Build Or Buy Welding - Generator Electric Power Cords
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- Here are links to the electrical cords we have found on Amazon. We show two of them in this video. Obviously, you can get other brands, but sometimes on Amazon you never know what quality you will get.
40 Feet Nema L14-30
Product link: amzn.to/30spmu2
Nema Nema L5-30P to three 5-15R
Product link: amzn.to/2LMM2RK
20 Feet Nema L14-30
Product link: amzn.to/2XYGx91
Welder Extension Cord 25 feet
Product link: amzn.to/2xHcJir
Welder Extension Cord 40 feet
Product link: amzn.to/2XGazPk
Nice vid, Brian.
SJTW: S is for service; J for junior (Rated 300v); T is the coating (thermoplastic/vinyl); W is designation for weather and water resistance; SJTW insulation and jacket are PVC which is a cost-effective solution for an outdoor cord--not as durable or flexible (esp. when cold) as the black rubber insulation/neoprene jacket of your SOOW cord.
Your black cord (SOOW) is rated for S = 600V (No J);
OO = Oil-resistant both inside insulation and outside jacket;
W = designation for weather and water resistance
RUN, DON'T WALK from cords without specs. Retailing electric cords without specs on the jacket would be illegal in the US.
...flexible cords and cables must be marked with their type, size, and number of conductors at intervals not exceeding 24 inches..
If you can, load test your cord. Heat at either plug end indicates a bad connection/high resistance. Run rated amps for a while. If not hot, your probably good to go... if hot, cut the hot plug end and wire plug yourself with connections you can be confident in and hope the increased resistance isn't related to the conductors of the cord itself--as things are not always as advertised...
We make our own cords , those black heavy cords get run over all day and last ,they get hardwired into temp power boxes and dragged to the site, with a weatherproof 4 outlet box..,sometimes they are 200' from that we use either a 10g Ridgid or Yellow jacket 100' cords to the house. .. .. love the channel👍
I have built my own cables in the past and realized early on that Home Depot is expensive compared to electrical supply stores. For example, I recently bought and built some 12/3 15a cabling and was able to purchase leviton connectors for about $2 as opposed to around $7 at my local Home Depot. Building your own is the way to go in my opinion (not a fan of molded plastic either)..
The pre-made welder extension cables are ok but the 8/3 ones I have tried have outer coatings that are more plastic-like instead of pliable rubber. This isn't too bad in the middle of summer but they are terrible in cold weather. You just can't get them to uncoil in cold weather. :-) I also question the way the plugs are bonded to the wires internally. I've never torn one apart but I suspect they are simply crimped on like other pre-made cables. Even though it may cost a little more, you cannot beat a hand made cable using nice soft flexible water and oil resistant SJOOW cable and quality screw-fastened plugs and receptacle in a nice sturdy metal box. It gives you the flexibility to have any length you need and if you ever need to swap the connectors it's as easy as unscrewing one and attaching other.
Absolutely, EOSJOE! Plus, it sometimes allows direct terminal or wire nut connection to load or source, which is better than the spring tension of a plug/receptacle.
I opted not to buy a premade cable for the exact reasons you outlined. I ended up buying a nice pliable cable for my powertig extension and never regretted paying a bit more for it.
I think electrical supply stores sell the components for much less than Home Depot, but I think Online is the way to go for pre-made
So funny Brian, I've been looking at these cords all week, for my generator, home backup power!!
I built a lot of equipment cables, electrical cables, wired houses excetera not full-time... but I will say that those cables are certainly worth a look.
I can't believe how expensive are the plugs and the sockets in the US ...
Here in Italy a CEE IEC 309 plug 230V single phase 16A IP 44 costs about 3 euros
The socket costs about 5 euros
The cable that I use to make 230V extension cord or even the cord itself of a single phase welder is the 3G2,5mm² H07RN-F and it costs something like 1,50 euro pour meter and is rathed for 25A
Here we have not 120V but only 230V single phase and 415V three phase
Essentially for my hobby, I make the extension cord myself
For the job site I buy them because of the code and all the rules we have to stick with
Thanks for the discussion. I've thought it through many times and usually ended up building my own just for the "I know who built it, how it was built, & quality of components". Don't know if I'm right or wrong, but I feel better when I'm using the cord hard. I've always wanted to cut one of those bought cords open and see what kind of workmanship and material quality is hidden under the pretty face...😯⚡❓ Thanks again, you made good points.
I buy american plugs at swapmeets and garage sales cheap and have made most of my own. rarely buy from the box stores.
Thats a great idea!
I've looked at these Chinese cords.(wasn't impressed) I would still build my own.I feel its worth it for the extra cost.
Yes, every time you use it you'll appreciate the better quality of your SOOW cord -- long after the memory of spending the extra few bucks has faded.
First! I always built my own cables for almost all cases unless I was able to find a good deal on manufactured cables which happens maybe half the time.
I'm just like you, I usually build my own, but I've been looking to see what I can just purchase and be done with it!!
Change of nozzles are effortless
Check with Amazon I was able to build a 25 foot 30a converter cable to allow me to connect my RV 30a 110vac into my 50a 220vac welder outlet in my garage. For less than I could buy it and the adapter to convert it. The plugs I used were just $10 each through Amazon, I also bought the cable through there.
I was looking to make my own generator cord as I have a length of welding wire but I saw a You Tube video that James Condon put out that made me think twice about doing it. Plus like you I checked out the pricing on the twist lock ends so I will buy a pre-made cord.
I bought a 220 volt extension cord for my stick welder from Amazon. I think it's 25 foot it was around $65 at the time. I priced out both building and buying and that was the cheaper option. It's been a number of years and it's been a fantastic extension cord.
I bought the main pre made cable -50ft. Made the adapters though. Included watt/amp meter in the adapter so I can see how much power I am pulling in a waterproof box.
Stack up on some heavy duty extension cords.Get them asap.Get the ones with a lot of watts that says heavy duty.If you get them now you don't have to worry about getting them incase of an power outage.Try to get the 100ft heavy duty extension cords
I went to Home Depot as I wanted 50 feet of 4/c#10 cord, no ends, but it was $2.82 per ft. Went on Amazon and found by Gear a 50ft 4/c #10 green cable with 30 amp generator male and female ends for around $100. I plan to cut the female end off and replace with a 30 amp 4 wire male end. Big savings and the cable was tagged as UL.
Let's clear up a few things......MADE IN USA means...made in China - assembled here,(maybe). Those extension cords are doable at 30amp/10 gauge. Everything changes at 50 amp you save big dollars when you make your own.
When it comes to electrical usually everybody goes by what the wires rated for by the amperage per foot but it's better to use a heavy gauge wire that way if the ends fail the wire itself won't catch on fire.
u have to go to a electrical supply store and u will find better deals
then u but in bulk and make cords as long as u want
No. You should not use the metal box. The wires do come lose and when they do and you happen to grab it to plug it in or move it. ZAAAAP!
Instant fro bro. 👌
Watched it happen a few times. Funny as heck for the observer but the other guy isn’t amused.
I think the bigger risk is the knockouts which may become dislodged.
I just built my own a few days ago for my welder its a dual voltage welder I bought the ends at place here in L.A. called Lee's Tools the 2 50amp ends were under$30 dollars and I got about 60ft of 10ga cable and put them together also got an extra 20ft of the same 10ga that will be made to plug into my Lincoln welder generator that's for working close to the welder the long one is to reach into place where I can't work directly off the Lincoln with welding leads
Yours is the direction I'm going in right now. Like you, I have a dual voltage welder *and* I have a 5000W gas-powered generator. I want the flexibility to run the welder off the generator (I chose NEMA L14-20 male plug for the welder because that's what the generator has for its 240V output), and grid electrical current whenever I can get my electrician here to do the wiring. When I told him I'd want a NEMA L14-20 female output (properly circuit breakered), his eyebrows raised just a little bit, but that's what my welder (will have) has for its male plug. The issue I'm having right now is cable ... I'm looking for decently priced SOOW 10/4 cable.
To me the yellow cable with the 3 ways seem not to stay plugged in as well as the heavy duty weld style when it’s on the shop floor sometimes unintentionally being pulled on, comes unplugged. I found some of the heavy duty straight blade receptacles in both Home Depot and Lowe’s for $13 to $23, or the female. Several years ago when I made my first 220v drop cord they had the “ male” straight bladed plug but, over the past couple of weeks those bins have been empty. The cable itself is usually found in flee markets, yard sales or attic stores. Can’t afford the cable cost increase at the big box store.
I build all my extensions with soutwire sjoow and leviton wetguard ends it has always cost way more than premade but i have yet to wreck a cord and the wetguard ends make the plugs watertight. Since i cant buy a wetguard plug in 50amp for welders i purchased premade welding cords
Walmart has camper ready cords for both 30 amp and 50 amp sizes as well as the best prices I have been able to find.
in 2021 " MADE IN USA " just means that and it does not say anything about quality or even quality control. Expense the time and study the item you buy. Thank you for this video. I was also wondering about making my own extension cable.
always built my own
Can you please check out my 50ft ext cord for my 240v welder let me know if you think it's safe anyway I can get you to check it ? th-cam.com/video/39pDXRI2q8M/w-d-xo.html
My theory, build it for everyday or heavy use. Buy it if it's not going to be for everyday use.
I bought a 40ft 3w/8g drop cord for welder around $80 from off Amazon.
Is there a review/performance comparison of the new Milwaukee rear handle circ saw in the works? That'll be a real banger of a video for whoever ends up doing it. I fully expect the DeWalt to be better simply due to battery output.
If your time is worth $50-75/ hr it doesn’t make sense to build one, just buy it and keep making more money!
Yes great thought process and valid point. As you get older and your time isn't as precious a commodity you'll sometimes find that the inner reward you get from being able to build something yourself and knowing it's made correctly and not supporting the Chinese or Amazon. Yes it costs a little more up front but as you get richer both financially and with experience you may change your view. Both ways work for different people and I respect both. Thanks
Works good in small space using in camper toy hauler room has heat & air would buy again
Good video I try to make my own chords I got a generator That's rated for 30 amp which 10 gauge wire is all you need but I switched it to 8 gauge wire so you're not pushing that wire to its limits
How did you make it?
@@loveydovey4u bought the plug that went into the generator and bought me a 50 amp dryer plug and used 8 gauge wire
Sorry I meant what length did you make it?
@@loveydovey4u it's probably 8 to 10 ft long the reason I made it short is because my generator goes behind my house in the plug is right there and I figured the shorter the cord the better it would be or less voltage drop and where I plug it in outside my house my breaker box is right behind it so there's very little wire from the box to the plug
I appreciate the video man!
Thanks for the info been looking for welder exstention cord just got lazy and didnt want to make one
extension Gauge and amps for what you need to power them with
Very good !
Great review appreciate .
I build my own mostly to get the length needed.
4:00 black cords, in the grass. I work p/time for a realtor, and do grass/snow in winter. One house had a black pwr cord, and i the lawnmower found it. WHACK. ...fix mower blade, and dig out wire. WON'T happen again. thankyou, SIR
I have always built my own Cables
Costs for wire have doubled since this video was made!
DLO cable the best.
I've just built me a 60 ft cable, so I can use my generator with my mig box; I do have an adapter cable, for my camper, from my generator, I dont think I paid very much for it, but, I could'nt find the adapter for my mig bix; so..... I made my self one, tested it, and al is good; I had the cable, so.. all I had to buy, was the ends,
Great video
Home depot sucks but what are you going to do
I know the SO cord that you built has copper wiring but what about the two yellow cords. They seem so cheap. Are they using aluminum wiring?
You can water tight the metal box. You could fill the inside with silicon or even the expanding foam.
0:53 why not put a smaller water tight plug like on the other?
I find it harder to quickly find what I want when I need it. You are right, they are available, just not where I am looking.
The builders were unable to find a male plug to put on the shed! DO you have any resources for finding one?
Home Depot, Ace hardware, or amzn.to/2wrOibV or amzn.to/33KCfCw
@@WorkshopAddict Thank you for looking this up ~ still a problem ~ the flanges are straight and mine are slanted :-(
@@womenswellness1577 what volt and amps are you running?
@@WorkshopAddict thanks for sticking with me on this ~ the electrician made a 6" male for 30 amp/male for 110 amp plug type of cord ~ they tested it for safety and all is well ~ just waiting now for my 30 amp 24' walmart cord! thank you again!
@@womenswellness1577 Glad it worked out for you and is safe!
Very helpful. There is so much cheap stuff out there (race to the bottom) hard to distinguish between good quality based on price alone. S
Will the China man cord work for a Hobart 190 mig welder?
I have heard having two male ends to a cord is suicide ~ BUT I just had my shed delivered and they could not find a male receptor electrical box (only female receptor) and my 30 amp RV electrical post is female as well! SO, meaning I would need a male/male cord to plug into the shed and the other end into the post! SO, if someone were to make a 6" male/male cord, knowing which end needs to go into the shed would it be safe? Thank you
Change the plug on the building that is not electrified to a male.
Male to male cords are called suicide cords for a reason and are EXTREMELY ILLEGAL
It's hard to beat fresh S-cord from the big orange toolshed!
Amazon is a crap-shoot, with odds in favor of plastic cords that can't take any UV...
that "BougeRV 40 Amp" you found looks decent, with that diagram showing the cord layers, at the right kind of price ($2/foot)
now, home depot is great for cable, but they rip ya for other things, like the NEMA plugs/sockets
electrical cords
Want them to last build your own pay more for it but last longer.
Is there a cord that is 6-30 with a adapter of 20amp
My generator come from China I don't see a problem with the card coming from China. Dammit my trucks from China Hahaha love the technology and innovation
What if I parallel connect two 16 awg extension, will that result in a 8 awg or even a 10 or 12 awg?
It isn't recommended to parallel conductors for the purpose of increasing ampacity. This practice is used for other purposes like voltage drop. Reason being is if one of the cables gets detached or severed, can the remaining cable support the full amperage it's pulling?
ok good question. In figuring the amperage of any pwr cord == say 16 guage. This is 1.31 mm cross-sectional diameter can handle 5-7 amps MAX. Doubling up, with 2 16 gauge wires = a 12 gauge wire. Can handle 15-25 amps. Decrease the gauge size, FOUR times, for any wire gauge when running two in parallel. NOT VERY PRACTICAL, but in certain home garage uses, may come in handy. STAY/PLAY safe ....
if i had the materials laying around - i would build the cable. the benefit of building it is - getting exactly what you want.
if i had to buy all the materials and then spend my time building it - i would probably just buy it because you also have to add in your time as well as the cost of materials which obviously cost more than buying the fabricated cord which includes the underwriters cert. of liability.
Built
Help me how can i take it indian
6/3 cord all day.....don't cheap out
online products
Cord with box is against NEC code!!
Buy😅
I love your videos, but this one feels a bit disingenuous. Since you were able to find inexpensive cables on Amazon, why would you then look for the overpriced DIY parts at the home depot? Doesn't make any sense.