Let me know your thoughts on your favorite characters in Star Rail! Also just as a side note, tier lists are not meant to be taken as complete fact/ a lot of opinions are included :)! feel free to share your thoughts on what you think of our awesome roaster in star rail!
Ruan Mei needs her own tier, she's the best character in this game. She Buffs: -Everyone's DMG up to 68%. -Everyone's All-Type PEN RES by 25%. -Everyone's SPD by 10% of her own SPD. -Everyone's Break Effect by 20%. -Everyone's Break DMG by 50%. -Everyone's Weakness Break Efficiency by 50%. -Delays Enemies Turn. And if you have her Lightcone: -Buffs everyone's DMG by another 24%. -Regenerate everyone's energy by 10 at the start of each turn. -Restore 1 Skill Point after using the ult.
I do think when it comes to pull-value, she definitely has one of the highest, arguably the highest value, so I can see her potentially being in a tier of her own with that logic!
I’m curious about where the “underrated” tier actually go. Because underrated is only relative to how they’re rated…which they weren’t always. Some of them you did like specifically say though and that was good Otherwise loved the video keep it up :)
Descriptive tiers are confusing to me as I mostly listen to just the audio of videos like this. I understand the intention because some people baby rage when you say their character is C tier, but it super took me out of it.
Even if the game leaves her behind, Sushang will always be special to me. Also, Clara with Aventurine is hilarious. Those two plus Topaz and Robin is cozy. I’ve also used her to help my Seele, or put her in teams with no physical weaknesses so she’ll always attack when enemies do their turn.
Gotta say my favorite is still Sampo. The guy’s just super fun and snarky. Acheron takes the 2 slot for her badassery while still being kind to good people.
From what I've experienced so far, a must have or the backbone units(limited) are: - Acheron - Black Swan - Silver Wolf - Ruan Mei - Robin - Huohuo - Aventurine - Firefly (soon) I just thought that their kits have the most longevity and can be the core units of your team archetypes.
@@Entity000wastakenno definitely black swan too, she's a great dot character an a great debuffer, basically a 5 star pela on top of being a dot character wi unique interactions
I agree but I'd replace swan with Kafka, she is far stronger and less prone to being replaced in the DOT team. Even if there is another character that does what Kafka does but with biger numbers or slightly better you'd just play Kafka and the new DOT unit, retriggering dots twice as much would be a massive improvement.
uh idk if you'll read this but as a seele main the way we use seele is different from 1.0 we dont really depend on resurgence that frequently nowadays usually like the more damaging team is mono quantum but personally in terms of being consistent with the ults is what we do we use tingyun the damage is not the same but in terms of overall vs damage on screenshot the tingyun seele combo is just broken until we get another tingyun character or something else to help seele do her job like it was in 1.0 a little bit easier
The Tingyun + seele pair is definitely really good! I can see being consistent with the ults being very powerful for sure. Do you mix in more basic attacks now, or primarily skills + Ult spam? I definitely think seele has a bunch of potential, I mainly just thought I’d mention resurgence since it is a good part of her skill kit :)
@@Moonnverse you know that's a very good question that I was hoping you'd ask the awnser is yes we mix in Basic attacks to manipulate the action advance I personally think seele is still very powerful yet loads love to down play her without any solid proof or evidence because all the So called "Proof" on why she sucks had already been debunked
I would also like to point out that with Gallagher if you manage to sustain the team without needing to use skill points which obviously depends on the situation and can be difficult to do against enemies that debuff but he can technically be more skill point positive than luocha himself because Gallagher is mostly skill point positive and can advance his own action by 100% with every ultimate meaning he should be able to get 1 skill point more than a luocha with the same speed under ideal circumstances
ever since penacony came out ive pulled every new character + fu xuan and jingliu and that was when I just came back after a long break and these new characters have helped me sm to catch up the whole penacony cast are such good units and majority are so easy to build
they have been powercrept to hell unfortunately but i remembered QQ and Bailu performed stellarly on my MOC runs. the current MOC i used Bailu to clutch a KO on one of my supports then destroyed the Opera Trio with Acheron. She still have the Heal on Hit buff plus Damage reduction on top of it which makes your units tankier and of course the classic revive passive which have saved my MOC runs most of the time.
I still dont get how I can make Seele work great.. in my experience so far she has been the hardest to play right and she always underperforms. Im having way easier time with my JY and Blade than with Seele, and arguably their relic qualities are roughly equal. She is always placed high in tier lists and I wonder if its just me being a garbo Seele player or what.. what am I missing here? What teams do yall use with her lol help me
It may be the investment of said relics. If your relic quality is low, then yeah Jing Yuan and Blade are gonna feel better to play than Seele is. If they're mid investment, I'd say they're about equal. If they're high investment, Seele should definitely perform better. It really depends. It also depends on how you play Seele, her teammates, and the enemies you're matched up against. You generally wanna go for dmg per cycle instead of screenshot dmg like IL, Jingliu, Acheron, Ratio, or in some cases Argenti or Jing Yuan. Seele's main focus and strength is her turn manipulation and her innate speed boosts, allowing her to continously attack multiple times a cycle. Pair her with an action advance support like Bronya or Sparkle and/or an energy regenerator like Tingyun to get her 120 cost Ult up frequently and you'll have a very very nice Seele that acts pretty frequently. She may not do as much screenshot dmg as some of the other top tiers but that's not what she relies on. And that's not me saying her dmg is dogcrap. Her screenshot dmg can be very VERY high when given the right investment. And she can clear stuff pretty fast with that. And how to play her, you do want to pair with action advancers and try to proc Resurgence as much as possible. During single boss battles with no mobs, you want to get your Ult up as fast as possible in hopes to burst down the boss quickly. Tingyun helps with this. And one thing I do like to do is time my Ultimate to use it right before her next turn starts. If you didn't know, Seele's Ult actually enters her into her Resurgence state so she gets all those self buffs without needing to kill an enemy. Timing the Ult right before the actual turn can make sure Seele gets the Resurgence buffs on her turn without needing to kill an enemy. All in all, it really does depend on the level of relic investment, how you play her, and the teammates you use. Yes, Seele is very hard to play I'll admit. But when done correctly, she's on the level of some of the top tier DPS units because of her speed. Now ofc, more experienced Seele mains will probably explain this better than I can. I'm a f2p Seele main who also plays DHIL so maybe take this with a grain of salt, but I hope this helps
Hook is really funny on Wind 4pc set. Since her ult advances her forward by 25%, she effectively becomes a mini-DHIL with the additional 20% advance from wind set. Pretty copium, but really funny.
Id like to know your reasoning as to why you placed Jing Yuan in the great tier lower than characters like seele or boothill as personally that ranking is not correct if we're judging characters across the entirety of the game's content🤔
Id totally agree with seele its not 1.0-1.4 shes not that good, i actually have his team higher than hers but boothill is waaaay better i got jing yuan e0s1 ans e6s5 trust me he doesmt compare. Boothills single target is better than acheron on a three enemy wave. His single target damage. The guy is the best boss killer by a mile and he doesn teven have his best in slot relics.
I'd definitely move Jing Yuan a tier. He's the most versatile - in terms of types of contents he can clear - DPS on my account (admittedly I only have DHIL, Blade, Argenti, Ratio, Topaz, Himeko as 5* DPS). He routinely clears MoC 12 in under 3 cycles (or up to 5 if unfavourable element), comfortably does 25-40k in PF, great in SU, fast farmer and decent on auto. The same can be said about Blade to a slightly lesser extent: he doesn't beat others in solo damage but useful in MoC _and_ PF and can be solo carry _or_ a part of a dual DPS makes him valuable, imo.
i agree with this entire tier list inlcuding not being sure which tier jing yuan and blade should go in but i disagree with acheron's placement bc dps characters are the primadona of the team i think they should be chosen based on how much you like them or their playstyle bc of that no dps really goes that high for me bc if i didn't like acheron's playstyle i could just wait for a new lightning dps or wait for jing yuan/kafka to come back ofc same could be said about the rest but i think building teams starting with your favorite dps is the easiest way to build and there's so many ways to play supports depending on the dps you use plus once you have 2 sustains any 2 sustains you're fine but they still have astonishing pull value if you don't have enough sustains so i'd keep that tier the same but bump acheron down to very strong
I think Blade and Qingque should be higher since Jade is right around the corner. With Jingliu, Blade and Jade. Blade gets 2 stacks every turn plus another stack on Jingliu's turn so he can use his follow up attack very consistently. This then gives Jade lots of stacks for her to follow up attack consistently. As long as Qingque is E4, her enhanced basic can give Jade 6 stacks which is higher than hitting "all enemies on the field" since there can only be 5 at a time. If the enemies are weak to quantum then these 2 will work well together.
How ur logic make sense they should be higher because the character that buffs them isn't even out and have u personally tested the dmg number no there not out yet wait until jade is released before saying blade needs to move up
I think what’s missing from the “value for your account” discussion is the direction that the game is moving in. Looking at FUA strats, super break strats, unit synergies and specializations are becoming increasingly more important. Units like Robin, Topaz, and Ruan Mei that specialize in a particular archetype and can turn on other units (Robin adding her extra attacks to Topaz’s while Topaz generates lots of energy for Robin) are going to be more valuable than generalized units, especially as end game content is becoming more difficult. Just making your DPS act twice via Bronya or Sparkle isn’t going to be optimal anymore, teams will need to be more than the sum of their parts.
I can definitely understand this too. I was actually considering making a “meta” analysis sort of video maybe, where I go over each archetype on the rise in star rail, and which units are becoming increasingly important as time as gone on/is going on.
@@Moonnverse That’s a fair point. I think the game is getting to a point where you can no longer say, for example, “Ruan Mei is the best character in the game because she can go in any team”, because she’s not the best support for FUA anymore, she doesn’t go into Acheron debuff teams, Robin is equal or better for DOT teams and eventually DOT will get their own specialized support, etc. Going into year two I think units need to be evaluated based off their highest potential in their designated role. For example, I think Topaz is becoming one of the best units in the game because she’s so hyper specialized for FUA. She doesn’t go anywhere else, but she perfectly does everything that team wants.
good list, really like the reasoning behind them all. Honestly I see the potential of four stars but with the release of so many good 5 stars I have a hard time farming the mats for them.
The one thing I would disagree with on this list is the rank where sustains that pain to prevent your dps from getting straight up one shot are placed in. What I mean by that Is I hate running Gallagher with a dps that doesn’t have some random hp and def stats thrown on them. I’m not saying they’re bad because of this, I think they just shouldn’t be placed that high for some of them. The damage we receive has only gone up since the beginning of the game, so I’m wondering how we’re supposed to play pure healers if we keep going in the same direction? Saying “oh well I’ll just reset and hope rng doesn’t screw me” isn’t a viable option to me
Robin's party turn advance is just THAT cracked. She's the best support for FUA teams and just amazing for everything else. Definitely one of the best units in the game Also her songs slaps
Great video - really helpful for thinking about building characters that I have pulled but haven't built yet. My favourites are Acheron and Fu Xuan (pulled her and her light cone in v2.2)
Without giving any story spoilers can sunday be a playable character? I am at the start of penacony and I like his design. Btw I have topaz Ratio and Aventurine is ruan mei a good pick for them?
He might be playable but I’m not too sure honestly. As for topaz ratio aventurine, Ruan Mei is an awesome option with them! Her buffs can benefit the damage of the entire team :). She’s very universal with what she can provide.
Rm is good fo them if you don wan robin as a alternative fo her, not as good bu still pretty decent, otherwise tho you should jus go robin Edit: or if you can't get robin you could use rm till you get her, li if you don get her in time, bu rm is def best fo break teams so you don wanna hab to use her in other teams in cases where you can use break teams
Hopefully they'll release a harmony character which increases energy regeneration like tingyun but 5* version, it's really helpful for characters like jy and argenti
@@UltimatePollo3495 yea sry about acheron I forgot her kit doesn't work like that but other than her there's still others who could get benefitted from
Both are really nice! Which sustains do you have and supports do you have? I think either option would be very good for you, as Fu xuan can keep your team alive while Ruan Mei provides incredible buffs for your team!
@@Moonnverse well, I have Bailu, linx and gallagher, but all at E0. Also got a Robin as a buffer, so Idk if its reeeally needed, my fear is to spend all currency on them while not in the real need for it.
I’d go for Fu Xuan since you already have an awesome 5 star buffer but are lacking a great sustainer (Lynx and Gallagher don’t compare at all. & Bailu is good, but not nearly as good). - Fu is incredible & has been almost immortal for me. Hah I honestly rarely ever need to worry about or manage my team’s health when she’s there. So definitely think she’s worth getting now before her rerun banner goes away (also; who knows when Ruan Mei is getting a rerun). I was going to skip her too during her first banner - mainly cause I didn’t like her bubblegum magical girl design 😅 but also cause I was having trouble deciding between her and another - but wound up doing a few pulls, _and I’m so glad I did!_ Cause even though I also have Bailu, Huo Huo & recently got Luocha during his last banner; she’s still my go-to sustainer 90% of the time Anyways, good luck with your pulls no matter who you decide to get 👍
@@HollyClementine thanks for the answer. After I read it I pulled again and got fu xuan at 80 pulls total. Im still on 7k jades so I think Im still fine. I have archeron so I think for her team Gallagher might still be better for the debuffs, but for most of the content fu xuan will do better for sure.
Blade will always be my favorite character, but ngl is been hard to full star moc with him lately. If it wasnt for Acheron I aint sure if I would make it, gladly hes good for other types of content
I’d swap Bailu and Natasha or just move Bailu down next to Natasha. I pulled Bailu early on but I hated using her, her bounce heal is really annoying and feels so bad when it bounces to the characters that don’t really need it and leaves character that are low alone. I really like using QQ, QQ has randomness mitigation in her kit but the only mitigation Bailu has is her revive and she only does it once. You just let them die so yeah you’d better revive them! So Bailu feels even more random than QQ and in a healer is really not where you want randomness. So I would always use Natasha over Bailu. Of course these days I don’t use either because I have Luocha now. I really like Clara but I think they have some test when introducing things and if it’s good with Clara then they have to change it and add some rule that makes it so that Clara can’t really use it.
I gotta say, Bronya shouldn't be the most recommended for the 300-standard banner pull bonus anymore. Back then? Sure. Bronya was the best. But it was because there were too few harmony characters. With the situation right now, Bronya is barely used. I think Himeko is the more suitable option now since she holds her spot in PF.
Oh man, I thought I could find the answer. I don't know, should I pull for Fu Xuan or wait for HuoHuo in her rerun banner? I only have Natasha and Lynx as healer and my Aventurine with his LC does very well xD My plan is also to build a perfect DoT Team (Kafka, Ruan Mei, HuoHuo are missing. Currently running Guinaifen, Black Swan, Asta/Pela, Lynx/Pela), I have a perfectly units for FUA Team (but thinking to pull for Jade and switch her with Ratio) and I want to build a perfectly Super Break Team with my Aventurine (waiting for Ruan Mei rerun banner) So that I can kinda run excellent four teams in Pure Fiction situationally. I kinda want both, but I also need to save Stellar Jades for some other planned characters. It's kinda tricky.
Since you already have Aventurine I’d recommend pulling for HuoHuo over Fu Xuan. She’d be a great upgrade over Natasha and even Lynx. You also have a lot of time to save for Fu Xuan since she recently had a rerun and HuoHuo’s should he coming up
yes my account has every character and i have tested them all to a degree. Some more than others though, but this is merely my opinions on the characters.
Seeing that highest value tier makes me feel more regret for skipping sparkle. I don't even know why I skipped her. She's the only one I don't have on that tier, aside from Fu Xuan but I don't need her since I have Aventurine.
Honestly if you got Robin / Ruan Mei as your limited harmony character, you should be fine :). You don’t need every character in that tier, it comes down to which characters / teams you use the most
Using Persona 3 music before Reload lets goooo I lost my 50/50 on Robin and burnt my budget on C6 Acheron so I couldn’t whale for her... I love Harmony MC and Firefly, so I might pair him up with Firefly. Since I have Ruan Mei C0R1, I should be able to make a great team
Thank you for the video! I was able to get a good grasp of what characters I should focus on building. Unfortunately, I think it would’ve been better without the “underrated” tier, as it doesn’t actually tell you HOW good they are. Are they good? Strong? Incredible? As someone else mentioned, you did provide comments on how strong some characters, but I believe the point of a tier list is to show you who are the strongest within a single glance. But anyways, that’s just some friendly feedback! Goodluck!
Asta might be the most underrated character in my opinion. In a DoT team she can clear in 3/4 cycles, while Ruan Mei would save a maximum of 1 cycle in the best case scenario. She deserves more attention for those who want to play DoT teams and dont have Ruan Mei or want to use Ruan Mei in another team.
Why does everyone ignore robin TwT I get she's a kina f2p sorta robin alternative altho if you hab robin robin is better by far, an thas part of why asta is undervalued so to speak
@@p01nt_blank67 I never said she was bad, or tha anyone said tha, also no, depending on stuff she will be WAY more important an even tho asta can do fire bounce her buffs an stuff don compare, asta is a replacement if you don hab robin, an or rm an yea robins jus way more useful bu yea I agree asta has a place there, really tho we jus need to wait till a dedicated harmony dot character fo tha team or something bu yea the team is great an asta provides value an so does robin if asta can naturally apply burn stacks id say its personal preference between a way more powerful support or a decent bi more synergistic support bu idk if she can I don remba an if not no robins jus the preferred choice if you hab her, also she's better by way more than a slight margin in terms of support, it's jus can asta apply dots cause then it's about wether to use a dot applier (most sustain for dot besides huo huo already do fire dot) or use the buffs from robin to apply way way more, if asta does hab dot then she jus barely stretches back to be around robin in terms of kit fo dot
I really wanna pick Bronya from my 300 character selector but I have all of the limited Harmony characters so I think Himeko will be better 😬 I have the pick ready to go just holding off until after Firefly in case I lose the 50/50 which I totally won't right?
Well, better investment is which you like more, you'll be more likely to keep playing the more you mix well wi the characters an therefore the more fun you hab
Fun video!! Tbh, fo me....i think personally i think of things a bi different than most people ig, mainly, id consider characters like luocha bronya blade silver wolf black swan an bailu as a tier higher than currently, im not fully done yet wi the video bu im pretty far in an i jus did think id say tha as your alo more generous an therefore imo more accurate than most, an thas something i see universally is certain characters sadly get undervalued TwT great video im having fun watching it, currently im at the misha part, ill include other characters of the last few in a edit if i find more of these types of characters imo or jus remove this end part or put a note if i don Okay, final change, ive finished it, no new characters tha id change the spot of, great job again on the video
Oooooh fun, also yea, she's less strong than alo of the others bu she is strong....I typically don like her tbh tho cause her ult is a % not a guarantee an it feels useless...
imo kafka needs to be in incredible value as she is DOT herself, like without her nihility path is clunky to use and she will never be out of meta as long as dot is in play other than that , underrated tier is just confusing like they are either good or bad ( why does underrated tier even have a place in a meta tier list )
Kafka by herself is not incredible value, if you get kafka you need to get other Dot characters to compliment her, she is heavly dependant on other characters and doesn't offer good value just by herself.
@@Zephoz-214 hyper Kafka is still good, ofc not as good as normal dot comps but still decent enough to clear the moc in lightning focused moc and Kafka literally is the only one to use the nihility path to its fullest potential in all forms of simulated universe. If you say Kafka ain't in incredible value then acheron ain't in it too as she also needs 2 other nihility characters just to function unlike Kafka where she can hyper , duo or even run a three dot characters. If there is one dps characters which can be on that incredible value the first one to be on that is Kafka 💀.
I got boothill and he does crazy damage and that implant of physical weakness is goated. So if you have a good amount of Aoe characters I'd say Boothill,but if not Dan Heng would be good,both work amazing and since Dan Heng ain't coming for a bit u can get boothill rn and save
QQ's RNG as a downside gets overblown by content creators. As often as you get unlucky you'll get lucky. It averages out. I wouldn't say she's all that f2p friendly however. She really wants at least e4 and Sparkle is basically a requirement to use her comfortably in MoC. Also you probably want a limited sustain with her because she's made of porcelain.
That is fair! I typically get more lucky than unlucky when using her personally, but typically speaking I would definitely say she’s a pretty strong quantum character overall. I could understand the E4 want for sure since her Autarky is very powerful for more damage output. I can see the SP consumption being a notable downside to mention since it can be rough at times if you are low on skill points (Sparkle helps out a lot with this). Thank you for sharing your thoughts 😄!
To this day I will defend my homegirl Ruan Mei being a very worth it unit. Universal damage boost, weakness break boost, extended weakness break, can enable dual comps very well. The 1 unit I never regretted pulling. After I grab firefly I’m going to be saving for Huohuo and Acheron reruns because Huohuo is great and Acheron I’m obsessed with
If everyone's top tier - nobody is. This is waaaaaaay too top-heavy. And the underrated tier is more of a "undecided", since, you know... underrated compared to who? Like, is Serval underrated compared to Jing Yuan? No, she isn't. Much as I love your content overall, this was not helpful at all...
When I refer to “underrated” I am referring to characters that typically don’t really get much mention or shine. They are typically B Tier or lower on most tier lists I have seen, which is why I am referring to them as “underrated”. I also didn’t split up supports/sustains/dps into each individual category otherwise it would be split more often. I only placed one DPS character out of a large amount in the highest tier. I personally don’t think there’s anything wrong with acknowledging a lot of characters in the game have very high potential, and are good characters overall. If the video wasn’t really your cup of tea, that’s okay, it isn’t meant for everyone as there is definitely no possibility for a tier list to please everyone, as it is primarily subjective content. Thank you for the feedback overall though.
If I may also ask for additional feedback, what would you potentially suggest changing for the video to be more helpful? I wasn’t too sure how to fully go about the list, so any suggestions would be nice. Thank you!
@@Moonnverse I understand not wanting to separate them by category, that's perfectly fine. I'm just saying that if someone new to the game comes looking for recommendations and looks at this lists, what they'll see is "meh, pull for anyone, doesn't matter". And yes, I understand that you talk through the characters in the process, but I'm sure a lot of people just skip to the end. IMO, there should be more to it than "has potential". Like, sure, Luka has potential to do some damage. Is it really the same potential as Blade and Jing Yuan though? Will Jinglyu, who doesn't need any specific supports to do crazy damage provide the same value as Kafka who needs a very specific team for very specific conditions? Maybe. Maybe not. It's not my list, it's fine to have different opinions. I just think that a list that is this top-heavy is kinda misleading. And ok, let's say your definition of underrated is "compared to other tier lists". It's a perfectly valid opinion, heck, I for once think Natasha is underrated, but then instead of just putting them into the same group, put them where you think they belong. Right now, having, say, Asta, in "underrated" tier doesn't tell me if she's underrated but great, underrated but very strong, underrated but incredible value? This category is completely pointless. If you're undecided, just make more tiers, don't put them all in this "idk what to do with them, but they are probably better than you think" category. I'm sorry if I sound harsh, I don't mean to, I really appreciate your content, and it's hard to express emotions via text. And I'm definitely not here to argue for individual placements - tier lists are just opinions in the end of the day. I'm just saying that for how helpful and well thought-out your videos usually are... this one kinda isn't.
@@SimonCleric I can see the skipping to the end point, as then the missed out context could allow people to be unsure about why characters are where they are, I can’t really do much about skipping to the end though, since that’s missing out context. For the underrated tier, I mainly wanted to speak on why those characters are considered “underrated”, Asta for example, I mentioned her buffs + how she can work as an alternative to Ruan Mei on the DoT team. In the future though (if I make another one of these) I could try to say where they’d normally be placed (likely the Great tier?) and explain why I do feel like they’re underrated in general though. When it comes to pulling (other than the highest tier, since I do believe those sustains/supports/DPS have incredible pull value depending on your account) I would likely made a specific video for who to pull for specifically or at least my thoughts on that, and this video was mainly just one I made since I have been getting requests for a while now to make my own list and share my thoughts on each character. In the future what I could try is making even more sub categories potentially to help be more specific on the characters, for example if there was a DoT category, then the damage over time-centric characters would go there + the reasonings as to why they are there. Maybe that would be better? As for the last part, I understand it’s hard to express emotion through text, so don’t worry I’m sure you mean what you’re saying not to be rude, but give genuine feedback, which I do appreciate.
I hope you don't take any offense to this, but I'd love to see a video where you prepare a script beforehand, even just a rough script. It's clear your have a lot of in-depth knowledge about the game that exceeds even other content creators, as shown by your numerous tournament wins with high slill plays. But it doesn't get shown as much through your discourse. So many times where the words "just, very, of course, definitely" etc are repeated in the same sentences alone. A lot of times where words are used to ultimately say nothing or only to repeat something. Nonetheless, I'll still continue to watch and enjoy the videos regardless, and you should create your videos in whatever method brings you the most enjoyment and efficiency at once.
Most of my videos do have a script (except for showcases and tier list stuff like this video). if I were to ask, what would be good ways to discuss the game in a way that would be more thorough to the viewer?
Ruan mei is not that big if you can't break the shield then rm is mid as f... I top tier godly one is only acheron.she can break any shield in the game.she can dmg all enemies in the battle and she destroys them with brutal dmg She don't need rm if you have her your account is fine just be sure to pull for jaoqiu
Natasha was terrible for me ngl. She was my only sustain in the beginning, and I struggled so, so hard. I couldn't beat Aventurine with her, which is when I pulled Luocha. Natasha is, in my opinion, the worst sustain in the game. She just doesn't do enough outside of early game. I feel like she's just outclassed by literally every other sustain imo
I have most of your underrated characters built lol that’s why the game is fun get out of your comfort zone make a 2nd account and go for fun great job btw this was fun
I agree with sparkle best waifu, but strongest character is definitely not FX. Aventurine easily outshines her in the sustain category alone and Ruan Mei's buffs are too insane for her not to be classified as the best character
fu xuan lets u play literally any character while buffing them at the same time she's pretty much abundance, preservation and harmony all in 1 other preservations have no healing fu xuan gives insane dmg reduction to the whole team + CC immunity she is the strongest character ever made in a hoyo game and will never be power crept unless they make the same kit with bigger numbers she gives dmg buffs, makes ur dps immortal, makes u immune to cc, heals and does fairly high damage
@@DJPonko she already gets outclassed sometimes an she jus...she isn tha overly useful, there's a reason the others are used an considered equal, they provide so much they equal her, tha hasn changed, she's strong yea, bu not a game changer more than any other healer, whereas Aventurine an huo huo could make it on this list cause they are wholly necessary fo there teams, whereas replace fu xuan in any team she's put in an it's doable, this is talking abou characters you build your team around, she's jus another sustain she isn broken an it's been shown people are starting to realize her not being as broken as they thought she was, she's still strong bu not op, any sustain besides luocha an some 4 stars don hab utility bu all sustains of 5 star limited rarity hab harmony type utility, I get you like her an she's strong bu she's not tha strong, also the character I'd say who actually was the strongest changing things up an being powerful is acheron as she completely changed team building around her an is super unique an strong
@@AshxnStars ruan Mei isn best character, an her buffs aren the best, fo super break teams yea bu thas a given an thas it, robins kit is alo stronger altho I would consider her either fo this, yea she's strong, bu her unique uses aren as used as her general use leaving her to be functionally jus li the other supports, being equal in power I mean
Let me know your thoughts on your favorite characters in Star Rail! Also just as a side note, tier lists are not meant to be taken as complete fact/ a lot of opinions are included :)! feel free to share your thoughts on what you think of our awesome roaster in star rail!
I’m bored so here’s time stamps for quick reference:
1:25 Tingyun
2:31 Asta
3:37 Serval
5:06 Bronya
6:41 Seele
8:06 Gepard
9:08 Natasha
10:16 Pela
11:15 Clara
12:16 Sampo
13:38 Physical Trailblazer
14:10 Hook
15:03 Luocha
16:26 Jing Yuan
18:16 Yanqing
20:05 Bailu
20:35 Qingque
21:54 Sushang
22:50 Fire Trailblazer
23:40 Yukong
24:40 March 7th
25:22 Dan Heng
26:19 Himeko
27:06 Welt
27:51 Kafka
28:36 Silver Wolf
29:21 Arlan
29:49 Blade
30:45 Luka
31:14 Dan Heng IL
31:56 Fu Xuan
32:19 Lynx
32:47 Guinaifen
33:33 Herta
33:48 Jingliu
34:11 Xueyi
35:00 Topaz (& Numby)
36:16 Argenti
37:05 Hanya
37:49 Huohuo
38:19 Ruan Mei
39:30 Dr. Ratio
40:35 Black Swan
41:20 Misha
42:00 Sparkle
42:53 Acheron
44:27 Twink
45:45 Gallagher
47:02 Boothill
47:43 Harmony Trailblazer
48:15 Robin
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Not the twink lmaooo
Ruan Mei needs her own tier, she's the best character in this game.
She Buffs:
-Everyone's DMG up to 68%.
-Everyone's All-Type PEN RES by 25%.
-Everyone's SPD by 10% of her own SPD.
-Everyone's Break Effect by 20%.
-Everyone's Break DMG by 50%.
-Everyone's Weakness Break Efficiency by 50%.
-Delays Enemies Turn.
And if you have her Lightcone:
-Buffs everyone's DMG by another 24%.
-Regenerate everyone's energy by 10 at the start of each turn.
-Restore 1 Skill Point after using the ult.
She also literally drugs your character when you first meet, so she deserves her own tier for sure, garbage tier %)
I do think when it comes to pull-value, she definitely has one of the highest, arguably the highest value, so I can see her potentially being in a tier of her own with that logic!
she is the best harmony uhshsxhw omg
also her follow up attack deals so much damage
Is ruan mei lc even necessary, i put it on Robin instead.
You keep adding to the opening and as a Boothill Stan I'm all here for it 😂
I love boothill personality LOL
I’m curious about where the “underrated” tier actually go. Because underrated is only relative to how they’re rated…which they weren’t always. Some of them you did like specifically say though and that was good
Otherwise loved the video keep it up :)
Descriptive tiers are confusing to me as I mostly listen to just the audio of videos like this. I understand the intention because some people baby rage when you say their character is C tier, but it super took me out of it.
That intro lmao wtf, thanks for the video too been wondering what some folks options on this was since it's been a minute
LOL the intros have to always be unhinged, but i hope you enjoy! (i think this is my longest video on my channel lol)
Even if the game leaves her behind, Sushang will always be special to me.
Also, Clara with Aventurine is hilarious. Those two plus Topaz and Robin is cozy. I’ve also used her to help my Seele, or put her in teams with no physical weaknesses so she’ll always attack when enemies do their turn.
Gotta say my favorite is still Sampo. The guy’s just super fun and snarky. Acheron takes the 2 slot for her badassery while still being kind to good people.
These videos always help me figure out who to build
i hope you do enjoy the video :)! feel free to share your thoughts too on some of the characters, since these are mainly just my opinions haha
Boothill. Pulled him yesterday and now I am eternally binded to him.
From what I've experienced so far, a must have or the backbone units(limited) are:
- Acheron
- Black Swan
- Silver Wolf
- Ruan Mei
- Robin
- Huohuo
- Aventurine
- Firefly (soon)
I just thought that their kits have the most longevity and can be the core units of your team archetypes.
Maybe not black swan but the rest are good (including firefly)
@@Entity000wastakenno definitely black swan too, she's a great dot character an a great debuffer, basically a 5 star pela on top of being a dot character wi unique interactions
imo you can't really put someone like Firefly in a must pull list cause she's too dependant on hmc and ruan mei
@@luciel98 the damage is too high to not make it a must pull, it don’t matter
I agree but I'd replace swan with Kafka, she is far stronger and less prone to being replaced in the DOT team. Even if there is another character that does what Kafka does but with biger numbers or slightly better you'd just play Kafka and the new DOT unit, retriggering dots twice as much would be a massive improvement.
Those avatars are really cool and cute, and the intros are great, awesome tierlist btw
Thank you
uh idk if you'll read this but as a seele main the way we use seele is different from 1.0 we dont really depend on resurgence that frequently nowadays usually like the more damaging team is mono quantum but personally in terms of being consistent with the ults is what we do we use tingyun the damage is not the same but in terms of overall vs damage on screenshot the tingyun seele combo is just broken until we get another tingyun character or something else to help seele do her job like it was in 1.0 a little bit easier
The Tingyun + seele pair is definitely really good! I can see being consistent with the ults being very powerful for sure. Do you mix in more basic attacks now, or primarily skills + Ult spam? I definitely think seele has a bunch of potential, I mainly just thought I’d mention resurgence since it is a good part of her skill kit :)
@@Moonnverse you know that's a very good question that I was hoping you'd ask the awnser is yes we mix in Basic attacks to manipulate the action advance I personally think seele is still very powerful yet loads love to down play her without any solid proof or evidence because all the So called "Proof" on why she sucks had already been debunked
Yukong at E6 with good energy regen from either rope or Huohuo stops being clunky with speed tuning, then she’s just free perma ATK and crit rate/dmg.
The firefly outfit! 🎉 I really like the underrated section I had my fair share of play time with them and really are useful in their own ways.
I really wanted to give shine on those characters since they’re really nice :)
I would also like to point out that with Gallagher if you manage to sustain the team without needing to use skill points which obviously depends on the situation and can be difficult to do against enemies that debuff but he can technically be more skill point positive than luocha himself because Gallagher is mostly skill point positive and can advance his own action by 100% with every ultimate meaning he should be able to get 1 skill point more than a luocha with the same speed under ideal circumstances
that backround music is from digimon world 3 and Im so for it. I loved that game so much
I love that Digimon 3 video game track playing in the background bring backs so much memories.
How would you compare fu xuan to firefly I'm not sure which of the 2 to pull? I got lots of 5 stars both dps and supports.
Back with another banger video!!! Keep it up. Just in time since I recently came back to the game as well. Thanks in advance!!
I hope you enjoyed the video :D
ever since penacony came out ive pulled every new character + fu xuan and jingliu and that was when I just came back after a long break and these new characters have helped me sm to catch up the whole penacony cast are such good units and majority are so easy to build
damn, every character since 2.0?? How have your funds held up? Black Swan, DHIL, Sparkle, JY, Acheron, Luocha, Aventurine...????
they have been powercrept to hell unfortunately but i remembered QQ and Bailu performed stellarly on my MOC runs.
the current MOC i used Bailu to clutch a KO on one of my supports then destroyed the Opera Trio with Acheron. She still have the Heal on Hit buff plus Damage reduction on top of it which makes your units tankier and of course the classic revive passive which have saved my MOC runs most of the time.
I still dont get how I can make Seele work great.. in my experience so far she has been the hardest to play right and she always underperforms. Im having way easier time with my JY and Blade than with Seele, and arguably their relic qualities are roughly equal. She is always placed high in tier lists and I wonder if its just me being a garbo Seele player or what.. what am I missing here? What teams do yall use with her lol help me
It may be the investment of said relics. If your relic quality is low, then yeah Jing Yuan and Blade are gonna feel better to play than Seele is. If they're mid investment, I'd say they're about equal. If they're high investment, Seele should definitely perform better. It really depends.
It also depends on how you play Seele, her teammates, and the enemies you're matched up against. You generally wanna go for dmg per cycle instead of screenshot dmg like IL, Jingliu, Acheron, Ratio, or in some cases Argenti or Jing Yuan. Seele's main focus and strength is her turn manipulation and her innate speed boosts, allowing her to continously attack multiple times a cycle. Pair her with an action advance support like Bronya or Sparkle and/or an energy regenerator like Tingyun to get her 120 cost Ult up frequently and you'll have a very very nice Seele that acts pretty frequently. She may not do as much screenshot dmg as some of the other top tiers but that's not what she relies on. And that's not me saying her dmg is dogcrap. Her screenshot dmg can be very VERY high when given the right investment. And she can clear stuff pretty fast with that.
And how to play her, you do want to pair with action advancers and try to proc Resurgence as much as possible. During single boss battles with no mobs, you want to get your Ult up as fast as possible in hopes to burst down the boss quickly. Tingyun helps with this. And one thing I do like to do is time my Ultimate to use it right before her next turn starts. If you didn't know, Seele's Ult actually enters her into her Resurgence state so she gets all those self buffs without needing to kill an enemy. Timing the Ult right before the actual turn can make sure Seele gets the Resurgence buffs on her turn without needing to kill an enemy.
All in all, it really does depend on the level of relic investment, how you play her, and the teammates you use. Yes, Seele is very hard to play I'll admit. But when done correctly, she's on the level of some of the top tier DPS units because of her speed.
Now ofc, more experienced Seele mains will probably explain this better than I can. I'm a f2p Seele main who also plays DHIL so maybe take this with a grain of salt, but I hope this helps
Awesome vid ❤
Hook is really funny on Wind 4pc set.
Since her ult advances her forward by 25%, she effectively becomes a mini-DHIL with the additional 20% advance from wind set.
Pretty copium, but really funny.
oh my goodness LOL I may have to attempt this now that you said it
Id like to know your reasoning as to why you placed Jing Yuan in the great tier lower than characters like seele or boothill as personally that ranking is not correct if we're judging characters across the entirety of the game's content🤔
Id totally agree with seele its not 1.0-1.4 shes not that good, i actually have his team higher than hers but boothill is waaaay better i got jing yuan e0s1 ans e6s5 trust me he doesmt compare. Boothills single target is better than acheron on a three enemy wave. His single target damage. The guy is the best boss killer by a mile and he doesn teven have his best in slot relics.
I'd definitely move Jing Yuan a tier. He's the most versatile - in terms of types of contents he can clear - DPS on my account (admittedly I only have DHIL, Blade, Argenti, Ratio, Topaz, Himeko as 5* DPS).
He routinely clears MoC 12 in under 3 cycles (or up to 5 if unfavourable element), comfortably does 25-40k in PF, great in SU, fast farmer and decent on auto.
The same can be said about Blade to a slightly lesser extent: he doesn't beat others in solo damage but useful in MoC _and_ PF and can be solo carry _or_ a part of a dual DPS makes him valuable, imo.
i like using sampo with kafka AND black swan, having them both means i get even more arcana stacks
i agree with this entire tier list inlcuding not being sure which tier jing yuan and blade should go in but i disagree with acheron's placement bc dps characters are the primadona of the team i think they should be chosen based on how much you like them or their playstyle bc of that no dps really goes that high for me bc if i didn't like acheron's playstyle i could just wait for a new lightning dps or wait for jing yuan/kafka to come back ofc same could be said about the rest but i think building teams starting with your favorite dps is the easiest way to build and there's so many ways to play supports depending on the dps you use plus once you have 2 sustains any 2 sustains you're fine but they still have astonishing pull value if you don't have enough sustains so i'd keep that tier the same but bump acheron down to very strong
I think Blade and Qingque should be higher since Jade is right around the corner.
With Jingliu, Blade and Jade. Blade gets 2 stacks every turn plus another stack on Jingliu's turn so he can use his follow up attack very consistently. This then gives Jade lots of stacks for her to follow up attack consistently.
As long as Qingque is E4, her enhanced basic can give Jade 6 stacks which is higher than hitting "all enemies on the field" since there can only be 5 at a time. If the enemies are weak to quantum then these 2 will work well together.
How ur logic make sense they should be higher because the character that buffs them isn't even out and have u personally tested the dmg number no there not out yet wait until jade is released before saying blade needs to move up
I think what’s missing from the “value for your account” discussion is the direction that the game is moving in. Looking at FUA strats, super break strats, unit synergies and specializations are becoming increasingly more important. Units like Robin, Topaz, and Ruan Mei that specialize in a particular archetype and can turn on other units (Robin adding her extra attacks to Topaz’s while Topaz generates lots of energy for Robin) are going to be more valuable than generalized units, especially as end game content is becoming more difficult. Just making your DPS act twice via Bronya or Sparkle isn’t going to be optimal anymore, teams will need to be more than the sum of their parts.
I can definitely understand this too. I was actually considering making a “meta” analysis sort of video maybe, where I go over each archetype on the rise in star rail, and which units are becoming increasingly important as time as gone on/is going on.
@@Moonnverse That’s a fair point. I think the game is getting to a point where you can no longer say, for example, “Ruan Mei is the best character in the game because she can go in any team”, because she’s not the best support for FUA anymore, she doesn’t go into Acheron debuff teams, Robin is equal or better for DOT teams and eventually DOT will get their own specialized support, etc. Going into year two I think units need to be evaluated based off their highest potential in their designated role.
For example, I think Topaz is becoming one of the best units in the game because she’s so hyper specialized for FUA. She doesn’t go anywhere else, but she perfectly does everything that team wants.
good list, really like the reasoning behind them all. Honestly I see the potential of four stars but with the release of so many good 5 stars I have a hard time farming the mats for them.
Veritas Ratio my beloved!!💙
The one thing I would disagree with on this list is the rank where sustains that pain to prevent your dps from getting straight up one shot are placed in.
What I mean by that Is I hate running Gallagher with a dps that doesn’t have some random hp and def stats thrown on them.
I’m not saying they’re bad because of this, I think they just shouldn’t be placed that high for some of them.
The damage we receive has only gone up since the beginning of the game, so I’m wondering how we’re supposed to play pure healers if we keep going in the same direction?
Saying “oh well I’ll just reset and hope rng doesn’t screw me” isn’t a viable option to me
Robin's party turn advance is just THAT cracked. She's the best support for FUA teams and just amazing for everything else. Definitely one of the best units in the game
Also her songs slaps
Great video - really helpful for thinking about building characters that I have pulled but haven't built yet. My favourites are Acheron and Fu Xuan (pulled her and her light cone in v2.2)
My favorite character is definitely Black Swan and Yukong, yes its 2 I cant choose (I've tried) and ya cant make me.
Both are gorgeous, I don’t blame you :)
@@Moonnverse Yukong's quest made me fall for her and Black Swan has the plus that I"m a giant tarot fanboy (plus she's gorgeous too).
Without giving any story spoilers can sunday be a playable character? I am at the start of penacony and I like his design. Btw I have topaz Ratio and Aventurine is ruan mei a good pick for them?
He might be playable but I’m not too sure honestly. As for topaz ratio aventurine, Ruan Mei is an awesome option with them! Her buffs can benefit the damage of the entire team :). She’s very universal with what she can provide.
Rm is good fo them if you don wan robin as a alternative fo her, not as good bu still pretty decent, otherwise tho you should jus go robin
Edit: or if you can't get robin you could use rm till you get her, li if you don get her in time, bu rm is def best fo break teams so you don wanna hab to use her in other teams in cases where you can use break teams
Yes every leakers in existence confirmed he's playable, maybe at the end of 2.x or early 3.0
Hopefully they'll release a harmony character which increases energy regeneration like tingyun but 5* version, it's really helpful for characters like jy and argenti
Never try to cook again it will hurt ur brain too much bro said energy regeneration is good for acheron it doesn't even work on her lol
@@UltimatePollo3495 yea sry about acheron I forgot her kit doesn't work like that but other than her there's still others who could get benefitted from
imagine if the character's energy generation is teamwide.
@@usmanya5110 yess but since they're limited it would be good if it's in their skill itself
THE FIREFLY FIT IS SO CUTE
Thank you :)
Im on 50/50 really thinking about pulling for fu xuan, but Im not sure since Im a new player. Maybe save for ruan mei ?
Both would be super beneficial for you. As a new player you get a lot of stellar jades so I would say pull for both
Both are really nice! Which sustains do you have and supports do you have? I think either option would be very good for you, as Fu xuan can keep your team alive while Ruan Mei provides incredible buffs for your team!
@@Moonnverse well, I have Bailu, linx and gallagher, but all at E0. Also got a Robin as a buffer, so Idk if its reeeally needed, my fear is to spend all currency on them while not in the real need for it.
I’d go for Fu Xuan since you already have an awesome 5 star buffer but are lacking a great sustainer (Lynx and Gallagher don’t compare at all. & Bailu is good, but not nearly as good). - Fu is incredible & has been almost immortal for me. Hah I honestly rarely ever need to worry about or manage my team’s health when she’s there. So definitely think she’s worth getting now before her rerun banner goes away (also; who knows when Ruan Mei is getting a rerun).
I was going to skip her too during her first banner - mainly cause I didn’t like her bubblegum magical girl design 😅 but also cause I was having trouble deciding between her and another - but wound up doing a few pulls, _and I’m so glad I did!_ Cause even though I also have Bailu, Huo Huo & recently got Luocha during his last banner; she’s still my go-to sustainer 90% of the time
Anyways, good luck with your pulls no matter who you decide to get 👍
@@HollyClementine thanks for the answer. After I read it I pulled again and got fu xuan at 80 pulls total. Im still on 7k jades so I think Im still fine. I have archeron so I think for her team Gallagher might still be better for the debuffs, but for most of the content fu xuan will do better for sure.
Blade will always be my favorite character, but ngl is been hard to full star moc with him lately. If it wasnt for Acheron I aint sure if I would make it, gladly hes good for other types of content
Sampo is also really good as a single target break dps. If the new mode has wind weakness im gonna use him.
I’d swap Bailu and Natasha or just move Bailu down next to Natasha. I pulled Bailu early on but I hated using her, her bounce heal is really annoying and feels so bad when it bounces to the characters that don’t really need it and leaves character that are low alone. I really like using QQ, QQ has randomness mitigation in her kit but the only mitigation Bailu has is her revive and she only does it once. You just let them die so yeah you’d better revive them! So Bailu feels even more random than QQ and in a healer is really not where you want randomness. So I would always use Natasha over Bailu. Of course these days I don’t use either because I have Luocha now.
I really like Clara but I think they have some test when introducing things and if it’s good with Clara then they have to change it and add some rule that makes it so that Clara can’t really use it.
Currently debating whether I should watch the full video now or study for my finals and just leave it for after my exam tmr…
i think the video works as great background noise LOL, its just me yapping, but studying is important! good luck on your exam :D
@@Moonnverse thanks, it shouldn’t be too bad listening to it in the background since I’m doing maths lol so can just listen while I do activities
I gotta say, Bronya shouldn't be the most recommended for the 300-standard banner pull bonus anymore.
Back then? Sure. Bronya was the best. But it was because there were too few harmony characters.
With the situation right now, Bronya is barely used.
I think Himeko is the more suitable option now since she holds her spot in PF.
Oh man, I thought I could find the answer. I don't know, should I pull for Fu Xuan or wait for HuoHuo in her rerun banner? I only have Natasha and Lynx as healer and my Aventurine with his LC does very well xD
My plan is also to build a perfect DoT Team (Kafka, Ruan Mei, HuoHuo are missing. Currently running Guinaifen, Black Swan, Asta/Pela, Lynx/Pela), I have a perfectly units for FUA Team (but thinking to pull for Jade and switch her with Ratio) and I want to build a perfectly Super Break Team with my Aventurine (waiting for Ruan Mei rerun banner)
So that I can kinda run excellent four teams in Pure Fiction situationally.
I kinda want both, but I also need to save Stellar Jades for some other planned characters. It's kinda tricky.
Since you already have Aventurine I’d recommend pulling for HuoHuo over Fu Xuan. She’d be a great upgrade over Natasha and even Lynx. You also have a lot of time to save for Fu Xuan since she recently had a rerun and HuoHuo’s should he coming up
Which is more valuable? E1 huohuo or ruan mei's signature for a black swan kafka dot team?
I guess in general ruan mei's signature and e1 is just more broken
Felt Argenti isn't really underratted, just released at a bad time. He was in between Huohuo and Ruan Mei after all.
have you actually used and tested every single character you have ranked? This will make the tier list more eligible.
yes my account has every character and i have tested them all to a degree. Some more than others though, but this is merely my opinions on the characters.
Seeing that highest value tier makes me feel more regret for skipping sparkle. I don't even know why I skipped her. She's the only one I don't have on that tier, aside from Fu Xuan but I don't need her since I have Aventurine.
Honestly if you got Robin / Ruan Mei as your limited harmony character, you should be fine :). You don’t need every character in that tier, it comes down to which characters / teams you use the most
Using Persona 3 music before Reload lets goooo
I lost my 50/50 on Robin and burnt my budget on C6 Acheron so I couldn’t whale for her...
I love Harmony MC and Firefly, so I might pair him up with Firefly. Since I have Ruan Mei C0R1, I should be able to make a great team
Thank you for the video! I was able to get a good grasp of what characters I should focus on building.
Unfortunately, I think it would’ve been better without the “underrated” tier, as it doesn’t actually tell you HOW good they are. Are they good? Strong? Incredible? As someone else mentioned, you did provide comments on how strong some characters, but I believe the point of a tier list is to show you who are the strongest within a single glance.
But anyways, that’s just some friendly feedback! Goodluck!
Asta might be the most underrated character in my opinion. In a DoT team she can clear in 3/4 cycles, while Ruan Mei would save a maximum of 1 cycle in the best case scenario. She deserves more attention for those who want to play DoT teams and dont have Ruan Mei or want to use Ruan Mei in another team.
Why does everyone ignore robin TwT I get she's a kina f2p sorta robin alternative altho if you hab robin robin is better by far, an thas part of why asta is undervalued so to speak
@@Yumiaia-26 it's not that Robin is "bad", it's just that she's not the best for DoT teams, tho yea she is better than Asta by a slight margin.
@@p01nt_blank67 I never said she was bad, or tha anyone said tha, also no, depending on stuff she will be WAY more important an even tho asta can do fire bounce her buffs an stuff don compare, asta is a replacement if you don hab robin, an or rm an yea robins jus way more useful bu yea I agree asta has a place there, really tho we jus need to wait till a dedicated harmony dot character fo tha team or something bu yea the team is great an asta provides value an so does robin if asta can naturally apply burn stacks id say its personal preference between a way more powerful support or a decent bi more synergistic support bu idk if she can I don remba an if not no robins jus the preferred choice if you hab her, also she's better by way more than a slight margin in terms of support, it's jus can asta apply dots cause then it's about wether to use a dot applier (most sustain for dot besides huo huo already do fire dot) or use the buffs from robin to apply way way more, if asta does hab dot then she jus barely stretches back to be around robin in terms of kit fo dot
I'm so sad I lost when trying to pull for Robin and Topaz. I hope Robin reruns sometime in the near future. 😭
Boothill, Blade, Kafka and Black Swan are my faves.
My Fav characters r probably Topaz, Jingliu and Black Swan
awesome choices :D they're all very pretty characters
I really wanna pick Bronya from my 300 character selector but I have all of the limited Harmony characters so I think Himeko will be better 😬 I have the pick ready to go just holding off until after Firefly in case I lose the 50/50 which I totally won't right?
Well, better investment is which you like more, you'll be more likely to keep playing the more you mix well wi the characters an therefore the more fun you hab
Honestly bailu is a really good unit still and I'm glad she's in A tier at least!
I love ur tier list moon great video all love the firefly fit looking great
Thank you :D
Fun video!! Tbh, fo me....i think personally i think of things a bi different than most people ig, mainly, id consider characters like luocha bronya blade silver wolf black swan an bailu as a tier higher than currently, im not fully done yet wi the video bu im pretty far in an i jus did think id say tha as your alo more generous an therefore imo more accurate than most, an thas something i see universally is certain characters sadly get undervalued TwT great video im having fun watching it, currently im at the misha part, ill include other characters of the last few in a edit if i find more of these types of characters imo or jus remove this end part or put a note if i don
Okay, final change, ive finished it, no new characters tha id change the spot of, great job again on the video
Asta is even more underrated because of all her bounces on skill she actually can work well with harmony MC
Yeah her break potential is there too! She’s really cool :)
Oooooh fun, also yea, she's less strong than alo of the others bu she is strong....I typically don like her tbh tho cause her ult is a % not a guarantee an it feels useless...
So youre telling me im only missing all the incredible value units except Fu Xuan who i just got and Archeron xd
I have say nihility class characters
are favourite:
1. Kafka
2. Acheron
3. Black Swan
4. Pela
Blade/Luocha/Bronya/Sparkle
Unlimited Blade Works
Thank god as a new player I decided to summon on Fu xuan and not on Boothill's banner.
My fav is kafka js bc i love nihility and i love her play style also i rlly like hertaco because it clears pf so easilyyyy
Kafka is so good :D
Also Herta Himeko is peak in pure fiction~
imo kafka needs to be in incredible value as she is DOT herself, like without her nihility path is clunky to use and she will never be out of meta as long as dot is in play other than that , underrated tier is just confusing like they are either good or bad ( why does underrated tier even have a place in a meta tier list )
Kafka by herself is not incredible value, if you get kafka you need to get other Dot characters to compliment her, she is heavly dependant on other characters and doesn't offer good value just by herself.
@@Zephoz-214 hyper Kafka is still good, ofc not as good as normal dot comps but still decent enough to clear the moc in lightning focused moc and Kafka literally is the only one to use the nihility path to its fullest potential in all forms of simulated universe. If you say Kafka ain't in incredible value then acheron ain't in it too as she also needs 2 other nihility characters just to function unlike Kafka where she can hyper , duo or even run a three dot characters. If there is one dps characters which can be on that incredible value the first one to be on that is Kafka 💀.
the important thing is no character is a must-pull. except pela my GOAT
I think u r underestimating the cowboy.....he took down a stage 10 MOC boss in 2 hits.
Kafka is best in change for Huohuo, because is more important for Dot, or rather, irreplaceable.
Should i get Boothill or dan heng IL
I got boothill and he does crazy damage and that implant of physical weakness is goated.
So if you have a good amount of Aoe characters I'd say Boothill,but if not Dan Heng would be good,both work amazing and since Dan Heng ain't coming for a bit u can get boothill rn and save
I really can’t wait for firefly to finish off my super break team!
Nooooo firefly don’t finish them off
@@yubaa xueyi is my temp stand in but I think firefly will without a doubt be an upgrade.
QQ's RNG as a downside gets overblown by content creators. As often as you get unlucky you'll get lucky. It averages out.
I wouldn't say she's all that f2p friendly however. She really wants at least e4 and Sparkle is basically a requirement to use her comfortably in MoC. Also you probably want a limited sustain with her because she's made of porcelain.
That is fair! I typically get more lucky than unlucky when using her personally, but typically speaking I would definitely say she’s a pretty strong quantum character overall. I could understand the E4 want for sure since her Autarky is very powerful for more damage output. I can see the SP consumption being a notable downside to mention since it can be rough at times if you are low on skill points (Sparkle helps out a lot with this). Thank you for sharing your thoughts 😄!
I love the increasingly chaotic intros.
Everytime someone or something new happens in hsr I always check ur channel first 😂😂😂
Aw thank you 🥹 I hope you enjoy the videos 💕
Gallagher and Firefly
To this day I will defend my homegirl Ruan Mei being a very worth it unit. Universal damage boost, weakness break boost, extended weakness break, can enable dual comps very well. The 1 unit I never regretted pulling. After I grab firefly I’m going to be saving for Huohuo and Acheron reruns because Huohuo is great and Acheron I’m obsessed with
She’s such a good character :) I love using her!
She doesn need defending rn, alo of people devalue other characters especially robin cause they think she's far better when really she's equal
If everyone's top tier - nobody is. This is waaaaaaay too top-heavy. And the underrated tier is more of a "undecided", since, you know... underrated compared to who? Like, is Serval underrated compared to Jing Yuan? No, she isn't.
Much as I love your content overall, this was not helpful at all...
When I refer to “underrated” I am referring to characters that typically don’t really get much mention or shine. They are typically B Tier or lower on most tier lists I have seen, which is why I am referring to them as “underrated”.
I also didn’t split up supports/sustains/dps into each individual category otherwise it would be split more often. I only placed one DPS character out of a large amount in the highest tier.
I personally don’t think there’s anything wrong with acknowledging a lot of characters in the game have very high potential, and are good characters overall.
If the video wasn’t really your cup of tea, that’s okay, it isn’t meant for everyone as there is definitely no possibility for a tier list to please everyone, as it is primarily subjective content. Thank you for the feedback overall though.
If I may also ask for additional feedback, what would you potentially suggest changing for the video to be more helpful? I wasn’t too sure how to fully go about the list, so any suggestions would be nice. Thank you!
@@Moonnverse I understand not wanting to separate them by category, that's perfectly fine. I'm just saying that if someone new to the game comes looking for recommendations and looks at this lists, what they'll see is "meh, pull for anyone, doesn't matter". And yes, I understand that you talk through the characters in the process, but I'm sure a lot of people just skip to the end.
IMO, there should be more to it than "has potential". Like, sure, Luka has potential to do some damage. Is it really the same potential as Blade and Jing Yuan though? Will Jinglyu, who doesn't need any specific supports to do crazy damage provide the same value as Kafka who needs a very specific team for very specific conditions? Maybe. Maybe not. It's not my list, it's fine to have different opinions. I just think that a list that is this top-heavy is kinda misleading.
And ok, let's say your definition of underrated is "compared to other tier lists". It's a perfectly valid opinion, heck, I for once think Natasha is underrated, but then instead of just putting them into the same group, put them where you think they belong. Right now, having, say, Asta, in "underrated" tier doesn't tell me if she's underrated but great, underrated but very strong, underrated but incredible value? This category is completely pointless. If you're undecided, just make more tiers, don't put them all in this "idk what to do with them, but they are probably better than you think" category.
I'm sorry if I sound harsh, I don't mean to, I really appreciate your content, and it's hard to express emotions via text. And I'm definitely not here to argue for individual placements - tier lists are just opinions in the end of the day. I'm just saying that for how helpful and well thought-out your videos usually are... this one kinda isn't.
@@SimonCleric I can see the skipping to the end point, as then the missed out context could allow people to be unsure about why characters are where they are, I can’t really do much about skipping to the end though, since that’s missing out context.
For the underrated tier, I mainly wanted to speak on why those characters are considered “underrated”, Asta for example, I mentioned her buffs + how she can work as an alternative to Ruan Mei on the DoT team. In the future though (if I make another one of these) I could try to say where they’d normally be placed (likely the Great tier?) and explain why I do feel like they’re underrated in general though.
When it comes to pulling (other than the highest tier, since I do believe those sustains/supports/DPS have incredible pull value depending on your account) I would likely made a specific video for who to pull for specifically or at least my thoughts on that, and this video was mainly just one I made since I have been getting requests for a while now to make my own list and share my thoughts on each character.
In the future what I could try is making even more sub categories potentially to help be more specific on the characters, for example if there was a DoT category, then the damage over time-centric characters would go there + the reasonings as to why they are there. Maybe that would be better?
As for the last part, I understand it’s hard to express emotion through text, so don’t worry I’m sure you mean what you’re saying not to be rude, but give genuine feedback, which I do appreciate.
Well Done.
Sampo. He's my spirit animal.
I hope you don't take any offense to this, but I'd love to see a video where you prepare a script beforehand, even just a rough script. It's clear your have a lot of in-depth knowledge about the game that exceeds even other content creators, as shown by your numerous tournament wins with high slill plays. But it doesn't get shown as much through your discourse. So many times where the words "just, very, of course, definitely" etc are repeated in the same sentences alone. A lot of times where words are used to ultimately say nothing or only to repeat something. Nonetheless, I'll still continue to watch and enjoy the videos regardless, and you should create your videos in whatever method brings you the most enjoyment and efficiency at once.
Most of my videos do have a script (except for showcases and tier list stuff like this video). if I were to ask, what would be good ways to discuss the game in a way that would be more thorough to the viewer?
Here’s a quick example of a scripted video I did a little bit ago:
th-cam.com/video/0m3w7roUf3A/w-d-xo.html
Still doing great and cool vids. Hehe
idk but Boothill i fun, i need to read hi kit more cause i keep messing up rotations.
my favourite characters are gepard and argenti! i think theyre so silly and gepard is so cute
Ruan mei is not that big if you can't break the shield then rm is mid as f...
I top tier godly one is only acheron.she can break any shield in the game.she can dmg all enemies in the battle and she destroys them with brutal dmg
She don't need rm if you have her your account is fine just be sure to pull for jaoqiu
I'm f2p and within 120 pulls on standard ive gotten e2s1 gepard 🤡 he won't stop coming
Natasha was terrible for me ngl. She was my only sustain in the beginning, and I struggled so, so hard. I couldn't beat Aventurine with her, which is when I pulled Luocha. Natasha is, in my opinion, the worst sustain in the game. She just doesn't do enough outside of early game. I feel like she's just outclassed by literally every other sustain imo
idc what people say im calling her Sushlong from now on
🎶 welcome to my wuuuurrrrld 🎶. Ss+ ultimate song
21:08 Mr pokke *cough cough* deserved for slandering her
I have most of your underrated characters built lol that’s why the game is fun get out of your comfort zone make a 2nd account and go for fun great job btw this was fun
Still think HMC is tier 0 I mean she is great with BH but once 2.3 is here well then…
If ya know you know.
selee is bad in endgame or any content that doesnt have mobs.
MoC is 50/50 on whether or not it has mobs so seele still good there. Pf is makes her into an erudition character. Apocalyptic shadow also has mobs.
Digimon world 3 music..
sparkle best waifu, fu xuan strongest char,
Fu xuan isn at all bu okay XD, she's really strong yea, bu not the strongest
I agree with sparkle best waifu, but strongest character is definitely not FX. Aventurine easily outshines her in the sustain category alone and Ruan Mei's buffs are too insane for her not to be classified as the best character
fu xuan lets u play literally any character while buffing them at the same time
she's pretty much abundance, preservation and harmony all in 1
other preservations have no healing
fu xuan gives insane dmg reduction to the whole team + CC immunity
she is the strongest character ever made in a hoyo game and will never be power crept unless they make the same kit with bigger numbers
she gives dmg buffs, makes ur dps immortal, makes u immune to cc, heals and does fairly high damage
@@DJPonko she already gets outclassed sometimes an she jus...she isn tha overly useful, there's a reason the others are used an considered equal, they provide so much they equal her, tha hasn changed, she's strong yea, bu not a game changer more than any other healer, whereas Aventurine an huo huo could make it on this list cause they are wholly necessary fo there teams, whereas replace fu xuan in any team she's put in an it's doable, this is talking abou characters you build your team around, she's jus another sustain she isn broken an it's been shown people are starting to realize her not being as broken as they thought she was, she's still strong bu not op, any sustain besides luocha an some 4 stars don hab utility bu all sustains of 5 star limited rarity hab harmony type utility, I get you like her an she's strong bu she's not tha strong, also the character I'd say who actually was the strongest changing things up an being powerful is acheron as she completely changed team building around her an is super unique an strong
@@AshxnStars ruan Mei isn best character, an her buffs aren the best, fo super break teams yea bu thas a given an thas it, robins kit is alo stronger altho I would consider her either fo this, yea she's strong, bu her unique uses aren as used as her general use leaving her to be functionally jus li the other supports, being equal in power I mean
Is Boothill the only cool guy in the game as of the moment?😂
Maybe not the *only* cool guy, but definitely the coolest imo
Qingque = Gambling^(2)
Funnily enough I’m not a fan of Ruan Mei
I thought it was repodted but nope the intro was the samel ol
I may of forgotten to switch the intro LOL
Blade >>>> Seele