Have We Finally Outgrown Twilight?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- A history of my turbulent relationship with Twilight and everything I don’t like about it
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Twilight actually isn't that bad, but the biggest problem is that it focuses on Jacob, Bella and Edward, who are all rather bland, as opposed to more interesting characters like Alice, Rosalie, Carlisle, Leah and even Charlie.
Nah it's pretty terrible. But the other characters are more interesting for sure
Yeah… imprinting concept… like ALL of it, not even JUST Jacob and Renessme (which is certainly THEE worst, lmao), but the way it took agency away from EVERYONE involved, least of all the folks imprinted on…
BIG yikes across the board. Then throw in Edward’s casual stalking.
You're everywhereeeee
Exactly! Like I'd read entire books on Rosaline, Emmett and Alice. I also love Carlisle. Wish there was more light on his story. All the cullens were interesting but Meyer decided focus on the blandest and dumbest characters.
“This is the skin of a killer Bella” that line just cracks me up😂😂
TITSOAK is the best line
I honestly felt more sympathetic towards Rosalie when she was recounting her tragic past in Eclipse, than I did for Bella in the majority of the franchise.
Yeah me too I wish Stephenie writes a book centered around rosalie
That sequence was really well done
Same! Rosalie was the most fascinating character to me
To be fair there’s a lot of stuff like Bella being so pale, and Edward’s reaction when she walks into that Biology class that are explained in the books and make a lot more sense than in the movies.
I teach high school. The mumbling thing is pretty accurate to how teenagers talk. 😅😂
A lot of the things in the series make so much more sense when you realize that Stephanie Meyer is a mormon😂
Yes! When I discovered this, it was a lightbulb moment
8:50 I keep thinking of that line from Tangled, "stop with the mumbling Rapunzel, you know how I hate the mumbling!!"
That’s the only thing Mother Gothel got right 😂
I remember thinking “This is ✨cinema✨” lmfao!!! 😭
The first movie was so good though? They did docu-style handheld shots every time the creeps were around to instill anxiety. That’s thriller language 🤌🤌
Before I even watch this, I can’t stand Jacob😭 The whole series he’s literally just gaslighting Bella and then in the end he married her child?? Like I get he imprinted but make it make sense😂
Yeah he’s so annoying as well hahah
He was INSUFFERABLE in Eclipse 😞
If that massive project you were talking about is not The Vampire Diaries and Matt Donovan trying to drown himself I will be so sad
I thought it was Charlie from Lost 😅
As someone who was a die hard fan as a preteeen during twilight mania, I never once thought it was OK for a real person to stalk you or act like the characters, it’s high fantasy fiction.
YOU never did, doesn't mean everyone understands that difference between reality and fantasy. Shows and midia really influences how people view the world, specially when they're young and impressionable. Some people will be able to differentiate and will be less impressionable (usually when they have good parents that talk about stuff and don't let midia be the only thing teaching their kids about the world), but some people won't be able to and will be more impressionable and guide themselves through it.
I’m a 19 year old black male who just reread the books and rewatched the movies. No I haven’t grown out of it and I probably never will.
8:15 to 9:00 THIS IS GOLDEN! CRYINGGGG ''babygirl actually struggling with some kind of deficiency''
HAHAHAH
I remember when it came out. And I've been saying you have to watch it like a comedy for years lol! Also, the reason the lighting is the way it is because that is EXACTLY how gray and overcast that part of the world is. (I'm from that area, I would know)
Personally, I don’t have much beef with Twilight. At one point I think I had pretty strong feelings about it romanticizing toxicity and possibly abuse, but as a writer myself I eventually realized that a wholesome, healthy, realistic relationship would not be much fun to write about or read about. I think the biggest problem we have in terms of shows, books, and movies portraying these harmful and potentially toxic things is when it's targeted at a vulnerable audience and there's not much in terms of alternatives to show what relationships could look like in real life. I think we need to find ways to demonstrate for teens what relationships should look like in real life so that they can consume this media without it becoming a factor that establishes how they view romantic relationships in real life for years to come. I'm also not going to fuss over the age gap in a vampire romance, because that's what you go into a vampire romance expecting but also because a vampire is not something you can be in real life. It's dangerous that some teens started hoping for a teacher to date them during PLL because a teacher is something someone in their life could actually be and the statistics on teacher/student SA as absolutely staggering. That was irresponsible. But I think even the most under-privileged of teenagers know vampires don’t exist.
I agree wholeheartedly with so much of what you said :-) but I have to defend the actors here just a little bit. Not because they’re acting was good, it was awful! But that’s not entirely their fault. We know from other projects that these actors can do well, we have to remember that there is a Director telling them what to do and how to act in order to portray these roles. So let’s laugh at these scenes and how ridiculous these actors are acting, but remember that we should also be laughing at the Director, and what they allowed to not only get caught on film, but make it past the editing process🤣
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Can't wait for your video on The Vampire Diaries series! Can never forget Elena deciding to drown to save the utterly useless Matt Donovan.
She was written by a Mormon, so there's that
just watched twilight last night.
I couldn't be more hyped right now
The purity culture and relationship traditionalism in the franchise is just Stephanie Mayer's mormonism.
Please, please, please do a whole video on Leah Clearwater. She is the most misunderstood, strongest female character in the saga.
at this point i probably only like twilight because it's nostalgic. the older i got the more issues i found with the movies, now i only really like it for nostalgia and because its unintentionally hilarious.
as a teenager in the US when the first movie came out, the reception and media coverage really impacted how i felt about the series. I had read the books before the movie came out and knew it was a YA novel, so when was seeing on the news THOUSANDS of grown women going absolutely feral for the two male leads...i was no longer interested lol . I was also able to see the weird, questionable, problematic stuff while it was happening since i was not attached to it.
Twilight is my Roman Empire and I'm not ashamed.
Twilight was the first thing I watched after my dad was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer, it gives me comfort
I have the misfortune of having the same surname as Bella and people always used to ask me 'Where's Edward?' when Twilight was popular 😑
Despite reading the books and watching the movies when they came out, I always thought Twilight was average and never was a big fan.
I don’t have time to watch this right now, but I did want to share my opinion on Twilight real quick.
I love Twilight. The books, specifically. I like the story, the characters, the world building, even the love. Despite this love, there are problems with it. On a craft level, there are a number of changes that could have been made to make it better. There’s also the whole Native American thing. (I don’t think the common complaint of an age gap in vampire romances is super fair. Their bodies are stuck in time and so is their brain chemistry.)
What I’m saying is, it’s ok to like things that are kinda bad.
Absolutely ok to like it. As long as you acknowledge the issues with the material it's all good. 😂
I liked them enough to finish the books but I would never read them again or recommend them to anyone haha 😂😅
I hope they change a bit of the problematic parts for the reboot, I remember when I read the Renesme story in the last book I was so disgusted even back then.
This movie had preteen me by the throat frrr
I remember thinking Edward was amazing 😂🤦♀️
my response to the title: NEVER! 😩
in the book theres a lot of comedic moments yes twilight is trying to be funny on purpose( also wanted to add that edward states many times in the series if Bella didnt want to be with him and didnt want him in her life, he would leave because he just wants her to be happy, he'd be happy knowing she was living a good life without him, example: rewatch the tent scene from Eclipse)
I think they work better as movies then books. i cant stand all the internal dialog she uses to tell this story. i wish she wasnt pushed to make more books and add jacob and everything that comes with his character. I think if she was allowed to do twilight as is. then write breaking dawn her first version. no Jacob love triangle. no Jacob and renesme however you spell her name. none of that. im sure the vamp baby was gonna be a thing and maybe this book wouldve been more from theyre daughters point of view getting used to the supernatural world as a unique being. that book sounds interesting to me but, we have what we have and i hope. we update cannon in the show. i hope we add more mythical underworld elements and maybe a new cliff hanger to bring in a phase 2?
So glad to be one of the earliest people here to experience this piece hehehe🤭
twilight is beyonddddd ridiculous, i only watched it after the whole craze, in my mid twenties for the first time so i could really never relate to it or watch it seriously
I always loved Anna Kendrick's Jessica in this movie. She felt like the character that represented the audience. Also I thought this girls a star.
totally agree with this take on twilight I never watch a video of yours where I don’t share the same exact thoughts and feelings about the shows and movies that you cover love that , keep up the good work 🥳
I've barely started this video, but on Twilight as a comedy: the first movie came out when I was 21, and my friends and I were laughing in the theater watching it. It was so bad, lol. And we had enjoyed the books unironically!
i mean, it was always bad, not just now
My problem is that I'm subscribed to a channel called "Cinema Therapy" which i highly recommend you watch, or everyone. They did Videos on all 4 movies. And i remember watching it with a college from my Training, she's a few years younger than me. And i GENUINELY argued with her bc she was honesty like "bute he hot, it's love" and im like he literally tells her I'm a huge red flag, I've killed ppl, as if you could escape me, you're the Lamb I'm the Lion etc." And im like "Yuck, that's obsessive. And she's like "okay, i don't care." Yeah maybe they're good trash movies to watch but like i said, this actually does something to ppl. Bc that's why ppl think, "I can fix him." NO YOU CAN'T. I just can't. Maybe I'm taking it too seriously. But they(the movies just annoy me now that I'm older. But obviously some ppl don't growbout of this. So to answer your question: Yes i grew out of it, i think we all should see that this is actually unhealthy, obviously you do you. Watch it as a trash movie whatever, its just ew for me. I just think making this into a reboot and teaching this to young girls again is bad.
Did you read the books? When you were talking about the bad parts of the love triangle it sounds like you only saw the movies. In the books she was only ever into Edward, Jacob was a rebound if anything and she was only ok with that as she thought she would never see Edward again
The summer before the first movie came out my mom and I went on a cross country road trip to visit a ton of the locations in the books. I adored the series. I made shirts with my friends and went to the midnight showing of Twilight. When it was over I was overcome with disappointment. I legit felt like I had watched a parody of my favorite book. I never felt the same about the books again, this movie single handedly killed it for me lol.
I never thought Twilight was good but I found it entertaining and I had been a fan of the books (I’m old enough that the movies hadn’t come out yet when I first read the book). It’s so fun to rewatch. Breaking Dawn Part 2 is just full on madness
Did you delete your Little Women video, Serena? I was about to rewatch it and then I saw it was nowhere to be found 😅
I read the book as an adult, but I can imagine the questionable relationship of the main characters could have some negative effects on a kids view of relationships. The main thing that bothered me was the racism. Maybe it was because I had already read an article about the author’s world building and how she didn’t want a diverse cast because “vampires would be pale and white.” It apparently was a compromise to have the one black cast member be a main villain. The language of the native tribe left me with an icky feeling, for lack of a better word. On a positive note, though, I think the first movie did really well considering their low budget.
there was absolutely no need for diverse casting, not everything should be about "races", there were native americans, diverse students, nothing wrong with that.
More than only white people audition for movies and such. Casting directors have to go out of their way to turn down people of colour auditioning. That’s wrong in my opinion. I’m not referring to the main characters where the author talks about how pale and white they are. From what it sounded like, they were auditioning and the author didn’t even want background/supporting characters (who didn’t have race mentioned already in the book) to acted by people of colour. She even apparently justified that by claiming black people would “turn pale” after becoming a vampire. It just sounded all around bizarre. The author has said a lot of questionable things about race in her books and just in general.
I hated the movies and grew up watching them before reading the books, so once I read the books I was like “oh, this isn’t so bad” this only parts I really disliked in the books was the half of Breaking Dawn being from Jacob’s POV and I did not like him imprinting on Renesme … so weird. And as I got to know the other characters and rewatched them now in my twenties I was like this is hilarious and unsettling-Jasper deserved better, Carlisle is the man we all wanted and Edward is a stalker lol
Im laughing so hard.
I’m so happy right now!
Have you watched Twilight by contrapoints? It's a masterpiece I swear
Read and review the mortal instruments
it was not good, but the first episode was watchable, full of problematic ideas, but mainly a teen-fantasy, not really for me.. but. but in 2008, there was "the dark knight" and the original "let the right one in". they were even less entertaining, at least as if not more problematic and much more well-received.
You are so right with the acting!!! Yes Kristen and Robert are like icons but the acting?? I am not sure they are that great even now but maybe better. I do Like Angela from the humans the actress is very good and i think she won an award or nomination for the role. Very relatable character and sweet. Esme and Carlisle are also great. Idk i love the vibes immensely though even from the books and the movies. Even if they aren’t great the vibes are soo cool and i always enjoy it. But yea yikess
Much much prefer TVD and The Originals to Twilight! Hope you do a video on them, too! Even if you roast them a bit. 😅
The first two-three seasons of the vampire diaries was co-written by Kevin Williamson who created the scream movies and tv shows.
@Justafox305 I love the first three seasons. It was probably the best part of the show, I like seasons 4 and 5! Season 6 and 7 are OK, and season 8, you can forget for me, really! 😅 I prefer The Originals tbh!
this whole video feels like insecure laugh after the mean comment
Twilight is Fun Bad to me and always has been lol I'd argue that the horrible acting from everyone is on point for how the books are. If I remember right anyways a lot of 'breathlessly' saying from Bella in the books. Let's see how off the rails you go hitting the imprinting plot line in a part 2 or 3!
I think we have outgrown the "high school vampire" trope. The teen girl bait movies are great fun whether they were based on a YA novel or not (the Convenant was another movie teen girls loved to watch!) I was excited about the remake because I wanted to actually see some consistency in production and tone of the remake. Catherine Hardwicke is a terrible director unfortunately and she really leaned into the teenager/MTV aspect of the early 2000's/2010's. Everything is so terribly written, not just the movies but the books as well; I am quite glad Stephanie Meyer hasn't written anything for quite some time. I thought that the twilight remake was going to actually be an animation now but I was hoping that instead of having the character in high school, age the characters up to college! They can stay in school for years earning a few credits at a time and have 6 years max to age themselves up and make themselves look older. The other members of the family have such interesting backstories that could be hinted at or fleshed out through what they're learning or doing in college! Charlie could still be a Sheriff and Bella could go home to Forks on the weekend while the Cullens live in Seattle. Let's give the secondary characters some agency and life outside of just the main love triangle. I would hope that the writers would lean a little more into those more adult story lines or address those toxic story points and fix them for 2024; the lack of BIPOC characters, Imprinting etc.
For me Twilight was problematic because it both was a girly thing for girls and derided for that while also promoting the "I'm not like other girls" trope.
Can I direct you to Contrapoints’ 3 hour Twilight commentary masterpiece?
Is it TVD because Matt jumps into a pool to progress the plot!
Holy shit this was mean. I don't like the book or its multimedia empire but damn.
No, no we have not
Maybe you have, but I certainly haven’t.
The books are better.
I love twilight I miss it and I want to move to the town I disagree with you. I’ve seen worse acting after is so much worse God I just wish I never watched it, but I can’t. I hate that movie so much how much I hate it will never watch again. They ruined a perfect book but I absolutely love twilight. Ignore all bad stuff look. For what it is i love it for what it is a film of love and teen movies it’s amazing to me I want them to bring it back
I remember my Japanese roommate in Uni had a copy in her own language and it was then that I realized how popular the whole series was! 😮
And they like worship white skin over there so I guarantee the movies were also a hit too!