Vim As Your Editor - Introduction
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remember folks, vim can seem hard to learn, but at least is more satisfying than learning a new js framework every few months :D
XD ikr
Maaan, spitting facts....
vim is easy but emacs 😟
Vanilla Framework is the best
And it's gonna be relevant for much longer than an average JS framework.
A great thing about learning Vim is that you can say "i use vim btw" to every single person you've encountered. That feels awesome
Sex Haver energy here
Couple that with "I use Arch btw" and everyone looks at you like you're a god
@@WallaceThiago i use arch btw
there are actually no other reasons to "learn" it
I use Arch and nvim btw
I was trying to learn Vim motions for YEARS with little to no success. Then I hit the SUBSCRIBE button, and, holy shot, within MINUTES I was blazing through code with the power of coconut oil on my side. Thanks Prime, couldn’t have done it without you.
The testimonies just keep coming in. I don't lie. I tell the truth, I'm glad that you've helped
inspirational story :)
I already hit sub two videos ago, I had to use Vim to teleport back so I could do it all over again, but since I used Vim it was all BLAZINGLY fast!
I don't have a reason to disagree somehow
I've not got subscribe yet and I can tell that my 1337 Vim skills are missing because of it. I know the moment I press subscribe then they'll get unlocked and that would be scary for the world, hence why I'm holding off.
Vim got me out of depression. Thank you Prime for showing me joy through Vim.
Is this sarcasm? xD
@Giant Gosling me too!
@@Dudik28 You'd be surprised how many times learning new things literally pull me out of the depth of my suicidal thoughts 💀 Random things like learning Vim, RegEx, LaTex, or some biological and geographical facts about cute animals.
@@chachan4142 i'm glad you're better ❤
@@Dudik28 Learning new things can trigger enjoyment and feeling of accomplishment. For devs learning new language/framework/editor is the same.
I remember 2 years ago watching Primeagen using vim made me try to learn it too, I probably binged all of his videos back then. Within 2 weeks I was already proficient enough to go faster with vim than with mouse/keyboard, 2 years and a half later, probably the best habit I've built in my professional life. It does really make a change
This is truly the best pitch for why someone should learn vim
🐱👍
Does that mean I should put Vim on my resume? Will I get more interviews?
@@Chiramisudoprobably should if you're a vimlord or ask chatGPT for another opinion
These timelines have me convinced!
You don’t need to be as fast as Prime, even just a 10% improvement in speed over your current is very satisfying.
Honestly, a 0% improvement in speed but where you don't destroy your wrists with a mouse is worth it.
@@wardm4 No more limp wrist!
@Dair Smith you're sounding a lot like a node js stan 🤔
The problem is that I’m already 80% as fast as prime in vscode so using nvim is kind of annoying. But I’ll get there eventually
@@barefeg Same. I feel similar. I'm gonna give VIM a shot b/c I'm curious + VIM seems esoteric👍🏿 so I'm gonna jump in. haha
Timestamps, Time stamps
00:00 - Introduction
00:25 - Vim Motion vs Vim the Editor
00:48 - About the Video
01:12 - Use Vim Mode in your current editor
01:27 - Mistake when learning Vim
01:49 - My approach to learning Vim
02:05 - Subscribing will help in learning Vim
02:18 - Modal Editing in Vim
03:15 - Modes in Detail
04:51 - Mixing numbers with motions
06:11 - Commands in Vim
10:55 - This lesson was the hardest part
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The most appealing thing with vim for me is that when I use vim I kinda feel more satisfaction from coding, trying to do stuff with as few keystrokes as possible is pretty much like playing the game.
I was balzingly fast with VSCode, and switching to vim at first felt like a brain stroke. But after you overcome this initial moment it's jus clear pleasure. Also I became better with touch typing :)
Same here. I’m still not able to leave vscode for that reason. Btw what did you do to migrate from vscode’s multi cursor? I hear in vim that’s not recommended
@@barefeg yeah that was the part I was most afraid of, but I don't find myself needing multicursor as often as I did in VSCode.
If I really need to change multiple instances I just go with :%s/word/changedWord/gc (or whatever flags you need), also I usually copy that word that I want to change so it's faster to just paste it after the first '/'. I really don't miss multiple cursor that much.
I think this is a great mentality. It's about the joys of coding
For what people use multicursor for I usually do q to record a macro, do the operation I want. Then use @ to run that macro. Often with a search and a jump to next motion. If I recorded the macro to a, using qa, then I'll often just run the operation some times, like maybe ten: 10@a and then what I wanted to do has been done 10 times. There's also the way of using a visual cursor, and hitting capital I for insert, then it'll insert what you write on all lines at the same place.
Basically, you do different things rather than multicursor.
@@barefeg kakoune has multicursor, helix is something like a fusion between vim and kakoune.
man you're not just any professional programmer.. you're a grate teacher... with passion like this in every one of your video. every one will love programming
:) ty ty ty
grate teachers are rare nowadays. there's big demand since grates nowadays are more sophisticated than ever. I often get confused trying to get the lemon peel for my pancake batter
@@chrism6446 ik chris it's not that deep. Still bet Prime would be a great grate teacher tho'
I've been trying to learn Vim for 8 years and as soon as I clicked Subscribe all of the Vim motions instantly came to me. Fantastic work as always.
Hey man, genuine thanks for this. I started this morning as I had a good opportunity for some practical practice (deleting a bunch of old code blocks interspersed across a work application). I'm still a little slow but I can see how this will be much faster. Not taking my hands off my (split) keyboard without vim motions already makes a big difference. I'm going to be flyin' after I get the motions down.
FYI to others starting out using the VSCode extension. There is a setting to to turn on 'smart' relative line numbers based on your editing mode. If you're in normal mode it will use relative numbers and insert mode will use absolute.
I use vim everyday, so these basics are second nature to me. However, I wish that I had this sort of tutorial when I started.
well, if you watch the other videos in this playlist you may be very pleased. They are very geared towards those who are experts. Its my thoughts and reflections on things vim.
I still need to finish off macros and file nav, but for now, i am working on the basics
The most important thing to grasp is that, while vim will seem hard for awhile, every skill "accumulates" into the foundation for bigger skills, and you'll never look back and think, "Learning that was a waste of time." Somehow, that process also does something to enhance getting into a programming flow zone, so there's knock-on effects above and beyond just being more efficient at typing code.
Learning Vim, and more specifically learning from ThePrimeagen turned an interest into a full blown passion when it came to development and software. The cool thing about vim is it’s closer to a sport than really anything I can think of regarding computers.
You literally can practice things and improve over time, and there’s always new things to learn. Then diving into Neovim and even other editors like emacs/helix becomes a personal journey of discovering your own likes/dislikes and workflows.
10/10 worth the initial struggles.
Re: "You literally can practice things and improve over time, and there’s always new things to learn." Sure? If you are mindful of what you want to practice, and this is it, go for it. I've had phases where I switch keyboard layouts or editors. But I think it is silly to offer this justification as a reason to do Vim; it is tantamount to saying "Learn X so you can practice X!"
To people not using vim, I can confirm that clicking the subscribe button does actually make learning vim easier. Trust me bro 😉
I trust you 😀
Yeah, I can also confirm that!
Trust us, bro!
Yo I coughed all over it and I'm still slow, what's wrong with me?
@@RoryIsNotACabbage Your name is Rory.
@@roger0p920 Thank you 😊
I have been using Vim motions for a month or two and it is just amazing. First week was painful, second week was alright and after 3 weeks I was as fast as I had been before.
Now I’m really comfortable in the patterns that vim motions is based on. I have caught myself going “I wonder if…” and then finding that yes, in fact it did work.
Seeing vim motion basics laid out so plainly makes me wonder why I didn’t learn to use them years ago. I’m going to start learning them on a side project.
I already do use (neo)vim on the daily, but it's nice seeing such a good walkthrough of the basics! Hopefully this gets more people to learn and appreciate our ways 😌
I'm already at this exact level Prime, which I got from your FEM course! Just getting these basics down make a huuuuge difference in speed already. Looking forward to finally taking the next steps for more blazingly fast programming. Great content, keep it up!
Dude, I've been trying to figure out VIM and you nailed it into my head. Great delivery, thanks for doing this!
The first round of these tutorials changed my whole editing paradigm. Excited to see what comes from the update!
I've been using VIM motions for over 10 years now (still learning a lot) primarily with VsVim for Visual Studio. I also use the VIM plugin for VS Code. Both are really good. I want to use NeoVim for my daily driver but my god it's a lot!! The amount of configuration is huge to get it to the point where I can be as productive as I can with the other tools. I've never been able to get it to that point so I use it for smaller tasks.
This is an excellent introduction to the advantages of using Vim. Using the Vim plugin for VSCode almost broke me for three weeks when I went cold turkey, but now I'd never go back to trying to remember crazy keyboard combinations like CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+F6!
Thank you for focusing on motions rather than the program, it does make it much easier to adjust. With this approach I've slowly migrated over to NeoVim for most things and Vim motions wherever NeoVim isn't available or practical.
I forced myself to switch to vim exclusively after watching your first series and it helped me tremendously! Now when I use any graphical text editor I have to clean up a lot of :w and vim motions, but it's worth it. Vim is the greatest!
I finally went all in on using vim bindings in VSC**e just before finding your channel. I already miss motions whenever I'm not in a text editor, especially the VSC**e integrated terminal. So I will probably be eyeing nvim as my dev environment soon-ish. Great timing!
For some team projects, I have to use VSC**e so I use neovim inside its integrated terminal for the most part.
@@roger0p920 Oh no,
please dont do that.
Just run nvim on native terminal.
Why is VSc**e required?
lol
Please please continue this series, very good to understand and on point!
I use Vim since 2016 when I wrote my masterthesis in LaText, because it was a nice addon to learn Vim while just writing text and not code. I really felt into love with the motion and the fact, that I could get rid of the arrow keys while typing something. Also the fact that you just have a lightweight editor which could be set up to a huge IDE was an exiting thing at this moment. Today I use it especially as a plug in in VS Code and Visual Studio. The biggest advantages in my oppinion is, you can use the basics keystrokes on every unix based system and even on windows you can use the git bash for doing some quick changes/commits or so. You can change configurations on every linux server or wrtinting some commit messages while using git. The second thing is, that you can really get rid of the mouse, the arrow keys and most of the different short cuts of an IDE. Everywhere its pretty much the same, when you are using vim (commenting, saving, finding, navigation,...) and your hands are always in the same area of the keyboard, so no jumping with your fingers and that makes it pretty fast.... for those who wants to experience the benefits without learing all the stuff and practicing a lot, I reccomend Vimum as a browser plugin, for navigating through a webside without using the mouse. This works, so good, so smooth and you get an impression how it could be, if you use vim as an editor or plugin in your IDE.
I'm about to become the slowest coder ever with vim, but I think in the long term, learning the vim motions will be well worth it.
I learning vim months ago with all of this tips that Prime give in others videos and what I can say is: YES, THIS WORKS!!!
I started with VSCode plugin with hjkl and at some point you will need more.. and boom you start using NeoVim... and you will need find files, moving around project so I started use Telescope, but now I only want change between 2 or more files, so I started Harpoon... and things begin start more fast, focus and productive!
I love vim, its funny and everyday you can learning a new thing. Certainly this will improve you memorization!!
So Thanks Prime!!!!
The timing of this video is perfect. I have just embarked in my journey to learn VIM. I've been wanting to dedicate time to learning it for years and now I'm completely determined to doing it.
perfect timing!! just started using vim a week ago, i can already see it’s amazing
I tried many times through my career to pick up vim, but then I hit subscribe on this video and now I can use vim fluently, I also can eat concrete, speak perfect German, everything compiles on the first try, my mother is proud of me and I am now dating a model, who rather appreciates the coconut oil
After you showed the jumping (5:25) with I was immediately like "Woooo, I need this!".
Currently I've been using AceJump plugin in Jetbrains IDEs, but it requires more keyshortcuts, which can be sometimes usable, but mostly not, in my case.
Nice!
Thank you for doing this video. Made my jumpstart to vim. I could see the benefit of editing with vim as everything is mapped to a keystroke, instead of combination of keystroke and mouse clicks which I had to do with multiple editors I had to work with so far. Also excited to see this is supported in all editors using a plugin.
Love how these videos are presented. Keeps my attention.
Holy shit! Subscribing to PRIME actually makes learning easier. Thanks for the tip!
LETS GO
I migrated to Vim by your previous series (about a year ago)
But, I will watch this series too.
jazakallahu khairan 💐💐
hey! ty :)
You sir have blown my mind, I've always used vim when on linux for basic editing. But I had no idea that it had these motions and went this deep. I'm definitely going to be following this series, vim motions is definitely something I want to start using. Thank you.. +1 sub
I find hilarious that I use vim on and off for small projects for years now and I still haven't learned everything that it has to offer. learning vim is an never ending journey apparently. nice video love your energy
I hit Subscribe and, would you believe it, it made learning 469% faster! Thanks Primagen!
Thank you. I am a braindead minor, and even then, I learned a lot from this video already. Super excited for part two!
@@richardlyman2961 ?
@@bobanmilisavljevic7857 Despide my name, I tend to not act like an emo
i keep coming back to this video every few months. Finally I am using vim daily now and slowly its getting better and better.
thank you prime for the inspirational videos. vim changed everything for me. coding is such a pleasure now, i cannot ever go back.
The biggest reason I use "a" over "i" sometimes is when your cursor is at the end of a line. "i" puts you before that last character meaning you have to arrow over if you want to appending to the end
To avoid arrows and force myself to use hjkl, I switched escape/capslock keys (as it was set in the original keyboard Bill Joy used to create Vi) and it was the best thing I could've done. Vi was specifically designed for that. Now I just can't stand hitting Escape moving my hand all the way up. I just hit it with my pinky. I also remapped arrows to hjkl so that way I wouldn't get tempted to use them back then when I was learning Vi.. A game changer.
@@uldershelby7761 hi I was really interested by the caplock thing could not figure out any good way to map it, any advice ?
@@maman14141414 Sure. I just added this line to .xinitrc (not init.vim) because I don't use Gnome/KDE (in that case you need to add this to "Autostart Apps" or something like that and it should also work out of the box:
setxkbmap -option caps:escape
You'll never want to go back to the default Vim keyboard config.
@@uldershelby7761 thanks bro i will sure try it
I loved the relative number lines. Checked if I can do that in emacs, it turns out you can, and I am now a happy relative line user.
Good job TP, really good! I think this is the best starter video on Vim i seen yet. Keep it up legend!
I just subscribed and suddenly all vim motions just naturally come to me. Thanks for the video!
Tim Pope with a Pope hat 😂
I've been using vim for about 4 yars, using your workflows, tips, etc it has been my right hand, but since my field is now ML and data science, we need to plot and visualize metrics, curves, etc all the time, we're forced to use a cell based IDE like jupyter or vs code, it's so painful but I don't see any other way lol, I'm still usimg a vim emulator, but it hurts so bad haha, I'll still watch everythin you do :)
LETS GO!
Pretty sure you can have an org doc in emacs do all of that, but it's a handful !
I have been looking at setting up neovim for a while. Between this and your vimrc video, I definitely have a good starting point
"k will obviously go upwards" I feel I'm already starting to lag behind.
I don't want to sound like noob, which I am, but isn't it more obvious to go upwards with the up key?
I can confirm that by subscribing to the channel it made my learning faster and easier!
same here
I subscribed and went from fast to blazingly fast
YASSS! Updated VIM series! Thanks Prime ♥️
My coding assessment proctor recommended this YT channel. So far I'm loving it just because of this Vim video.
Next lesson please:
- How to move through directories
- How to open multiple buffers/files at once
- How to create a new file
- How to move a file / multiple files
- How to delete a file / multiple files
Preferably in some kind of OS independent way.
dont forget to to use UNIX job control. ctrl-z and run a couple more vi's in other windows. !ls is too klunky for me. I prefer to suspend to a shell.
"..to someone who can become an EXPERT (shows picture of the king tpope)"
Prime, your comedic timing is the best in the dev world (even if thats a low bar)
Best of the worst is still best
I was using VSCode for years after its beta, but after subscribing to Primeagen I felt like I already know 80% of all vim commands, now I switched my editor with some complexities in configuration, but almost overcame them already!
Thanks again your vim videos made my vimming a lot more optimized and I am still trying to improve luckily this video popped perfect 👌
casually showing off you write rust too LUL
btw
But, why tho
if you have never seen a person work well in vim, then you would never understand
@@ThePrimeagen Fake 10x developer shit sure is a great youtube brand, so I respect the hustle.
@@whatisrokosbasilisk80 skill issue, imagine touching ur mouse
@@finndotbin The skill issue is being so hooked on hacker movies that it never occurred to you to actually accomplish anything with the ordinary tools instead jacking off with silly command line utilities.
You are truly an inspiration for me. Thank you for your content.
I was waiting for this video for long time Prime, you rock it can't wait for the other parts
So I was just randomily watching your videos, after finding you on Tech Over Tea (Brodie's padcast) (I have also seen you in my recommended but never really watched your videos until Brodie's podcast), and then I find this video in which you mention a hjkl game, right as I was bingin your videos and thinking "Man, I'm good at (neo)vi(m) keys but I wish I could find a way to make myself start using hjkl and stick to it" and then you introduce your game! Felt like perfect timing for sure.
I've recently discovered that the best way to learn something is to watch a video like this about 20 times while I practice. In school, you generally learn something once or twice and then start trying to memorize the important details to cram it into your brain. But I think a better way to learn something for the long term is massive repetition.
that's what i have been waiting for!!! Awesome!
Thanks for mentioning/creating VimBeGood! I've now used Vim keybindings for almost a year and consider myself pretty proficient with them but did the "noob choice" of practicing with arrow keys. Think I'll spend some time with this to fix my muscle memory to work with hjkl. The game is actually stupid addicting for some reason 😂
Yes, I knew that you would have basics series on the editor. After NeoVim setup (thanks to your video :) it's time to dive in. I actually worked with it already for a few days and learned some basics Visual/Insert and copying/pasting, but I feel like I need to get comfortable with moving around words, paragraphs, etc. Let's go!
Great video! I've been a vim casual for a long time, but finally decided to learn it for real. Thanks!
You can also do before CMD. Meaning something like 2d2j is valid and would delete 4 lines.
I love to see you doing this. I began with vi on various UNIX decades and ago and vim on Windows and Mac since. I fully believe it’s faster to use vim than most GUI editors. I also abhor emacs.
Shortly after subscribing I was able to use my new-found knowledge of Vim and the word skip motion in particular to determine the last digit of pi (it's '1'!) Seriously, I've been shying away from Vim since my days as an Amiga user in the late 80's. Looking forward to learning more and getting my efficiency levels up and my mouse usage way down. Thanks!
What’s really, really strong is the regex-based search and replacement and embedded storage in this. It makes vim an extremely strong text process tool.
Thank you! You inspired me to switch to Vim a few weeks ago, I have not done well and I'm back in my old IDE..
This is what I needed :)
Just want to say thank you to you, Primeagen. Your video helps a lot!!! ❤
I've been waiting for this! Thanks!
I started using Vim for VSCode, I believe it's only the motions and oh boy was I impressed, still learning little by little but each search and replace makes me giggle like a child xD.
Thank you for showing me how to use Vim (motions) Prime!!! Already subbed!
Very informative. For the first time ever, I find myself interested in learning Vim. I think I will go ahead and install that VSCode plugin.
lesss gooo boiiii
I was waiting for it
Thanks for sharing your knowledge on this prime. This really helps someone who wants to learn vim.
Thank you for evangelizing Vim, there really isn't enough Vim hero cycles on TH-cam and I just want to say, as someone who struggles with Vim, that I really appreciate your enthusiasm and voice and I hope you are happy, because man Vim is hard and I am not happy right now.
Just wanted to say I've been learning programming so came across your channel, when you said you take inspiration from playing sc2 for your hotkeys I instantly became a fan for life! What race did you play?
This nudge finally got me back to trying vim and this time round it’s not as hard as the previous 100 tries 😂. Thanks!
I finally learned vim after years of planning. Thanks for the video.
Primeagen made me learn vim, now is two months that i am using vim plugins everywhere. And i love it. i am aiming to move to vim editor in future. great video prime
The best tip I've used when learning the hjkl motions is to turn off the arrows. Changed my behaviour almost instantly.
Using Vim motions and a jetbrains IDE is the best of both worlds for me.
FINALLY!!! I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE!!!
Great video Prime! I feel that yanking, deleting, and pasting was a bit glossed over in this one, but I'm excited about the rest of the series!
I used vi a long time ago, so some of this is coming back to me pretty quick. However, I forgot that i put you to the left and I was totally lost when I wanted to try and add text to the end of a line. You save my day when you reminded me of a!!! Now I feel Canadian : )
I remember watching your old vim series 3 years ago. Its been vim since then and haven't looked back ;)
I just subscribed and turned into VIM expert lol. Thanks bro, you saved me a thousand hours of learning curve
I was surprised how much faster it was to learn from subscribing, Thanks Primeagen !
A more elegant editor for a more civilized (and resource limited) age. I remember editing config files remotely in nano....30 years ago. There was a time when special keys like arrow keys, backspace , Ctrl, etc, were totally hit-or-miss, what with so many semi-compatible terminal mappings. So vi saved you because it only used letters and punctuation. It didn't take me long to appreciate vi[m]. If you are a touch typist, you're automatically going faster on day one.
Finally got through an entire week using VIM and then switched back to VS Code for a particular reason. It physically and mentally PAINED me to have to stop and reach the mouse.
love it! it's so hard to find a good tutorial on Vim. And it's so overwhelming when you don't know what you need to ask. I'll be coming back and keeping diligent!
Thanks for these Prime. Your videos are like rare candy for me.
Holy moly, subscribing actually makes it easier
Thanks for those shortcut tips. Sharing this too might be helpful.
# comment multiple lines
- move cursor at the start of the line you wish to comment.
- ctrl+v (visual block mode), move cursor down (j key) til last line to comment
- shift+i (insert mode)
- press # add comments to first line
- press esc, # will to all the lines selected.
What a timing, just started, finally using vim as my primary editor. 👏