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We didn't mention it in the video, but it's worth pointing out that this has the 1080p 120p slow motion mode with no crop & full AF, same as the 1dx II had, but it is now 10 bit 4.2.2 HEVC All-I at 470Mbps
Carl
it seems great
Nice. I don't think even the C500mk2 has full AF at those settings.
Как тебе такое, Илон Маск?
Project Definition it does
Compare it with other cameras
Probably the most informative video about the video capabilities of this camera. THANK YOU!
Thanks for watching!
Carl
indeed
Definitely the best and most informative video I’ve seen on the Mark iii I can’t wait to rent this one out
The heir to the 5DmkII. Though they had to bring something over from the 1DXmkII, huge file sizes. This time it's the RAW, so definitely worth it when ultimate flexibility is needed. This and the S1H are really pushing the boundaries for hybrid shooters! Never going to afford one, but what an incredible tool.
Well done. Thank you for letting us know about the recording limit. Great information as always. Have a nice day.
Thanks for watching!
Carl
However if you dont go touch any of the camera buttons it will go to sleep and the external recording will record... well nothing. So in a way the camera can not be unmanned unless you figure out to press a button every now and then.
Beast of a camera! Excellent review!
As a C200 owner, the 1DXiii ticks all the boxes for me as a b-cam, gimbal, travel and nasty weather cam. I can’t wait for mine
Absolutely, gives you the choice of the right tool for each situation
Carl
Β-cam? This is better than your C-200 , almost C-500 level :) ... Enjoy it
@@johnfragos7660 if it had built in ND and dual XLR, I would agree, but image isn't everything and it by no means can replace the C200 :)
Tyler Edwards - Having never got into the habit of trusting a cameras preamp, I could certainly see preferring this as an A cam. But Yea built in NDs are cool.
Thanks Carl for answering the crop factor in 4K 60fps mode with AF still on! I saw some reviews say it was 1.5x instead of 1.27x, and I was wondering why that number was different than the 1Dx II. However, I am stoked it's only 1.27x to match my lenses on the mark II!
Next 5 years for Canon, again💪
thank you for explaining the video modes and frame rate/dual AF limitations. much clearer. when the menu item shows 4k-D, is that signifying c -log mode?
Very nice video.
I was really surprised that this ideal sports camera has so much high quality video capabilities.
Same, I really was not expecting this many video features. A very welcome surprise!
Carl
Speaking of video auto-focus capabilities can you put the 1DX Mark III on a tripod with face tracking enabled then hit record ,walk around in front of the camera and the auto focus track you or must you first select what you want tracked with the touch screen? That would largely determine whether it is a good camera to use without a camera person (or additional monitor) since you can't see the rear screen from in front of the camera.
5:55 Thanks a ton for mentioning that. It seems almost nobody is mentioning when specifically autofocus cannot be used
Good job canon, quite an interesting piece of gear for sure !!
Great vid! After watching it, I’m trying to decide between 1DX Mk3 and R5. I most shoot photos and not much video. I usually shoot events, so very dark places and people moving fast. With my 6Dii, 5 out of 10 shots are blurred & can’t use them. If money is not an issue, which one do u think is better?
great video! just wanna clarify, in raw recording, u will have af at full frame up to 30p in all resolutions and also, u will get af at 60p in crop mode is that right? it seems like a crazy video camera that also takes great pictures. haha
thanks for sharing , very detailed and clear. just wanna know hos 1080 deal , like video compression method? quality ? is anyway to bypass the no audio recording like using external Ninja + audio input ? this 1080 120p no audio really sucks
@ProAV TV
first of all, I would really like to thank you for making this video, I was looking to know more about the video Features of this camera and finally I got the answer, but I have 1 question and until know I'm still so convulsion ....
If you have the choice to choose between this camera and canon C300 for video thing as a video production, which one you gonna choose?
I hope to answer me because this is a really important decision in my life
thanks in advance
Circa 1:05: 5.5K RAW @24/25/30P with Dual-Pixel AF? I hope I heard it right!
In addition: 4K 60P with DPAF at 1.3x crop, as well as 2K 120P at full width of sensor! Whoa!
Yes you heard right.
And DPAF in the 2k 120p as well
Carl
Thanks for the useful informations
Thanks for watching!
Carl
Question for ProTV: I'm wondering if there is a 1080p @ 60 fps that is full frame and includes full auto focus? Thanks for an excellent review and the video capabilities of this cam. Thank you.
Yes there is. No problem, thanks for watching!
Carl
Canon had a very interesting odyssey when talking about recording media. Going from CF to SD, C-Fast and now CFexpress in less than 7 years So if I upgrade from my C100 to C200... I have to upgrade media, and now... If I'll chose 1DX... I'll have to go with CFexpress. How expensive is this transition? However, from the filmmakers point of view, Sony seems to make better hybrid cameras. It would be nice if 1DX had at least one mini XLR for audio. Lets see how the next A7s specifications will look like. But this seems to be a tough camera meant for professional use.
My question: is its RAW image quality better than cinema raw light of c200 or c500 mk2?
Hey Carl. Can you still record in Canon Log when outputting to an external recorder like the shogun inferno?
Wooow Canon Actually came out punch. This new Digic X processor is a good sign to come for RF Mirrorless body
Absolutely!
They have said they are working on a pro mirrorless camera to sit above the EOS R, so it will be very interesting to see what features from this they bring to that camera
Carl
@@ProAVTV the pressure on the A7siii is very much real now. Well done Canon. Thanks for the reply and great coverage as always
@@LoverOfTech Sony would have to make the A7sIII MUCH larger physically than the A7s II to get anywhere close to the capability of this. Will be very interesting to see what they do.
Carl
I really hope so. There is still no equivalent zoom lens to the 28-70mm f2 RF for any other system or format. And 28, 50, and 70mm FF-eqv are three of my favorite focal lengths on which I can shoot over 80% of my work with.
@@ProAVTV very true and also with Sony Ethos on Mirrorless being smaller, unless they is a vent yea the processors are very efficient then I'll have to agree. Again well done Canon so far. Ben
Whats the the dynamic range like compared to the Canon C200? I am thinking about getting this as a b cam. Also when shooting raw can you edit it in clog 2 or clog 3 in Davinci Resolve or are you stuck in clog?
can you scrub 120 fps on playback using the touch screen?
Two questions:
1. Is the AF so good that you don’t feel the need for focus assist options?
2. Any info on audio recording features and quality, for professional video use?
boroc7 I forget which reviewer said it but they noted that the noise floor was significantly lower. That being said, I’m not sure if Canon use better preamps, recorded with increased bit depth, or both.
Can you record 4K 10bit to both cards simultaneously, or is it just a proxy while RAW recording?
Should I choose the Canon 1DX MK III for video work over Sony A7III if I already had a Canon 6D MK II and a Canon 16-35mm F2.8 IS III lens ?
This is WOW! I wish to bag this one haha 🤗😅🥰
Thanks Carl. What i was thinking is for a small production company - what might be the best 1080p IQ camera now - 1dx2, 1dx3, c100-2 or c200. (weddings, interviews, birthdays).
I want to move away from 4k, almost no one from my clients, for now, even thinks about it.
Interesting one, for weddings, interviews and birthdays specifically, I would probably take an EOS R over those to be honest.
Carl
a dream cameras for adventures
Great video guys! What about High Frame Rate recording in 2k?
It’s the same as the mark 2, 120p 1080p with full AF but now in 10 bit 4.2.2 HEVC files
Carl
Wish I had one I think it is the best camera out there just my opinion
Great Review!
Thanks!
Carl
For the first time in a long, long time Canon exceeded expectations. Was not expecting 12-bit RAW. The media costs for shooting RAW are going to be insane though, you only get 4 minutes per 64GB at 5.5K-24/30, and a 128GB CFExpress costs $200.
Edit: apparently it will output RAW through HDMI so wont be too bad in terms of storage costs.
I’m thinking about coupling it with the Black Magic Video Assist 4K.
BRAW is insanely gorgeous and low on data.
I heard it only outputs 10bit over hdmi
Canon Rocks
okay... Q: so you use the new mouse to move the focus point - you cannot then simply press the button like an regular AF-On / Backbutton focus?
I assumed you could tell the camera to use all focus points selected to start tracking in Auto... this is what you do w/ the 1DX2. You move the joystick to move your focus point to a selected point, press it in Auto, and that's where it starts tracking.
Can you no longer do this because of the new AF-On mouse implementation?
thanks
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This is crazy. And crazy expensive too.
What about the dynamic range ? Both in photo and video.
Would love to see low light capabilities in real world, at least if it is significantly improved.
My question is does Canon allow you to coupled it with the Black Magic Video Assist 4K? I love BRaw and would love to have a dual af full frame raw shooting camera. If so I would buy this camera the second it drops.
The HDMI out isn’t a raw signal. So it would be recorded by the video assists, but not as Blackmagic raw.
Carl
ProAV TV Very sad to hear. Thanks Carl! LovedYour black magic pocket 4K review. Awesome channel
Gearing up to be a great DSLR. Stellar stills camera & great video improvements over 1dxm2. But that price!? Ouch.
The 1DX2 wan't exactly cheap when it was announced either.
This is a "Best performance no matter the price" kind of camera really.
Carl
Canon are starting the year strong. Can't wait to see that the competition does about this!
They sure are!
Carl
really hope Sony has a competitive answer to not just this (unlikely, 1DX3 is a beast!) but also the X-T3 this year...
Hindi me samjhao ki kya kehna chahte ho.?
Clicks on Canon video......mentions Sony
is the codec easy enough to import & edit in premiere pro?
If they can give us UHD 4k 60p with AF (and 1.5 crop, that's fine) then I'm interested. Only DCI 4k 60p cropped for AF just isn't gonna cut it for me with that price tag. Not trying to go crop and recompose each slow motion shot to have af.
How would this compare to the C200 when it comes to the RAW codec. I know the C200 shoots 12 bit raw at 30 frames per second.
It's a slightly different implementation of the raw codec, so we will have to wait and see really. But interestingly the 1DX III is 12 bit in both 30/25p and 60/50p wheras the C200 drops to 10 bit in 60/50p
Carl
Great video. How about dynamic range and low light capabilities?
Didn't get a chance to test either i'm afraid as we only had one morning with it. Low light is meant to be improved though, but no word on DR
Carl
ProAV TV thanks for that quick reply & I really love your channel.
Great to hear! Thanks for watching
Carl
This looks like a beast. Would you say that at the same price point of the Canon C200 you will get better images out of this? Also is this going to subclass the C200 if one doesn't want to shoot raw, since it has the 10 bit 422 files?
Potentially, it would be interesting to put them side by side. there’s lots more going on than just image quality though, they are completely different ergonomics
Carl
@@ProAVTV Yeah the ergonomics is a "big down" for DSLR type cameras, that is why i was asking primarily for image quality.
If the C200 would have the 10 bit codec i wouldn't really care about the 5.5K and care relatively little about the sensor size, but that full sensor + 10 bit non raw + 5.5K + that price... it all surely makes it quite interesting despite the ergonomics.
I truly hope that when this camera becomes available you will indeed make some comparison with the C200 and, why not, with the C500 as well.
Thanks for the great contents as usual.
Is there any focus guide like on the C500 mkII? The thing with the three triangles
Manual assist? Yep
Thanks for focusing on the video specs. I'm assuming there is a legal or technical reason you can't show us any footage. Looking forward to seeing some raw that has been heavily graded.
The reason we haven't shown any footage from the camera is that we only had a few hours with it to make this video so didn't really have the time to shoot anything with it really. Once we get our hands back on it we'll be sure to share some footage.
Dan
You didnt mention the screen. Because you got no evf, you have to use that. I think this makes this camera not good for handheld work, because holding it in front of your face, makes it really unstable. With my gh5 i was really impressed hot good it is for those qick, statik b roll shots, where i don´t find me using a tripod anymore.
Canon saw Blackmagic 12bit raw and said, "Well, guess we have to flex our mussels."
Don't know if canon can produce the same dynamic range and recording time as the blackmagic, but its auto focus and battery life sure make it a big competitor in my opinion.
Record Time probably not also keep in mind there is a 30 min record limit on this camera.
But remember with raw, depending on the NLE you use, you can access other log profiles (like c-log2 and clog3) which can offer greater dynamic range if the sensor can handle it. A good indication will be how good the stills DR will be
I’m curious to know if it will work with the BMVA 4K.
To be fair tho you can buy like 2 bmpcc 6k’s and have $1000 leftover for lenses
Jered Harris yeah but you then have to buy battery alternatives cages 2 external monitors focus pulls. There’s a lot of external features to make the 6ks viable options much more than the 1DX mark iii. This is coming from a pocket 6K owner.
James Jackson Films Very true, it all just depends on what type of setup you’re looking for!
How bright can the rear LCD screen go?
rolling shutter，Please 👍
Very informative. Cheers!
Thanks for watching!
Carl
First of all congratulations for the nice job you 're doing!
I am curious if Canon mentioned (or if you asked them) if there is a possibility to include dual pixel autofocus in 4K 60P in a future firmware update, or this is not an option at all for this processor -or for not effecting an cinema line sales-.
Also the same question goes for the lack of sound recording in 120fps FHD mode.
I doubt it on the AF in 4K 60p. If canon could do that they would have included it out of the box. They rarely bring big new features like that in firmware.
Not sure about the 120p sound recording though.
Carl
@@ProAVTV To be honest it was my thought either.
Still though, it is a great camera.
Looking forward for you to take it on the field!
Thank you once again.
Hi I've rented the 1DX III and FCPX 10.4.8 running Mojave + Canon 1.3 Plug In for FCP
The RAW files are unrecognized. How do you convert them?
DEC
Did autofocus work on 4k raw 24 frame ?
Any opinion on how good the electronic sensor stabilisation is?
It's pretty much the same as it is on the EOS R
Carl
I heard that the RAW capabilities aren’t what people think, like it’s not true RAW like you would get with the C200. You can adjust the white balance and different things in post. Also I heard that the Canon Log they have within this camera is more like the Canon Log in the Canon EOS R, and not the C200. On top of that you can’t open the “RAW” in Adobe Premier either, only Final Cut and Avid.
Its a new raw format, the camera isn't even released yet. It's to early to know what software companies will be able to do with it. I'm sure they will increase support in time.
Carl
ProAV TV that’s fair. But Canon always make the perfect camera, but finds some type of was to screw it up.
How many dynamics Range does this camera have when you’re on video mode?
They haven't specified.
Carl
12 stops without C-Log (specified in white paper for video), in C-log for sure more (probably 14-15, but we will see soon)
Maxim Horoshilov Canon has been known to reach for those 14-15 stops. Real world seems to be around 12 with the EOS R (4K 10-bit 422) but we’ll see with the 1Dx3.
I currently own an 80D and I'm ready to jump to a professional camera. I mainly work as a videographer (I do photography as well), would you recommend getting the 1DX MKIII or wait to see what Canon adds no the next EOS R?
Depends on how quickly do you want to upgrade
Your number 1 question should be. Do you really want to keep the dslr form factor? Maybe an Ursa mini pro is better suited for someone who mainly does videography.
wish it had en evf for video (I guess just have to shell out for c200 or c500 mkii). is there a cropped raw 4k 50p with dual pixel af
It works in 4k60 in the 1.3x crop mode just not full sensor mode.
Yes, AF works in mp4 4K 60p if you enable the 1.3x crop.
Carl
Can you use AF while using C-Log because on my 1DC you can't.
Using C-Log doesn't effect the autofocus, so you can use them both at the same time.
Dan
Do you think it'd be possible to enable Dual Pixel AF in non cropped 4K and even the 5.5K RAW at 50 and 60 FPS in a firmware update?
I doubt it. From what I know about Canon, if they could have done that at launch they would have.
Carl
ProAV TV most likely. Thank you for the response.
Wow, I used to hate on Canon but this one is a beast. Sony A7S3 better be good and come fast otherwise I might switch back to Canon
How are the assists? Audio meters, waveform, peaking, punch in while recording?
There is peaking and audio meters. No waveform or punch in while recording though
Carl
ProAV TV ouch.
Is there any definite information about the resolution and frame rate of the HDMI output?
According to Canon's website : "RAW video at 5.5K (12-bit) can be recorded right onto the CFexpress card, or to external recorders via HDMI, at up to 60p"
@@timelapsega Thanks! That prompted me to look for myself and it does state 4K60p output in 4:2:2, 10-bit!
Shaping up to be an awesome B-Cam for the C500Mk2!
Wow Canon! Really did it this time!
No low light mention ?
Does it have View Assist / 709 monitoring when shooting in clog?
Yes it does
Carl
Can you record 4K 60p in crop mode with DPAF? If so, what is the bit rate?
Yes you can.
Yes you can in MP4.
Bit rate is 1000 Mbps for All-I & 340Mbps for IPB
Carl
Does it record audio at 120fps?
Can you shoot video through the viewfinder? Or is it liveview only?
No, as it is a DSLR the view finder won’t work in video mode.
Carl
@@ProAVTV Yeah, that was what I thought. Thanks.
Question: What is the Ethernet port used for?
Most likely for remote control for broadcast work or live-streaming
I can see adding a monitor on top of this,my back hurts just thinking about it.
If any one is thinking of getting it for video primarily, I think you are better off getting a c200 as it's almost in the same price range and a dedicated video camera with better video capabilities.. For hybrid shooters, it's pretty sick 🤙. But its still a dslr, if only Canon could aplly this technology in a mirrorless camera, it would have changed the game.
Yes your right, for lots of work the C200 would be a better choice. It's what it is designed for after all. But the size and weather sealing of the 1DX will mean for some work it is the best choice out there. Plus the stills side of the camera of course.
Carl
The HEVC is H.265 correct?
Yes it is.
Dan
I would have loved it if they removed all the photo features, replaced them with built in ND's and dual xlr ports, and then called it a C100 mkiii... Still, this does seems impressive.
indeed
Does this camera shoot UHD uncropped at a 23.98 frame rate?
It does indeed.
Dan
good~!^^*
I am professional cat photographer since 2003. Is this camera OK with cat photography?
Yes, this would be more than capable of cat photography
Carl
Did you try the digital IS?
A little, it’s the same system as the eos r and c500II
Carl
@@ProAVTV Thanks for that, that will make a big difference - keep up the good work.
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Dynamic range?
It's improved, but we don't know by how much
I was hoping it would be better than the Panasonic s1H, but the specs are so far behind Panasonic I cant justify the extra cost. The 1Dx3 i's not even Netflix compatible.
Netflix certification takes some time, they have to test it and this camera isn't even released yet.
Carl
@@ProAVTV if you go to Netflix website it's listed as approved already.
I will get one ..when and if I win the lottery.. till then its a 7D mK IIfor now
12 bit internal but 10 bit extrenal ? shame ... again new CF version :( why not usb C ? to external SSD like blackmagic...
After looking at the C300 m kII for a project this year, the 1DX mk III makes a compelling case for investigating. I do like the cinema DPAF as a one man operator and the 1DX mk III appears to degrade that a little. Built in ND and XLR jacks are the real deal breaker, but the 1DX MK III as a back up (Or high speed action) stills camera is definitely worth considering. Looking for a 1DX mk III vs C300 mk II comparison from video point of view :)
Mark Thompson C300mk II is pretty ancient at this standpoint, and designed for very different users. Apples and oranges, you aren’t going to see anyone doing comparisons w a C300mk II.
@@morningtidefilms The C300 mk II is definitely an older model now, but as a video camera I think it still has some advantages over the 1DX mk III when the main objective is video film making. When it comes to apples and oranges, video and photography, I'm really wanting to know if video film makers would consider the 1DX mk III over any of the Canon Cinema video cameras? What the workflow tradeoffs would be like given that they are apples and oranges.
As an SLR for photography there is no question that this will be an epic performer. And a welcome addition to my photography kit, doing all the things my Hasselblad can't do!
Mark Thompson of course it does, it’s a proper film camera. No veteran filmmaker would consider the 1DX Mk III as their only camera, over a cinema camera. But different jobs and projects require different tools.
No autofocus for video?
Yes there is. It’s canons full Dual Pixel AF system like on their cinema EOS cameras
Carl
I need to find some old sugar mommas in nyc that need some company. If you know any send them my way please, will travel. Not kidding either
Fred right! Gotta get this $6,500 some way
This vs c200, where would you go?
CFExpress 1700m/s read and 1200m/s write
I thought it was only good for stills. I could easily get this but I’m too invested in Sony mirrorless and Fujifilm
This feels like a bit of a stomach punch to the fx9 outside of broadcast.
Yes and no, its hard to compare cameras with a video style of ergonomics and ones with a DSLR form factor.
Carl
@@ProAVTV I was more thinking image quality than form factor. This has true 24p, internal raw, resolution above 4k and full frame 4k 60, while I believe the fx9 has none of these. And at a much lower price. With a free sports camera built in. That's not a small or insignificant list.
@@GBftw
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Why would anyone need more than 29 minutes at a time? I use cameras for video all the time, and the longest shots I take are at the most ten minutes before I cut and set up the next shot.