Seriously, the rollercoaster of emotions Cap runs through in this video is enough to give you whiplash. I've not heard a grown man make these noises in such a long time... Great video as always, well done.
@@grimreapers Oooh, do you think the British & American ships & planes could be given skins with corresponding red or blue coats, with tri-point hats & Revolutionary War-era garb? Maybe CH could fashion them some powdered wigs?
@@FunnyQuailMan War? it's not a war. It's a policing action. If you do it from 1776 America loses hard. As is proven by American Armada being destroyed by a inferior force.
@@grimreapers Here's a standard Red VS Blue! Just so happens to be the Long awaited 3rd rematch! U.S. Carrier Fleet VS Russian Carrier Fleet! Kuznetsov Class Carrier, Air-Air MIG-29KR's with R-77M's, Anti-Ship SU-33M's with Kinzhal's, 5 Gorshkov's, 1 Kirov, and 1 Slava! VS Ford Class Carrier, Air-Air F/A-18F's with AIM-260's, F-35C's with Mako's, 2 Arleigh Burke's, 2 Constellation's, and 2 Ticonderoga's! Please Cap lol I've been making this request in one form or another for years now😅🙏
Because Mako is more capable of defeating missile defenses. HALO is what is going to replace LRASM irl and the specifications look very similar to Mako just bigger.
C - The UK group would fight as well as ever but alas, we will name the captured ships, Tea Party, Stamp Act, Sugar Tax, and Pine Tree Riot! and the colors are wrong way 'round, and if you got this far relax it's all in good fun like watching the Royal Marines try to play American football drunk!
This will be entertaining! Long awaited 3rd rematch! U.S. Carrier Fleet VS Russian Carrier Fleet! Kuznetsov Class Carrier, Air-Air MIG-29KR's with R-77M's, Anti-Ship SU-33M's with Kinzhal's, 5 Gorshkov's, 1 Kirov, and 1 Slava! VS Ford Class Carrier, Air-Air F/A-18F's with AIM-260's, F-35C's with Mako's, 2 Arleigh Burke's, 2 Constellation's, and 2 Ticonderoga's!
Good battle. Back in my USN days I went aboard a UK ship to help with an equipment repair. The offered me a beer. Therefore, I would NEVER condone a US vs. UK naval battle. Respect!
1:39 see this is what I like about this channel, he reads our comments ,pays attention to what we say and explains why he can’t do that, I like him because he doesn’t ignore us. ( I commented if he could give the anti-ship aircraft air to air missiles )
@@grimreapers you can't use Ticonderoga bc they don't have Tomahawks... come on man😐 lol they're mostly there for defense anyways. Plus* that's kinda like saying, cant use these ships bc NSM doesn't reach/come into play...
@@Anarchy_420 You obviously have trouble with comprehension, the man said he can't do something it is what is move along and just enjoy the video or not.
It seems like the launch button got stuck for the US fleet for those spear 3s. Hell, they don't even fire that many at the Chinese hypersonics from what I've seen.
I can actually envision you at ten years old sitting on your bed with the sheets pulled over your head and playing battle with your toys in your little tent world.
The energy weapons and railguns the US are deep into testing at the moment are both BAE hardware, same with the cool cloaking tech both peeps are testing at the moment (the "invisible" tanks are really worth having a look at)
Yo Cap! Please!🙏 Long awaited 3rd rematch! U.S. Carrier Fleet VS Russian Carrier Fleet! Kuznetsov Class Carrier, Air-Air MIG-29KR's with R-77M's, Anti-Ship SU-33M's with Kinzhal's, 5 Gorshkov's, 1 Kirov, and 1 Slava! VS Ford Class Carrier, Air-Air F/A-18F's with AIM-260's, F-35C's with Mako's, 2 Arleigh Burke's, 2 Constellation's, and 2 Ticonderoga's!👍
@@khriswildt5633 way back when, Russian Fleet beat U.S. Fleet bc they were able to get close enough to use their big guns, and they beat them twice! Lol now I kno a lot has changed since, which is why I've been askin for this request in one form or another for Years*! I just really want to see the rematch/matchup now and with the changes I've asked for essentially make it as balanced as possible! Should be an epic battle!✌
My proposal for the US is F-35s with AIM-260 for long range and AIM-120s for medium range in a 2/4 configuration for long range anti-aircraft capability and medium range for keeping the cost to a reasonable extent.
@@Dimitris_Datseris F-35's will smash MIG-29's and SU-33's all day no matter what! Which is why I've requested The Air-Air to be between F/A-18F's with AIM-260's VS MIG-29KR's with R-77M's to make it as balanced as possible! F-35C's have Mako's and SU-33's have Kinzhal's!✌
Great video Cap! Really entertaining stuff. My only suggestion is you should have posted this video next Thursday …. It’s a very special day here in the US 😁
Why did you give up LRASM? As far as I have read Mako has not even been selected (yet) for full-scale production or use by the US. But LRASM is already operational and they are ramping up production. If you're trying to make an interesting scenario I would have the US equipped with a mix of Mako and LRASM.
I'm also curious when we will see the ship launched versions of the LRASMs. Also, maybe seeing the US fleet with the Zumwalt launching its hypersonics could be fun as well.
@@XrandomnessX Yeah I don't understand why the Navy is moving so slow with developing VLS launched LRASM. That seems like much better use of money than upgrading old Tomahawks. My personal opinion is that submarine launched LRASM is a complete war winning combination. I would also love to see them integrate the new hypersonic missile for Zumwalt into these simulations. Maybe we just don't have enough info about it yet.
Because this is set in 2027-2029, the LRASM will most certainly be in service but the HALO program should be coming to completion and Mako is probably very similar to HALO if quite a bit smaller. Giving everyone next-gen weapons but the US would be unfair.
@@mattseller148 Are you suggesting that LRASM is not a next-gen weapon? I reject the idea that all future weapons most be hypersonic. I think a group of stealthy, smart missiles with large warheads are just as if not more dangerous than a handful of hypersonic missiles.
Holy snappin' what a battle! The UK has really punched above it's weight in all of these carrier battlegroup fights so far, and to actually take out a US carrier (albiet at the cost of the entire task force minus 1 beat up destroyer) was DAMN impressive, especially as it was an almost literal strike from the grave. GREAT fun to both watch and listen to. Hope there's still more to come!
That was the most hilarious video ever from GR - not b/c America won but b/c of Caps' brilliant narration. How about we just agree to stay friends? We do have 10 more carrier groups to send, as you mentioned.
To address the long range missile complaint you talked about in minute 2, you could start with two complete CBGs and model just the long range attacks in single player, then do the actual multiplayer battles with the resultant states of the groups.
Hi Cap, I have a slight complaint which is that it is somewhat unrealistic to have 4 type 45s in the same place at once. Having 4 at sea at once is already pushing it, and we would likely need to spread them out to protect some of our other ships as well. For reference, currently the most we have ever had in one place was 3 for a photo shoot, and that was a decade ago.
It is really cool to see these simulations constantly improve with each iteration. With every new video, they get better and better, and more realistic.
@@outrider425 did it lose though? One side lost 1/11th of its naval carrier strength compared to the other losing almost all of its naval carrier strength.
If UK had used Sea Ceptor instead of Aster to defend the MSTs, I think it would have been a draw overall as both sides would have had very good defences for what they are facing
if UK was actually competent in this they could have beaten US, F-35's should have flown higher, they should not have used all there asters on easy targets.
@@EnglishScripterYep, just finished the video and my god if we had played better we would have won! Spear 3 overwhelm strategy is the only time I can remember USA running out of missiles
Honestly, I think the UK has a chance of at least only losing one or two ships if they simply use Sea Ceptor over ASTER 30. They were a lot of Makos tho. Also kinda wish Cap gave the UK more CAP to take on the anti-shippers, and made the SPEAR 3 squadron of F35Bs beast mode (up to 12 SPEAR 3s each). They were never really detected apart from a couple, and still sapped all the US SAMs
As a Brit, this hurt but was massively fun. Super good the US are allies! Britain have a really nice little future carrier group, especially that SPEAR 3. Can only imagine how good it'll be IF the UK retrofits the QE/PoW to have catapults
@@andrewbogard2411 I think the UK still has some ways to go but the Royal Navy may be fine for decades. But it must be mentioned the SPEAR 5 anti-ship is still a long term thing (2030), it'll likely be Tomahawk. Which may still work with the UK's strategy of SAM wasting and big meaty strike when they're out of SAMs ( 1 SQ of SPEAR 3s & Tomahawks, 1 SQ of Storm Shadow/Harpoons/NSM)
Camm-Mr will only ever go to sea in the Polish navy and not the RN unless it can still be quadpacked instead of dual packed. Camm-Er maybe as Land ceptor uses it and MBDA are now confident it can still be quadpacked in sylver and mk 41
@@lukeallison3713 The UK is co-developing the MR variant with the Polish, with the army requesting longer range air defense systems and public opinion massively supporting the implementation of GBAD it would make the most sense. It was also announced that they would be procuring the larger, longer ranged version of the SAAB Giraffe radar in recent years. Daul packing is perfectly acceptable for naval missiles. T-26 could carry 16 MR missiles in a single block of MK-41 cells and still have room to carry a potent 16 cruise/asroc type weapons (on top of the 48 standard CAMM). The T-31/2 could carry even more. It would be a really great home grown solution to increase wider area naval defense that's come under question recently as we had only been able to put a single AAW destroyer to sea in response to the Houthis attacks when many other nations were able to put multiple, smaller AAW vessels to sea.
Hey Cap! Hope you are feeling well at the moment! Id love to see this battle take place with 2-3 escorts instead, sort of like out on normal patrol, then qll out war breaks out, reduced air wings ext. ❤
@grimreapers Simply a brilliant fight with commentary to match! I too voice an opinion 'not to leave gear off the table' even when the other side can't match it ... & even if it mitigates entertainment a bit. It's why the gods created fast-forwarding after all! 😛 Even if only the occasional battle now and again.
Well if you're going to do that then the British don't and won't have that many f-35s because they've got a split what they're getting between two carriers. And the Americans are still going to outnumber them in escorts
I think the Meteor is benefiting from the AI not continuing to notch, they notch and then turn back around allowing the slow missile to reacquire or get the next one in the line. If it was human or they weren't in a perfect line it probably wouldn't do so well.
😂😂 One of the best battles yet, Cap!! One thing is for certain, DCS’s target deconfliction is absolutely horrifying! A U.S. or UK CSG would not blow its load that fast.
They already did UK vs France, and as much as it pains my half-French heart the UK got that one in the bag. Unless France has FCAS, they just cannot compete with the F-35B
However, keep your eyes on CurrentHill, because he's got some German assets cooking up... Admiral189 also has got some Pasta on the grill too... As far as Japan is concerned they are mostly the same as the US.
@@totalNERD-eo7wx Yeah but they were quite scuffed I would like to see the new and improved systems used. Maybe even the new french destroyer the ronarch, i think its called?
@@EnglishScripter Still, I don't think it would be much different. I just looked up the specs for the Ronarc'h, and it isn't _that_ much different from a FREMM, although there could be any number of differences on the inside... A video that I would kind of want to see, though, is the UK and France together vs something else, like the entire Northern Fleet + MiG-31s and S-400s or something.
The Brits may have pulled a draw out of nowhere, but note that they dont have a carrier or its escorts anymore. The US still have another 10 carriers, and I’m pretty sure we’ve got a new one set to launch this year. Still, great fight they put up. Im glad they’re on our side.
While the French Navy Aviation force doesn’t use F-35’s and are limited to the Rafale: I would love to see what they can do against American, British, Russian and Chinese Navy’s. They do have formidable a formidable navy, and while they may fail- it would be fun to see. Italy can fit in here too. I would also love to see some smaller match ups of Danish, Dutch, German, Swedish, Finnish (all using joint air force with naval powers). Ie: maybe a Baltic and Northern Sea joint Op battle against Russia. This would remind me of the 4 day Taiwan battle you did. That was epic and would love to see more of it❤
The amount of missiles spent on spear 3 is frankly ridiculous imo, who would waste all of the SM-6s, SM-2s on 500 knot missiles? And the amount of them fired at one load alone is crazy.
It seems as though Britain and America have had the most effective offence so far, what with the American MST/Mako combo and the British Spear 3/Spear 5. Not what I expected, and a very big departure for the NSMs of the previous series.
Regarding the Type 26, The first one has been more than laid out, It's currently being fitted out, ie having its systems installed ect, The second will be floated out of the construction shipyard and over to the fitting out yard in August, Just a couple of months away from now, The third is beginning construction currently...
As an Australian, i would really like to sea the Hunter class (Australian type 26) and see how it compares in this type of scenario. like our hunter class can potentially hold a similar weapons load but American/Norwegian; a potential armament is: 76 missiles total (+torps, i was surprised the City class isnt equiped with torpedo launchers on ship) - 48 ESSM (using 12 MK-41) - 12 SM-2/SM-6? (tbf we could also just pack it with another 48 ESSM's) - 8 long range attack (tomahawk block? or even something similar to SPEAR5?) - 8 deck launched canister launched NSM (we could fit another 8 if we wanted to aswell, though tbf that depends on the available top weight as our radar is already considerabley more heavy) and i wonder what the Ceafar Radar (CEAMOUNT 2) panel array can do, compared to the ARTISAN 3d radar spinning array. another fantastic video as always
He’s so happy when they destroy one ship of our fleet while his fleet is at the bottom of the sea, but he’d be pissing his pants and spilling his tea when our 10 other carriers showed up
I assume the US carrying only 54 Aircraft falls under the "fun" category as the 64-72 (yes I know theoretically up to 90ish) that both the Nimitz and Ford classes can carry would just mean the US out lasts the Brits as they have double the fighters and anti-shippers? If I remember right isn't that more of how the 2025 US vs UK went which had more US aircraft.
American carrier groups actually only have 48 strike aircraft on board, with the rest being support aircraft so 54 is actually more than would be usually found.
@viaticchart3139 24 is peacetime for Atlantic operations. She's also limited to that by the currently inadequate size of Britains F-35B fleet. She can accommodate 36 fighters comfortably, along with all her helicopters. Space for 20 fighters in the hangar comfortably, space for 8 by her starboard rear, and an additional 8 by her bow and central elevator. Additional parks by and between her islands for her full complement of Merlins and Wildcats too. That leaves her entire port side unused, which could otherwise line up 16 odd fighters at the cost of vertical landing spaces. With 40 aircraft she'll still have her runway clear, and about 6 vertical landing spots for helos and jets too. Affording similar reserve space for a Nimitz, with her take off and landing spaces clear, she can and often does manage about 48-54 fighters plus her other aircraft types. Thats 4 squadrons of 12, plus a flight for CAP. That includes also, 4-6 large E2Ds, 2 large C2 Greyhounds for COD, 4-6 Growlers for EW, and 6-8 Seahawks.
The us ships ciws preform badly compared to other countries I noticed... The carrier has ram, essm and phalanx but rarely intercept anything.... great video
I've said this before: when sending british F35s against stealth AA targets, I'd be tempted to lean into ASRAAM a little harder, like maybe loadout with 3 ASRAAMs and only one Meteor, or even go all ASRAAM.
Hey Cap, great video really enjoyed it. I was wondering if you could model the SEA RAM on the Arleigh Burke’s somewhat equivalent to HQ 10 from the Chinese
I love these, great work! Also, have you ever considered doing a land battle series? Maybe put up tanks and infantry or other vehicles for both sides with fighter cover and attackers flying overhead? Might be interesting. I know you’ve done land battles but I think the idea would be a large scale attack much like these ones. Let me know what you think!
@@Mobius118problem is DCs is a flight simulator, and the closest you're ever going to come to that is what they're doing now with their Iraq Iran War series
@@Wyomingchief No problem with that, just as the naval simulations aren’t perfect in this because as you stated DCS is a flight simulator. But it’s a fun thing to watch
Arleigh Burke Class Flight III has 96 VLS cells, Ticonderoga Class has 122 VLS cells. Both can take any mix of: RIM-66M surface-to-air missile, RIM-156 surface-to-air missile, RIM-174A standard ERAM, RIM-161 anti-ballistic missile, RIM-162 ESSM, BGM-109 Tomahawk cruise missile, and RUM-139 vertical launch ASROC.
I think his reasoning for keeping the ticos out is kinda dumb if you replace a single Burke with a tico the outcome of this video would be different simply because of the extra vls cells
@@Kalergiplansupporterexactly and to be honest there's no guarantee those ticonderoga's are going to be taken out of service. The Navy has been trying to do that for the past 8 years but Congress keeps telling them know and keep funding their overhaul. So I personally think will still have the Ticonderoga until at least 2030 and at that point they will probably decommission them once we have enough of the new frigates
The ffg-62 is not replacing the ticonderogas. The ship that will replace the ticonderogas is the DDG(X). The DDG(X) will also replace the Arleigh Burke flt.Is and flt.IIs
Ironwinkle - I think he got promoted to Commodore in 2028? Great one, Cap. Hope GR Baby and Mrs GR are doing well. A little Rewenge for sinking all our fleet, I suppose.
Was a great battle, I'm glad we're both on the same side! Would love to see these strategies put together having US and UK vs China and Russia. The UK Spear 3 & 5 combo would go lovely with the US Tomahawk & Mako combo! For this one it was a shame the AI crapped out and used up all the precious Asters on the Tomahawks and that the F35's didn't fire the Meteors as well as the AI fires them from the Typhoons. I think that would've made it a much closer battle overall. Probably still a USA win, but closer for sure. Cap, please look after yourself.
I have criticism of the viewer feedback: We've seen success in damaging enemy vessels when there is a saturation of the enemy's countermeasures with large numbers of missiles or through attrition and the enemy running out of effective countermeasures. We've seen repeatedly that all of the carrier groups are capable of shooting down missiles when they arrive in few numbers. If the Chinese were to use their 600 mi range missiles, at 600 mi, there'd only be a few missile able to reach the opposing carrier group and they'd be shot down. Then the fleets would have to close the distance to utilize the rest of their weaponry (Shorter range Ashp Missiles, and Ashp Planes). To Cap's point, it'd be boring to watch a handful of missiles fly 600 mi, which he'd likely cut down for time, get destroyed by countermeasures, rinse and repeat until they exhaust their supply, then have the ships close the distance, which he'd also cut down for time.
Just remember kids, damaging the array would be easier and disrupting communications and targeting techs is far more important. Spoofing with electronic means would easily overwhelm defenses and allow radar damaging munition to lead the way for lrasm.
You gotta do another full human battle like this again. I remember when you did one before and it was great but an updated one with all the new technology and mods would be sick
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Cap lost his shit this episode and I'm all here for it!
He's coming apart at the seams.
1.5 speed made it even better.
This was like watching my nephew watching an Alabama football game.
ive never seen cap get so excited before it makes me happy to see and proud to be america and better that any other country
😅
Seriously, the rollercoaster of emotions Cap runs through in this video is enough to give you whiplash. I've not heard a grown man make these noises in such a long time... Great video as always, well done.
I am only slightly annoyed you didnt make uk red team. Give us a little 1776 redcoats vs blue coat throwback!
By the time I realised, the mission was half built and didn;t have enough time to re-make.
@@grimreapers Oooh, do you think the British & American ships & planes could be given skins with corresponding red or blue coats, with tri-point hats & Revolutionary War-era garb? Maybe CH could fashion them some powdered wigs?
@@FunnyQuailMan War? it's not a war. It's a policing action. If you do it from 1776 America loses hard. As is proven by American Armada being destroyed by a inferior force.
@@FunnyQuailMan that would be freaking sick!
@@grimreapers Here's a standard Red VS Blue! Just so happens to be the Long awaited 3rd rematch! U.S. Carrier Fleet VS Russian Carrier Fleet!
Kuznetsov Class Carrier, Air-Air MIG-29KR's with R-77M's, Anti-Ship SU-33M's with Kinzhal's, 5 Gorshkov's, 1 Kirov, and 1 Slava! VS Ford Class Carrier, Air-Air F/A-18F's with AIM-260's, F-35C's with Mako's, 2 Arleigh Burke's, 2 Constellation's, and 2 Ticonderoga's! Please Cap lol I've been making this request in one form or another for years now😅🙏
People who complain regarding realism.
A - ITS A GAME
B - GR VIDEOS NEED TO BE ENTERTAINING
can't have "realism" in a future setting anyway
I think some of the things that are being said are important why in the world would you replace lrasm by the US with mako.
Because Mako is more capable of defeating missile defenses. HALO is what is going to replace LRASM irl and the specifications look very similar to Mako just bigger.
C - The UK group would fight as well as ever but alas, we will name the captured ships, Tea Party, Stamp Act, Sugar Tax, and Pine Tree Riot! and the colors are wrong way 'round, and if you got this far relax it's all in good fun like watching the Royal Marines try to play American football drunk!
This will be entertaining! Long awaited 3rd rematch! U.S. Carrier Fleet VS Russian Carrier Fleet!
Kuznetsov Class Carrier, Air-Air MIG-29KR's with R-77M's, Anti-Ship SU-33M's with Kinzhal's, 5 Gorshkov's, 1 Kirov, and 1 Slava! VS Ford Class Carrier, Air-Air F/A-18F's with AIM-260's, F-35C's with Mako's, 2 Arleigh Burke's, 2 Constellation's, and 2 Ticonderoga's!
Good battle. Back in my USN days I went aboard a UK ship to help with an equipment repair.
The offered me a beer.
Therefore, I would NEVER condone a US vs. UK naval battle. Respect!
Haha, come over for all the beers my friend! Bezzie mates forever!
1:39 see this is what I like about this channel, he reads our comments ,pays attention to what we say and explains why he can’t do that, I like him because he doesn’t ignore us.
( I commented if he could give the anti-ship aircraft air to air missiles )
Roger thanks.
@@grimreapers you can't use Ticonderoga bc they don't have Tomahawks... come on man😐 lol they're mostly there for defense anyways. Plus* that's kinda like saying, cant use these ships bc NSM doesn't reach/come into play...
@@grimreapers you say it's not realistic to use lol I say it's more unrealistic to not use ;)
That goes for Slava and Kirov as well*
@@Anarchy_420 You obviously have trouble with comprehension, the man said he can't do something it is what is move along and just enjoy the video or not.
@@JJ-1-1 you obviously have trouble with being a jerk off. They can do it and are choosing not to! Lmao I'll make any request I like👌👍
Cap's unbiased commentary is commendable.
Great battle, fantastic video!
Oh man, Cap was in rare form for this one! 11/10 would listen to Cap losing his mind again.
I love being a valued viewer.
It seems like the launch button got stuck for the US fleet for those spear 3s. Hell, they don't even fire that many at the Chinese hypersonics from what I've seen.
yeah, .25 kdr seems insane for slow small cheap missiles
Crikey that was full on. Can't belive the US carrier went down , looked for the longest time they would clean sweep the UK. Thanks for the battle Cap
36:36 “tttttthhhhhhhpppppp!” Cap, 2024
lol my baby makes that noise.
31:57 "Shoot, yes! We're firing at America!! At eh pppppp..." 🤣🤣🤣🤣
He was so excited. The he saw the Aegis wall coming in.
I can actually envision you at ten years old sitting on your bed with the sheets pulled over your head and playing battle with your toys in your little tent world.
No sir, I didn't see you playing with your dolls again! (c)
This would be a great scenario to add 1-2 humans on each side.
Carrier Group Battles.... YAY - Go team UK!!!
Love this series.
Fun fact the US Navy is fairly close to equipping it's ships with high energy lasers. It has one on ship for testing right now.
So is the UK, interesting times
Same with UK.
The energy weapons and railguns the US are deep into testing at the moment are both BAE hardware, same with the cool cloaking tech both peeps are testing at the moment (the "invisible" tanks are really worth having a look at)
@@PurpsUK2 I would, but they are.... invisible :P
@@PurpsUK2 If you're talking about the Adaptiv camouflage it was an experiment from decades ago and went nowhere....
Yo Cap! Please!🙏 Long awaited 3rd rematch! U.S. Carrier Fleet VS Russian Carrier Fleet!
Kuznetsov Class Carrier, Air-Air MIG-29KR's with R-77M's, Anti-Ship SU-33M's with Kinzhal's, 5 Gorshkov's, 1 Kirov, and 1 Slava! VS Ford Class Carrier, Air-Air F/A-18F's with AIM-260's, F-35C's with Mako's, 2 Arleigh Burke's, 2 Constellation's, and 2 Ticonderoga's!👍
The Russian fleet cannot be their fleet if we had our arms tied behind our back lol
@@khriswildt5633 way back when, Russian Fleet beat U.S. Fleet bc they were able to get close enough to use their big guns, and they beat them twice! Lol now I kno a lot has changed since, which is why I've been askin for this request in one form or another for Years*! I just really want to see the rematch/matchup now and with the changes I've asked for essentially make it as balanced as possible! Should be an epic battle!✌
My proposal for the US is F-35s with AIM-260 for long range and AIM-120s for medium range in a 2/4 configuration for long range anti-aircraft capability and medium range for keeping the cost to a reasonable extent.
@@Dimitris_Datseris F-35's will smash MIG-29's and SU-33's all day no matter what! Which is why I've requested The Air-Air to be between F/A-18F's with AIM-260's VS MIG-29KR's with R-77M's to make it as balanced as possible! F-35C's have Mako's and SU-33's have Kinzhal's!✌
@Anarchy_420 I'm starting to get bored with American carrier group versus Russian carrier group. The Russian Navy is rather pathetic these days. 😢
UK: It looks like we're in trouble, fallout boy.
Great carrier battle and hilarious commentary.
Great video Cap! Really entertaining stuff. My only suggestion is you should have posted this video next Thursday …. It’s a very special day here in the US 😁
This is the most entertaining video yet! Love your emotional comments.
Why did you give up LRASM? As far as I have read Mako has not even been selected (yet) for full-scale production or use by the US. But LRASM is already operational and they are ramping up production. If you're trying to make an interesting scenario I would have the US equipped with a mix of Mako and LRASM.
I'm also curious when we will see the ship launched versions of the LRASMs. Also, maybe seeing the US fleet with the Zumwalt launching its hypersonics could be fun as well.
@@XrandomnessX Yeah I don't understand why the Navy is moving so slow with developing VLS launched LRASM. That seems like much better use of money than upgrading old Tomahawks.
My personal opinion is that submarine launched LRASM is a complete war winning combination.
I would also love to see them integrate the new hypersonic missile for Zumwalt into these simulations. Maybe we just don't have enough info about it yet.
@blueskiestrevor5200 the Navy did mention the Zumwolt was being upgraded as of now to get hypersonic missiles if I recall
Because this is set in 2027-2029, the LRASM will most certainly be in service but the HALO program should be coming to completion and Mako is probably very similar to HALO if quite a bit smaller. Giving everyone next-gen weapons but the US would be unfair.
@@mattseller148 Are you suggesting that LRASM is not a next-gen weapon? I reject the idea that all future weapons most be hypersonic. I think a group of stealthy, smart missiles with large warheads are just as if not more dangerous than a handful of hypersonic missiles.
Cap's commentary is the absolute cherry on the top for these vids. :) TY Cap!
Holy snappin' what a battle! The UK has really punched above it's weight in all of these carrier battlegroup fights so far, and to actually take out a US carrier (albiet at the cost of the entire task force minus 1 beat up destroyer) was DAMN impressive, especially as it was an almost literal strike from the grave. GREAT fun to both watch and listen to. Hope there's still more to come!
Actually they lost that entire fleet because there was still at least one more if not two more flights of makos coming in.
@@Wyomingchief True. A total wipe then. Still an impressive and expensive scrappy fight against the world's most powerful navy.
@@exidy-yt Supercarrier shouldent have died, US wasted all their best SAMs on crappy 500 knot missiles, but still very impressive for britan.
@@STURYANPHUAYEWLIANGWould also argue that the UK wasted most of their Asters on Tomahawks
That was the most hilarious video ever from GR - not b/c America won but b/c of Caps' brilliant narration. How about we just agree to stay friends? We do have 10 more carrier groups to send, as you mentioned.
To address the long range missile complaint you talked about in minute 2, you could start with two complete CBGs and model just the long range attacks in single player, then do the actual multiplayer battles with the resultant states of the groups.
I would love to see the US with a mix of mako and LRASM, maybe half the super hornets have mako and the other half LRASM
Hi Cap, I have a slight complaint which is that it is somewhat unrealistic to have 4 type 45s in the same place at once.
Having 4 at sea at once is already pushing it, and we would likely need to spread them out to protect some of our other ships as well.
For reference, currently the most we have ever had in one place was 3 for a photo shoot, and that was a decade ago.
Great narration today. The energy and excitement of the Upper Class Twit of the Year competition.
The most exciting video i have seen. great job cap..
It is really cool to see these simulations constantly improve with each iteration. With every new video, they get better and better, and more realistic.
Damn. US lost a carrier. Damn we are only down to just a measly 10 nuclear carriers.
still lost to an inferior Force tho moral damage would be higher than the actual losses
@@outrider425 did it lose though? One side lost 1/11th of its naval carrier strength compared to the other losing almost all of its naval carrier strength.
@@outrider425they clearly win bozo they have 11 carriers
If UK had used Sea Ceptor instead of Aster to defend the MSTs, I think it would have been a draw overall as both sides would have had very good defences for what they are facing
if UK was actually competent in this they could have beaten US, F-35's should have flown higher, they should not have used all there asters on easy targets.
Whenever I see the Abbreviation MST I just think of Mystical Space Typhoon from my good ol' young'un Yugioh days before responsibilities, good times.
@@EnglishScripterYep, just finished the video and my god if we had played better we would have won!
Spear 3 overwhelm strategy is the only time I can remember USA running out of missiles
@@ARandomCustodian Grade A reference
Honestly, I think the UK has a chance of at least only losing one or two ships if they simply use Sea Ceptor over ASTER 30. They were a lot of Makos tho.
Also kinda wish Cap gave the UK more CAP to take on the anti-shippers, and made the SPEAR 3 squadron of F35Bs beast mode (up to 12 SPEAR 3s each). They were never really detected apart from a couple, and still sapped all the US SAMs
America: Stay down your done!
Britain: i didnt hear no fkin bell!
Yeah except cap cut the video before that last British ship was destroyed. There was still another flight of makos coming
As a Brit, this hurt but was massively fun. Super good the US are allies!
Britain have a really nice little future carrier group, especially that SPEAR 3. Can only imagine how good it'll be IF the UK retrofits the QE/PoW to have catapults
I thought it went quite well, we sunk the most powerful nation on earths carrier...
@EnglishScripter you all put up a darn good show especially with the several layered defense that we (the us) have built in our destroyers
@@andrewbogard2411 Yeah shows how powerful our new weapons are, also if the AI was not on the US side, we could have done better.
@@EnglishScripter oh yeah, but we lost an entire carrier group. In fairness, China and Russia haven't come close historically in these big GR battles
@@andrewbogard2411 I think the UK still has some ways to go but the Royal Navy may be fine for decades. But it must be mentioned the SPEAR 5 anti-ship is still a long term thing (2030), it'll likely be Tomahawk. Which may still work with the UK's strategy of SAM wasting and big meaty strike when they're out of SAMs ( 1 SQ of SPEAR 3s & Tomahawks, 1 SQ of Storm Shadow/Harpoons/NSM)
Perhaps when this is revisited in the future we will see CAMM-ER and perhaps even CAMM-MR too.
Camm-Mr will only ever go to sea in the Polish navy and not the RN unless it can still be quadpacked instead of dual packed. Camm-Er maybe as Land ceptor uses it and MBDA are now confident it can still be quadpacked in sylver and mk 41
@@lukeallison3713 The UK is co-developing the MR variant with the Polish, with the army requesting longer range air defense systems and public opinion massively supporting the implementation of GBAD it would make the most sense. It was also announced that they would be procuring the larger, longer ranged version of the SAAB Giraffe radar in recent years.
Daul packing is perfectly acceptable for naval missiles. T-26 could carry 16 MR missiles in a single block of MK-41 cells and still have room to carry a potent 16 cruise/asroc type weapons (on top of the 48 standard CAMM). The T-31/2 could carry even more. It would be a really great home grown solution to increase wider area naval defense that's come under question recently as we had only been able to put a single AAW destroyer to sea in response to the Houthis attacks when many other nations were able to put multiple, smaller AAW vessels to sea.
Hey Cap! Hope you are feeling well at the moment! Id love to see this battle take place with 2-3 escorts instead, sort of like out on normal patrol, then qll out war breaks out, reduced air wings ext. ❤
After this I'm thinking of doing a realistic verions with more realistic setups and distances etc.
@grimreapers Simply a brilliant fight with commentary to match! I too voice an opinion 'not to leave gear off the table' even when the other side can't match it ... & even if it mitigates entertainment a bit. It's why the gods created fast-forwarding after all! 😛 Even if only the occasional battle now and again.
Well if you're going to do that then the British don't and won't have that many f-35s because they've got a split what they're getting between two carriers. And the Americans are still going to outnumber them in escorts
I think the Meteor is benefiting from the AI not continuing to notch, they notch and then turn back around allowing the slow missile to reacquire or get the next one in the line. If it was human or they weren't in a perfect line it probably wouldn't do so well.
Imagine someone making a compilation of all grim reapers‘ weird noises
😂😂 One of the best battles yet, Cap!!
One thing is for certain, DCS’s target deconfliction is absolutely horrifying! A U.S. or UK CSG would not blow its load that fast.
I love it when CAP loses it like that. He should commentate a football game
From all of these I've seen, what a come back!!!
One of the most enjoyable videos in a long time - loved it
Britain vs France?
Would also be nice to see some stuff from the Japanese or the germans?
They already did UK vs France, and as much as it pains my half-French heart the UK got that one in the bag. Unless France has FCAS, they just cannot compete with the F-35B
However, keep your eyes on CurrentHill, because he's got some German assets cooking up...
Admiral189 also has got some Pasta on the grill too...
As far as Japan is concerned they are mostly the same as the US.
@@totalNERD-eo7wx Yeah but they were quite scuffed I would like to see the new and improved systems used. Maybe even the new french destroyer the ronarch, i think its called?
@@EnglishScripter Still, I don't think it would be much different.
I just looked up the specs for the Ronarc'h, and it isn't _that_ much different from a FREMM, although there could be any number of differences on the inside...
A video that I would kind of want to see, though, is the UK and France together vs something else, like the entire Northern Fleet + MiG-31s and S-400s or something.
@@totalNERD-eo7wx The northern fleet is mostly submarines though, and older destroyers.
Go America!! If we don't dominate, I'll cry myself to sleep. Thanks for your work sir.
This was, by far, the most nail-biting scenario in a very long time!
Well created, Cap!
Ps-where’s Sock?
Cap melting down was worth it for this blue on blue escapade. Lucky for both sides we are allies... for now anyway.
Great great production there Cap!
Thanks Cap, that was fun! See you in the next one.
Best one by far
Great commentary.
Freakin' Awesome Entertainment
Brilliant example of a pyrrhic victory! Well done!
Had me in stitches!
Yes, I had to look up how pyrrhic was spelled.
very entertaining, hats off to you Cap!
Excellent commentary by Cap!
One of the most entertaining to date. To borrow your parlance: Riveting!
The Brits may have pulled a draw out of nowhere, but note that they dont have a carrier or its escorts anymore. The US still have another 10 carriers, and I’m pretty sure we’ve got a new one set to launch this year.
Still, great fight they put up. Im glad they’re on our side.
You do a great job, don’t worry about our complaints too much.
Question for everyone, would Peregrines be a better anti-stealth load-out than aim-260’s?
Those plucky Brits. Hugs, Cap!
While the French Navy Aviation force doesn’t use F-35’s and are limited to the Rafale: I would love to see what they can do against American, British, Russian and Chinese Navy’s. They do have formidable a formidable navy, and while they may fail- it would be fun to see. Italy can fit in here too.
I would also love to see some smaller match ups of Danish, Dutch, German, Swedish, Finnish (all using joint air force with naval powers). Ie: maybe a Baltic and Northern Sea joint Op battle against Russia. This would remind me of the 4 day Taiwan battle you did. That was epic and would love to see more of it❤
Excellent job. Sorry about your lost.
Brilliant well done Cap
I love being a valued viewer.
8:18 Cap is British? I thought he was Australian.
Lol Cap is so into this! I've never heard him so invested.
LOVE THIS GUY
I absolutely enjoyed that!
You could almost create this commentary by grabbing the most excited snippets from other GR vids.
Also, I sense that Cap may be sliiiightly partisan 😂
When you said "Bollocks!" - I spat my tea out laughing. Such a British response.
Cap is worse than a crazy football fan lol
The amount of missiles spent on spear 3 is frankly ridiculous imo, who would waste all of the SM-6s, SM-2s on 500 knot missiles? And the amount of them fired at one load alone is crazy.
Good game cap much respect to you for putting the aircraft carrier and fleet battles
It seems as though Britain and America have had the most effective offence so far, what with the American MST/Mako combo and the British Spear 3/Spear 5. Not what I expected, and a very big departure for the NSMs of the previous series.
The thing that surprised me is the effectiveness of the relatively cheap and low tech SPEAR 3 paired with F-35.
@@grimreapers You should use Spear 3 EW, it can jam and acts as decoys, the spears 3 would then get too close for them to all be shot down.
@@grimreapers Yeah, it's really effective at draining SAMs and clearing a path for the Spear 5s.
Regarding the Type 26, The first one has been more than laid out, It's currently being fitted out, ie having its systems installed ect, The second will be floated out of the construction shipyard and over to the fitting out yard in August, Just a couple of months away from now, The third is beginning construction currently...
As an Australian, i would really like to sea the Hunter class (Australian type 26) and see how it compares in this type of scenario.
like our hunter class can potentially hold a similar weapons load but American/Norwegian;
a potential armament is: 76 missiles total
(+torps, i was surprised the City class isnt equiped with torpedo launchers on ship)
- 48 ESSM (using 12 MK-41)
- 12 SM-2/SM-6? (tbf we could also just pack it with another 48 ESSM's)
- 8 long range attack (tomahawk block? or even something similar to SPEAR5?)
- 8 deck launched canister launched NSM (we could fit another 8 if we wanted to aswell, though tbf that depends on the available top weight as our radar is already considerabley more heavy)
and i wonder what the Ceafar Radar (CEAMOUNT 2) panel array can do, compared to the ARTISAN 3d radar spinning array.
another fantastic video as always
... and c'mon Cap. One of the first things they told us in boot camp was "If you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin'.".
34:48 perfect camera shot !!
It's like listening to a football (Soccer) game in England!
Brilliant episode!
Be cheeky and try a rematch but USMC+RN vs USN?
He’s so happy when they destroy one ship of our fleet while his fleet is at the bottom of the sea, but he’d be pissing his pants and spilling his tea when our 10 other carriers showed up
I assume the US carrying only 54 Aircraft falls under the "fun" category as the 64-72 (yes I know theoretically up to 90ish) that both the Nimitz and Ford classes can carry would just mean the US out lasts the Brits as they have double the fighters and anti-shippers? If I remember right isn't that more of how the 2025 US vs UK went which had more US aircraft.
Well the problem is you're not including the ew aircraft the Greyhounds and tanker playing so that's actually about right
American carrier groups actually only have 48 strike aircraft on board, with the rest being support aircraft so 54 is actually more than would be usually found.
@@tryannosaur and theLiz would have a war time wing of only 24 F-35B. the 36 is at surge which would then bring the Ford up to 60-72 combat aircraft
@viaticchart3139 24 is peacetime for Atlantic operations. She's also limited to that by the currently inadequate size of Britains F-35B fleet. She can accommodate 36 fighters comfortably, along with all her helicopters.
Space for 20 fighters in the hangar comfortably, space for 8 by her starboard rear, and an additional 8 by her bow and central elevator. Additional parks by and between her islands for her full complement of Merlins and Wildcats too. That leaves her entire port side unused, which could otherwise line up 16 odd fighters at the cost of vertical landing spaces. With 40 aircraft she'll still have her runway clear, and about 6 vertical landing spots for helos and jets too.
Affording similar reserve space for a Nimitz, with her take off and landing spaces clear, she can and often does manage about 48-54 fighters plus her other aircraft types. Thats 4 squadrons of 12, plus a flight for CAP. That includes also, 4-6 large E2Ds, 2 large C2 Greyhounds for COD, 4-6 Growlers for EW, and 6-8 Seahawks.
The us ships ciws preform badly compared to other countries I noticed... The carrier has ram, essm and phalanx but rarely intercept anything.... great video
Absolutely amazing battle. Thanks for the video. Im sure if we were red, it would be the opposite. Yk. But oh well. At least we are allies irl.
This Is By Far The Funniest Video I Have Seen.
Luckily the United States has more aircraft carriers than the rest of the world combined😂
I've said this before: when sending british F35s against stealth AA targets, I'd be tempted to lean into ASRAAM a little harder, like maybe loadout with 3 ASRAAMs and only one Meteor, or even go all ASRAAM.
Hey Cap, great video really enjoyed it. I was wondering if you could model the SEA RAM on the Arleigh Burke’s somewhat equivalent to HQ 10 from the Chinese
It should also be on the carrier plus a few ESSM for its own self defence
Big question I have: Is there a reason both CWIS and SERAM self defense units never fire on the carriers, like the US Nimitz?
Cap, you and your enthusiasm make these videos my friend. Hope you get well soon!
A rollercoaster ride of emotions, vocal contortions and fortunes!
I love these, great work! Also, have you ever considered doing a land battle series? Maybe put up tanks and infantry or other vehicles for both sides with fighter cover and attackers flying overhead? Might be interesting.
I know you’ve done land battles but I think the idea would be a large scale attack much like these ones. Let me know what you think!
No pressure, just curious
@@Mobius118problem is DCs is a flight simulator, and the closest you're ever going to come to that is what they're doing now with their Iraq Iran War series
@@Wyomingchief No problem with that, just as the naval simulations aren’t perfect in this because as you stated DCS is a flight simulator. But it’s a fun thing to watch
Your work ethic is nuts cap, hope your voice gets better
Arleigh Burke Class Flight III has 96 VLS cells, Ticonderoga Class has 122 VLS cells. Both can take any mix of: RIM-66M surface-to-air missile, RIM-156 surface-to-air missile, RIM-174A standard ERAM, RIM-161 anti-ballistic missile, RIM-162 ESSM, BGM-109 Tomahawk cruise missile, and RUM-139 vertical launch ASROC.
I think his reasoning for keeping the ticos out is kinda dumb if you replace a single Burke with a tico the outcome of this video would be different simply because of the extra vls cells
@@Kalergiplansupporterexactly and to be honest there's no guarantee those ticonderoga's are going to be taken out of service. The Navy has been trying to do that for the past 8 years but Congress keeps telling them know and keep funding their overhaul. So I personally think will still have the Ticonderoga until at least 2030 and at that point they will probably decommission them once we have enough of the new frigates
The ffg-62 is not replacing the ticonderogas. The ship that will replace the ticonderogas is the DDG(X). The DDG(X) will also replace the Arleigh Burke flt.Is and flt.IIs
What a brain tickle of a video!! Keep em coming!!!
What do they need to stop Spear 3? Lasers. Would they not have them by then?
Also SEARAM that neither the carrier nor the destroyers had which would add a few close range missiles to defend the closer shots
@@viaticchart3139 C-RAM, not SEARAM
Ironwinkle - I think he got promoted to Commodore in 2028? Great one, Cap. Hope GR Baby and Mrs GR are doing well. A little Rewenge for sinking all our fleet, I suppose.
Why are the Hornets only carrying four Makos each? The F-35 can carry six, so the F-18 has to be able to carry more.
Was a great battle, I'm glad we're both on the same side! Would love to see these strategies put together having US and UK vs China and Russia. The UK Spear 3 & 5 combo would go lovely with the US Tomahawk & Mako combo! For this one it was a shame the AI crapped out and used up all the precious Asters on the Tomahawks and that the F35's didn't fire the Meteors as well as the AI fires them from the Typhoons. I think that would've made it a much closer battle overall. Probably still a USA win, but closer for sure. Cap, please look after yourself.
I have criticism of the viewer feedback:
We've seen success in damaging enemy vessels when there is a saturation of the enemy's countermeasures with large numbers of missiles or through attrition and the enemy running out of effective countermeasures.
We've seen repeatedly that all of the carrier groups are capable of shooting down missiles when they arrive in few numbers. If the Chinese were to use their 600 mi range missiles, at 600 mi, there'd only be a few missile able to reach the opposing carrier group and they'd be shot down. Then the fleets would have to close the distance to utilize the rest of their weaponry (Shorter range Ashp Missiles, and Ashp Planes).
To Cap's point, it'd be boring to watch a handful of missiles fly 600 mi, which he'd likely cut down for time, get destroyed by countermeasures, rinse and repeat until they exhaust their supply, then have the ships close the distance, which he'd also cut down for time.
Just remember kids, damaging the array would be easier and disrupting communications and targeting techs is far more important. Spoofing with electronic means would easily overwhelm defenses and allow radar damaging munition to lead the way for lrasm.
You gotta do another full human battle like this again. I remember when you did one before and it was great but an updated one with all the new technology and mods would be sick