Olympus OM-5 vs OM-1: Which do I keep, which one goes?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 พ.ค. 2024
- Cameras:
OM Systems OM-1
OM Systems OM-5
Nikon D780
Lenses:
Olympus 12-40 f/2.8
Olympus 14-150 II
Olympus 30mm Macro
Olympus 20mm f/1.4
Olympus 45mm f/1.8
Olympus 75mm f/1.8
TTartisan 23mm f/1.4 (m4/3 mount)
Nikon 28mm f/2.8 D
Nikon 50mm f/1.8 D
You have a full-frame, “full-size” camera that can do about everything the OM-1 can do, plus better low light and more room for cropping. The OM-1 is about the same (large) size. The OM-5 is the only option that yields a smaller form factor. Easy choice: the -5 for the size.
Always the one that makes you want to take it with you and take pictures - irrespective of specs, they are both more than good enough.
I am now retired and chose the OM-5 as a great travel camera especially matched to the 14-150mm lens. Its light and compact yet still gives great photos. The more I use it the more i am liking it.
The camera with the stacked sensor is the one I would pick - OM-1. Electronic shutter that gives you quiet operation with fast sensor readout, no risk of shutter shock, and less wear on the mechanical shutter for the few times you need it.
I haven't been following your videos lately and I was surprised (and happy) that you are back on the OM/Olympus train!
Thanks. It’s always temporary lol
@@ericrjennings lol. On another note, would love to hear your thoughts on the upcoming "Leica" D-Lux 8...
@@glennsakI have it on my alert list
In the context of having a FF option, the OM5 is more in line with the smaller form factor of 4/3, trading features and build for a slightly larger body.
The technical trade-offs are easy, but it's the form factor and which will get used more. Honestly, the bodies just different that maybe keeping both for now is the easier decision.
Or sell the OM5 and pick up a Pen F.
OM5 - the perfect size and weight.
I'm going to be buried with my EM5iii & PanaLeica 15mm. My bigger, heavier Q2 just sits on a shelf gathering dust. Properly exposed RAW 20MP images rival those of the 47MP Leica and are superior in low light! Who would have thought for a M43 sensor?
Excellent video 😊!
For me the OM5, combined with a small lens like the 12-45, is a great compliment to my Nikon Z full frame setup. To get 24-90 equiv, with all the computational bells and whistles in a weather-sealed kit is no easy feat. The a7c/ii is great, but they don’t have any lenses with that kind of range and size. The f8 equiv for me is fine while the light stays good. And if it’s not good, the 45 1.8 is ridiculously compact and gets the job done. I do a lot of outdoor adventure-y things, and that is the setup that almost always accompanies me. I leave the Z for the most light-challenged settings or for when I absolutely need to nail a portrait, but for me portability usually wins out. I’m almost always happy with the results.
Recently made a look back through my photos from the last 10 years. Of my top 50 photos, 40’were shot in the year and a half that I had the E-M 5 Mk iii. 5 weee with E-M 1 Mk iii, 3 with Fuji X-T 4 and 2 with LUMIX S 5. Thinking about why that is the case, the bottom line is that, while all were perfectly capable of great images, the E-M 5 iii was always with me. Many of the images were taken on long hikes in the mountains. Thinking of going to OM 5
Om1 all the way. I have had the em5iii and I have larger hands and would get the grip you had. So if I need a grip for om5 then I would just keep the om1 for all the reasons you said it was great and especially the grip
Love your content Eric, I am on the similar verge right now as I am also into M43 and have G85 and Oly E-PL9
Seems that I enjoy more Olympus ergonomics and overall feel in the hand, so now thinking to buy OM-1
Combining OM-1 with Sigma M43 trinity lenses that I bought, and Olympus 25mm 1.8 which is always on E-PL9 as my EDC set. I just need more content like these to convince me to stop looking for FF because I don't need it actually. 😇
It's not the body size that matters, it's the lens. Buy into a lens system first then find a (good) body that can use it. I have both OM1 (mkII) and OM5 and use both. I ended up selling all my FF kit because lugging around FF lenses was getting too much. Sure, you can cherry pick small FF lenses and pick the biggest M43 lenses to compare it to, but on the whole M43 lenses are smaller and lighter and that is why I moved to that system. I also print up to A2 from these bodies so the MP count is a non issue.
If I could only keep ONE, it would be the OM5 because it's smaller and lighter and can do 95% of the OM1. The only thing it's missing (for me) is the extra AI focusing, live GND and the extra 3 stops of live ND. If you don't use those features and don't use bigger lenses (e.g. 40-150 f2.8) then there is probably nothing keeping you in the OM1.
I know both menu systems pretty well and have no problem using either.
The few times I’ve switched back to m43 I’ve always gone towards the e-m5 models over the e-m1 purely for the ability to change the over all size of the camera with the additional grip and the extra battery grip section. To me that takes priority over some of the higher end features because sometimes I’ll just leave cameras at home due to having to carry around something bigger.
That’s my reservation too
You have an OM1 from the OM5, i.e. the OM1!The camera is better in everything.
I have the OM-5 and the OM-1 MkII. I had to trade in my OM-1 to afford the OM-1 MkII. For the concert I would take the OM-1 MkII. The Human Subject AI AF is vastly improved. The low light AF is very good in the OM-1 MkII.
Anyhow, I do like owning both. The OM-5 is a really fun camera for family outings where compact size is important. Still it takes a little extra effort and the OM-1 MkII makes it very easy. I am keeping both.
I think both have a place. I’ve got the OM-1 and an EM-5 mk II. I’m waiting for the next version of the OM-5 to come out. I would really like an upgraded EVF, menus and USC-C.
Whichever one you feel best with that gives you the most satisfaction.
The OM1 is a much more versatile camera. Plus it's a professional body and will hold up really well over time. That being said, if you are looking for a smaller/lighter solution, then OM-5 isn't a bad option. Honestly, at those two price points, it's not a bad idea to hang on to both. That way you can take the right one that suits the situation. I use my A7Cii nearly every day, but I still have A7RV and A7Siii for when I need those tools (or want to mix it up a bit)
I’d keep the OM5 knowing you already have the bigger FF camera if needed. It’s nice that the OM5 can be big or small depending on need.
That’s where I’m leaning
If you really like what your full frame camera can do compared the OM-1, I’d keep the OM-5. However, if features like subject tracking are important, as well as high shooting frame rates, I’d keep the OM-1 or maybe look into the OM-1 II.
So what i have found buying the nikon zf I enjoy the camera when im using the 26mm 2.8. But if i put the 35mm 1.8 on it id rather use the om5 with 17mm 1.2. Couldn't just pick one from those two or the two i have for a similiar comparison. But for your concert i would take om5.
Om5 it is
I recently sold my om5 for the nikon zf. I also had considered the om1. My reasoning: find the your main use case to own m43 next to full frame.
For me: The om5 has a place as fun, bring everywhere camera, fuck it if it breaks-camera, with a very high quality image output. The small size, relatively low price, and still ergonomic, is the perfect combination for owning both full frame and m43.
I appreciate the om1 for its tank-like weatherproofness that brings easy of mind. And I think high quality compact zoom lenses is where m43 shines. But its not something I personally enjoy as photography, meaning I wont take a camera with me when it rains 😂.
All other reasons are minor in my opinion: the difference between newer sensors and the om5 is not that big. I find the om5 also responsive and modern in autofocus.
I sold the om5 for one reason only, the fact its weather sealed and the lenses Ill want to keep are not (15mm, 45mm). This bugs me in a strange way 😂
Thank you so much. You buy all the gear we'd all love. This is a hard choice. Om1 is so nice, battery,cards, ergonomics,inner tech. But footprint as u say so close to full frame option. But the om5 oh boy Optimus prime. At the concert. I can't wait til you get the om systems om5ii😂
I have both and neither is going anywhere. I use both of them extensively on events for different purposes and both perform excellent. If you do not need the money I just cannot understand why you should get rid of one of them. You keep the OM-5 obviously for its size. Then ask yourself is the full frame camera as rugged and weather sealed as the OM-1? Has the full frame camera Live-ND (64), Pro Capture, Live Time, Live Composite, Object recognition, Art Filters, and so on? Do you want to lug around two sets of different mount lenses just for the sake of full frame? If not, you should keep the OM-1 as well.
It’s a Nikon d780. I think it gives a different look at times.
@@ericrjennings Nikon definitely gives a different look and quite a beautiful one as I am concerned. Like I said, if you do not need the money I would not sell any camera. I have a lot of cameras and use them exactly as you say for different looks or different needs. To me it is not a problem if a camera sits on a shelf for a while as longs as it is there when I want or need it. Just my thoughts. I am curious what you will decide 🙂
This will probably reach you too late for tonight’s concert. But I too have both an OM-1 and an OM-5. And I sometimes shoot performances here in NYC (nightclub, theater). The OM-1 has been disappointing in its low-light focus locking/tracking performance, even with up-to-date (May 2024) firmware. The OM-1 may be great for birding but I’ve found it to be no better than the OM-5 in low/bad-lighting situations. There is an OM-1 firmware update coming in the fall so I’d try to defer a keep/sell decision till then. The Panasonic G9M2 has better autofocus than both OMs but even it is inferior to the Sony A6700 in subject-tracking performance.
I find the 8-inch lens limit interesting. That would rule out my present favorite concert lens (the massive full-frame Tamron 35-150 F2-2.8 on the A6700). But unless you are located very close to the performers, I fear the superb Oly 75mm won’t have quite enough reach. If the performers aren’t wildly all over the stage AND you are willing to lower your shutter speeds (start at 1/200 and go down) and/or raise your ISOs (start at 3200 and go up), then MFT has several lenses that might work out (Oly 40-150 F4, 12-100 F4, 40-150 F2.8, Panasonic 35-100 F2.8). BTW I hardly ever worry about higher ISOs if it means getting an in-focus, non-motion-blurred shot. Ai post processing can reduce high-ISO noise, but not poor focus or motion blur.
I'd lean to the OM-5. Just being a smaller body may also give it a pass for your concerts or anywhere else. My bias is toward smaller cameras and why I have an E-M5.3 instead of an E-M1.2 :) Honestly, the only real downside is the AF system. And no USB-C for charging given when it was released.
Om5 Because you have to put a value on portability factor and grab and go over another bigger (better spec) camera..
Thank about it..
Are you really going to notice a lot on the quality differences?
Are you going to make an 8x10 print?
I’m 60 years old and I had a amazing Leica camera for 30 years
After the frustration of bringing that with an extra lens after the first year
I decided the fun factor and the ease of just grabbing something as I was running out the door was so liberating..
Still have my leica and enjoy it a lot
But only at a relaxing venue
Blessings Greg
The positive point of the OM-5 is that it is small and this is not found much in other brands. OM-5 can be used in situations, like concert, where you can not enter with big cameras.
The OM-1 has not the size advantage and it is the same size as a medium prize FF cameras. If you don’t need high speed photo shootin, which is the strength of OM-1. Or you are shooting mainly potraits or subjects on short distance, the OM-1 is overkill. In this situation you can sell the OM-1 and buy a medium range FF.
I can't help you there, but I will say I almost ordered the G9II, but didn't because it's just a little to big for what I want it for, but the day isn't over yet ;)
I know this doesn't help you, but I've been struggling with this issue too. For now at least, I have an OM-1 and an A7CR. So far, I haven't found a rational for keeping the OM-1or even trading it for an OM-5. The Sony is significantly smaller and lighter than the OM-1 and is the same size as the OM-5 except for the depth. That's because it has an actual grip which the OM-5 doesn't. If you add the grip to the OM-5 is larger and heavier than the Sony. But what about lenses you ask? Surprisingly, for my use case, and considering the equivalence factor, they are fairly close. I want a walk around lens for travel etc. Maybe the 12-45/4 for the OM-5 (that's an F/8 equivalent) and a Sony 28-60mm/4-5.6.for the A7CR. Still lighter and faster than the OM. Same goes for wide zooms and telephoto zooms, and with the Sony I have the option of 60mp or 24mp in crop mode with extended range. I have fought this for months, because I have a sentimental attachment to Olympus, (first film camera and first digital camera) but I just can't ignore the facts.
This is exactly what makes me sell Olympus every time
I would keep the om1,they promised an update later this year.if you put on a small lens it still very portable.😉
I have both an OM-1 and OM-5 so here's my thoughts. It's not about the cameras as much as your use case. There are things an OM-1 can do (i.e. computational photography) that no other camera can do, FF or not, but if you don't use those things then they won't count in your decision. You mention the body size of the OM-1 is about the size of your FF body, but you don't seem to tie in the much smaller MFT lenses which will always make the OM-1 system smaller than an equivalent FF system. With the OM-1 you have a pro-grade camera which gives more than enough in many areas to make up for what it give up relative to *some* FF cameras for many use cases. But does that work for you?
So, that leaves the OM-5. Your "transformer" analogy is very good - the hand grip you already have does give that camera the ability to comfortably handle longer lenses. The "plastic" body of the OM-5 is an advantage in reducing weight. I have an OM-5 and a PEN-F, and although the latter's metal build is satisfying to pick up, the OM-5 is much better to carry, and the kinds of plastic used in camera bodies is very strong and will shrug off impacts that could bend a metal body. The menu system is not that big a deal - yeah, the OM-1's menu is much cleaner, but with all the custom preset storage and button programmability of the OM-5 how often do you use the menu system? With the OM-5 you are choosing a very capable camera you can configure to fit in a (big) pocket, as you described. But, you are also relegating your MFT gear to non-pro uses and as a "small" or backup system, which for me would be doing that system a big disservice.
Personally, I'm a dedicated MFT shooter so I would keep both and dump the FF camera. But, that's me. Taking just your video comments, it sounds to me that you think your FF camera does enough of what you would use your OM-1 for that there is a lot of overlap, but you can't ever configure your FF system to fit in a pocket like the OM-5 - so it does something that no other camera you have can do. Good luck!
I run myself in circles on this question and so far just give up and keep the om-1 and my em-5 iii. If I had to keep one, it'd be the em-5. Easier to have for bopping around. Just wish it had the better menus and usb-c charging.
Your.problem from where I sit is that if you do this, you no longer will have redundancy if you sell either. The full frame can't use the lenses, so not an option. OM-1 or OM-5 fail, and you have the other that you can swap the lens you wanted to use onto. Keep both, or you're likely to kick yourself over it later.
Why one of them needs to go ? I have both and I keep them both. Best combo ever.
Just because I have a ff camera too
I have both and I’m going to keep both.
The OM 1 only makes a big difference in animal photography. Birds etc. if you’re not doing that, keep the OM 5 for the size.
You will always get into a situation were you want a small capable system and the OM 5 is pretty good at being that.
You always have Full Frame for more sophisticated stuff.
I have both, but if I had to give one up, I would probably keep the OM-5. Simply because it can be smaller. The image quality is really not too much different at all.
I'd keep the OM-1 if you're doing wildlife, waterfalls (more ND stops), etc. If you're doing quick snaps, the OM-5. I'm not sure the OM-1 is worth it for the 300 F4 though. You can get the full frame 300 PF for lighter or the 400 F4.5 from Nikon. I just got the 150-400 and it's amazing, but not sure the other wildlife lenses are better than recent full frame offerings.
Hardly an agonizing decision, just pick one and go or it, the mere fact you have to put an extra grip on the 5 kinda means its not for you. I have used EM1, EM5 mk2 and EM1 mk2, and really it makes no blinkin difference. It reminds me of a song and is very applicable to your girlfriend or your camera, so when you think you want to stray, say to yourself "just love the one you are with" Not a bad philosophy in life. Love conquers all demons
I own the OM-1 and an E-M1 iii (from which the OM-5 is derived). If video is important, then keep the OM-1, as (versus E-M1 iii/OM-5) it's a much better camera for video - very low rolling shutter, better C-AF, 10-bit capability, better image detail etc. - and it's got a much better EVF. But if it's primarily for stills use, I'd be tempted to keep the OM-5 instead just for the smaller size/lower weight (I've thought about buying one myself for that reason as replacement for my E-M1 iii).
M planning to move from canon eos rp to mft. will em1 iii or em5 iii will be better choice. shd i move to mft. i mostly take portraits. have 24 50 and 85mm
The om-5 is still pretty big! I’d sell that one and get an even smaller MFT.
Like what
Olympus Pen (ep-L8)! So cute :-)
If no birds or wildlife or live nd 64 I would say keep the OM-5
So…. You should keep the OM-1 and list the OM-5 on FM😉 I sold mine a while ago and really miss it. I have a Sony FF system but still prefer Olympus/OM for fun and everyday carry.
OM1 all the way, a more professional body that can do more especially when the environments where you take photos are humid and warmer, it will not suffer more wear and tear if you don't baby it...
I think the positives on the OM1 outweigh the OM5 or at least in my opinion. Better battery, menus, focusing are just a few you mentioned
And I have neither. I still have an OMD EM1 II. and Fuji X-S20.
Let your lens selection or what you want to use for a lens decide. The OM5 is a powerful camera, and so lovely in size, but if you want or need bigger lenses then keep the OM1. That said, if you already have a FF get rid of the OM1.
I’d keep the OM-5 if I already had a larger camera. It’s nice to have a good camera that isn’t too pro looking, and you’ll have that with the OM-5. Saying that, I can see a use case for an OM-5 (family, travel), OM-1 (wildlife, landscape) and a FF camera for low light photography.
The three camera setup seems unnecessary but I tend to agree with you
@@ericrjennings yeah, it definitely is, but then I’d maybe stop the constant switching between systems! I was out today with my 40-150mm f/2.8 and a GX9 trying to take some bird photos, and it was good fun, but the autofocus isn’t best suited. So that’s where an OM-1 (or G9II) comes in. I’d then like a cheap FF (Z6 most likely) and a couple of primes for indoors and winter.
OM-5 since it won't be your only camera.
No one else is asking: who are you going to see?
Hozier
If you're going primes, and not shooting fast action, the om5 should do the trick
I have neither...Buuuuuuut.....I have a EM5ii and EM1ii. The 5 is used mostly around the house and in my area. I take the 1 for memorable trips to faraway lands due to the 2 card slots.
Keep both! Then you’ll always have something to consider, keeping your GAS at bay!😁
3 cameras feels like a lot right now
I'd keep the OM-1, but take the OM-5 to the concert
I would keep the little one.
OM 1 because of the menue
Take the om 5. In low light better Autofokus
Appears that you have more pros than cons for the OM-5...
Easy - if there are places where you’d take the 5 and not the 1, keep the 5.
If it’s size your after om5
No question, OM-5 should stay
While this is actually just click bait...no one really needs anymore than the OM5...people get too wrapped up in what the camera "tool" can do....keep the OM-1, but as I said you don't really need anything better than the OM5! Micro 4/3rds can do most everything one needs. It's about you, not the camera!
It’s not clickbait. Clickbait implies the title is misleading. It’s not. I delivered exactly what the title suggests the topic is about.
Wear ear protection. Tinnitus sucks.
DO NOT SELL.
Keep the OM1. OM5 is plastic.
Sell them both and buy another camera that is not perfect and use it for a while. Don't fight it. It is who you are.
There’s my spirit animal