Hello Dave, thank you very much for your clear demonstration about what underscribing/ overscribing means in practical terms. Really great explanations! :-) However I have one question concerning the necessity of the relief space at the top. A log always shrinks radially, that means in width as well as in height. Now, if the log with the saddle shrinks also in height wouldn't this mean, that automatically free space is created, so that the log above could slide down the saddle even without this extra cut at the top of the notch? Or do I have a mistake in thinking here? Thank you very much
Technically if everything shrinks equally in all directions then you are correct, but by also giving the extra relief above it encouraged 100% of the log weight to be on the visible angled faces of the saddle. Just to encourage the tightest fit possible over time. The relief space is hidden so it’s a best case practice. Thanks.
Great video and very useful! However, being a W-European dummy at log building, I have a question with regards to the shrinking of the saddle notch and the logs. Due to the setting and shrinking of the saddle, the logs will come together. But, what if both logs (below and above the saddle) shrink as well? Hard to imagine that only the saddle would shrink? Or will the weight of the logs above finally have pushed down the entire structure after about two years? Keep up the great work, makes me even consider moving to Scandinavia and build my own log house!
Thank you. You are correct, all the logs will shrink. The compressive forces and the weight of the logs above encourages the logs to remain tight as the building dries. Good luck with your build!
thank you s much for the fast reply. i'm currently clearing ground, then going to be building a floor whilst logging for my house/cabin. @@bcschooloflogbuilding4385
The scribe setting is based on the widest gap once the log is rough notched prior to scribing. Check out our video on how to use scribes in this series for more info.
@@bcschooloflogbuilding4385 Have seen videos about 6 mm. So this gap represent how much the log will thrink? And when do you put in insulation? Will the house dry for two years before moving in?
@@cieslaolsztyn8266 a combo of log shrinkage and fiber compression from weight of logs above, on average 10 mm, insulation goes in between the logs as shell is erected, majority of drying takes place in first year but can take up to 5 yrs for 100% settling.
I would like to take a moment to appreciate the poetic beauty of a man named Stonehouse teaching us log building.
You have a way with explaining techniques. I understood well on the first pass!
Terrific. Glad you enjoyed.
Thank you for creating this school. Can't wait to attend
Thank you for the demonstration! Summer is coming, hopefully, you will have some hands-on classes available.
You’re welcome! Hopefully travel restrictions let up so that we can gather again safely this summer!
@@bcschooloflogbuilding4385 will you be offering a online course for the saddle notch log homes in the future?
@@wayneholmes9081 yes, it’s in our plans to produce an online version.
Súper high quality modern video. Glad I found you before I started my cabin👍👍
Thank you!
Exceptional instruction! This video answers several questions and solves them.
Attn: family builders, loggers, mill yards
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Hello Dave,
thank you very much for your clear demonstration about what underscribing/ overscribing means in practical terms. Really great explanations! :-)
However I have one question concerning the necessity of the relief space at the top. A log always shrinks radially, that means in width as well as in height. Now, if the log with the saddle shrinks also in height wouldn't this mean, that automatically free space is created, so that the log above could slide down the saddle even without this extra cut at the top of the notch?
Or do I have a mistake in thinking here?
Thank you very much
Technically if everything shrinks equally in all directions then you are correct, but by also giving the extra relief above it encouraged 100% of the log weight to be on the visible angled faces of the saddle. Just to encourage the tightest fit possible over time. The relief space is hidden so it’s a best case practice. Thanks.
Great video and very useful! However, being a W-European dummy at log building, I have a question with regards to the shrinking of the saddle notch and the logs. Due to the setting and shrinking of the saddle, the logs will come together. But, what if both logs (below and above the saddle) shrink as well? Hard to imagine that only the saddle would shrink?
Or will the weight of the logs above finally have pushed down the entire structure after about two years?
Keep up the great work, makes me even consider moving to Scandinavia and build my own log house!
Thank you. You are correct, all the logs will shrink. The compressive forces and the weight of the logs above encourages the logs to remain tight as the building dries. Good luck with your build!
Dave how do you detrmine the setting of the scribe?
I am about to take a few years off to build a log home. I should come take a class
Great video :)
Glad you liked it! There are more coming.
Which scriber bubble arrangement is easier for the beginner to use? Double or mono/target?
We prefer the double.
how long do you expect shrinkage to take place in order for the belly scribe to seal up?
It depends mainly on the size and weight of the logs but generally within 2 months in dry weather.
thank you s much for the fast reply.
i'm currently clearing ground, then going to be building a floor whilst logging for my house/cabin.
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What determines the width of scribe (difference) between the belly and log cuts ?
The scribe setting is based on the widest gap once the log is rough notched prior to scribing. Check out our video on how to use scribes in this series for more info.
When you go from the notch setting to the belly overscribe setting do you have to check your level and plumb again?
@@Linda-w1s yes, every time you change the scribe setting you have to recalibrate your scribes.
You prefer to over scribe the groove. I have noticed some log builders under scribe the notch. What are your reasons for your choice?
Overscribing the belly or underscribing the notch will give the same result.
How many buckets does one log cost?
so what is the difference in inches belly and over scribe? Looks like one cm
@@cieslaolsztyn8266 it varies depending on what log we’re working on throughout the height of the wall but in average about a half inch.
@@bcschooloflogbuilding4385 Have seen videos about 6 mm. So this gap represent how much the log will thrink? And when do you put in insulation? Will the house dry for two years before moving in?
@@cieslaolsztyn8266 a combo of log shrinkage and fiber compression from weight of logs above, on average 10 mm, insulation goes in between the logs as shell is erected, majority of drying takes place in first year but can take up to 5 yrs for 100% settling.
@@bcschooloflogbuilding4385 Thanks! At what point do you put in insulation? After shrinking is complete...dismantle the whole building?
So that it will fit tight.
Unsubscribed and gave you a “thumbs down” for not taking the time to mention the creator of the “overscribe method” Del Radomske.