
Thanks for everything and happy thanksgiving to you I’ll
Send you some turkey😂😂
i love epic bmx i went ther couple days ago
Thank you Alf for teaching him how to pronounce the cassette)
A mate of mine is lending me his wheel with one of these. I'd never ridden a coaster before, and ive seen how much slack others have and it's always kinda scared me. These are amazing, it feels just like a cassette, till you wanna fakie. Nearly no slack at all.
I got my BSD Revolution wheel the other week, and I have to say, the hype is REAL. Only thing more that I would've wanted from it would've been a female axle option, but regardless, it still rendered every other freecoaster almost instantly obsolete.
Great post! 👍
I completely agree with this.
Doesn't having a female axle work best for riders that slam their wheel in the dropouts so they don't have to break their chain to service the back wheel? (That's a nightmare in itself for some riders)
Plus having dropouts with a integrated chain tensioner through the dropouts can cause pinching threads on the hub axle itself.
Ride more, work on your bike less.
It wouldn't work as a female axle because of the amount of pressure the driver needs to actually work like he explained in the video. With females axles there's no way to tighten the outside cone so it simply wouldn't be tight enough for the mechanism to work
@@Mish2353 please elaborate??
@@Mish2353 there are female axles from BSD for it aftermarket
I love tech thursday
Stoked you dig them!
Sameeee
Ive had mine for about a year and a half with no trouble until recently. Im having engagement issues so I changed back to my cassette, but now I see you have this video Im gonna try to repair it myself before bringing it to the bike shop. If anyone has any advice it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much for making these videos. ;)
@brant_moore has a video all about planetary freecoaster maintenance but if i remember off the top of my head i think that your issue is most likely because your jam nuts arent tight enough or your planetary isnt sitting in its grooves correctly. try tightening up your jam nuts really tight with a wrench and the allen hole.
@@williambodger551 actually the jam nuts were put on so tight by whoever assembled the wheel that I cant take the hub apart.
Its most likely time to replace the O-ring inside the clutch. Please contact us (freenight) if you need any help.
@@nightriderbmxshop6768 I was able to take it apart and get it working again. I got caught in a downpour and water got into it and evidently enough water remained to make it engagement an issue. Once I dried and cleaned the internals it worked like new again.
@@sole__doubt excellent!
Eastern Ezra hubs had the same mechanism for converting the cassette to a free coaster. Planetary went beyond and made a new clutch system.
the eastern ezra is so under represented i feel like no one knows about it but it was one of the pioneering freecoasters
I love my Free Night!
No springs inside the clutch. All just gears... At least that is how the original is. There is actually a rubber o-ring inside the clutch that causes friction when going forward and that is what causes the clutch to engage and raise the driver pawls.
You're right!
i think that o-ring is why mine is having engagement issues.
@@sole__doubt the OG freenight was pretty easy to replace the o-ring. I have been running my BSD for a year now and haven't had any issues so I haven't needed to do anything yet.
@@MiddleAgeBMX i got caught in the rain a few weeks ago and after that I had engagement issues. Im having trouble getting the jam nuts off, they are really on there tight. Im gonna get me a bigger crescent wrench hopefully that helps. If not , Im bringing it to the shop
thanks alf for this review. and happy thanks giving ya'll
Happy thanksgiving my dude! Glad you liked the review!
Sick hub!! It’s the game changer!! Everyone get one! Just buy a whole revolution wheel and have it in your inventory to swap over for a change and who knows you may not go back to your usual cassette :-)
Gotta admit. This is pretty dope. Probably the only freecoaster I might try. Happy thanksgiving to my US folks. Alf u gotta ride this and give a review.
Try the profile z coaster you'll love it and never need another hub again
love the in depth information and differences about that hubs. Ride safe , and also prayers for your brother alf 🙏
Thanks for the support my dude
Got a new internals freenight on my way to me. Hope to get it laced up and on the General in the next week or two. Yew!
Yeeeewwww 🥂🥂🥂
This guy is the ultimate bike shop dude
Now that’s an amazing hub might have to cop it.
Sick video Alfredo. Happy Thanksgiving ✊✊✊
Thanks Raf! Happy thanksgiving
Bro that BSD hub is going to change the whole game ! Dope ! , happy ThanksGiving Alf
i love this guys reviews. I could have him review a 6 day old cheesecake.
LMAO for the "help me help yuh" CKY2K call back. Thats how i know Phu Vu is a real one.
I was lucky enough to hey a RHD one I love it
Dude, love these tech Tuesdays, I've learned so much by watching these its insane. Wish I would have watched these before I bought my Fitbikeco TRL from the asshole at my local bike shop, I'm 5'8 on a TRL XXL...no worry Ill just get good on this boi and get a better bike from ya'll next year sometime.
It’s all good man, he might not have been trying to be a dick, and the didn’t know the difference himself, but to be honest it’s only about 1/25th of an inch so you can learn on it and then swap the frame out for something you’ll like better
finalllyyy the bsd coaster
Solid. Would love to try that hub someday. I hate freecoaster slack.
It’s the future!
Happy Thanksgiving bro!
This freecoaster is going to save a lot of busted knees. Learning on an old school freecoaster was brutal.
Been on free coaster for like 3 weeks absolutely love it havnt smashed my knee once
Can't wait til the day normal free coasters r a thing of the past and everyone will be on one of these
@@maxpotter7711 I was just thinking the same thing, like I’m a beginner on a cassette now and want to upgrade to a free coaster and I was thinking like is this cheating? But then I realized this is the next level of innovation and all free coasters will basically function like this soon.
I gave my freecoaster wheel away to some kid who could ride it better than me.💀😂
Ull only bust your knee if your being dum I've rode free coaster on and off for 5 yrs and never busted my knee only almost went over my bars but learning to ditch fall is part of bmx and keeping the fact ur on a free coaster make shure u pedal so no slack is in the hub
Mines getting laced up at the moment. Cant wait to ride it!
you can tell when Phu is happy cause he makes horny jokes. I love these vids
Hahaha you’re so right!
Clutch V2 Gang. I lowkey like doing the back pedal but this hub is cool. If you dont have to do any maintenance like a cassette I would buy it for sure
Solid choice!
Great vid man
Much appreciated 🤓
@@AlfredoMancuso yeah nice talking to you again idk if you remember me from the other vid
12:52 by Hephestus..
I'm intrigued to see how the female version works if the pressure provided by the cone nut is so integral to the hub working.
Coming real soon!
The later versions have inner o-rings to keep the spacer fixed on the axle, so less pressure is needed from the cone nut.
Tossing one on in the future?
I’m going to try one out for sure!
🔥🔥🔥luv these vids man🔥🔥🔥
I don't know why but I LOVE the smooth sweet silence of me Odyssey V2. Am I wrong for this?
Yeah I just went back to my madera cassette back wheel and the first thing I thought was how loud I was. I cant sneak up on the cats in the neighborhood anymore. ;)
When he said "help me help you" I heard it in Brandon DiCamillo's voice
Very amazing revolutionary I wish could buy it someday🔥🔥🔥🔥
Show the axle conversion, please! I need this exact thing with the config you were showing. Sell them as a package online!
Happening soon!
I just got back into riding and got a bike with an fc and its been a weird transition but im getting the hang of it. My only question is can I still do a brakeless tire tap on a quarter and hold the pressure like i could with a cassette?
I haven’t ridden one yet, but I don’t believe so. I can confirm in a few weeks
you should hit up those water jet guys ... so interesting thanks you guys
Is there a shim washer between the clutch and the hub bearings ?
I been picking up these bikes, well it started with the free stuff app I went and picked up a bike turned out to be a old hot wheels GT bmx 20 inch I sold it for 400 to a guy by chance I didn't know. Now I have 3 of these Fitbikeco bikes that were free is this something I should keep trying to do?
Hey can you do another video showing which parts to grease?
Definitely!
@@AlfredoMancuso thank you all the way from STL!
Recent subscriber, recent Phu fan!
Very helpful 🤟
This needs a 16 tooth driver option.
Started riding again after quitting 20 years ago... man oh man i got a lot of catching up to do... 😳
Wow that's now the a freecoster
We think it might be the best!
Isn’t just a zcoster that profile makes
Similar but different mechanisms
@@AlfredoMancuso ohh ok
the zcoaster has to be disengaged, don’t quote me but i believe it’s heavier and while the z coaster is still engaged and you go backwards the petals move back and it allows you to do tire taps and 270 taps , a 270 tap has been done with this hub design (brakeless of course with petal pressure of course) but it’s not consistent enough to count , brant moore did a video on this with trevor
Can I ask, crankflip on revolution hub is more like cassete or freeco ? Thanks !
Oh yeah you can crankflip it just like on a cassette.
So it’s cassette but you don’t have to pedal backwards?
Correct
Is my rim done? 😂 nice video
Lol I don’t build them but Ethan might have finished it for you
@@AlfredoMancuso I’m was just messing man but thanks man I appreciate you man happy thanksgiving 🍁
Great video!!!!!!
Hey man, what's the dimensions on this? Trying to figure out spoke size but most calculators need more info than bsd tells me.
Alf will there be a oss store in la in the near future?
No clue. I’m not with OSS
Thats a sick ass hub
RIP diego armando maradona
🙏🏻😔
My Geisha will occasionally catch and the pedals will move when rolling backward. Is there any free coaster that doesn’t have that issue?
You maybe have to increase the slack to get rid of this problem, alf made a tutorial on that, go check that out
You just have to increase the gap in your hub
Alfredo Mancuso thanks Alfredo
Quick question Alfredo are these available to buy yet?
@Stickt more coming soon, also worldwide distros and shops will be receiving stock over the next month or so. Covid has caused to many shipping delays!!
Does epic bmx have a website to buy from
Not at the moment
Is it the same as the nankai freecoasters ??
Hey alf. Great vid. Have you done or could you do a vid on what causes hubs to slip. I have pulled my hub apart a few times and tried to fix it from slipping. It all looks good to my untrained eye so id love some real advice before i buy parts that i may not need. Cheers bro
Is it a cassette or freecoaster?
@@macaulleyjordan1603 its a cassette with the paws in the rim and the teeth on the driver
@@doriking275 paws in the rim? Do you mean it's got the grooves inside the hub and then on the driver are pawls, and springs underneath them?
So when i take the axle out. The rear sprocket/driver has teeth around it and the paws that engage to the teeth are inside the hub. If that makes sense. As apposed to the paws being attached to the rear sprocket/driver and the teeth inside the hub
@@doriking275 ok got ya, if its slipping, either the teeth on the driver have worn down and lost their "edge" or the pawls have worn down, if you can get access to the springs under the pawls then bend them up slightly to create more tension on the pawls and teeth, that will reduce the slipping problem, failing that replace the pawls in the hub, but if the teeth on the driver have worn down then you either need to replace the driver or get a new hub, most of the time just bending the springs up slightly and creating more tension fixes the problem
Catset gang!!
New gear 😂
that catset thing HAHAHAHAAHAH lmao
💜😂
Awsome! TT
Can I order the new BSD coaster from your shop ?
BSD take my money 💰.
Dropped it, I thought you were serious fuck Holmes springs everywhere 🤣
Was that a cky2k reference at the end lol.. That hub is really cool, if I ever switch to a freecoaster that'll be the one..
Spot on!
I want one, and I wanna see that fig Newton in half 🥳
What is the benefit of female axle
Lighter weight, lower profile, cleaner look
2:38 what did Ethan say?
“he wants to know what’s good with slim seats”
Yo the only reason I got into bmx is because of Alfredo
Is this somewhat similar to the zcoasters
Not at all
Does anyone know when the giveaway is
Does anyone here have an issue with revolution hub squeaking? Any suggestion to solving this issue?
Gotta say though, more parts is just more chances to fail. I hope they sell a replacement clutch.
Yea you’re exactly right! More parts means less reliability. Which is why I’m go to swap my car for a horse n cart. Wait. No I’m not.
yeah the guys at bsd put a lot of thinking into this but honestly like 99% of people riding do that backpedal automatically even with a casette if u want a freecoaster just get one, get used to the slack and then u got the same thing and u can play around with the slack while riding which is fun too
Cool concept but in my opinion a waste of time
I'm a mechanic, I can tell they are well made? But how do you know how much or should I just shoot em to the youngsters around the neighborhood
Did he say “chocolate center”??
🔥🔥🔥
Who the hell invented these things? Is it from professional bike racing/track/dome or? Who even thinks about a clutch on a BMX. Cassette or coaster. But there are some smart Gurus around.
Thank you :) it was a rare combination of a gifted engineer with bmx tech lover (me), team work!
👏👏👏
🙏🏻
Phu Just changes tubes😔
Can he ride as well as he fixes bikes?
I Love this guy he's funny hahha hi mr. Alf i already tagged you in my IG
Is this similar to the Profile hub?
Arguably it’s better
@@AlfredoMancuso only time will tell that. Similar design is what I meant.
One way bearing like an rc car
I rather trust the WTP Hybrid coaster than this one. The wtp is way simpler and doesn’t require any gears and fancy mechanisms. It’s a 100 bucks cheaper as well
it tends to have more slack tho but i understand you completely, they all work basicly the same so why the price difference?
Yeeeee
Sup mangggg!
😲😲👏👏👏👏
Good
Im planning to come down to epic and buy a bike after Christmas
Go ahead mahn! Cut it up. Show them asians aren’t cheap😂
Lmaooo
How is this different than just running low slack in a free coaster?
Because running low slack means pedalling a bit forward will engage the hub.
This hub basically has unlimited slack when going backwards.
You can pedal forward while going backwards with this this as long as you don't pedal too fast.
If you pedal forward faster than the gearing is spinning bringing the pawls down then it will engage.
It is based off the Freenight Planetary freecoaster and I have been running a prototype for almost two years and it really is game changing.
@@_tcmore oh wow ok definitely just improved my opinion on this hub🙌🙌
@@cameronholcomb6578 it takes a bit getting used to it I found but I can't ride anything else now. Pretty much the faster you go fakie the less you have to worry about it engaging. It's just the initial going forward to fakie that has a possibility of making it engage and that's if you somehow engage the the pawls while going into the fakie which is pretty hard to do.
@@_tcmore definitely have to check it out some day
✝️💯😎
The bigger the click the better the ride
First. Sorry phu a good clutch wont gain horsepower but it will help to not loose horsepower. But I get where your coming from
You tell him! haha
He means gaining HP at the wheels. And he’s right. Not loosing HP at the flywheel = gaining HP at the wheels. Where it counts. Just ask the Duke boys !
Unison
Hi im from philipines can you give mo a bike for chrismas thankyou more power
Casssette fetish
These hubs are nice but they break so easily
really, have you had any issues? ive done some searching around and it all seems to be user error on the most part, you just have to make sure you have everything in the right spot done up tight
@@williambodger551 yes, and cleaning the extra lube also helps because the lube reduces friction, and that can cause engagemeny issues...
damn it second
xD love your vids alfredo
Really means a lot