PS2 is Even Better After This...

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  • Playstation 2 is still worth playing, and this makes it even better.
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  • @tenchotenchev5606
    @tenchotenchev5606 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +86

    PCSX2 is the best thing that has happened to the humanity

    • @Kizzy_B
      @Kizzy_B 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      is it legal tho🤨

    • @tenchotenchev5606
      @tenchotenchev5606 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      @@Kizzy_B Yes it is legal. Emulators are always legal unless Nintendo decides otherwise. Mods for games are legal unless Rockstar games decides otherwise.

    • @JamieSnow-j5o
      @JamieSnow-j5o 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      of all the time

    • @vampyronline
      @vampyronline 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Nothing is illegal if you don't get caught. ​@Kizzy_B

    • @oOignignoktOo1
      @oOignignoktOo1 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I believe it's legal as long as you dump your own bios. If you don't dump your own bios like a lot of people do and just scourge one online then it's technically not legal but if you own real PS2 hardware I don't think anyone will question it.

  • @morris89swe
    @morris89swe 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    But don't we want the blurry and low res graphics when playing old consoles? Kind of nostalgic to me.

    • @MrSkullMerchant
      @MrSkullMerchant 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I want it 👍

    • @ineedandrenaline
      @ineedandrenaline 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Not me.

    • @asais1024
      @asais1024 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      That never was intended though if you know how those games look on CRTs. CRTs do 480i/240p really well

  • @Old_Hunter_07
    @Old_Hunter_07 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    I advise you never move from consoles. I tried PCSX2 and own a PS2 and tried the same games on it… there is nothing like playing PS2 on a CRT TV, the feeling will never fade.

  • @dr.pepperphdindeliciousnes1396
    @dr.pepperphdindeliciousnes1396 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    It'd be nice if the PS6 came with backward compatibility so we would have more use for our physical games. I highly, highly doubt that will happen but it'd be cool to have our old games upscaled and running at better frame rates. One can dream...

    • @mr.electronx9036
      @mr.electronx9036 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      foget it. PS6 will be the first "digital only" console, like steam deck

  • @notyourdad
    @notyourdad 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I have a 7 year old PC and PCSX2 runs well on it - I've only really tested it out a bit but a few games were very glitchy, but most seem to run fine. I'm gonna dive deeper into at some point when I feel like I have nothing better to do.

  • @DaddyDimmuTV
    @DaddyDimmuTV 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    welp i know what im downloading..

    • @roejogan1375
      @roejogan1375 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      If you wanna know all the big emulators heres the ones i use that work good. PCSX2 for ps2, dolphin for nintendo consoles, RCPS3 for ps3 and Xenia for xbox 360

  • @awhvex7188
    @awhvex7188 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Playing budokai 3 on PCSX2 with 10X resolution is god-sent. Looks like a remastered game fr.

  • @chloeloft
    @chloeloft 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The most important thing I recognized in this video was the speak on emulation. Emulation is so important for historical purposes of giving games a chance to stand the test of time when they're long forgotten, even by their initial creators. While physical media like us as people in society age, the medium becomes outdated due to that aging of technology so it really is only the best way that feels convenient. With being able to enjoy these games like how we used to; when we were younger as people. I can't even play most of my physical copies nowadays considering it's not capable to display a playable version of the game considering what time frame the game was made in. Is no longer compatible in a sense anymore, without getting an upscaler and that will run u like 100$ alone. Just to be able to perserve titles that should be treated with proper restoration in the first place. I know that can of worms will always be complicated depending on title's licensing and what not. But emulation really is the best way to enjoy this kind of stuff nowadays.

  • @Demonwicked
    @Demonwicked 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I thought of buying the ps2 again, but then I tried pcsx2 and I dont need to do that anymore!

    • @ineedandrenaline
      @ineedandrenaline 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yea, not to mention PS2 games have gone up alot in price.

  • @PedroPauloMota
    @PedroPauloMota 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hahaha it was great and hilarious hearing all the gratitude you have for the ones working on this stuff. Well said in many ways, this stuff is indeed awesome

  • @asais1024
    @asais1024 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    One thing that emulators can't do at all that is on the OG hardware, are the pressure sensitive face buttons that are used in MGS2, GTAs. You can get it back y using a DualShock 3 but there are so many people that just use a DualShock 4 or an Xbox 360 controller

  • @AnonymasFox
    @AnonymasFox 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Mans discovered emulatiom mid homebrew

  • @midnightstrike3625
    @midnightstrike3625 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Xenia is the Xbox 360 emulator and it actually runs fairly well on my 2 year old mid range laptop.

  • @ismael6864
    @ismael6864 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    wait until he discovers RPCS3

  • @KaylenZechariah
    @KaylenZechariah 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have a ps2 & ps3 and I like both

  • @AForceGaming
    @AForceGaming 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Wait till you try PCSX2 Nightly

  • @RushNZ
    @RushNZ 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    is there a ps3 version of this? like a pcsx3? theres so many ps3 games i cant find anymore that i'd love to play again

  • @PS2GAMER100
    @PS2GAMER100 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I play ps2 games on my phone with aethersx2 emulator and they run and look good on there and having a blast

  • @PapaS4c
    @PapaS4c 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just beat GTA SA, Cod FH, and a Medal of Honor game on my PS2 nd now I'm play Fallout NV on my Xbox 360

  • @SamClicker
    @SamClicker 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    the greatest console ever

    • @PS2GAMER100
      @PS2GAMER100 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I agree and still play them today but now on my phone with athersx2 emulator

  • @nimbusflamel8844
    @nimbusflamel8844 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    *struggles to keep my own source for emulation quiet*

  • @stalkershaw
    @stalkershaw 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    About ps3.. uhh.. i played my ps2 game on ps3 Fat for a couple of times.. because i only played my ps2 on the real console on CRT TV (its the most enjoyable and High quality way to play ps2) so uhh.. in ps3 Fat all ps2 games are being HD.. and more clean looks and thats soo awesome to play But then your Fat ps3 will be Jet engine..🤣 my advice is either play ps2 originally in Sony Trinitron CRT (its soo worth it that you can see Depth view on the graphics trough Real CRT experience😁👍) wich is the best way of owning ps2 and played it..
    Or just play on Fat ps3 and trough a hustle of Replacing Thermal paste.. drilling a hole on ps3 case to get more air flow.. or even crazy to make it watercooled ps3(wich is overkill since it will crazilly cooled down)
    But all and all i think playing a Real ps2 on sony Trinitron CRT was the best experience you could easily have without setting up emulator and without needing to have proper PC or specs to run the emulator.. ya know not everyone always having PC that support.. but an original ps2 and a CRT TV is way easier to do.. and the graphics are just better in person on playing it trough CRT..😁👍

  • @hitbm4755
    @hitbm4755 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    RTX 2080 Super is a great Graphics Card to have😂 Sure it is not the newest, but it was pretty much top of the high end back in ~2020. I am on a Radeon RX 480 8GB from 2016.

  • @LeKretch
    @LeKretch 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    0:40 Which ATV was this?

  • @Glitcher01
    @Glitcher01 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I do prefer original hardware though

  • @derekknowles5805
    @derekknowles5805 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Im playing GTA 3 ps2 trying to get 100 percent

  • @Angel_Peg
    @Angel_Peg 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dolphin emulator wii u switch are great ones too and reedream

  • @MidnightPodcastGaming
    @MidnightPodcastGaming 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    150,000% 👌

  • @lukaszb3304
    @lukaszb3304 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Most of this games you can play on pc anyway so what's the point emulating them? I'm really asking cos maybe I'm missing something.

    • @PS2GAMER100
      @PS2GAMER100 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The console has alot of exclusive games for it so that is the reason

  • @smartlibra2965
    @smartlibra2965 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I paid a fortune for my PS3 60gb. I had it Frankensteined. I haven’t played anything. At all 🤷‍♂️😂

    • @Kizzy_B
      @Kizzy_B 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😼

  • @fherlpz9816
    @fherlpz9816 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    First🎉

  • @TheRIkkyP
    @TheRIkkyP 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    Emulating PS2 on the Steam Deck was like the ultimate realisation of the dreams I had as a kid. A PS2 (and others) that I can take anywhere. We live in a pretty cool time for gaming. Well, old games anyway.

    • @cidanarch
      @cidanarch 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Me while emulating ps2 games on my phone

    • @inputfunny
      @inputfunny 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@cidanarch Okay...

    • @cidanarch
      @cidanarch 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@inputfunny Yes 🗿

    • @whydoyoukeeptalking
      @whydoyoukeeptalking 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Psp was already that or the vita no? Idk I have my OG fat ps2 so I can play all the dance dance revolutions and guilty Gear Accent Core 😊

  • @DymelRoberson01
    @DymelRoberson01 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    I agree! Losing physical media will suck even though it's heading down that road already. That's why I'll always love the 2000s era of gaming the last decade where collecting physical media really felt like something.

    • @shazmanbound1496
      @shazmanbound1496 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I still buy physical media in 2024. I buy music CD's, Cassettes, Vinyl records, DVD'S, Bluray movies, and video games. I don't have any streaming services subscriptions whatsoever. Im 42 years old. I will always prefer physical media over anything else.

  • @davidkofi8241
    @davidkofi8241 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    PS5 and Series x/s will never bring this experience🗿

    • @angryretrogamer7313
      @angryretrogamer7313 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@davidkofi8241 I played a bunch of PS2 and PS1 games on my PS5 and they play horribly. They cowabunga collection is almost completely unplayable as well. The emulation on PS5 is useless

    • @mr.electronx9036
      @mr.electronx9036 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      series X/S has at least, backwards compatibility for older xbox/360 games
      ps5 has none

  • @angryretrogamer7313
    @angryretrogamer7313 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I wanted to get into pcsx2 but since I haven't used a computer since highschool in 2001 I decided to just get Free HDD boot and a really good crt TV and I'm happy with it. I don't have to worry about being a computer expert to play it. Doing it this way definitely is not as good looking as the emulator but it's good enough for my simple mind. Thanks for showing me what I'm missing though. Maybe someday I'll can get into pcsx2.

    • @ineedandrenaline
      @ineedandrenaline 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Its not hard to understand how to use the emulator.

    • @angryretrogamer7313
      @angryretrogamer7313 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ineedandrenaline ik, I have a super console X that I learned how to use and mastered every setting on it. That's exactly why I'm sticking with fhdb for now.

    • @ineedandrenaline
      @ineedandrenaline 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@angryretrogamer7313 you do you. I gotta play in 4k

  • @hitbm4755
    @hitbm4755 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I also find everything moving to digital to be depressing. Going out to buy physical games or movies used to be almost like a social interaction where you would sometimes see a friend in the retail store or talk to other people about the same interests.
    In our country the majority of Music/Games/Movie stores have closed down and even half of our cinemas. At this time digital stores have greater specials more often, but things didn't used to be that expensive back in around 2009 when all these stores still existed.

  • @mr.electronx9036
    @mr.electronx9036 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It is a shame, that sony can't even put the software emulation on ps5...
    a multi bilion dollar company can't do it...let that sink in

  • @Jay_Digital
    @Jay_Digital 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Im still running my PS2 with a ssd and opl using component cables on my older tv I don’t particularly care much for emulation on PC because the people in my life see me play and then they’re like let me play so I just hand them controller two. FMCB isn’t always ideal but its easier to deal with. As a matter of fact I have a TV dedicated to the consoles of my childhood. I have a modded OG Xbox a Gamecube with an SD card mod and my PS2 with an SSD something about actually dealing with the console itself is just the best for me. Like on my PS2 I still use memory cards I know FMCB is capable of virtual memory cards but the memory cards are apart of the fun at least to me anyways.

    • @ineedandrenaline
      @ineedandrenaline 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Emulating at 4K is a whole another experience in itself. I can't deal with the blurry and jaggy 480p.

    • @elijahg8281
      @elijahg8281 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@ineedandrenalineTo each their own obviously, some people just enjoy the retro or nostalgic experience

    • @ineedandrenaline
      @ineedandrenaline 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@elijahg8281 I wouldn't say it's nothing nostalgic or anything about it since you are experiencing terrible picture resolution and draw distance.

    • @elijahg8281
      @elijahg8281 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@ineedandrenaline There’s no point in talking to you then lol

  • @Nigel222
    @Nigel222 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I've been messing around with PCSX2 lately. Just beat Final Fantasy 10 for the first time on it yesterday. There's so many random old PS2 games worth checking out.

  • @cyberdrizzt
    @cyberdrizzt 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I've been emulating consoles for decades at this point, still amazes me how much better older, especially 3d games can look through upscaling and texture re--packs.
    One thing I'd like to try, but have no access to a CRT TV is run a PS2 game at 4k or something on a CRT just to see how good it looks

    • @asais1024
      @asais1024 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      How would you even do that? Even HD CRTs only take up to 1080i. Upscaling and then downscaling would kind of work, maybe... There are 2 games that support 1080i natively and it's software upscaling, as most PS2 games are 480i

    • @cyberdrizzt
      @cyberdrizzt 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@asais1024 Ah sorry what I mean is emulated on the PC, rendered at 4k internally, then downscaled to your TV, no jagged lines, improved textures and frame rates, would be great on a CRT

  • @ShreddedAF
    @ShreddedAF 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This guy is basically the main character from Fight Club but never meets Tyler Durden and just plays games 24/7 with 3 cups of coffee a day.

  • @lettmons
    @lettmons 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I been playing PCSX2 lately, the new interface overhaul is awesome.

  • @raoufichigo4646
    @raoufichigo4646 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You should try rpcs3 for ps3

  • @Xanlovastin
    @Xanlovastin 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Xenia is one of the best emulators for Xbox 360, the process of setting it up isnt too difficult either. i played through the entirety of Red Dead Redemption 1 without any major issues, including undead nightmare!

  • @ignacio6454
    @ignacio6454 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Blurriness only exist on PS3 BC with PS2 games and PS2 consoles connected to LCD panels (no matter the cable!). But if you play the PS2 on a nice CRT using component output it looks surprisingly sharper, actually it looks sharper than any console of that generation! But if you go to composite on the same CRT it looks like sh1t. Original component cables on a CRT it is, and you will be in awe!

  • @ghost_tom_joad8530
    @ghost_tom_joad8530 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The only bad thing about PCSX2 is the input lag in some games.

    • @robotm99
      @robotm99 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      renders rhythm games basically unplayable, yeah

    • @ghost_tom_joad8530
      @ghost_tom_joad8530 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@robotm99 And certain missions like in GTA SA. Even using a wired controller I still notice it. Don't get me wrong I do use PCSX2 sometimes but I also use my PS2 with FMCB and OPL on a Trinitron. But I need them smooth cutscenes the emulator provides.

  • @arielaguilera96
    @arielaguilera96 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Love emulators like Dolphin and PCSX2 but there's something about playing on original hardware exactly as I did when I was a kid that emulators can't touch, the nostalgia itch hits way harder on my 20 year old PS2 than my PC or Mac

    • @ineedandrenaline
      @ineedandrenaline 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You're one of those people

  • @vagnernunes8021
    @vagnernunes8021 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    🔥 PS2 🔥

  • @IlmeriaVonLeinweber
    @IlmeriaVonLeinweber 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I remember maybe 11 years ago when I used to emulate PS2 loads, and could not get over getting such a high resolution.
    These days I still prefer to play PS2 on my CRT with a HDD mod. I feel so blessed to have had the PS2 in my pre-teen years.

    • @ignacio6454
      @ignacio6454 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Those higher resolution look like ass, they were never intended for those games, and PS2 emulation is still buggy, even today. A nice quality component cable together with a nice Sony CRT from the 2000's, Ps2 looks incredible like this! No bugs, no glitches, nothing, just awesomeness.

  • @Gaming-Enthusiast
    @Gaming-Enthusiast 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ps2 was a gamechanger in the gaming community.
    All time best console ever released.

  • @mnunfa1
    @mnunfa1 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ps3 emulation is making huge strides also....

  • @ScottReviews
    @ScottReviews 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I too dabbled with PCSX2 recently and I’m really impressed. I love my original console and playing it on a crt but also really cool seeing it upscaled on my monitor or taking it on the go with my steam deck. Anyway playing PS2 games is cool to me

  • @KyleYoung2012
    @KyleYoung2012 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I also suggest trying Xbox Dev Mode for Xbox One Series S and X, it makes certain games look way better than there original systems and it can play the whole entirety of Ps2 library just fine and the benefit is that you don't have to plug in a pc

  • @imonit1177
    @imonit1177 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    A 2080 is basically the equevelant of a ps5. It's a graphics card you could potential ride for another 3 years or so if you don't care about running your games on high settings.

  • @staminaman77
    @staminaman77 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hey man you should do a video on TyraCraft for PS2.
    Some guy made MineCraft for the PS2! Still in Alpha I think but it works pretty good and think it would be good content for your channel.

  • @smuludgn
    @smuludgn 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Full PS4 emulation is on the way. Waiting for playing Bloodborne with high framerates.

  • @KobatheASMRbiker
    @KobatheASMRbiker 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Glad to see ya join the emulation gang! Now you can play those rare and expensive games without paying an arm and a damn leg. Kuon, Haunting ground,
    Rule of rose, Futurama the game, etc.

  • @TheTruthBeToId
    @TheTruthBeToId 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Man, that looked so good. I just remember old games being so low quality. You could see the pixels on the cr tv.

  • @Jay-jm1qt
    @Jay-jm1qt 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    you need a PS2 and a CRT paired with component cables, it's the best it'll get

  • @tyriedle
    @tyriedle 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Your fucking awesome have a good week.

  • @svenstylesz
    @svenstylesz 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Welcome to the Emulation Heaven 🤝 Next: Dolphin Emulator (Game Cube/Wii)

  • @Punisher6791
    @Punisher6791 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    lol ive been using PCSX2 for over 15 years now.

  • @PickledPreserves123
    @PickledPreserves123 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You've taken your first step into a larger world

  • @xxcaveman25xx
    @xxcaveman25xx 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    man you had me laugh like 6 times. subbed 👍

  • @snizzol
    @snizzol 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    After the Ps3 most things got in the shitter.

  • @GAMER_PUNK247
    @GAMER_PUNK247 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Get PCSX2 nightly, even better

  • @AerytonRamshaw
    @AerytonRamshaw 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Absolutely fantastic video brother

  • @ThatsBroFromChicago
    @ThatsBroFromChicago 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Facts 💯

  • @leorelic
    @leorelic 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    PS2 Emulation is the greatest thing ever. just playing the PS2 library ALONE will get me going for the next 15 years
    also 2080 is more than ENOUGH GPU for PS2 emulation , the real thing is CPU anyway and if you have a 2080 i assume you have a good enough CPU in your PC as well. keep on Emulating

    • @TurnerTurnip
      @TurnerTurnip 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You can't run PS2 Emulation off your graphics card instead of your processor?

    • @leorelic
      @leorelic 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@TurnerTurnip what? that's not what i'm saying , i am saying most of the Emulation magic happens with CPU , it has to emulate the entire system. the GPU comes handy with rendering magic but it doesn't have to do much so 2080 is more than enough

    • @TurnerTurnip
      @TurnerTurnip 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@leorelic I'm not really much of a techie guy. But what I know is if I go into my nVidia settings from my desktop, it gives me an option to run a game from my CPU or my graphics card. I thought perhaps that option would also be available with a PS2 emulator.

    • @leorelic
      @leorelic 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TurnerTurnip well that's a different thing completely. you CAN do software rendering with just CPU in your PS2 emulator but it will be much slower or will have lower resolution , use your GPU when you can

    • @Manic_Panic
      @Manic_Panic 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TurnerTurnip Emulators are much more CPU heavy. Your CPU is the one trying to mimick original console behavior and it uses single threaded performance to achieve it so the more ST performance you have on your CPU, the better the games will run. For RPCS3 it's about how powerful your cores are and having a minimum of 8.
      The GPU is just for upscalling. For 1080p, I can actually just use my integrated GPU. I have a Ryzen 9 7940HS & 780M GPU and the emulators run like a dream. I just can't use very high resolutions like 4K.

  • @chassy7072
    @chassy7072 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    PCSX2 is amazing but for the games that dont work well in the emu i use one of my ps2s with the PS2hdmi adapter looks amazing on the 55 inch

  • @jessemarty8018
    @jessemarty8018 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    how did u get nba street to run so smooth

  • @smartlibra2965
    @smartlibra2965 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Own nothing an be happy

  • @jakesmith5278
    @jakesmith5278 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This guy hates his life.

    • @Cave_Monster
      @Cave_Monster 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He really doesn't.

  • @TruStoogeDrew.
    @TruStoogeDrew. 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Kevin what’s this lol