What Happens in the Real World If You Find a Buried Treasure?

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  • @dickdastardly4236
    @dickdastardly4236 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1039

    "Family heirloom" is the proper response when asked where you got something.

    • @nojnavick
      @nojnavick 3 ปีที่แล้ว +132

      Why do you have the crown jewels?
      Family heirloom of course

    • @itachisdisciple
      @itachisdisciple 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      It was passed down through generations of my family your honour 😏

    • @dickdastardly4236
      @dickdastardly4236 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@nojnavick
      Pretty sure they know where those are.

    • @bmora2133
      @bmora2133 3 ปีที่แล้ว +105

      And if somebody asks or thinks that's too strange I'd reply " well I never specified who's family it was an heirloom for".

    • @louiswilkins9624
      @louiswilkins9624 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Correct

  • @chipparmley
    @chipparmley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +752

    With all these laws in place, you have to wonder how many "lost" treasures have been found, but just never reported.

    • @fdny4891
      @fdny4891 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      Hopefully many

    • @peterkoller3761
      @peterkoller3761 3 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      one example from Austria: the last year metal detecting was legal everywhere in Austria and you had a claim to own the objects, over 42000 found coins were reported - the first year it was more or less illegal, under 300 coins were reported.

    • @patpowers9210
      @patpowers9210 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      The state confiscating treasure is incredibly stupid: of course it discourages treasure finders from reporting their finds. The UK system makes a LOT more sense.

    • @philastley8040
      @philastley8040 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      @@patpowers9210 I have never found anything of worth but I do like our system in the UK, pretty much it does work, you declare it, you get full monetary value legally from the British Museum/ government, which works especially as the goal is money after all for many :)
      Keeping it for yourself runs risks, as especially you cannot report it if stolen.....

    • @patpowers9210
      @patpowers9210 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      @@philastley8040 Keeping it for yourself runs risks, but in much of the US, reporting it creates a virtual certainty that you will lose.

  • @vr6swp
    @vr6swp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +197

    People who know how to keep their mouths shut can get away with a lot

    • @NateSceneTV
      @NateSceneTV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yep

    • @philastley8040
      @philastley8040 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Maybe in other countries, but as Simon stated, our country (UK- England) is generous to us, not stealing it but well, a forced buy but millions in your bank and fame. Decisions decisions....

    • @outofcontext728
      @outofcontext728 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@philastley8040 well not here in the us

    • @philastley8040
      @philastley8040 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@outofcontext728 US laws are weird, liberty and freedom for all, unless you find something we want then fuck you lol
      In England it gets taken by the crown as is the law, but you do get fully compensated for it and the choice is hiding it in a cupboard for decades on the risk of losing it vs potentially hundreds of thousands of pounds and seeing it displayed in a museum, I am not sure of the laws but I think the finders get to see it up close and personally while they are doing their research.
      SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!

    • @edennis8578
      @edennis8578 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@philastley8040 The people who still believe that the US is a free country have #1. not come into the notice of a bureaucrat somewhere or #2. haven't been through the covid panic. Covid pretty much exposed how little control the average person has in political decisions. Or any decisions.

  • @parisite99
    @parisite99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +287

    Government: “No you don’t get to keep the treasure you find, we NEED it for research.”
    Also Government: “Which one of you museums want to buy this piece from us?”

    • @merrymachiavelli2041
      @merrymachiavelli2041 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      If your point is about governments being greedy, okay, but given that lots of archeological research goes on through museums, it's not actually like the government would be lying?

    • @hypoaktivnaovca
      @hypoaktivnaovca 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@dimapez To incentivise people to sell to science, rather than to scrap metal dealers, probably.

    • @Sunrie
      @Sunrie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Museums don't buy, they take donations

    • @rattyratstuff7125
      @rattyratstuff7125 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dimapez so basically "no treasure has ever been found by the fins"

  • @MarkRVillano
    @MarkRVillano 3 ปีที่แล้ว +329

    In the "real world" if you find buried treasure, you keep your big mouth shut about it while you look for an equally closed mouth buyer.

    • @SBaby
      @SBaby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Sell it one piece at a time to a collector and say it's a family heirloom. I usually say it's from the War of 1812 (the suppression of history by politicians has its advantages). Also, HIDE THE LOOT! Hide it where only YOU know where it is. And never tell them you have more. There's a reason it's called 'buried treasure'.

    • @B-Roll_Gaming
      @B-Roll_Gaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@SBaby What do you mean "usually"?

    • @brendancundy7682
      @brendancundy7682 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SBaby cooool :) *wink*

  • @Onethirtytwo
    @Onethirtytwo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    Lionel Hutz: It's a thorny legal issue, all right. I'll need to refer to the case of Finders v. Keepers.

  • @eyekeepsitreal684
    @eyekeepsitreal684 3 ปีที่แล้ว +406

    In the real world, finding buried treasure = “what buried treasure?”

    • @mybackhurts7020
      @mybackhurts7020 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly

    • @philastley8040
      @philastley8040 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @John Ashtone Exactly what I have posted throughout much of these comments, in England you are far better off declaring such finds because rather than being assholes the UK is actually surprisingly fair in this instance, yes....the government moves in and archaeological teams and what-not, but as the registered finder you are almost certainly awarded the value....hell, if choice was in selling an artifact black market for 30% of the value or 100% of the value I would choose the latter, especially since then it is fully legal even if you had to split it and only end up with 50% after a year of deliberation lol
      Even if you have to share the split with the landholder and you get less than you could off the black market, it is worth it because then you can then be free in the knowledge that the millions you got was all above board and no one can ever come next week and take it...
      Imagine this, you do your research, figure out an area was the site of a big battle, go through old records and long lost surveys and find out that oak tree has been around for centuries, you dig it up and end up with 100kg of gold. You 'steal' it from the landowner (which is rightfully his because you are digging up his land) and someone talks and you find your prize taken away....you get nothing. Contrast this with asking for permission from the landholder to split, (I don't know the law on this if they decide to disallow you and then dig it up themselves after you did all the research, would this be antitrust?) and then telling the authorities, and then you walk away with millions and fame.
      I would choose the second option, millions of pounds.
      Edit: slight typos for clarification

    • @lorenzo_br5803
      @lorenzo_br5803 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Outside of Britain, certainly! “My late great grandmother gave it to me!”

    • @matthewbenton4767
      @matthewbenton4767 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      if anything Americans see about European prisons is true, I would probably stab a guy but for extradition laws, 20 million in gold or just a bum, sorry bum guy

    • @merrymachiavelli2041
      @merrymachiavelli2041 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also, one thing that should be emphasised is that the vast majority of metal detectorists don't do it to get rich (which is just as well, given the odds of finding anything of value are very slim), they do it because they like history and finding tangible pieces of it is very rewarding. People interested in history are even more likely to find the idea of that history never being told tragic. I'm not saying some don't get greedy, but it's not something that metal detectorists generally approve of.

  • @davidroddick91
    @davidroddick91 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    At a Canadian battlefield from the War of 1812, it is illegal to dig in the park, but not in the woods behind the park. The park is manicured and sodded with dirt brought in from who-knows-where, so it contains absolutely no artifacts from the war. I used to "treasure hunt" in the woods, and the person I was with found two musketballs. He never reported them. He has since passed away, but I know that his family still has them.

    • @user-ov6jg4ug9d
      @user-ov6jg4ug9d 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Allegedly

    • @alisaurus4224
      @alisaurus4224 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Would those really be of any historical value? There must’ve been thousands of them from any given battlefield

    • @flyhard3388
      @flyhard3388 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-ov6jg4ug9d what are you a lawyer

    • @user-ov6jg4ug9d
      @user-ov6jg4ug9d 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@flyhard3388 Allegedly.

  • @dismothafuka405
    @dismothafuka405 3 ปีที่แล้ว +566

    If you find gold, oil, diamonds etc. On your property and the government finds out its the governments. If you find drugs or anything else illegal its yours.

    • @redlindholm8451
      @redlindholm8451 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Well put my friend. Thanks Uncle Sam

    • @lookingbehind6335
      @lookingbehind6335 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      It depends....make sure when you acquire the property that mineral rights are included.

    • @RealMisterDoge
      @RealMisterDoge 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@lookingbehind6335 good point man

    • @jeffreydavis2578
      @jeffreydavis2578 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      Bro if I find a fucking diamond or gold I ain’t telling anyone shit

    • @novaszim7902
      @novaszim7902 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      @@lookingbehind6335 the fact that “mineral rights” is a thing, is just sad! It also makes no sense! Because what’s the point of buying a plot of land if your not actually getting the plot of land. “Minerals” are part of the “land”. I’m surprised getting insurance for walking on the sidewalk isn’t a thing yet....

  • @kjs8719
    @kjs8719 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    When I was working as a rural fencer, I asked my boss what we do if we bring up gem stones with the auger.
    He said "we push them back down the hole, and I'll buy the property and pay you to help me dig it up instead of paying you to fence"

  • @donsample1002
    @donsample1002 3 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    Arthur C Clarke's diving partner discovered a sunken ship with a cargo of silver coins off the coast of Sri Lanka. He wrote a couple of books about it, and a couple of decades later he wrote a retrospective essay on the experience, in which he concluded that finding a sunken treasure was an experience he wouldn't wish on his worst enemy.

    • @philastley8040
      @philastley8040 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That lump of silver ended up on Pawn Stars I think lol

    • @Shachza
      @Shachza 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@philastley8040 Part of it did. If I recall correctly, the lump came up in three parts, with the Pawn Stars one being the smallest. And Pawn Stars was not willing to touch the thing anywhere near the amount the guy wanted for it, which made some wonder if that was the point. Getting your artifact on national television is great advertising...

    • @Redmenace96
      @Redmenace96 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Carl Fischer finding that Spanish galleon off of the Florida Keys said the same thing. His life moved into a courtroom, until death found him.

    • @Malhaloc
      @Malhaloc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Shachza Selling to a pawn shop is a terrible way to make money. They're a store for profit. They're not going to pay you the full value, in fact they're probably going to pay you less than half of what it's worth because they're going to resell it. People don't seem to understand that.

    • @dinoblacklane1640
      @dinoblacklane1640 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Malhaloc Pawn shops are good for if you need something moved fast and relatively hassle free

  • @MrTwotimess
    @MrTwotimess 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Many who found treasure melted them down for the gold, destroying the historical value. Governments shouldn't be so stingy when people find treasure.

  • @Midlife_Manical_Mayhem
    @Midlife_Manical_Mayhem 3 ปีที่แล้ว +241

    treasure hunter finds 100 gold debloons. reports to government that he found 50 gold debloons. newspaper reports: treasure hunter finds a gold debloon.

    • @fdny4891
      @fdny4891 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      If you're going to report anything at all, say you found two, offer one to government for museum, proceed to sell the other 98 one at a time.

    • @marcpeterson5115
      @marcpeterson5115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Doubloon

    • @Midlife_Manical_Mayhem
      @Midlife_Manical_Mayhem 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@marcpeterson5115 thanks. knew it was wrong (medical issues have caused spelling/neuro issues) and i was too lazy to look it up.

    • @marcpeterson5115
      @marcpeterson5115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Midlife_Manical_Mayhem Sorry for your troubles. I thought it was "dubloons", I had to look it up.

    • @Midlife_Manical_Mayhem
      @Midlife_Manical_Mayhem 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marcpeterson5115 thanks

  • @TooLameToDie
    @TooLameToDie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I practice the "finders keepers, losers weepers" law when it comes to found treasure.

  • @SecurityMonitorLizard
    @SecurityMonitorLizard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +136

    You can keep anything you find if you're cool about it.

    • @SFbayArea94121
      @SFbayArea94121 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Exactly, I ain’t tellin anyone shiet about what I find, from information to buried treasures or money that falls off a brinks armored truck.

    • @crimsoncarp6877
      @crimsoncarp6877 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey lizard... Where you live bud?

    • @FatCatCooper
      @FatCatCooper 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just shut up and keep quiet

    • @Youtubeforcedmetochangemyname
      @Youtubeforcedmetochangemyname 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And don't go blabbing all over

    • @STeve-bv1uk
      @STeve-bv1uk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Loose lips sink ships bud

  • @cjd2889
    @cjd2889 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Any "research" value that could possibly be extracted from a horde of gold coins can just as easily be extracted from a single one of those coins, or even a handful.

  • @s.armitage3963
    @s.armitage3963 3 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    If you find burried treasure, don't tell anyone. Sell each piece separately as parts of a collection that you've "acquired over the years".

    • @lorenzo_br5803
      @lorenzo_br5803 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Or just say a late family member gave them to you before they died. Then nobody can check their will and you aquired it “legitimately”!

    • @s.armitage3963
      @s.armitage3963 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@lorenzo_br5803 bingo! This guy gets it.

    • @philastley8040
      @philastley8040 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@s.armitage3963 Unless you are in the UK, then you may be guaranteed a winning lottery ticket....since our laws are quite progressive on that point, being that the finds monetary value is split between the finder and the landowner

    • @hugedickerinokripperino5299
      @hugedickerinokripperino5299 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Youll probably be suspected for tax fraud

    • @hugedickerinokripperino5299
      @hugedickerinokripperino5299 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or evasion

  • @fhuber7507
    @fhuber7507 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Don't tell anyone if you FIND treasure...
    Sell bits of it slowly in many locations.
    You just don't want to deal with the government taking it.

  • @Skraeling1000
    @Skraeling1000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    "all kinds of artifacts can be deemed treasures in Scottish law". So if you find an unopened bottle of, say, 20 year old Lagavulin that was accidentally left behind at a campsite by tourists, you should deliver it to the local cop shop. The forensics guys will then thoroughly test it - several times - before asking the local chief of police for his opinion. He may have to also take several samples to confirm forensic's findings, or possibly a large sample over ice. Once all testing has been concluded, the now empty bottle will be filed under "unsolved mysteries" in the back room. The finder will be awarded with a miniature bottle of some generic blended store brand whiskey as a "thank you".

  • @Bubonic32
    @Bubonic32 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    If you find it, but you don’t tell anyone about it, it’s yours.
    If you find it, and tell everyone, it should go into a museum (depending on what it is) and the finder should be rewarded.

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    @lectorserelith 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

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  • @zeke7515
    @zeke7515 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Video starts at 1:46

    • @user-ov6jg4ug9d
      @user-ov6jg4ug9d 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      0:00

    • @zeke7515
      @zeke7515 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@user-ov6jg4ug9d nah mate, that's an advert. Video starts at 1:46.

    • @user-ov6jg4ug9d
      @user-ov6jg4ug9d 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zeke7515 0:01

    • @nemrody7828
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      @@user-ov6jg4ug9d the video starts at 0:00, yes, but what he means is that the real content of the video starts at 1:46

  • @Joe-kb1sm
    @Joe-kb1sm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    If I found treasure, I would do like an sensible person. Keep my yap shut.

    • @mp40submachinegun81
      @mp40submachinegun81 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Family heirloom"

    • @domomitsune5920
      @domomitsune5920 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed, the government doesn't need to know your business and either does anyone else.

  • @mark80_bojangrunningwild43
    @mark80_bojangrunningwild43 3 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    “ In the US legal system nothing is ever easy “
    It is my understanding no truer words have ever been spoken on TH-cam lmfaooo !!!

    • @mark80_bojangrunningwild43
      @mark80_bojangrunningwild43 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Fisher Man will I for one will ! ;) ;) ;)

    • @FishFind3000
      @FishFind3000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Fisher Man how many people like taxes...

    • @ag135i
      @ag135i 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If we can't have it then we should bury it back though much much deeper than before going by the tools and tech we have now.

  • @DL-idk
    @DL-idk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Someone: found a buried treasure
    Government: thank you for the free labor ;)

  • @DulceAmada
    @DulceAmada 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My great grandfather found buried coins that surfaced when his town was flooded. This was maybe in the 60s-70s. He dreamed of the location for days before he went and dug it up. It was a box of old Spanish coins and gold. I don’t know how much was in it but apparently it was enough for him to purchase lands and when my great grandmother died almost 8 years ago, there was half a million that remained from that original treasure. It was found on his land, so he kept it.

  • @rztrzt
    @rztrzt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    If I ever stumbled across the buried kruger rands I would keep my gob shut, I'd melt them all down and sell the gold at 80% of the buying price just to shift it quickly...

    • @WilliamBrinkley45
      @WilliamBrinkley45 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Naw....melt it down then slowly let it drip into a wooden bucket filled with olive oil with crushed up quartz in the bottom. The gold droplets will look indistinguishable from small “picker” nuggets if you do it properly, then buy a few bags of paydirt off amazon to cover your @$$ and pay a goldsmith to have it professionally made into ingots with a paper trail. Keep all your receipts and pay any applicable Taxes on the sale of the gold. If your smart about it, it’ll appear that you got extremely lucky on the paydirt. (Plus the paydirt will have gold in it as well)

    • @Jukinj94
      @Jukinj94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You are killing the value of what it actually was. Why do people like you always have to ruin everything. Why not just say you found one at a time instead of destroying everything?

    • @rztrzt
      @rztrzt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Jukinj94 They would be worth more to me smelted down and untraceable, in their original state under the national heritage act & whatever other laws the state will lay claim to them and I'll be far worse off than smelting them. Once the state has them they will probably be looted like they do with everything else here in south africa.

    • @Jukinj94
      @Jukinj94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rztrzt that is reasonable. Just get all your shots those mosquitos are crazy.

    • @beantea5592
      @beantea5592 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Jukinj94 It's unfortunate but governments will try to stiff you on your find so people resort to that.

  • @fvckyoutubescensorshipandt2718
    @fvckyoutubescensorshipandt2718 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Not complicated to me, finder's keepers. If it's gold coins or rings simply melt them into 1/2- or 1-oz ingots and sell them on eBay at 5% under market value (better deal than a pawn shop). Same for gems, except they don't need melting. No trace= no foul, and even if it's more valuable whole than as raw materials try fencing a single million-dollar item without getting caught or killed or some gov't stealing it, good luck with that.

    • @SheepInACart
      @SheepInACart 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is how you destroy the historic value completely, leaving yourself with less money than if you declared the thing, and had buyers (be it a museum or otherwise) bid on them as coins. After all a gold coin with $500 of gold thats 400 years old is likely worth many thousands as a coin, your going to put a load of work in to get somewhere in the $400 range.... while even if the finders fee was only a quarter, you'd likely be better off by being honest (and again, in the UK it'd be full market rate you get). Also selling gold on ebay? Probably not the most subtle way to avoid the tax department their lad.

    • @fvckyoutubescensorshipandt2718
      @fvckyoutubescensorshipandt2718 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@SheepInACart Eh every one of my eBay ID's/Paypals is connected to a different real life ID/physical address = so much for the taxes, particularly If I keep sales under $10k each a year. Also I'm in the US, where people screw themselves if they declare it. If I was in Eastern Europe it would be even worse, I wouldn't get shit. As far as historic value as I mentioned before try fencing items worth 10x their weight in gold, not easy, and certainly more risk since it can then be traced. Thankfully I'm not a history buff or that sentimental.

  • @strangelee4400
    @strangelee4400 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    'We need it for scientific research'
    Like - How many Ferrari's can i buy in a year?

  • @GeraldBlack1
    @GeraldBlack1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I'm a scientist, and it doesn't take much research to tell my wallet has been excavated!

  • @Ilighitaq
    @Ilighitaq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ah yes if I had a paper that says I'm an archeologist then my work is no longer "looting" but "research"

    • @philastley8040
      @philastley8040 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unless you are lucky enough to be in England, and then you are due a windfall

  • @lottavernix
    @lottavernix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    According to the advertisements I am watching something way above my station.

    • @shadowling77777
      @shadowling77777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      xd but you’ll get buried treasure

    • @nosuchthing8
      @nosuchthing8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They assume some people found some treasure. The YT algorithm that is.

    • @fvckyoutubescensorshipandt2718
      @fvckyoutubescensorshipandt2718 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kingpin browser and Adblock = what are advertisements?

    • @lottavernix
      @lottavernix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fvckyoutubescensorshipandt2718 I was referring to the watch advertised by Simon.

    • @fvckyoutubescensorshipandt2718
      @fvckyoutubescensorshipandt2718 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lottavernix eh fast forward button still works ok enough until an AI adblockers are mainstream (auto-skip based on keywords mentioned and object recognition in the video itself).

  • @mugwump7049
    @mugwump7049 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "or, you know, death by Viking or the sorts."
    😂😂😂

  • @jamieh4086
    @jamieh4086 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    "you keep what you kill." - from Riddick 😊

    • @Abel1120
      @Abel1120 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i thought that was a cool movie

  • @flhxri
    @flhxri 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If you find something never tell the government.

  • @epapa737
    @epapa737 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    More scientists need to pay up if they don't want people taking their finds. finders keepers 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @bhgtree
    @bhgtree 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    In Ireland when the Derrynaflan Hoard was found, there was years of litigation between finders and the government to settle who had legal ownership.
    ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derrynaflan_Chalice)

  • @GreasyBeasty
    @GreasyBeasty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    When I used to live on our family farm I would walk the plowed rows and would fine many arrowheads and a few native American tools like a mortar and pestle as well as several axe heads.

    • @LadyCatterly
      @LadyCatterly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I was coming here to say this. Now, 60 years later, I have no idea where any of those "treasures" are.

  • @diyeana
    @diyeana 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    There's just one thing I need to know. Did the Goonies get to keep their found treasure?

    • @NonComOff
      @NonComOff 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      each child were given 100 dollars and gift card to wallmart

    • @domomitsune5920
      @domomitsune5920 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Unfortunately not. All they got away was was a bag of jewels, which they used to pay off the town, so that the town couldn't be developed. All the treasure float away with sloth. The crooks were too stupid to check a bag thinking it only contained marbles, not jewels.

    • @eventhisidistaken
      @eventhisidistaken 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's fiction, so if you wanted them to keep it, they kept it.

  • @jacrispiejackson69
    @jacrispiejackson69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Finders keepers. I definitely wouldn’t go on tv bragging you already know the government gonna take that shit

  • @mybackhurts7020
    @mybackhurts7020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    First thing you do is don’t tell anybody

  • @fredjackson8408
    @fredjackson8408 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Pretty sure you get to keep it if you dont tell everyone you found it. Especially if its precious metals. Just 'randomly' take up an interest in smelting and it's all kosher.

  • @josephattwell1006
    @josephattwell1006 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    11:05 Archeology was not always like this. Back in the 19th and early 20th century, many archeologists favorite excavation tool was dynamite. In 1873, a man named Heinrich Schliemann excavated what was thought to be the legendary city of Troy. He blew most of it up trying to get to the "original" city, blasting through to far, past the Bronze age layer to something much earlier than when the Trojan war could possibly take place.

  • @Horse-and-Butterfly
    @Horse-and-Butterfly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There's a recent real world case study that would have been interesting. Writer Forrest fenn hid a treasure in the rocky mountains (with items worth around 2 million dollars i believe) and published a poem and very vague map so people could go find it. It was recently found and it was in the news but it would have been interesting to know the process the person went through to keep it

    • @wendychavez5348
      @wendychavez5348 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe he had an extensive contract written up when he decided to do it, which the finder signed before any details were released. That's a wild guess, but someone with that kind of money to give away for fun would be aware of the legalities behind it.

    • @Horse-and-Butterfly
      @Horse-and-Butterfly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wendychavez5348 yeah that could definitely be the case, he obviously wanted the treasure to be found and already stated that it would belong to the person who found it, I just wonder how that works in the legal world? Do they just find it and that's it? Did they have to go through some legal process? Don't know, but would love to hear more details since this is such a recent story!

    • @prime_optimus
      @prime_optimus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Horse-and-Butterfly The person who finds it will probably get arrested for some made up reason.

    • @frenchonion4595
      @frenchonion4595 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@prime_optimus Yep they will setup a bogus search and seizure if they get wind of it before hand and they will make it hell to get it back through the court system. After i think 6 months that money goes directly to the department that stopped you. legalized highway robbery

  • @TurulHEMA
    @TurulHEMA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nice! I have never watched a Today I Found Out Video this new. I always seem to be watching videos from years ago not 5 minutes ago.

    • @philastley8040
      @philastley8040 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Welcome to the TIFO community :)

    • @chandl34
      @chandl34 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t think this is new. It looks like reupload of a video he made a few years ago.

    • @philastley8040
      @philastley8040 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chandl34 Possibly but I had never watched it before, but I have seen a video about coca cola bottled water in the UK so maybe you are right :)

  • @SBaby
    @SBaby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Pawn Shop Owner: It's as if every gold doubloon in the city is someone's family heirloom.

  • @cynthiasimpson931
    @cynthiasimpson931 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There was a big controversy between Ann Hodges, the woman who was hit by a meteorite in 1954, and the owner of the house she lived in. The house owner insisted the meteorite was his because he owned the land where the meteorite landed, whereas Ann Hodges was actually hit by the meteorite. She eventually paid the house owner $500 for the meteorite, and tried to sell it but couldn't so she donated it to a museum. I've always said that was the way I wanted to go - to walk outside and get clonked by a meteorite. While a meteorite isn't exactly a treasure in the gold coin sense, they're very valuable for science research.

  • @seabournewolf2298
    @seabournewolf2298 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Currently in the US if you find treasure say a Spanish galleon with gold. Spain gets a share. The US gets a share and the state you found it in also gets a share. You likely will get no share and if you do it will be a tiny percentage of which you’ll have to pay taxes on. A guy in Florida found Spanish treasure and after being caught up in the exact situation he brought it back out to sea and threw it overboard denying anyone a share

  • @tpl608
    @tpl608 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Over 4 minutes of ads and less than 10 minutes of actual video. That is more than USA network TV.

    • @thepjup4507
      @thepjup4507 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i didn't get any ads other than the one that was part of the video. youtube forces ads whether a creator puts them or not now. even on completely demonetized channels i still occasionally get ads on them. youtube is garbage.

  • @alpacatears
    @alpacatears 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In Ireland it's completely illegal to use metal detectors to search for treasure without dispensation from the minister for Culture, Heritage and the Gaeltacht.
    So not only would whatever you find likely be confiscated, you could also get massively fined in the process 😂

  • @sleepygryph
    @sleepygryph 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know that when a lot of the original property in the states was drawn up and resold there ended up being different "rights" that come with the property, water rights being common. I imagine that this is what makes it complicated in the states. Does your property deed have the correct wording to give you ownership for what is below the ground. A mining company may have the rights to the minerals they are mining but not the rights to the trees on the surface. SO it is completely possible to not have any clam to buried treasure. The issue is really that the ones making the decision have a conflict of interest precluding them from making an actually fair decision. See a museum can make an insane amount of money from getting treasure cheap. They can actually sell off items, the can get grants and subsides based off of items, and in cases where the museum charges admission they can make money off of items that they have on display.

  • @cheapskatecoins5709
    @cheapskatecoins5709 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    you should do a part 2 to this dealing with shipwreck/ocean found treasures

  • @626games
    @626games 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Depends on how quietly you can pawn it all off. Lol

  • @bbb462cid
    @bbb462cid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Silence is golden. Duct tape is silver. Two can keep a secret when one of them is...eternally...motivated to remain quiet.

    • @domomitsune5920
      @domomitsune5920 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's a reason why dead men don't tell Tales. If snitches get stitches, a blabbermouth gets a bullet to the back of the head or a knife to the back.

    • @tomfrazier1103
      @tomfrazier1103 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "I've got to boogie Woogie like a knife in the back".

  • @threeballwilly
    @threeballwilly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    ""Rejection of the rules that reward finders at the expense of landowners also strengthens anti-looting provisions"..
    Translation: You found treasure on your property, your property is on US soil therefor it's our property. Thank you for digging up our treasure on our property.

    • @inserisciunnome
      @inserisciunnome 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That sounds an awfull lot like communism..

  • @jeffborders5526
    @jeffborders5526 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    *sees a few old coins on the ground. *Trades them for coins of a different currency. Failed to tell the queen. *Goes to prison for 10 years.

  • @noeltv3728
    @noeltv3728 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The problem with buried treasure is you have to find someone willing to buy it at a good price. I'd rather hit the jackpot at the lottery.

  • @news2383
    @news2383 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As long as you don't tell anyone about it of course you get to keep it

  • @joeyramirez8211
    @joeyramirez8211 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Museum: Tell us where you found this artifact!
    Me: No

  • @ndupontnet
    @ndupontnet 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    @08:03 "skipping the middleman" with a grandfather's clock in the background, being sponsored by Vincero, well done sir, well done.

  • @kirkstribble
    @kirkstribble 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    TIFO: Affordable watches...
    Me: Oooh
    TIFO: Just click the link
    Me: £150 plus, OK pass, I think I'll skip the watch so I can eat food for the next few weeks

    • @deanc91
      @deanc91 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You can get the exact same watch for like $30 off alibaba without the vincero branding. These are scam watches

    • @thelizardpalace4597
      @thelizardpalace4597 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They are shit tho

    • @fvckyoutubescensorshipandt2718
      @fvckyoutubescensorshipandt2718 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Need to know the time = look at my phone or PC. I can't believe watches are still even made in 2020 along with mp3 players. Other than for the plebes that don't own either of those (but then why would knowing the time matter?).

    • @deanc91
      @deanc91 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@fvckyoutubescensorshipandt2718 It's jewelry, and I don't mean that dismissively. It signifies to others that you're a person that is timely, and if you're into automatic/manual watches, it's a conversation piece and a signifier that you're into the engineering and mechanics of a mechanical watch and how it can meld seamlessly with aesthetic design. It's also a bit less disrespectful to glance at your watch than to whip out your phone in many social situations.

    • @fvckyoutubescensorshipandt2718
      @fvckyoutubescensorshipandt2718 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@deanc91 didn't know social situations happened anymore with plague going around.

  • @StayZero556
    @StayZero556 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Question: Do you get to keep buried treasure if you find it?
    Answer: You do if you keep your damn mouth shut.

  • @J3scribe
    @J3scribe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting. You should do a companion piece on sunken treasure and salvage rights.

  • @bhgtree
    @bhgtree 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Newspaper: " Local man finds trove of gold coins."
    Me: Shows bag of candy foil wrapped gold coins "What gold coins?."

  • @dougsteel7414
    @dougsteel7414 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, that ad segue, slick!

  • @CezarBianu
    @CezarBianu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:45 of ad space at the beggining? WOW!

  • @JohnnyYeTaecanUktena
    @JohnnyYeTaecanUktena 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Basically what you do when you find a treasure trove is you shut up, tell no one about it, and pocket it for yourself especially if you find a literal fossil that has some quarts crystals forming in it.

  • @heru-deshet359
    @heru-deshet359 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you find treasure, KEEP IT AND DON"T TELL ANYONE! Then patiently grade each piece and sell it. The profit will be staggering.

  • @mattyclad9185
    @mattyclad9185 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The rights for buried treasure around my area depends on who owns the land. For anything that would be significant, ownership will usually go: private land owner > city > county > state > federal. Most State and all Federal land is illegal to dig on. Those rights typically go to the local universities.

  • @Thatlukeguy69
    @Thatlukeguy69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seems like all your videos are all the random questions I ask myself at 4am when I can’t sleep and I’m completely okay with that

  • @jensh.2595
    @jensh.2595 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If its gold, just melt it at home.

    • @lolll3360
      @lolll3360 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactlyyy

  • @BobbyCoggins
    @BobbyCoggins 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Because of the confiscatory tax rate and so on, I would just sell off the pieces one at a time and say they were just items that had been passed down through the family from time immemorial.

  • @KerbsideAssassin
    @KerbsideAssassin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I clicked the thumb expecting to hear 'Hello Vsauce, Michael here'
    Very interesting content, and genuinely enjoyed it regardless :')

  • @1stfacts542
    @1stfacts542 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Never tell anyone when you find treasure... Always find the most silent way to trade in for what it’s worth and get it off your hands... Rinse and repeat...

  • @CChico996
    @CChico996 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Of course Simon had a video answering this random question I just thought up. All the Whistler channels are just too excellent. 👌

  • @wendychavez5348
    @wendychavez5348 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    At least two of my mom's siblings were avidly hunting for Forest Fenn's treasure that was recently found (was it a year ago already?), and I believe her youngest brother was very close when it was actually found. I don't know what the details are, but it's pretty exciting.

  • @wingus666
    @wingus666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What gets me the most though is, you could be walking down the high street, and within a few feet or inches below your feet, a hoard of lost golden artifacts and so on. P.S. I do NOT recommend anyone just goes around digging up your local high street. Local authorities will get very annoyed...or contract you to do repairs if they think they can hire you for nothing..lol

  • @blindalienproductions5589
    @blindalienproductions5589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It belongs in a museum!

  • @travismullins8230
    @travismullins8230 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I wonder if he memorizes the script or if he’s reading it while filming

    • @diyeana
      @diyeana 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He is reading it.

    • @sandybarnes887
      @sandybarnes887 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Watch a Business Blaze then you'll know. 😆

    • @planetphatness
      @planetphatness 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Teleprompter

    • @travismullins8230
      @travismullins8230 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He’s damn good at acting like he’s not reading it. I thought he would memorize a paragraph section, you’ll notice after a long paragraph it will cut to a picture or have a blip like a new shot started, and just memorize a paragraph at a time

    • @sandybarnes887
      @sandybarnes887 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@travismullins8230 he reads from a script like in Business Blaze which is part of the fun or uses a teleprompter in front of the camera.

  • @Revex08
    @Revex08 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    God I hope the answer is gonna be I get to keep it 🤞

  • @domomitsune5920
    @domomitsune5920 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sure you can, just don't tell him when you when you found it. Put it in a trunk in the attic, and claimed as a family heirloom. Who's going to question that?

    • @oblitusunum6979
      @oblitusunum6979 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The feds not that they are pushing the inheritance tax bs. They seriously want a complete history of the items and to charge you so much in taxes that you will have to sell everything just to pay off the taxes

  • @Mia_Mischief
    @Mia_Mischief 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Coming back to this channel after watching Simon acting feral on Business Blaze feels like I'm watching a completely different lol

  • @philastley8040
    @philastley8040 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Simon, what music is playing in the background? :)

  • @MajesticSkywhale
    @MajesticSkywhale 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You never tell anyone, lmao

  • @killiancraftofcraftyworks975
    @killiancraftofcraftyworks975 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd melt the metal down and sell it for it's price as scrap.
    Try and figure out how old that lump of gold is now lol

  • @Living_Despite
    @Living_Despite 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting enough. Perhaps a segment on the gold rush in america and it's treasure finds.

  • @MAYERMAKES
    @MAYERMAKES 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "treasure Hunter" is a freely registerable business in austria. If i have the spare change I'll open up a treasure hunting business jsut for the business card

  • @brad885
    @brad885 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Depends on what it is and where you bought it. Do your research and wait out the statute of limitations if it's extremely valuable. If only mildly valuable pawn it off after a year.

  • @twocvbloke
    @twocvbloke 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My dad once found a roman gold ring when metal detecting, didn't get a penny for it, but it is in a museum now, sometimes the pride of having discovered historical objects is worth more personally as a reward than the money is...

    • @jameshudson395
      @jameshudson395 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where you from. Country?

    • @JohnnyYeTaecanUktena
      @JohnnyYeTaecanUktena 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No i would rather money as a reward as you can't feed your family on pride. And i refuse to think that someone would seriously pass up a reward of monetary value for something that is gold unless they were threatened with jail time if they did not give it up

    • @lolll3360
      @lolll3360 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No offence to your dad but he should have melted it down and sold it as a family heirloom 🥴.but I guess you can look at the expensive ring in the museum and appreciate it ....

    • @konstantine381
      @konstantine381 ปีที่แล้ว

      Uncle has found similar, just sold it privately, not worth letting the government steal from you

  • @ve2vfd
    @ve2vfd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Today on Time Team... needs more Phil Aaaarding though ;) lol!

    • @sandybarnes887
      @sandybarnes887 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Stone of crows.

    • @sandybarnes887
      @sandybarnes887 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There's a fan page for Time Team on Facebook

    • @philastley8040
      @philastley8040 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lol I am Phil, but I do not know who this Aaaarding guy is :p

    • @ve2vfd
      @ve2vfd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@philastley8040 You don'T know Phil Harding? He's only the coolest archaeologist on the planet!

  • @TheEvilCommenter
    @TheEvilCommenter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video 👍

  • @rickysmyth
    @rickysmyth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The good thing about this is that you can fast forward to the video rather than watch the ads

  • @dylanashley799
    @dylanashley799 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolutely. My uncle dud found a 9 foot skeleton, was taken from the family back in the 1950’s taken to somewhere in New York State, they told my family they would likely get it back after research purposes, that was like 70 years ago

    • @prime_optimus
      @prime_optimus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its probably in a museum.

    • @thepsychicspoon5984
      @thepsychicspoon5984 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@prime_optimus Its probably siting in a box in some warehouse.

  • @SSJfraz
    @SSJfraz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I dug up a treasure chest full of Vincero watches.
    I then dug a hole 10 times deeper and reburied the lot of them.

  • @dawnnightinger3025
    @dawnnightinger3025 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If there is no reward for finding treasure or the reward isn't worth the effort, historic finds can pretty much disappear after being discovered.

  • @aleinstein3223
    @aleinstein3223 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Death by Viking" love it

  • @Gappasaurus
    @Gappasaurus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Silence is golden... just like treasure 😉

  • @loupiscanis9449
    @loupiscanis9449 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you

  • @thedolt3367
    @thedolt3367 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like this Brit, He works hard as hell. He must be a TH-cam millionaire.