I love the way y’all were perfectly convinced the Defense should have any witnesses phones they wanted but the witnesses to Read’s statements, confessions & admissions to Daddy & Mommy you’re outraged by.
@@cateellington6653 the defense should have been entitled to everybody’s phone that was inside of the Albert home so they could’ve done Geo fencing, which would’ve showed where each and every person was including when John ended up in the front yard
@@cateellington6653I’m pretty sure we are all comfortable with them giving their phones and taking stand. It’s on going joke for us because it goes back to when defense wanted witnesses phones the judge denied it every time and they took it to SJC and won and got them so if she allows prosecution to happily have the reads it’s just another box checked why people feel the way we do.
Even if there was a 1:30 am phone call (which was made up) it wouldn't explain Jen McCabes 2:27 am google search of hos long to die in the cold. Brennan is not that intelligent!
@@lisamcclendon2720 2/3 of the charges, the jury concluded 'not guilty'. Just going to remind you that two of the witnesses at a party went to a military base to destroy their phones, only hours before they were given papers that required them to turn their phones over. There is no question that they were hiding evidence about what happened. There is literally no other conclusion besides they are covering up what happened that night.
Anyone else notice how Bev allowed everyone else to speak their piece without interrupting? Yanetti (or anyone for the defence) gets up and she constantly cuts him off before he finishes. It infuriates me and is so obvious she is biased just from this behaviour 😡😡
Judge Bev has been named as the permanent judge for this case (special assignment) by the chief Justice. I don't know why it was done, but that will make it difficult to remove her without an undeniable reason. They even removed her from another high-profile case to make sure she can focus on the Read case. It's corruption at its finest.
But I want trooper Paul to testify again. I have this problem with my physics engine. It cannot calculate p=mv when I'm dealing with black Lexus SUVs. I believe trooper Paul could help me with that.
Itll definitely show prejudice though if she allows the phone records when she denied the defense from getting prosecution witness phone data. Lots of buttdials there
@@amherstanne1219 I have watched a load of trials with Peter and Emily D. I not has happy with the legal profession as they seem to be so I try not to get into it in the channel unless its really bad. Hannah reeds prosecutor, Lally this judge, court house Beky I think are the tip of a rotten iceberg
First of all, I’m 81 years old, and I’m up at all hours. A good night sleep has become an elusive dream for me. I am not usually a snarky person, but I have to say that just hearing that judges voice set my teeth on edge.
Just remembered the fact that aunt Bev wasn’t supposed to even be on this trial but forced her way onto it and that is still so shocking to me. While still pale in comparison to all the other shockers in this case of course 😂
@@DaveReece-u4b No, Cannone was the original Judge assigned this case. After the mistrial, Judge Cannone was promoted to a superior courts spot, but because she originally oversaw this trial, she still has to be the judge for the retrial. Why do you people lie about and slander this judge so much?
I have to keep rewinding because I get wrapped up in reading the comments. They are as good as the content !!! Everyone is so smart and has such valid points !!!!
@@utter007 haha! Me too! Fun! I learn so much from other viewers. This case has so many layers. I learned the intricacies from other viewers. Praying for Karen. Praying for these criminal McAlberts to get theirs. What a rotten lot.
Something I found very interesting is how Judge Cannone told Ms Little that this is a new trial when she was arguing a motion. Then she told the other defense lawyer that she left that motion open for them in the last trial in another motion argument. I’m confused is this a new trial or a continued trial.
@@Babyd320Don’t understand why witnesses were blamed, they only butt dialled , with face recognition phones. I’ll let you ponder on that one. Ringing one another about who said what to the police, who told the police everything. hos to die search before John was found, making police statements together in each others houses. had to be reminded by Lally what they said in their statements , Oh the list goes on, and on and on and on. , I also think the witnesses are in the Guinness book of records aren’t they? For the most times I Don’t recall was said. On a witness stand.
They're trying to prove that she thought she hit him or hit something but still doesn't matter. You can think you hit something or someone but if the facts are not there then its bull. This whole case is bull
In her own interview, she tells a different story. Always wondered why that evidence was not included in the first trial. It comes right from her mouth, and her father's mouth. She thought she hit something.
When you say "THEY PROVED" he wasn't hit by a car you say that because you believe Defense experts regarding their testimony about the injuries. The prosecution did prove that John O'Keefe was not only struck by a car but by Read's SUV. The evidence: her SUV tail light pieces found where John O'Keefe was found., DNA and hair from JO found on her SUV bumper and tail light, micro fragments of the tail light in his clothing, his cellphone GPS stopped updating new locations shortly before Read's cell phone connected to the O'Keefe home WIFI. The proof she was drunk when she did it: her BAC was STILL above the legal limit hours after she hit him with her SUV and left him to freeze. The evidence that proves her intent: Her angry voice mails, her attempts to call her parents at 1am, her NOT calling 911 EVER, he statement to Kerry Roberts at 5am that John was de@d and may have been hit by a plow before his body was found.
I can’t even remember the state’s witness’ name that didn’t know several words about physics when Jackson was questioning him. 😂😂 it was comical to say the least. He had no clue the word kinetics 😂😂
I think KR may have thought she hit John when she found him dead the next day but i don’t think she hit him intentionally or left him dying at the scene the night before. The problem here is KR was drunk and she doesn’t really remember the previous night. The physics, as you say, closes the case. It should give her peace as well as exonerate her. I hope she is found not guilty and gives up drinking. Her life will be the better for it.
@@leslie4551 she went back to Fairview before calling his friends that morning .. she saw him and didn’t call 911 .. regardless of intent it’s at least manslaughter and operating under the influence..: yet she is still over the the internet at parties with drinks in her hand .. yes most likely not driving but still not the best look
RE: KR's call to her parents at 1:30 a.m. -- It's clear to me, based on the other calls KR made that night, that she was distraught about being at OJO's alone with his niece and nephew. She wanted to go home to her own house, but didn't know what to do about the children. If I were in KR's shoes, I would have absolutely called my mother to see if it was okay to leave the children alone.
How do you know this lol she needed to call her mom and dad to see if she could leave her boyfriends kids? If she wants that to be her story, she needs to go on the stand and say that. That's the only way to get her version in. Her dad said nothing about her calling them to see if she could leave kids. He would know more than anyone what she wanted.
Yeah, the 40 something year old woman who returned to the house after midnight tried to call her 70ish parents after 1am to "get permission" to leave the house where a 16 year old girl (the nephew was not there) had been home alone up to midnight? Ok, I now know that FKR fanatics lost any common sense most people are born with.
@robinroe8559 This isn't a teenager babysitting, this is a grown woman. If she is still asking Mommy and Daddy what any grown person should know to do, then she has more issues than I thought she might.
@@lisamcclendon2720In the 30 days prior , John didn’t fail to come home, the fact she called her parents the only night John didn’t return is THE ENTIRE POINT
Bev refused to let the defense have the phone records of all the witnesses from the scene that night. But, prosecution wants her to give them the records of dad who wasn't at the scene. Her ruling should be interesting.
Plus, where's the logic? Karen's 1:30am call to her mom was more likely a butt-dial than anything else. If Brennan's theory was correct, and she panicked after "hitting someone with her car," there would've been more than 1, isolated, call...right? Let's see how common it was for the 2 Brians to "butt-dial" each other after 2am, because the fact they never called each other before could really lend credibility to the Defense's theory, right Mr. Brennan?
So you think his dna and hair on her bumper isn’t evidence? Her tail light in his clothes . Her tail light in the place where his phone stops moving ? His glass in the bumper ? How is that not evidence? She knew where his body was because she knew she hit him there .. she went back to Fairview and didn’t call 911 .. the car data will prove this
I guess pieces of her taillight being found not just around but also imbedded in John O’Keefe’s clothing isn’t evidence. But because her PR campaign says it’s planted must make it so. I guess the 10+ officers who were presented when the taillight was recovered the day the body was found are all lying … along with the other 30+ witnesses.
Calling Karens father to the stand could well back fire. I think he would be great on the stand but not for the prosecution 🤭 My children, 50, 47 and 43 know that they always can call me if necessary.And they do. From Holland 🇳🇱
The CW in the first trial had no idea if Mr Read would lie on the stand. Since he was seen on video, along with her brother, looking at the tail light of the SUV and did not testify for the Defense in the first trial, you can assume he is not willing to lie. The new Prosecutor, armed with the information, definitely feels more comfortable in putting Mr Read on the stand.
@@nelsona8285 The CW will only help the defense if they call Mr Read. The CW doesn’t really want Mr Read to testify. They want him on the witness list so they can sequester him.
She was pissed off and wanted to vent! Or maybe she was calling to say she was driving there to stay. Who lived closer to John home. Karen or her parents?
She didn't TALK to them at 1am. She called them at 1am and no one answered. The CW wants to get phone records for 30 days to see if she had a pattern of these types of late night calls. If there is no previous pattern, this would be VERY odd to call unless there was a serious emergency, like hitting your boyfriend with your SUV, while drunk and angry, and leaving him to freeze in the snow.
@@nelsona8285 or maybe she's fighting with her boyfriend and wants to know from her parents if it's okay to leave John's neice home alone, so she herself could go back to her own home before the storm. John was supposed to wave her into the house, she thought he blew her off. She was pissed and didn't wanna stay at his house. I would have called my parents too.
@@justkim9827 So instead of driving back to the house and pounding on the door to drag him out and tell him directly that she was going home (his niece was about 16 yoa at the time and alone when Read arrived after midnight) this 40 something year old tried to call her parents that look to be in their 70s at 1am to ask if it is ok to leave John''s house? Now I know why the FKR fanatics have no common sense.
I'm getting to the point where I can barely stand to watch these hearings because the injustice is so blood boiling, and then I realized - that's what judge Cannone wants. For all the attention to go away so she can be corrupt in private
I think you’ve hit the nail on the head re the prosecution’s potential strategy Peter. They will discredit her with inconsistencies and character‘deficiencies’ in an attempt to to persuade the jury to ignore the horrendous investigation, Arca experts, dog bite expert etc… Holding out for a just an unbiased jury willing to focus on the hard evidence and testimony from experts. Thanking you for this analysis!😊🙏
They are attempting to minipulate her words. There are two doors on the front of the house, and one is the main front door. The other door is what she called the side door, and it is also a front door as well. They are grasping at straws, different terminology, meaning the same!
@ no because she said in another interview that she didn’t see him go to the door and she wasn’t sure if she could have clipped him . Let’s remember each door to the front of the house leads to a party of 10-12 people .. both doors and not 1 person saw him come into the house .. they are not lying sorry you’ve been duped
Jury discounted them because "we dont know who hired them" lmfaooooo. So beyond stupid. From the little we've heard, apparently the foreman was really stubborn and hard to work with...
Yeah, not only was he not hit by her car, her car didn't hit anyone. Should be over right there. Then the butt dials. And destroying phones on both ends. Cmon.
Did they ? Or was it inconsistent?? I mean story telling is common in this case. They might have been taken serious had they looked at the evidence lol.
One of the reason she goes to these interviews is to fund her defence!!! She needs the money to prove her innocence! She is not cash cow. She will eventually run out of money! Why would she take the stand?! That’s her right not to!
@@mandystrong8196No factual evidence. They "estimated" her BAC from assuming her last drink was 1230 am or thereabouts. She likely drank after returning to John's home which makes that estimated result UNRELIABLE FABRICATION. And no one else was drinking heavily, right? Not a virtual AA meeting of McAlberts, right? FACTS. FACTS. FACTS.
These prosecutors are really reaching. More and more, they reek of people with a BS case who refuse to back down because they'd have to admit law enforcement wrongdoing. The idea that the jury should or legitimately can draw inferences about the content of a phone call is deeply repellent. For goodness sake, call it what it is: a charge of negligent homicide at the most, and even that won't be easy to prove.
He’s a mob attorney by trade… why Morrisey brought him in when Lally failed imo.. he can supposedly button up the case for the CW with all of their fabricated evidence.
As a father, if my daughter calls and says she may have backed over her boyfriend, I'm pretty sure that I'd say "let's go check things out and make sure he's okay."
Well yeah. In this case, she never did that or said that. Karen's unanswered 1:30am call to her mom was more likely a butt-dial than anything else. If Brennan's theory was correct, and she panicked after "hitting someone with her car," there would've been more than 1, isolated, call...right? Let's see how common it was for the 2 Brians to "butt-dial" each other after 2am, because the fact they never called each other before could really lend credibility to the Defense's theory,
Karen only called her mom, not her dad, she only called once, and nobody answered. How does that prove she was freaking out cuz she "hit someone with her car?" Let's check phone records for both Brians to confirm that they never "butt dialed" each other after 2am before, because that would prove their guilt, by Hank's reasoning!
Even if there was a 1:30 am phone call (which was made up) it wouldn't explain Jen McCabe 2:27 am google search of hos long to die in the cold. Brennan is not that intelligent!
It's evidence. Of course he has to go thru evidence or find evidence to gather. It wasn't his case before this. Most lawyers are busy and don't watch other trials just because they are being streamed. They have their own cases.
So calling your parents is proof of you being guilty of breaking the law. That’s asinine! Why would she call and scream at him if she knew she had ran him over?
If a legal argument sounds completely outrageous to you, you’ve probably misunderstood it. Criminal trials are serious business, governed by countless legal protections and precedents, with multiple layers of oversight. No one is arguing that someone calling their parents proves they are “guilty.” At best here, the CW argues the discovery may provide an inference as to single element of one charge, and it’s not the fact that she called them, but the departure from her usual pattern and practice one hour after John stopped moving that enables the inference (combined with what her parents testify Karen said to them when she spoke to them).
Leave her alone ? Are you serious? How do you think the mother of John Okeefe feels ? She had the choice to take a plea .. she chose to blame the world .. the state will prove Karen’s car hit him .. his dna on bumper, his hair on bumper, his glass on bumper, her tail light in his clothes and in the snow exactly where his phone stops.. nevermind her confession of hitting him until her big wig attorneys came into it .. pretrial Yanetti said it was a tragic accident
KR is factually innocent. I believe she shouldn't have done interviews for this reason. Ugh 😩 CW are grasping at any straw. With Bev helping on sidelines
She is not innocent and the reason she keeps giving interviews is because she’s a narcissist who loves she’s built this brain dead cult that hang on her every word.
That's the very reason she did those interviews, because she's innocent and has nothing to hide. Anyone with half a a brain would look past any inconsistencies in light of the overwhelming evidence in her favor & the thousands of pieces of reasonable doubt any one of which is enough to find her not guilty!
Of course she is innocent.their Evidence doesn’t add up due to the injuries on the deceased Dog bites and Head injuries are not car accidents.unfortunately the first Jury’s were hard at hearing.as some of them wanted her Convicted for no reason.other than that the people who killed John O’keef were being protected.by the system Or maybe those other jurors who wanted to convict her Regardless of the evidence were perhaps the juries were some biased and maybe connected with the killer families and the judge and the DA so if their are requesting her parents phones is mind boggling..
What about bloody Brian Albert , a first responder not coming out of his house to render aid and life saving procedures. Sirens and flashing lights and says he and his wife slept through it, so they say.
@@stevenprice6957Anyone making accusations better bring the receipts to verify them. You have none. You listen to posers who make things up & not only believe what they say, but _carelessly repeat it._ You're a menace to the justice system spreading disinformation. An independent expert, without talking to any member of the Defense, determined Jen McCabe searched "Hos long to die in cold" at 2:27am. Independent experts, without speaking to a member of the Defense, also reconstructed the accident as it was alleged by the Commonwealth. Trooper Paul gave his theory & ARCCA tested it. It proved to be impossible. No case-specific artifacts necessary. If the "evidence" doesn't match what Trooper Paul alleged happened, that's the CW's problem. Moreover, the case "evidence" is particularly irrelevant here, as it was mishandled & falsified by the DA & MSP, who are under investigation by the Feds for _impropriety in this case._
This case can only be described as a double standard. They are filing motion after motion for KR But Jen macabe can delete all the calls with her kids and Higgins can throw his phone in a military base… make it make sense
Absolutely! Jen is the first and only person to be allowed to say cellebrite doesn't mean anything. Only way she could be allowed to say that is police corruption, full stop. No one that isn't connected could get away with this moronic lie.
The defense had clear evidence from experts that a body never struck that car to cause that specific damage. So if a body never touched the car, she never hit him, and none of this motion matters
The Defense had expert opinion of individuals that didn't review ALL info that was available, didn't use a full Crash test dummy (only used a head) in their testing and with NO information that a glass was thrown at the vehicle , built a glass throwing cannon. Would you take their opinion at 100% face value?
@@nelsona8285what information were they missing? Also, they weren't hired for the defense. They were testing theories on ways that the damage could occur. You know, science. No one knows what exactly else was requested of them by their employer who is investigating these departments. If you believe she hit him with her vehicle you also have to believe OJO was pirouettin 30ft across the lawn.
The defense didn’t hite the ARCCA rxperts, the federal government did. ARCCA had ALL the information they needed. It’s physics. Physics don’t change based any of the crap Lally threw around to try and confuse the jury.
@@refinnej5302 Well from the current motions, we know the ARCAA experts didn't have the Infotainment computer information. We also know that it was the Defense expert that botched the original extraction of the Lexus computer. The ARCAA experts testified that they never inspected Read's Lexus which was STILL in State Police custody when the first trial was underway. From the first trial motions, we know the ARCAA report was a limited scope report. They were hired by the FBI Public Corruption Unit to determine if evidence was planted by the police. If they had found that the physical evidence was altered then the DEFENSE definitely would have brought that up during the trial. The ARCAA experts said the tap of the SUV in O'Keefe's driveway would not have caused damage to the tail light. The Federal investigation is over. No one was charged with the crimes involving John O'Keefe. Karen Read never testified in front of the federal grand jury. All the police, that Read says did the crime, did testify before the grand jury.
They have all her phone records from the very beginning, this is a fishing expedition trying to find something that will help the prosecution it's horrible. Searching for something to stick to the wall.
I don't see why they can't, I'm guessing the reasoning would be her phone have calls? But the interview said she did so maybe she deleted? But i though Verizon would still have a record of that or digital analysis could see deleted calls?
I’m actually surprised that the CW wouldn’t even get a mild reproof for stating in court that they “aren’t asking for texting etc.” when that was EXACTLY what they were asking for in their request.
@@sallycinnamon5370 The Defense was not being exactly truthful. Call Detail Records (CDR) of text messages involve the date time and telephone numbers involved in the text NOT THE TEXT MESSAGES THEMSELVES. The prosecutor did not ask for the contents of the texts. That would be at the level of a wire tap request and he knows he doesn't have what he needs to ask for that.
I don't buy anything this "prosecutor" says. The only example he pulls out of the air is the door change, but if you look at the house, the doors are both in the front, but one is to the side. Her saying the side door or front door is not a change in story, it's simply a more descriptive term for which front door. Hank is not impressing me with the spin.
It's like so many things in this case, the facts aren't the slam dunk with the evidence that the CW seems to think. Lally's closing argument was so much of she said she got him, so she must have done it! Like, no sir, I can see it multiple ways, especially from a lady who seems to get frantic and not in their right mind in an emergency (like my mom is, I would not hold anything she said as real or true just cuz she said it cuz literally she's not thinking straight.)
They let her do the interviews because the strategy was ALWAYS to get disinformation out there and on social media in order to taint the jury pool. We know it was effective because the one alternate juror that wasn't selected to deliberate then showed up in Pink and was dismissed. They will have a much harder time getting FKR fanatics on the second jury because the CW is aware how effective it was the first time.
I do too, but I think they 100% know she’s innocent, therefore won’t make mistakes, and a brief synopsis of the case makes people pay attention. I’m from England and have been invested,since accidentally seeing the ‘hos long’ Google search, held up on display in pre trial. I now know the case inside out, and am outraged on the other side of the world. So I guess that exposure to as much of the U.S as possible helps. Not everyone follows true crime and court cases.
@dollface2917 yes I agree but you can never trust your fate in a jury. I see already with him it's gonna be hung again!!! Jurors are fickle. What do you think?
Because public opinion, especially locally, is now solidly on her side. That can put pressure on the DA to rethink this second trial. I'm not saying it was a good idea, but there is a logic to it.
@@Beachnance I’m UK, so we don’t even see trials. I watch a lot of U.S trials, and feel the ‘beyond reasonable doubt’ isn’t how jury’s actually work. I think a defendant is seen as guilty, and the defence has to prove innocence for most trials. The fact that Brian Camp was found not guilty in Mass yesterday gives me hope though. FKR ❤️
How about all the phones from the people at the house party???? And All the Corrupt Troopers???? Yes Brian Albert could of helped John instead of putting him out on his lawn like a dog!
Show the proof that anyone in that house had anything to do with his death, and not just random cherry picked information made to look like a case against them (A conspiracy theory that doesn’t hold together once you pick it apart). She was the last to see him. She was blackout drunk, she was mad at him. She was driving and pulling away the exact moment his phone stopped moving/responding. Her taillight was broken. Pieces of her taillight were found near his body. She didn’t even remember being there! She hit him and didn’t know it because she’s a raging alcoholic. Now, with that said, that police department is beyond incompetent and yes are probably corrupt. But that doesn’t mean they killed someone. You have to look at the evidence. There’s no evidence that anyone from that house has anything to do with his death.
@@rationalskeptic1 do you have any evidence for anything you said other than he said she said? Every witness that saw her that night said she wasn't drunk. The CW couldn't show us evidence of her drinking the drinks. The only receipt covers a couple drinks.
Thank you Peter. You are so awesome. I love how you said you purposefully haven’t watched Karen’s interviews so we could have this convo today. Thanks for your smarts and mannerisms !!!
If there was any perjury of the CW witnesses, the defense would have raised and filed applications about it, etc. They haven’t. At least they took the stand. KR refuses to, yet says everyone is lying. Go figure.
@@Ji5-24they literally were not only perjuring themselves from GJ testimonies but lied directly also. They did catch them in them , they just relied on people not being retarded but people are. Jen McCabe the only person in history to say cellebrite isn't accurate and get away with it- literally only way she can get away with it is if police are covering for her. But people believed that crap , no sense anymore it seems
1:19:33 went through my phone… I have text messages as far back as when this crime occurred! The winter of 2021-2022, and I can still see those texts… it’s wild to me that all these people have auto-deleting texts. Seems people have things to hide.
It's weird that some say Karen was drunk, when the McAlberts all testified that she didn't seem intoxicated. What evidence is there to back that up? Wasn't the medical test for alcohol completed 10+ hours after she got home from the bar? That's not a valid measurement of her intoxication at the time she left the bar. Wouldn't the witnesses have said she appeared to have been drunk if she was drunk?
He's not much into logic. Karen's 1:30am call to her mom was more likely a butt-dial than anything else. If Brennan's theory was correct, and she panicked after "hitting someone with her car," there would've been more than 1, isolated, call...right? Let's see how common it was for the 2 Brians to "butt-dial" each other after 2am, because the fact they never called each other before could really lend credibility to the Defense's theory, right Mr. Brennan?
Also...It's weird that ppl say Karen was drunk, when the McAlberts all testified that she didn't seem intoxicated. Wasn't the medical test for alcohol completed 10+ hours after she got home from the bar? That's not a valid measurement of her intoxication at the time she left the bar. Wouldn't the witnesses have said she appeared to have been drunk if she was drunk?
The side and front door thing, if I remember correctly, both doors are on the same side of the house, facing the yard and not even too far one from other. But it's so strange to me , because it seams they are trying to reinvestigate the whole case in the time left before a new trial.
@@stevenprice6957I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure ARCA said it was inconsistent with Trooper Paul’s theory.. that’s what they tested. ARCA didn’t say it was impossible that she ever hit him with the car.. just the way trooper Paul said she did
@@lizzieyourdi4074 she didn’t hit him with the car cmon not one broken bone or bruise .below neck .maybe if you lived here you’d get it . Waste of taxpayer money here in Massachusetts. No DA would try this case so they went outside in mass dine what does that tell you
Thing is since I was real young if something happened that was scary like my husband not coming home like normal or my brother being expected and not showing, I would call my parents to calm my nerves, I don’t see a problem with calling her parents.
Maybe the next morning not at 1:30 am .. that’s why he wants 30 days to show it’s not typical of her to call her parents at that time and let’s remember karen and John were fighting since New Year’s Eve .. guarantee she prob didn’t call them at 1:30 am on new years !
That's bizarre. Who bothers their elderly parents at 1 am over relationship drama? Me and my sister have only called our parents that early if it was an emergency.
@@leontate8805 She was stuck at a house that wasn't hers, with kids that weren't hers. If I thought my relationship was over and I was stuck with my "stepkids" at 1am, I'd probably call my mom too.
My initial thought? It’s completely irrelevant when independent experts said she didn’t hit JOK with her car. The end. I can’t believe the special prosecutor makes these arguments with a straight face. What a farce.
@@stevenprice6957 You have no receipts. You have no proof Karen is guilty, and neither does the CW. Here's why we know Karen Read's absolutely, factually, innocent. While it's a lot to read, being thorough will make it abundantly clear. ★ TL;DR: Evidence proves John wasn't hit by a car - he had a catastrophic brain injury & multiple blows to the left, right, front & back of his head. How was he punched in the head 5 times from 1 "collision?" He's a 200 lb 6'5" man w/ a soft (not rigid or sharp) body. Tail light polycarbonate isn't going to shatter from hitting a body or a cocktail glass. A body that big _would've_ dented the car. The DOJ hired crash reconstruction experts who confirmed all this on the stand. ★ The "Blue Wall Of Silence" in law enforcement - cops cover for each other & don't narc. Brian A. did favors for ppl. He was in a position to help people cover up mistakes & could use police tech to do surveillance (obtain sensitive info about people) for politicians running for office, etc. Thus, powerful people owed him favors & he called in those favors to keep he & his nephew out of prison. They owed him. ★ The following facts, in totality, prove someone other than Karen Read killed Officer John O'Keefe: ▪︎ Officer Brian A. didn't come outside when cops, firefighters, and a screaming woman were outside his bedroom window trying to save a fellow Boston cop he'd been drinking with hrs before (consciousness of guilt). ▪︎ Even after Karen told police she dropped John off at the Albert home hrs before he was found, CPD never attempted to get a search warrant for the home, to separate witnesses before interviewing them, to secure the crime scene, or to record witness interviews (intentional disregard for procedures). ▪︎ John had blood all over the front of his shirt, consistent with someone who had a bloody nose in an upright position, as opposed to someone laid flat on the ground. ▪︎ Autopsy said John lost 3 lts of blood - it was absent from the scene where he was found (it was in Brian's basement). ▪︎ John's Apple Health data shows he ascended/descended 3 flights of stairs between 12:23 & 12:35am, proving he was in the home. Claims that this data is unreliable are untrue & unsubstantiated. ▪︎ The key cycle when Karen supposedly hit John occurred after MSP seized the vehicle. The vehicle data indicated no collision occurred when Karen had the car. ▪︎ Driving 24 mph in reverse, at night, on a curved road, while it's snowing, for 60 ft, is impossible (just try it - you'll see!) ▪︎ CPD searched the scene 1st & found clear glass, but NO tail light. 10 hrs later, after Karen's car was in MSP custody, tail light pieces appeared at the scene. ▪︎ Proctor's report falsely said he towed Karen's car an hour later than when the video showed the car being seized - to hide that there was time to plant evidence. ▪︎ Proctor passed 2 MSP sallyports & towed Karen's car to the (further) CPD sally port - 3 mins from the crime scene - to enable the planting of evidence. He took the car to CPD after they were recused due to a conflict of interest (Brian's brother was a CPD cop). ▪︎ Bukhenik testified the sallyport video was a true & accurate depiction, when it was actually inverted. His lie impacted the jury's perception of key evidence & mislead them by concealing that Proctor was knelt down behind the _passenger tail light_ outside the view of the camera - _after_ he said he never went near that tail light! ▪︎ Matt M. acted as a lookout, reporting back to Brian A. what police were doing. He also colluded regarding public statements & told Brian & Nicole via group text, "Tell them THE GUY never went in the house!" At the trial, he claimed "the guy" was a friend. Would anyone refer to a friend that way? ▪︎ Jen M. "went over the timeline" w/ Kerry Roberts before her interview & reported back to Brian Albert, in real time, what Kerry was telling police - (via text) "She's telling them EVERYTHING!! I love it!" ▪︎ Jen M. testified at the Federal Grand Jury about 12 things she heard Karen say. "I hit him" was NOT one of them. She only began saying that after a year passed & her 2:27am search became public. ▪︎ Allie M. lied about going "straight home" after taking Colin home. Life 360 showed she left Mr. Albert's, went to the school, and got home an hr later than she claimed. ▪︎ Plow driver didn't see a body in Brian A's yard @ 2:30am. He had a clear view of the yard from a high vantage point. He saw a Ford Edge at 3:30am exactly where John was found shortly after. The Edge was blocking the view of the camera across the street. Brian & Colin Albert both drove Edges. ▪︎ 8 witnesses passed the Alberts' yard after Karen dropped John off & all said they didn't see a body in the yard. ▪︎ DOJ got cell data nobody expected. Albert & Higgins had lied, claiming to be asleep before 2:22am. DOJ found Albert called Higgens @ 2:22, call was missed. Higgins called Albert back, call was answered, spoke for 20 secs. Caught in a lie & the best they could come up with was, "Gosh, I have no idea what happened, but I didn't talk to him! Musta been a butt dial?" ▪︎ Albert & Higgins destroyed their phones 1 day before the Court issued an injunction protecting the phones as evidence. Almost like they were tipped off! ▪︎ Cell records prove Jen M. googled, "Hos long to die in cold" at 2:27am (& deleted it). Vanity Fair hired an independent expert to review testimony from the CW & Defense experts. He agreed w/ the Defense, that the 2:27am search occurred at 2:27am. Defense's expert was independently hired by DOJ. Jen also deleted multiple, back-to-back calls to John's phone as they tried to locate it around 12:50am. ▪︎ Jen & Kerry spent 1 hr at Srg. Lank's (lead investigator from CPD) the day after John died & never disclosed it. Seriously, how many coincidences do the McAlberts think ppl will believe? ▪︎ Proctor lied abt his family's decades-long relationship w/ the McAlberts to the grand jury & prosecutors. That relationship created a conflict of interest, as it prohibited him from investigating them like the suspects they _should've_ been. ▪︎ Higgins went to CPD at 1am after a night of drinking & spent the next day there on his day off. He doesn't even work there - he works for ATF! He monitored the investigation & diverted suspicion from himself & the Alberts. ▪︎ Brian A. replaced the basement floor after John's death, got rid of the family dog (as John's arm had dog bite & scratch marks on it) & sold his home for under market value - destroying evidence. ▪︎ Videos that proved what really happened disappeared after Proctor got his hands on them. No Ring footage was sought by police from Fairview Rd. 45 mins of footage was missing from sallyport video during the time when Karen's car arrived. 3 mins of footage missing from Library camera. Proctor never took a photo of the car before bringing it to CPD. Insane! Ring said Karen Read didn't access John's Ring system. Proctor was the only one who had access. ▪︎ Chris, Julie & Colin all lied abt what time they got home & got caught in the lie on cross. ▪︎ The Waterfall video shows Higgins angrily taunting John, motioning "come here" before he left. Chris Albert grabbed his arm to hold him back. ★ See "Microdots" channel for masterful visual depictions of how this cover-up was executed.
@@stevenprice6957 you troll saying the same thing over and over and you're wrong every time you say it. They looked at all the evidence, it's called physics, I don't even know where you are getting this weird notion, because it isn't from watching the trial, which I encourage you to do.
@@MamaPinks Yes it feels as a kind of revenge for Brennan, because he lost his famous case with mob White Bulger because of the Feds then too. ( He will now again loose the trial, because the FED has everything and knows she is innocent..
@@lisamcclendon2720 I said prepared to. It appears that this fishing expedition is to establish that she never usually rang her parents at that time of night. Why is that relevant if he doesn't want to use it that way?
I doubt that she normally calls her parents at 4:30. This was a disturbing night for her; she thought he was cheating on her, he was missing, she knew something was wrong.
Karen's unanswered 1:30am call to her mom was more likely a butt-dial than anything else. If Brennan's theory was correct, and she panicked after "hitting someone with her car," there would've been more than 1, isolated, call...right? Let's see how common it was for the 2 Brians to "butt-dial" each other after 2am, because the fact they never called each other before could really lend credibility to the Defense's theory,
@@HeatherMax22 Because it is relevant. It is entirely improper and would get the judge recused from the case (which they would want, as she has shown bias in favour of the prosecution). It works also enable them to call the DA as a witness and question him about his attempts to influence the prosecution of Karen Read, supporting the defence's case that she was framed.
@ they passed her going to Albert’s even let her go first heather said two people in car then. When they pulled up behind Karen she was in driver’s seat with dome light on but no one else in car and no body on ground and we know that yard in front is small so John was in that house
@@WhackjobSeaward[theory/opinion/allegedlyyyy] I think things went out of control at the party and he got in a fight with someone there. The dog must have attacked him around that time. It does not seem unlikely that if he had to fight off the dog to get it off him, that someone would have hit him on the head with something to stop him from hurting it. Its crazy how quickly things can escalade. With the way every one seemed to rally and team up, it could have been a group attack, a young adult or the group ´leader’ giving the final blow, someone they would want to protect at all costs, even be willing to throw an innocent in prison for. (The house remodeling and selling with no evidence even gathered there, the phones emptied/lost, the dog given to someone out of state…. it makes no sense that the house was not searched right away…he was heading to a party there! Of course you search it to check if he made it or not, not base it solely on the words of those in the house 🤦🏻♀️) Theoreticaly, if everrrr Karen killed him… based on his injuries, it was not with the car. (I don’t know why they keep insisting on it. maybe they thought they could convince her she did it by accident…. anyways) she could have killed him there by hitting him on the head with an object and leaving him there. The dog could have bit him when they let it go out to pee… …. its all unlikely though. It is also possible that they kicked him out when he was still alive, but beaten up after the altercation. They figured he would call his girlfriend or what not but he just stayed there… and they started to be scared he had died. (Which would explain the search for ´how long to die hypothermia’) One is not likely to search that if he is already dead. Question: did his coat have the marks, or just his arms and regular clothing?
It's wrong and frankly, insulting, to suggest her saying that in any way meant a person, she meant the vehicle for gods sake. This is embarrassing for that lawyer
"Discrepancies" versus ARCA experts - John's injuries inconsistent with being hit by a car'; car damage inconsistent with hitting John mmmm what a mystery!!! SMH
Something I hadn't thought about-Did I miss something? Didn't he have a coat on? I believe a dog biting thru a coat after seeing the pics. And where is the coat? It was winter in MA in a snowstorm🤷♀️
She could have struck him by accident.. he lay out there.. the others let their dog out at some point for the toilet (as often happens) dog finds John, dog bites/tries to drag John. Then the McAlberts or whoever see this and panic, they’ll panic they’ll get the blame.. so they go inside and wait to double down on Karen .. which is why they look so sus
@@lizzieyourdi4074 In this delusional scenario, why didn’t they just help John? A first responder didn’t respond to an “accident” on his lawn? Not based in reality.
The judge asked the prosecutor “couldn’t you get that info from Ms Read’s phone”? He replied he could not but wasn’t specific about why. He said something about 2 search warrants but I couldn’t hear what he said. Of course they could get that info from her records - it’s her phone to their phones, so what would be different?
Karen's unanswered 1:30am call to her mom was more likely a butt-dial than anything else. If Brennan's theory was correct, and she panicked after "hitting someone with her car," there would've been more than 1, isolated, call...right? Let's see how common it was for the 2 Brians to "butt-dial" each other after 2am, because the fact they never called each other before could really lend credibility to the Defense's theory,
They made this argument in the first trial...why do they need more discovery for this? To me, it came off as she was trying to vent to her mom (she thought John was out cheating) and when her mom didn't answer she called her dad's phone trying to get her mom.
If my bf stayed out all night and didn't come home when he knew that I was planning to go home, I would have said a lot worse than Karen. I thought she was being quite polite with him. The dtr was there and could not leave her alone. She called her mom for advice.
The search should encompass to all of their known argument. They were known to argue. If I was hysteric over an argument then ya I’d call my parents in the middle of the night but maybe I’m just close to them idk
Newsflash!!! A Sheriff's deputy is not the person who monitors house arrest detainees! The person responsible for ankle monitoring devices, scheduling, surveillance is hired thru the community corrections division. They work in conjunction with the prosecutors office. Not the Sheriff
Defense attorney: “it’s probably best to not mention sipping a drink at all in an interview knowing how the CW likes to make a mountain out of a mole hill” Commonwealth: “judge the defense attorney in that interview is the only reason the defendant didn’t finish her statement which would have most definitely been her making a full confession and describing in detail how she hit him in reverse, put it in drive, hit him again; and then put in in reverse and hitting him a third time before driving off and calling her parents. What a joke the commonwealth is 🤦🤦♀️🤦♂️
@@stevenprice6957 you can't honestly debate the facts & evidence because you're wrong, lot of doubt you could grasp concepts of justice at all with how you spew your idiocy. Being factually wrong must be depressing, cheer up little fella.
I hope the Reads don’t drive to the nearest military base to destroy their phones.
It won’t destroy the data.
@@gothgammy666Right. Just as Higgins & Alberts didn’t destroy the data. That the FKRers wanna pretend that it did 😏
I love the way y’all were perfectly convinced the Defense should have any witnesses phones they wanted but the witnesses to Read’s statements, confessions & admissions to Daddy & Mommy you’re outraged by.
@@cateellington6653 the defense should have been entitled to everybody’s phone that was inside of the Albert home so they could’ve done Geo fencing, which would’ve showed where each and every person was including when John ended up in the front yard
@@cateellington6653I’m pretty sure we are all comfortable with them giving their phones and taking stand. It’s on going joke for us because it goes back to when defense wanted witnesses phones the judge denied it every time and they took it to SJC and won and got them so if she allows prosecution to happily have the reads it’s just another box checked why people feel the way we do.
The whole time i'm listening to this im thinking.. '' I can't even believe we're here'' 🙄
So freakin true
Blackmail. IMO there has to be some blackmail.
Even if there was a 1:30 am phone call (which was made up) it wouldn't explain Jen McCabes 2:27 am google search of hos long to die in the cold. Brennan is not that intelligent!
I can't either - she is so guilty they had some dumb dumb last time on the jury
Wouldn’t it be ironic if the parents phones had disappeared like half of the prosecution’s witnesses did?🙄
YESSSSSS
Right!
@@ImUrHuckleberry33 they should say it was butt dials 🤣
I thought the same thing 😂
@@Beccaboo502and make the point if they don’t believe this call was a butt dial, they can’t believe the multiple butt dials
What's so troubling is that they are doubling down on a bad case.
@@wileycoyote5858 if it's as bad as they want you to think, would not be hung jury.
@@lisamcclendon2720 2/3 of the charges, the jury concluded 'not guilty'. Just going to remind you that two of the witnesses at a party went to a military base to destroy their phones, only hours before they were given papers that required them to turn their phones over. There is no question that they were hiding evidence about what happened. There is literally no other conclusion besides they are covering up what happened that night.
Well the jury voted not guilty on two counts.Not acknowledged because of Aunty Bev😮
She’s guilty. Dead set fact.
Anyone else notice how Bev allowed everyone else to speak their piece without interrupting? Yanetti (or anyone for the defence) gets up and she constantly cuts him off before he finishes. It infuriates me and is so obvious she is biased just from this behaviour 😡😡
If it's a new trial, we need a new judge
you would think @peanut_gallery-411.
ugh, i wish
Judge Bev has been named as the permanent judge for this case (special assignment) by the chief Justice. I don't know why it was done, but that will make it difficult to remove her without an undeniable reason.
They even removed her from another high-profile case to make sure she can focus on the Read case.
It's corruption at its finest.
HERE, HERE!! I am feeling PTSD just listening to her voice again.
But I want trooper Paul to testify again. I have this problem with my physics engine. It cannot calculate p=mv when I'm dealing with black Lexus SUVs. I believe trooper Paul could help me with that.
This judge will give the prosecution anything that they ask for.
I have a bad feeling about this judge
Itll definitely show prejudice though if she allows the phone records when she denied the defense from getting prosecution witness phone data. Lots of buttdials there
@@williamfletcher5760go watch the trial you’ll feel sick to your stomach ( last trial)
@@williamfletcher5760”have”? Where have you been? She’s been like this since day one. 😡
@@amherstanne1219 I have watched a load of trials with Peter and Emily D. I not has happy with the legal profession as they seem to be so I try not to get into it in the channel unless its really bad. Hannah reeds prosecutor, Lally this judge, court house Beky I think are the tip of a rotten iceberg
Karen was overcharged hoping she would plea.
no she wants to get off completely. trust me I know from source
Why shouldn t she want to get off?@@meganjenkins2384
I think the commenter meant that the DA was hoping she would plea. They didn't think it would go this far. @@meganjenkins2384
First of all, I’m 81 years old, and I’m up at all hours. A good night sleep has become an elusive dream for me.
I am not usually a snarky person, but I have to say that just hearing that judges voice set my teeth on edge.
Just remembered the fact that aunt Bev wasn’t supposed to even be on this trial but forced her way onto it and that is still so shocking to me. While still pale in comparison to all the other shockers in this case of course 😂
Why are you just straight up lying?
@@leontate8805it’s true. It was originally assigned to another judge, but she decided to take it over.
@@DaveReece-u4b No, Cannone was the original Judge assigned this case. After the mistrial, Judge Cannone was promoted to a superior courts spot, but because she originally oversaw this trial, she still has to be the judge for the retrial.
Why do you people lie about and slander this judge so much?
@@leontate8805 i have no clue how she got that promotion. Shes awful. I'd hate to stand in front of her. Shes in cahoots with the rest of the frauds.
@@leontate8805 haven’t you noticed fkr find a problem with every witness ? Anyone that says anything against karen is lying .. unbelievable
I have to keep rewinding because I get wrapped up in reading the comments. They are as good as the content !!! Everyone is so smart and has such valid points !!!!
I live in the comments. So interesting.
@@Deondra72 I agree! There are so many brilliant folks in his comment sections
@@notnow7973me too 😅so much so ,I don’t hear what is being said 😫
@@utter007 haha! Me too! Fun! I learn so much from other viewers. This case has so many layers. I learned the intricacies from other viewers.
Praying for Karen. Praying for these criminal McAlberts to get theirs. What a rotten lot.
@@utter007& then i listen again😅
Something I found very interesting is how Judge Cannone told Ms Little that this is a new trial when she was arguing a motion. Then she told the other defense lawyer that she left that motion open for them in the last trial in another motion argument. I’m confused is this a new trial or a continued trial.
She does nothing but talk out of both sides of her mouth .. she is a terrible judge.
It's whatever is most beneficial for the Commonwealth.
Bias Bev
It’s whatever argument that allows Bev’s petty harassment of the defense.
It is a new trial when it suits her bias.
I’m so sick of the CW of Massachusetts 🙄
Why ? Because they know someone killed her boyfriend and then blamed innocent witnesses ? Even o j’s lawyers didn’t blame friends of the victim
And why wouldn't they ask for these in the first place. Smh...
The CW are a bunch of clowns, I agree with you 1000000000000% 😂
@@Babyd320 the victim in OJ’s case wasn’t found in her friends front yard, try again.
@@Babyd320Don’t understand why witnesses were blamed, they only butt dialled , with face recognition phones. I’ll let you ponder on that one. Ringing one another about who said what to the police, who told the police everything. hos to die search before John was found, making police statements together in each others houses. had to be reminded by Lally what they said in their statements , Oh the list goes on, and on and on and on. , I also think the witnesses are in the Guinness book of records aren’t they? For the most times I Don’t recall was said. On a witness stand.
It’s disgusting how the prosecution says “she knew she hit him” when they absolutely have not yet proven that she did hit him.
Right, no outside evidence other than her statement/question.
@@origamikiddo2625 that came from Jen. Like Jen , the friend that would steal your wallet and turn around and help you look for it.
They're trying to prove that she thought she hit him or hit something but still doesn't matter. You can think you hit something or someone but if the facts are not there then its bull. This whole case is bull
She’s said she hit something
In her own interview, she tells a different story. Always wondered why that evidence was not included in the first trial. It comes right from her mouth, and her father's mouth. She thought she hit something.
But they proved he wasn't hit by a car.
When you say "THEY PROVED" he wasn't hit by a car you say that because you believe Defense experts regarding their testimony about the injuries. The prosecution did prove that John O'Keefe was not only struck by a car but by Read's SUV. The evidence: her SUV tail light pieces found where John O'Keefe was found., DNA and hair from JO found on her SUV bumper and tail light, micro fragments of the tail light in his clothing, his cellphone GPS stopped updating new locations shortly before Read's cell phone connected to the O'Keefe home WIFI. The proof she was drunk when she did it: her BAC was STILL above the legal limit hours after she hit him with her SUV and left him to freeze. The evidence that proves her intent: Her angry voice mails, her attempts to call her parents at 1am, her NOT calling 911 EVER, he statement to Kerry Roberts at 5am that John was de@d and may have been hit by a plow before his body was found.
Did they?
@@traveltmyes.
They sure did imo
@@traveltm If you believe in physics, body mechanics, and science they did.
One word: physics. End of case.
Yes ! Why can't others see that ?
I can’t even remember the state’s witness’ name that didn’t know several words about physics when Jackson was questioning him. 😂😂 it was comical to say the least. He had no clue the word kinetics 😂😂
I think KR may have thought she hit John when she found him dead the next day but i don’t think she hit him intentionally or left him dying at the scene the night before. The problem here is KR was drunk and she doesn’t really remember the previous night. The physics, as you say, closes the case. It should give her peace as well as exonerate her. I hope she is found not guilty and gives up drinking. Her life will be the better for it.
@@Deondra72trooper Paul
@@leslie4551 she went back to Fairview before calling his friends that morning .. she saw him and didn’t call 911 .. regardless of intent it’s at least manslaughter and operating under the influence..: yet she is still over the the internet at parties with drinks in her hand .. yes most likely not driving but still not the best look
RE: KR's call to her parents at 1:30 a.m. -- It's clear to me, based on the other calls KR made that night, that she was distraught about being at OJO's alone with his niece and nephew. She wanted to go home to her own house, but didn't know what to do about the children. If I were in KR's shoes, I would have absolutely called my mother to see if it was okay to leave the children alone.
How do you know this lol she needed to call her mom and dad to see if she could leave her boyfriends kids? If she wants that to be her story, she needs to go on the stand and say that. That's the only way to get her version in. Her dad said nothing about her calling them to see if she could leave kids. He would know more than anyone what she wanted.
Yeah, the 40 something year old woman who returned to the house after midnight tried to call her 70ish parents after 1am to "get permission" to leave the house where a 16 year old girl (the nephew was not there) had been home alone up to midnight? Ok, I now know that FKR fanatics lost any common sense most people are born with.
@robinroe8559 This isn't a teenager babysitting, this is a grown woman. If she is still asking Mommy and Daddy what any grown person should know to do, then she has more issues than I thought she might.
@@lisamcclendon2720Problem moron, is the voicemails she left John literally say that. Pay attention before you say stupid things
@@lisamcclendon2720In the 30 days prior , John didn’t fail to come home, the fact she called her parents the only night John didn’t return is THE ENTIRE POINT
Only thing that undermines the fabric of the judicial system is this prosecution.
Bev refused to let the defense have the phone records of all the witnesses from the scene that night. But, prosecution wants her to give them the records of dad who wasn't at the scene. Her ruling should be interesting.
Plus, where's the logic? Karen's 1:30am call to her mom was more likely a butt-dial than anything else. If Brennan's theory was correct, and she panicked after "hitting someone with her car," there would've been more than 1, isolated, call...right?
Let's see how common it was for the 2 Brians to "butt-dial" each other after 2am, because the fact they never called each other before could really lend credibility to the Defense's theory, right Mr. Brennan?
This would be interesting if there was even a hint of proof that KR hit OJO otherwise it's a waste
So you think his dna and hair on her bumper isn’t evidence? Her tail light in his clothes . Her tail light in the place where his phone stops moving ? His glass in the bumper ? How is that not evidence? She knew where his body was because she knew she hit him there .. she went back to Fairview and didn’t call 911 .. the car data will prove this
I guess pieces of her taillight being found not just around but also imbedded in John O’Keefe’s clothing isn’t evidence.
But because her PR campaign says it’s planted must make it so.
I guess the 10+ officers who were presented when the taillight was recovered the day the body was found are all lying … along with the other 30+ witnesses.
@@Always_Thinking There's a lot of proof. She admitted it!
@IngridC-m4t It was a question & NOT a statement! Ever hear of physics?
@@IngridC-m4t you are absolutely incorrect, to the point where you are either being disingenuous or very stupid
Calling Karens father to the stand could well back fire. I think he would be great on the stand but not for the prosecution 🤭 My children, 50, 47 and 43 know that they always can call me if necessary.And they do. From Holland 🇳🇱
The CW in the first trial had no idea if Mr Read would lie on the stand. Since he was seen on video, along with her brother, looking at the tail light of the SUV and did not testify for the Defense in the first trial, you can assume he is not willing to lie. The new Prosecutor, armed with the information, definitely feels more comfortable in putting Mr Read on the stand.
@@nelsona8285he was not seen on video looking at the taillight. You’re the one lying
@@nelsona8285you can’t assume there are a multitude of reasons for the defense to have not called him such as strategy and time management.
@@nelsona8285 The CW will only help the defense if they call Mr Read.
The CW doesn’t really want Mr Read to testify. They want him on the witness list so they can sequester him.
Noone intentionally wakes their parents up in the middle of the night unless it is very urgent.
If she “confessed” to her parents at 1 am, don’t you think they would have done something other than go back to sleep? Give me a break.
Yes!! They are fishing they have nothing
She was pissed off and wanted to vent! Or maybe she was calling to say she was driving there to stay. Who lived closer to John home. Karen or her parents?
She didn't TALK to them at 1am. She called them at 1am and no one answered. The CW wants to get phone records for 30 days to see if she had a pattern of these types of late night calls. If there is no previous pattern, this would be VERY odd to call unless there was a serious emergency, like hitting your boyfriend with your SUV, while drunk and angry, and leaving him to freeze in the snow.
@@nelsona8285 or maybe she's fighting with her boyfriend and wants to know from her parents if it's okay to leave John's neice home alone, so she herself could go back to her own home before the storm. John was supposed to wave her into the house, she thought he blew her off. She was pissed and didn't wanna stay at his house. I would have called my parents too.
@@justkim9827 So instead of driving back to the house and pounding on the door to drag him out and tell him directly that she was going home (his niece was about 16 yoa at the time and alone when Read arrived after midnight) this 40 something year old tried to call her parents that look to be in their 70s at 1am to ask if it is ok to leave John''s house? Now I know why the FKR fanatics have no common sense.
I'm getting to the point where I can barely stand to watch these hearings because the injustice is so blood boiling, and then I realized - that's what judge Cannone wants. For all the attention to go away so she can be corrupt in private
So true!
Very good point. There's a microscope on that whole department right now, and they absolutely want us to tune out. Not going to happen.
Agree.
Little is awesome
I think you’ve hit the nail on the head re the prosecution’s potential strategy Peter. They will discredit her with inconsistencies and character‘deficiencies’ in an attempt to to persuade the jury to ignore the horrendous investigation, Arca experts, dog bite expert etc…
Holding out for a just an unbiased jury willing to focus on the hard evidence and testimony from experts.
Thanking you for this analysis!😊🙏
The small things they say she lied about are nothing compared to what most of their witness lied about.
They are attempting to minipulate her words. There are two doors on the front of the house, and one is the main front door. The other door is what she called the side door, and it is also a front door as well. They are grasping at straws, different terminology, meaning the same!
Witnesses didn’t lie the only liar is Karen Read
@@michelletaylor4211 that’s what I thought! The front of the house has two doors. This is stretching it! I just don’t trust the judge
@ no because she said in another interview that she didn’t see him go to the door and she wasn’t sure if she could have clipped him . Let’s remember each door to the front of the house leads to a party of 10-12 people .. both doors and not 1 person saw him come into the house .. they are not lying sorry you’ve been duped
She didnt lie, she changed her story. To committing this horrible crime, to not committing this horrible crime.
But experts said that he was not hit by a car?..??
Jury discounted them because "we dont know who hired them" lmfaooooo. So beyond stupid. From the little we've heard, apparently the foreman was really stubborn and hard to work with...
Yeah, not only was he not hit by her car, her car didn't hit anyone. Should be over right there. Then the butt dials. And destroying phones on both ends. Cmon.
They believed the nonsense lack of physical evidence shown by the state.
Did they ? Or was it inconsistent?? I mean story telling is common in this case. They might have been taken serious had they looked at the evidence lol.
@@stevenprice6957 @stevenprice6957 yes they in fact did. Physics, it's called physics. You choosing to disregard that is disingenuous. Go rewatch.
One of the reason she goes to these interviews is to fund her defence!!! She needs the money to prove her innocence! She is not cash cow. She will eventually run out of money! Why would she take the stand?! That’s her right not to!
She can’t take the stand because she was blackout drunk.
@@mandystrong8196No factual evidence. They "estimated" her BAC from assuming her last drink was 1230 am or thereabouts. She likely drank after returning to John's home which makes that estimated result UNRELIABLE FABRICATION. And no one else was drinking heavily, right? Not a virtual AA meeting of McAlberts, right? FACTS. FACTS. FACTS.
KR is already 5 mil in debt due to first trial. I’m glad she got some probono support.
Very good point! I hope she owns half that corrupt state when this is all over and done. Maybe even a little cottage on the cape. 😊
These prosecutors are really reaching. More and more, they reek of people with a BS case who refuse to back down because they'd have to admit law enforcement wrongdoing. The idea that the jury should or legitimately can draw inferences about the content of a phone call is deeply repellent. For goodness sake, call it what it is: a charge of negligent homicide at the most, and even that won't be easy to prove.
Yep, he’s trying to cloud the facts!
He’s a mob attorney by trade… why Morrisey brought him in when Lally failed imo.. he can supposedly button up the case for the CW with all of their fabricated evidence.
As a father, if my daughter calls and says she may have backed over her boyfriend, I'm pretty sure that I'd say "let's go check things out and make sure he's okay."
Exactly
Well yeah. In this case, she never did that or said that. Karen's unanswered 1:30am call to her mom was more likely a butt-dial than anything else. If Brennan's theory was correct, and she panicked after "hitting someone with her car," there would've been more than 1, isolated, call...right?
Let's see how common it was for the 2 Brians to "butt-dial" each other after 2am, because the fact they never called each other before could really lend credibility to the Defense's theory,
@WhackjobSeaward The case of the Butt dials
Karen only called her mom, not her dad, she only called once, and nobody answered. How does that prove she was freaking out cuz she "hit someone with her car?"
Let's check phone records for both Brians to confirm that they never "butt dialed" each other after 2am before, because that would prove their guilt, by Hank's reasoning!
Even if there was a 1:30 am phone call (which was made up) it wouldn't explain Jen McCabe 2:27 am google search of hos long to die in the cold. Brennan is not that intelligent!
He didn't watch the first trial but watched piece by piece of her interviews? What!
It's evidence. Of course he has to go thru evidence or find evidence to gather. It wasn't his case before this. Most lawyers are busy and don't watch other trials just because they are being streamed. They have their own cases.
Yeah, but those interviews are not evidence, according to the law. The trial had all of the actual evidence.
@3_up_moon they absolutely are evidence. You've never heard that ANYTHING you say can and will be used against you? It's absolutely evidence.
@lisamcclendon2720 it has never been entered into evidence. It is not evidence, according to the courts.
@@3_up_moon nothing gets admitted as evidence until the trial. You can't admit evidence into a trial that hasn't started yet.
far too much corruption, in this case, the judge has connections with the family
He wants to dazzle them with bulls$$$! Forget the facts!
I called my parents all the time in college..I miss them both ugh
So calling your parents is proof of you being guilty of breaking the law. That’s asinine! Why would she call and scream at him if she knew she had ran him over?
Because it's said she rarely talks with them so it must have been a big reason she called them out of the blue.
@@truthhurts2879yeah, John didn’t come home….
If a legal argument sounds completely outrageous to you, you’ve probably misunderstood it. Criminal trials are serious business, governed by countless legal protections and precedents, with multiple layers of oversight. No one is arguing that someone calling their parents proves they are “guilty.” At best here, the CW argues the discovery may provide an inference as to single element of one charge, and it’s not the fact that she called them, but the departure from her usual pattern and practice one hour after John stopped moving that enables the inference (combined with what her parents testify Karen said to them when she spoke to them).
@@truthhurts2879no she is very close with them but yes she did call in the middle of night
Grasping at straws …
What a joke....this is in the Appeals court for months with blocking bringing the jurors back in to interview....
A call to her parents to "prove" she killed him? No, that doesn't smack of "we have no case and we know it". Good god, leave this woman alone.
Why so she can get away with murder. I think not.
Leave her alone ? Are you serious? How do you think the mother of John Okeefe feels ? She had the choice to take a plea .. she chose to blame the world .. the state will prove Karen’s car hit him .. his dna on bumper, his hair on bumper, his glass on bumper, her tail light in his clothes and in the snow exactly where his phone stops.. nevermind her confession of hitting him until her big wig attorneys came into it .. pretrial Yanetti said it was a tragic accident
@@jfk32975that’s funny
There was a shard of the taillight in the victim's sweater. Explain that. Oh right, you clowns just cry, "setup" for every single piece of forensics
I've had my kid call me at 3AM & always encouraged "call anytime, day or night, if you need me for anything!. As did my parents ❤
KR is factually innocent. I believe she shouldn't have done interviews for this reason. Ugh 😩 CW are grasping at any straw. With Bev helping on sidelines
She is not innocent and the reason she keeps giving interviews is because she’s a narcissist who loves she’s built this brain dead cult that hang on her every word.
That's the very reason she did those interviews, because she's innocent and has nothing to hide. Anyone with half a a brain would look past any inconsistencies in light of the overwhelming evidence in her favor & the thousands of pieces of reasonable doubt any one of which is enough to find her not guilty!
@ I know, and the inconsistencies should be looked past. I just can't believe that she is being retried.
@@caroline-brisbane8577 I'm hoping it won't actually come to that.
Of course she is innocent.their Evidence doesn’t add up due to the injuries on the deceased Dog bites and Head injuries are not car accidents.unfortunately the first Jury’s were hard at hearing.as some of them wanted her Convicted for no reason.other than that the people who killed John O’keef were being protected.by the system Or maybe those other jurors who wanted to convict her Regardless of the evidence were perhaps the juries were some biased and maybe connected with the killer families and the judge and the DA so if their are requesting her parents phones is mind boggling..
What about bloody Brian Albert , a first responder not coming out of his house to render aid and life saving procedures. Sirens and flashing lights and says he and his wife slept through it, so they say.
I’m baffled how they can sit and listen to the facts of the injuries to John’s body over and over again and not realize the truth
That's what's so evil, a lot of people know what's going on here, know this is not right,
Read killed a man. She’s doing royal waves. Lock the whack job up
@@stevenprice6957Anyone making accusations better bring the receipts to verify them. You have none. You listen to posers who make things up & not only believe what they say, but _carelessly repeat it._ You're a menace to the justice system spreading disinformation.
An independent expert, without talking to any member of the Defense, determined Jen McCabe searched "Hos long to die in cold" at 2:27am.
Independent experts, without speaking to a member of the Defense, also reconstructed the accident as it was alleged by the Commonwealth. Trooper Paul gave his theory & ARCCA tested it. It proved to be impossible. No case-specific artifacts necessary. If the "evidence" doesn't match what Trooper Paul alleged happened, that's the CW's problem.
Moreover, the case "evidence" is particularly irrelevant here, as it was mishandled & falsified by the DA & MSP, who are under investigation by the Feds for _impropriety in this case._
@@stevenprice6957Chris Albert killed a man. Brian Albert & Colin Albert killed John O'Keefe.
Bev never rules from the bench - even when the ruling is basic - because she needs to consult with the puppet master first for instruction.
dumbest most corrupt judge every. Wonder how she got this position. CAn't believe she is even a lawyer.
This case can only be described as a double standard. They are filing motion after motion for KR
But Jen macabe can delete all the calls with her kids and Higgins can throw his phone in a military base… make it make sense
Absolutely! Jen is the first and only person to be allowed to say cellebrite doesn't mean anything. Only way she could be allowed to say that is police corruption, full stop. No one that isn't connected could get away with this moronic lie.
Yeah right🙄
Nothing was deleted. Stop being Moronic. Guilty
The defense had clear evidence from experts that a body never struck that car to cause that specific damage. So if a body never touched the car, she never hit him, and none of this motion matters
The Defense had expert opinion of individuals that didn't review ALL info that was available, didn't use a full Crash test dummy (only used a head) in their testing and with NO information that a glass was thrown at the vehicle , built a glass throwing cannon. Would you take their opinion at 100% face value?
@@nelsona8285what information were they missing?
Also, they weren't hired for the defense. They were testing theories on ways that the damage could occur. You know, science. No one knows what exactly else was requested of them by their employer who is investigating these departments.
If you believe she hit him with her vehicle you also have to believe OJO was pirouettin 30ft across the lawn.
The defense didn’t hite the ARCCA rxperts, the federal government did.
ARCCA had ALL the information they needed.
It’s physics. Physics don’t change based any of the crap Lally threw around to try and confuse the jury.
@@refinnej5302 Well from the current motions, we know the ARCAA experts didn't have the Infotainment computer information. We also know that it was the Defense expert that botched the original extraction of the Lexus computer. The ARCAA experts testified that they never inspected Read's Lexus which was STILL in State Police custody when the first trial was underway. From the first trial motions, we know the ARCAA report was a limited scope report. They were hired by the FBI Public Corruption Unit to determine if evidence was planted by the police. If they had found that the physical evidence was altered then the DEFENSE definitely would have brought that up during the trial. The ARCAA experts said the tap of the SUV in O'Keefe's driveway would not have caused damage to the tail light.
The Federal investigation is over. No one was charged with the crimes involving John O'Keefe. Karen Read never testified in front of the federal grand jury. All the police, that Read says did the crime, did testify before the grand jury.
You do know independent "experts" are just paid mouthpieces and will 100%of the time back up whatever side they getting paid by?
Why does the CW pretend that the Crash Daddies never existed. Honestly, would it be because they do not think they were reputable?
Because they're disastrous for their case lol
Too much truth. CW, specifically da Morrissey, wants a win as opposed to truth and justice for Officer OKeefe.
Why can’t they just use her phone records?
They have all her phone records from the very beginning, this is a fishing expedition trying to find something that will help the prosecution it's horrible. Searching for something to stick to the wall.
I don't see why they can't, I'm guessing the reasoning would be her phone have calls? But the interview said she did so maybe she deleted? But i though Verizon would still have a record of that or digital analysis could see deleted calls?
LOVE THIS GRACE! Ur SOOO smart and insightful! Cant WAIT for the next one!!
State is fishing they don't have enough to prove their case
I’m actually surprised that the CW wouldn’t even get a mild reproof for stating in court that they “aren’t asking for texting etc.” when that was EXACTLY what they were asking for in their request.
They have plenty of evidence.. Brennan will prove beyond a reasonable doubt
@@sallycinnamon5370 The Defense was not being exactly truthful. Call Detail Records (CDR) of text messages involve the date time and telephone numbers involved in the text NOT THE TEXT MESSAGES THEMSELVES. The prosecutor did not ask for the contents of the texts. That would be at the level of a wire tap request and he knows he doesn't have what he needs to ask for that.
@ Do they really? Because they didn’t last time…and they are still scrambling around for more
@@Babyd320they failed to produce it at the first trial then
How do they get around the fact that they can get the same info they seek from her own cell records??
If one of my kids called me at 1:30 in the middle of the night, I would know right away something was wrong!
I don't buy anything this "prosecutor" says. The only example he pulls out of the air is the door change, but if you look at the house, the doors are both in the front, but one is to the side. Her saying the side door or front door is not a change in story, it's simply a more descriptive term for which front door. Hank is not impressing me with the spin.
Exactly. Other people have called that the front door as well.
It's like so many things in this case, the facts aren't the slam dunk with the evidence that the CW seems to think. Lally's closing argument was so much of she said she got him, so she must have done it! Like, no sir, I can see it multiple ways, especially from a lady who seems to get frantic and not in their right mind in an emergency (like my mom is, I would not hold anything she said as real or true just cuz she said it cuz literally she's not thinking straight.)
Lallys sitting there with his tail between his legs, like he’s mortified to be there lol.
I will NEVER understand why her lawyers let her do these interviews.
They let her do the interviews because the strategy was ALWAYS to get disinformation out there and on social media in order to taint the jury pool. We know it was effective because the one alternate juror that wasn't selected to deliberate then showed up in Pink and was dismissed. They will have a much harder time getting FKR fanatics on the second jury because the CW is aware how effective it was the first time.
I do too, but I think they 100% know she’s innocent, therefore won’t make mistakes, and a brief synopsis of the case makes people pay attention. I’m from England and have been invested,since accidentally seeing the ‘hos long’ Google search, held up on display in pre trial. I now know the case inside out, and am outraged on the other side of the world. So I guess that exposure to as much of the U.S as possible helps. Not everyone follows true crime and court cases.
@dollface2917 yes I agree but you can never trust your fate in a jury. I see already with him it's gonna be hung again!!! Jurors are fickle. What do you think?
Because public opinion, especially locally, is now solidly on her side. That can put pressure on the DA to rethink this second trial. I'm not saying it was a good idea, but there is a logic to it.
@@Beachnance I’m UK, so we don’t even see trials. I watch a lot of U.S trials, and feel the ‘beyond reasonable doubt’ isn’t how jury’s actually work. I think a defendant is seen as guilty, and the defence has to prove innocence for most trials. The fact that Brian Camp was found not guilty in Mass yesterday gives me hope though. FKR ❤️
How about all the phones from the people at the house party???? And All the Corrupt Troopers???? Yes Brian Albert could of helped John instead of putting him out on his lawn like a dog!
Not like a dog, like garbage.
Were you there you know for a fact that he put him out on his lawn? This case is insane on both sides. Everybody making assumptions.
Show the proof that anyone in that house had anything to do with his death, and not just random cherry picked information made to look like a case against them (A conspiracy theory that doesn’t hold together once you pick it apart).
She was the last to see him. She was blackout drunk, she was mad at him. She was driving and pulling away the exact moment his phone stopped moving/responding. Her taillight was broken. Pieces of her taillight were found near his body. She didn’t even remember being there! She hit him and didn’t know it because she’s a raging alcoholic.
Now, with that said, that police department is beyond incompetent and yes are probably corrupt. But that doesn’t mean they killed someone. You have to look at the evidence. There’s no evidence that anyone from that house has anything to do with his death.
@@rationalskeptic1 do you have any evidence for anything you said other than he said she said? Every witness that saw her that night said she wasn't drunk. The CW couldn't show us evidence of her drinking the drinks. The only receipt covers a couple drinks.
@@traveltm
You must be new to this case, because yes they put him on that lawn. 100%
Thank you Peter. You are so awesome. I love how you said you purposefully haven’t watched Karen’s interviews so we could have this convo today. Thanks for your smarts and mannerisms !!!
I think they want to see when Mr. Read first contacted the attorney.
Maybe I'm just comparing with Lally, but i like this prosecutor
All I can say is I never thought I would see a witchhunt in this day and age!
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It’s Massachusetts unfortunately.
@@cococgb5389 YSL.
Lol we definitely know all about witch hunts!!
@ right lol!
@@cococgb5389 seriously? Look at what liberals did to President Trump!
The state screwed this case up so bad and their witnesses lied under oath, they need to be prosecuted for perjury.
If there was any perjury of the CW witnesses, the defense would have raised and filed applications about it, etc. They haven’t. At least they took the stand. KR refuses to, yet says everyone is lying. Go figure.
@@Ji5-24they literally were not only perjuring themselves from GJ testimonies but lied directly also. They did catch them in them , they just relied on people not being retarded but people are. Jen McCabe the only person in history to say cellebrite isn't accurate and get away with it- literally only way she can get away with it is if police are covering for her. But people believed that crap , no sense anymore it seems
1:19:33 went through my phone… I have text messages as far back as when this crime occurred! The winter of 2021-2022, and I can still see those texts… it’s wild to me that all these people have auto-deleting texts. Seems people have things to hide.
It's weird that some say Karen was drunk, when the McAlberts all testified that she didn't seem intoxicated. What evidence is there to back that up? Wasn't the medical test for alcohol completed 10+ hours after she got home from the bar? That's not a valid measurement of her intoxication at the time she left the bar. Wouldn't the witnesses have said she appeared to have been drunk if she was drunk?
Sipping "drinks" does not mean alcohol nor does it mean it can't be water. Intresting how Brennan's tactics are working
He's not much into logic.
Karen's 1:30am call to her mom was more likely a butt-dial than anything else. If Brennan's theory was correct, and she panicked after "hitting someone with her car," there would've been more than 1, isolated, call...right?
Let's see how common it was for the 2 Brians to "butt-dial" each other after 2am, because the fact they never called each other before could really lend credibility to the Defense's theory, right Mr. Brennan?
Also...It's weird that ppl say Karen was drunk, when the McAlberts all testified that she didn't seem intoxicated. Wasn't the medical test for alcohol completed 10+ hours after she got home from the bar? That's not a valid measurement of her intoxication at the time she left the bar. Wouldn't the witnesses have said she appeared to have been drunk if she was drunk?
The side and front door thing, if I remember correctly, both doors are on the same side of the house, facing the yard and not even too far one from other. But it's so strange to me , because it seams they are trying to reinvestigate the whole case in the time left before a new trial.
We know she didn’t hit him from Arcca what are we doing here
Corruption.
They want to find a person to hate.
Who’s we ? They said inconsistent but didn’t look at evidence. You can’t take anyone serious not looking at evidence lol
@@stevenprice6957I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure ARCA said it was inconsistent with Trooper Paul’s theory.. that’s what they tested. ARCA didn’t say it was impossible that she ever hit him with the car.. just the way trooper Paul said she did
@@lizzieyourdi4074 she didn’t hit him with the car cmon not one broken bone or bruise .below neck .maybe if you lived here you’d get it . Waste of taxpayer money here in Massachusetts. No DA would try this case so they went outside in mass dine what does that tell you
Thing is since I was real young if something happened that was scary like my husband not coming home like normal or my brother being expected and not showing, I would call my parents to calm my nerves, I don’t see a problem with calling her parents.
Not if you haven't called them for 30 day's prior to that night.
@@truthhurts2879 Karen calls her folks daily. You have no receipts. You're a menace to the justice system spreading disinformation.
I mean if I was feeling really upset with my boyfriend, I might call my parents late at night
Maybe the next morning not at 1:30 am .. that’s why he wants 30 days to show it’s not typical of her to call her parents at that time and let’s remember karen and John were fighting since New Year’s Eve .. guarantee she prob didn’t call them at 1:30 am on new years !
That's bizarre. Who bothers their elderly parents at 1 am over relationship drama? Me and my sister have only called our parents that early if it was an emergency.
@ exactly
I’m 50; and i have done this many times.
@@leontate8805 She was stuck at a house that wasn't hers, with kids that weren't hers. If I thought my relationship was over and I was stuck with my "stepkids" at 1am, I'd probably call my mom too.
My initial thought? It’s completely irrelevant when independent experts said she didn’t hit JOK with her car. The end. I can’t believe the special prosecutor makes these arguments with a straight face. What a farce.
Who said didn’t ? You making it up lol. Inconsistent isn’t didn’t. Also it would help had they taken a look at the evidence.
@@stevenprice6957 You have no receipts. You have no proof Karen is guilty, and neither does the CW.
Here's why we know Karen Read's absolutely, factually, innocent. While it's a lot to read, being thorough will make it abundantly clear.
★ TL;DR: Evidence proves John wasn't hit by a car - he had a catastrophic brain injury & multiple blows to the left, right, front & back of his head. How was he punched in the head 5 times from 1 "collision?" He's a 200 lb 6'5" man w/ a soft (not rigid or sharp) body. Tail light polycarbonate isn't going to shatter from hitting a body or a cocktail glass. A body that big _would've_ dented the car. The DOJ hired crash reconstruction experts who confirmed all this on the stand.
★ The "Blue Wall Of Silence" in law enforcement - cops cover for each other & don't narc. Brian A. did favors for ppl. He was in a position to help people cover up mistakes & could use police tech to do surveillance (obtain sensitive info about people) for politicians running for office, etc. Thus, powerful people owed him favors & he called in those favors to keep he & his nephew out of prison. They owed him.
★ The following facts, in totality, prove someone other than Karen Read killed Officer John O'Keefe:
▪︎ Officer Brian A. didn't come outside when cops, firefighters, and a screaming woman were outside his bedroom window trying to save a fellow Boston cop he'd been drinking with hrs before (consciousness of guilt).
▪︎ Even after Karen told police she dropped John off at the Albert home hrs before he was found, CPD never attempted to get a search warrant for the home, to separate witnesses before interviewing them, to secure the crime scene, or to record witness interviews (intentional disregard for procedures).
▪︎ John had blood all over the front of his shirt, consistent with someone who had a bloody nose in an upright position, as opposed to someone laid flat on the ground.
▪︎ Autopsy said John lost 3 lts of blood - it was absent from the scene where he was found (it was in Brian's basement).
▪︎ John's Apple Health data shows he ascended/descended 3 flights of stairs between 12:23 & 12:35am, proving he was in the home. Claims that this data is unreliable are untrue & unsubstantiated.
▪︎ The key cycle when Karen supposedly hit John occurred after MSP seized the vehicle. The vehicle data indicated no collision occurred when Karen had the car.
▪︎ Driving 24 mph in reverse, at night, on a curved road, while it's snowing, for 60 ft, is impossible (just try it - you'll see!)
▪︎ CPD searched the scene 1st & found clear glass, but NO tail light. 10 hrs later, after Karen's car was in MSP custody, tail light pieces appeared at the scene.
▪︎ Proctor's report falsely said he towed Karen's car an hour later than when the video showed the car being seized - to hide that there was time to plant evidence.
▪︎ Proctor passed 2 MSP sallyports & towed Karen's car to the (further) CPD sally port - 3 mins from the crime scene - to enable the planting of evidence. He took the car to CPD after they were recused due to a conflict of interest (Brian's brother was a CPD cop).
▪︎ Bukhenik testified the sallyport video was a true & accurate depiction, when it was actually inverted. His lie impacted the jury's perception of key evidence & mislead them by concealing that Proctor was knelt down behind the _passenger tail light_ outside the view of the camera - _after_ he said he never went near that tail light!
▪︎ Matt M. acted as a lookout, reporting back to Brian A. what police were doing. He also colluded regarding public statements & told Brian & Nicole via group text, "Tell them THE GUY never went in the house!" At the trial, he claimed "the guy" was a friend. Would anyone refer to a friend that way?
▪︎ Jen M. "went over the timeline" w/ Kerry Roberts before her interview & reported back to Brian Albert, in real time, what Kerry was telling police - (via text) "She's telling them EVERYTHING!! I love it!"
▪︎ Jen M. testified at the Federal Grand Jury about 12 things she heard Karen say. "I hit him" was NOT one of them. She only began saying that after a year passed & her 2:27am search became public.
▪︎ Allie M. lied about going "straight home" after taking Colin home. Life 360 showed she left Mr. Albert's, went to the school, and got home an hr later than she claimed.
▪︎ Plow driver didn't see a body in Brian A's yard @ 2:30am. He had a clear view of the yard from a high vantage point. He saw a Ford Edge at 3:30am exactly where John was found shortly after. The Edge was blocking the view of the camera across the street. Brian & Colin Albert both drove Edges.
▪︎ 8 witnesses passed the Alberts' yard after Karen dropped John off & all said they didn't see a body in the yard.
▪︎ DOJ got cell data nobody expected. Albert & Higgins had lied, claiming to be asleep before 2:22am. DOJ found Albert called Higgens @ 2:22, call was missed. Higgins called Albert back, call was answered, spoke for 20 secs. Caught in a lie & the best they could come up with was, "Gosh, I have no idea what happened, but I didn't talk to him! Musta been a butt dial?"
▪︎ Albert & Higgins destroyed their phones 1 day before the Court issued an injunction protecting the phones as evidence. Almost like they were tipped off!
▪︎ Cell records prove Jen M. googled, "Hos long to die in cold" at 2:27am (& deleted it). Vanity Fair hired an independent expert to review testimony from the CW & Defense experts. He agreed w/ the Defense, that the 2:27am search occurred at 2:27am. Defense's expert was independently hired by DOJ. Jen also deleted multiple, back-to-back calls to John's phone as they tried to locate it around 12:50am.
▪︎ Jen & Kerry spent 1 hr at Srg. Lank's (lead investigator from CPD) the day after John died & never disclosed it. Seriously, how many coincidences do the McAlberts think ppl will believe?
▪︎ Proctor lied abt his family's decades-long relationship w/ the McAlberts to the grand jury & prosecutors. That relationship created a conflict of interest, as it prohibited him from investigating them like the suspects they _should've_ been.
▪︎ Higgins went to CPD at 1am after a night of drinking & spent the next day there on his day off. He doesn't even work there - he works for ATF! He monitored the investigation & diverted suspicion from himself & the Alberts.
▪︎ Brian A. replaced the basement floor after John's death, got rid of the family dog (as John's arm had dog bite & scratch marks on it) & sold his home for under market value - destroying evidence.
▪︎ Videos that proved what really happened disappeared after Proctor got his hands on them. No Ring footage was sought by police from Fairview Rd. 45 mins of footage was missing from sallyport video during the time when Karen's car arrived. 3 mins of footage missing from Library camera. Proctor never took a photo of the car before bringing it to CPD. Insane! Ring said Karen Read didn't access John's Ring system. Proctor was the only one who had access.
▪︎ Chris, Julie & Colin all lied abt what time they got home & got caught in the lie on cross.
▪︎ The Waterfall video shows Higgins angrily taunting John, motioning "come here" before he left. Chris Albert grabbed his arm to hold him back.
★ See "Microdots" channel for masterful visual depictions of how this cover-up was executed.
@@stevenprice6957 you troll saying the same thing over and over and you're wrong every time you say it. They looked at all the evidence, it's called physics, I don't even know where you are getting this weird notion, because it isn't from watching the trial, which I encourage you to do.
@@BubblingRelicsYou flog. Good fairy stories. . Golden books.
Probably was pissed she had to go take of his niece and nephew while he parties all the time
There are two front doors at the Fairview house. One door is also considered a side door even though it's a front door too..
She never rules from the bench - even when the ruling is easy - because she needs to consult with the puppet master first for instruction.
I think she did rule from the bench a couple of times to the detriment of the defence.
They have all her phone records from Verizon and her phone still. And she didn’t call her parents until after they found John dead
She tried to call early am, parents did not answer.
What a quack of a prosecutor! His case is based on inferences not evidences or facts.
He's a pro at defending the mobsters, and he's STILL defending the mobsters!
@@MamaPinks Yes it feels as a kind of revenge for Brennan, because he lost his famous case with mob White Bulger because of the Feds then too. ( He will now again loose the trial, because the FED has everything and knows she is innocent..
Free Karen read and true justice for Jon Okeefe
You can’t have both.
I'm aghast that a man of apparently good standing in the profession is prepared to argue that calling one's parents whilst under stress implies guilt.
@@adele-marievida718 did you not listen? Absolutely no one said calling her parents means she is guilty.
@@lisamcclendon2720 I said prepared to. It appears that this fishing expedition is to establish that she never usually rang her parents at that time of night.
Why is that relevant if he doesn't want to use it that way?
I doubt that she normally calls her parents at 4:30. This was a disturbing night for her; she thought he was cheating on her, he was missing, she knew something was wrong.
THIS! Thank you, yeah she thought it was a breakup level event evening of him ghosting. very upset, children involved, it's so hard! I feel her.
Karen's unanswered 1:30am call to her mom was more likely a butt-dial than anything else. If Brennan's theory was correct, and she panicked after "hitting someone with her car," there would've been more than 1, isolated, call...right?
Let's see how common it was for the 2 Brians to "butt-dial" each other after 2am, because the fact they never called each other before could really lend credibility to the Defense's theory,
@@WhackjobSeaward Good point.
No Peter! You ended it at the spiciest bit! Lmao, the defence wants any communication from DA to Bev about this case 👀
Why are they allowed to have that?
@@HeatherMax22it’s called discovery
@@HeatherMax22 Because it is relevant. It is entirely improper and would get the judge recused from the case (which they would want, as she has shown bias in favour of the prosecution). It works also enable them to call the DA as a witness and question him about his attempts to influence the prosecution of Karen Read, supporting the defence's case that she was framed.
@ how did they find out about the auto delete?
@ not sure if you are being snarky. If so, it isn’t necessary. I know what discovery is but I did not know it was common to get DA texts and emails.
There is no cameras or witnesses that said she hit him. Also no one saw him on the lawn after she left
Nobody saw him at the car. Nagel and the female passenger in that car said KR was sitting in her car alone.
@ they passed her going to Albert’s even let her go first heather said two people in car then. When they pulled up behind Karen she was in driver’s seat with dome light on but no one else in car and no body on ground and we know that yard in front is small so John was in that house
Seems like we're all in agreement here. Nobody saw him in the car with Karen, or on the lawn after Karen left. John was in the basement until 4am.
@@WhackjobSeaward[theory/opinion/allegedlyyyy]
I think things went out of control at the party and he got in a fight with someone there. The dog must have attacked him around that time. It does not seem unlikely that if he had to fight off the dog to get it off him, that someone would have hit him on the head with something to stop him from hurting it. Its crazy how quickly things can escalade. With the way every one seemed to rally and team up, it could have been a group attack, a young adult or the group ´leader’ giving the final blow, someone they would want to protect at all costs, even be willing to throw an innocent in prison for. (The house remodeling and selling with no evidence even gathered there, the phones emptied/lost, the dog given to someone out of state…. it makes no sense that the house was not searched right away…he was heading to a party there! Of course you search it to check if he made it or not, not base it solely on the words of those in the house 🤦🏻♀️)
Theoreticaly, if everrrr Karen killed him… based on his injuries, it was not with the car. (I don’t know why they keep insisting on it. maybe they thought they could convince her she did it by accident…. anyways) she could have killed him there by hitting him on the head with an object and leaving him there. The dog could have bit him when they let it go out to pee… …. its all unlikely though.
It is also possible that they kicked him out when he was still alive, but beaten up after the altercation. They figured he would call his girlfriend or what not but he just stayed there… and they started to be scared he had died. (Which would explain the search for ´how long to die hypothermia’) One is not likely to search that if he is already dead.
Question: did his coat have the marks, or just his arms and regular clothing?
The new Prosecutor appears measured ,controlled and far more thorough than the last
It's wrong and frankly, insulting, to suggest her saying that in any way meant a person, she meant the vehicle for gods sake. This is embarrassing for that lawyer
I love listening to you Peter what a teacher you are
"Discrepancies" versus ARCA experts - John's injuries inconsistent with being hit by a car'; car damage inconsistent with hitting John mmmm what a mystery!!! SMH
Something I hadn't thought about-Did I miss something? Didn't he have a coat on? I believe a dog biting thru a coat after seeing the pics. And where is the coat? It was winter in MA in a snowstorm🤷♀️
@@suezmac3803He did not wear a coat. He had on a long sleeve shirt.
She could have struck him by accident.. he lay out there.. the others let their dog out at some point for the toilet (as often happens) dog finds John, dog bites/tries to drag John. Then the McAlberts or whoever see this and panic, they’ll panic they’ll get the blame.. so they go inside and wait to double down on Karen .. which is why they look so sus
@@lizzieyourdi4074 And you find all that more plausible than the physics? 🤦🏻♀️
@@lizzieyourdi4074 In this delusional scenario, why didn’t they just help John? A first responder didn’t respond to an “accident” on his lawn? Not based in reality.
I agree with drunk and mad. If they broke up in the car, I’d be upset and call someone I trust
I didn’t even know you could set your texts to auto delete like that
I love you are trying your level best to be fair. Thank you. That’s why I watch you.
There are two front doors of the house
The judge asked the prosecutor “couldn’t you get that info from Ms Read’s phone”? He replied he could not but wasn’t specific about why. He said something about 2 search warrants but I couldn’t hear what he said. Of course they could get that info from her records - it’s her phone to their phones, so what would be different?
They had KR's cell phone, and her Verizon records. I think they were the 2 search warrants.
Karen's unanswered 1:30am call to her mom was more likely a butt-dial than anything else. If Brennan's theory was correct, and she panicked after "hitting someone with her car," there would've been more than 1, isolated, call...right?
Let's see how common it was for the 2 Brians to "butt-dial" each other after 2am, because the fact they never called each other before could really lend credibility to the Defense's theory,
I don't tune in regularly...but when I do? I appreciate...your diplomacy!
There are two front doors at 34 Fairview! Look it up
I love the lawyer that we all know. I love your channel. Keep up the great work. You are a real lawyer that’s why I like you.
They made this argument in the first trial...why do they need more discovery for this?
To me, it came off as she was trying to vent to her mom (she thought John was out cheating) and when her mom didn't answer she called her dad's phone trying to get her mom.
If my bf stayed out all night and didn't come home when he knew that I was planning to go home, I would have said a lot worse than Karen. I thought she was being quite polite with him. The dtr was there and could not leave her alone. She called her mom for advice.
Really looking forward to seeing Alan Jackson in action again ❤
Chucky. He defends monsters often Karen is definitely one of them 😊
No moderators on this channel .🙄😖
@@stevenprice6957Trolling Karen is not the purpose here.
I’m so grateful for your lives. You explain everything so well.
The search should encompass to all of their known argument. They were known to argue. If I was hysteric over an argument then ya I’d call my parents in the middle of the night but maybe I’m just close to them idk
Newsflash!!! A Sheriff's deputy is not the person who monitors house arrest detainees! The person responsible for ankle monitoring devices, scheduling, surveillance is hired thru the community corrections division. They work in conjunction with the prosecutors office. Not the Sheriff
Defense attorney: “it’s probably best to not mention sipping a drink at all in an interview knowing how the CW likes to make a mountain out of a mole hill”
Commonwealth: “judge the defense attorney in that interview is the only reason the defendant didn’t finish her statement which would have most definitely been her making a full confession and describing in detail how she hit him in reverse, put it in drive, hit him again; and then put in in reverse and hitting him a third time before driving off and calling her parents.
What a joke the commonwealth is 🤦🤦♀️🤦♂️
The joke is the people who believe Karen is innocent. It’s hilarious
Yeah! And Judge Canone should sit on the US Supreme Court, and Trooper Proctor should be the Head of the FBI. 😂😂😂😂😂
@@stevenprice6957here's Steven again, being wrong and simple. No Steve, you're incorrect, still.
@@BubblingRelicsthere’s flog once again. Having no idea.
@@stevenprice6957 you can't honestly debate the facts & evidence because you're wrong, lot of doubt you could grasp concepts of justice at all with how you spew your idiocy. Being factually wrong must be depressing, cheer up little fella.
Intimidation of witnesses shouldn’t be happening BUT a good thorough neutral investigation from the start should of had…IMO.
Yanetti is fire 🔥. Aunt Bev? Any communications with your half brother that’s relevant to this case?
Peter, as a government employee, we need to keep records for 7 years for open records requests.