I recorded the Sunshine Hotel on VHS when it aired on the Sundance channel back in the early '00s. I'd watch it every Sunday afternoon up until I moved from my apartment in '07. I don't know what happened to that VHS, back I haven't seen the film since '07. Today the film randomly popped into my head, so I decided to Google it and this video came up in the search. I'm from Brooklyn (born and raised), and remember when there were ads in the Daily newspaper for rooms to rent at this hotel (that was back in the '80s/90s). I went there for the first time in '92 (I was 19), after getting into an argument with my mother. I'll never forget the feeling I got when I arrived there. The place terrified me, and I just couldn't stay there. I couldn't afford to stay anyplace else, so I just rode the trains for four hours and then went back home. I never forgot this place. Yes, it terrified me, but there was something about the people there. They were broken, misunderstood, ignored, "crazy" (but not really)....that was (and still is) me. It sadden me when I heard the hotel was closing. My first thought was "What will happen to the people there?" I really appreciate this film and I'm glad that I found it, again, on Amazon Prime. I'm going to watch the deleted scenes now, and watch the film this Sunday afternoon. Thank you for this.
You sound like a pretty cool guy. Iam 70 and remember flop houses. When I was a boy in the late 50s and early 60s I wanted to live on the bowery. I wish I was born in the 30s and live on the bowery. God bless and take care. Nate is so cool.
thanks for making these deleted scenes available. Love Nathan. And Vic. They lived the best lives they could considering their circumstances. These guys face and words will stay in my heart always..and in God's...
One of the most compelling, albeit heartbreaking documentary’s that I have ever seen. I highly recommend to anyone and everyone to view this riveting glimpse, into one of the now forgotten, flophouses of the past century. This documentary is beautifully disquieting in every way. Watch it.
This documentary should be in a museum. It’s a look into American humility in a pre 9/11 America, and the end of an era. This should sit next to Johnnie Rex’s film surrounding skid row Minneapolis in the 50’s.
I think the one thing I love about this documentary is that these guys are still going. They have had their share of bad luck but who hasn't, it reminds me of my uncle he was like some of these guys. But the thing is,is that anybody can roll over and die that's easy it's living that's tough.
Just saw the documentary on prime and couldn't get enough; so here I am. Such a poignant and profound slice of life. I wish the people in the film contentment; if not in this life, then in the hereafter. Seems like many of them are/were kind and gentle souls.
How horrifying that Nate experienced the war, watching another man be (more than likely) killed because he was mistaken for him, and his mother murdering those kittens and leaving them for him to find!
Thank you for the additional scenes. I was very involved with these men. Didn't want their stories to end. It's sad their gone but good they no longer live such a drastic existence.
This documentary was great I have watched it now 3 times in a row straight. Everyone is always one step away from this but it's what you make it to be,if it's bad than it's bad but if it's good make it better
I did a street view of Chauncey and cannot believe the difference to 20 years ago. Great movie. The cinematography of the movie was excellent and must have been extremely difficult for a documentary!
I just watched this documentary on Amazon Prime, so heartbreaking and real. This makes you realize how lucky you are, this could be any of us, nobody intended their life to end up like this. Thank You for doing this film. Like others have said, I’m invested in knowing more.
Man watching this documentary brought me back to when I was in my teens running around the duce ( hells kitchen) break dancing and hustling for tips ...dude in the doc wasn't lying about how much drugs that was being sold ..I remember they had people from all walks of life day and night lined up to buy cocaine heroin and crack ...as a teenager I didn't have the depth to see that the majority of street people I was coming in contact with were broke lost souls .. watching this documentary made me think about some of them ...I remember this lady they use to call her main line Bec at one time she was one of the best looking pros in the duece but by the early '80s she was strung out on heroin hard and every dollar she made from turning tricks had a mine line into her arm...I remember seeing her in hells kitchen around 94 and she had developed that fat hand thing that happens to dope fiends when they kill all their veins...then their was puerto rican frank and his pre op cousin Marie the sex worker and her puerto rican pimp ...I heard many years later her/she and the pimp died of aids.. I remember the guy telling me their faith said by the time Marie died she couldn't hold he bowels Bec of all the tricks he/she turned poor guy died wearing diapers in some filthy rat filled shelter .. I heard frank went to prison for stabbing up some crack head that stole his stash...then their was a pimp name shakes he was talk light skin with hard eyes he drove a 1984 Seville custom painted light yellow with a white quarter ragtop ...I still remember him with his hands full of diamond rings.. I remember his pimp friend name tailor made because he only wore tailored made suits made in china town..he drove a jet black Cadillac eldorado i Remember every Saturday both of them use to wear all black..one of my friends asked tailor made why they always wore blk on the weekend...he said to let those other muth f pimps know when we on the streets it's death to the game so they better keep a close eye on they bitchs...I remember them and all the pimps and dope dealers all standing around playing Celo sniffing cocaine drink liquor while their worker's and pros worked.. I remember the pimps Bec they gave us young dudes jobs watching their pros when we wasn't break dancing..we had to write down every lience plate of every car their women got into...I heard tailor made just disappear no one every knew what happened to him ...shakes and his women became hard core crack heads.. I heard that after going to prison a few times he got clean and moved back to the Midwest to be a drug counselor....man so many of those guys were in their early twenties to early 30s and the majority didn't make it past 40 the late 70s early 80s was hell on earth in NYC....from Hell's kitchen alphabet City the Bowery thousands of lost souls ran through those areas......
I haven't seen the film (I'm gonna seek it out) but that's a fascinating history! You oughtta write a book, _I_ would buy it. Sad, the way that for a certain type of person, things have a way of just always getting worse (although there are exceptions, hopefully the pimp that cleaned up in prison continued to contribute something positive to the world, and do well for himself, as a drugs worker.) The story of Marie is so sad... It's unfashionable to say it, and I don't say it out of a desire to cast aspersions (I speak from a place of personal experience) but getting pounded constantly in the ass isn't a thing that comes without physical ramifications. Of course the AIDS sure won't have helped any...
This is such a beautiful film. Humanity and honesty in every nook and cranny of a roach infected flop house in the middle of New York City pre-9/11. “All these men were children once. What has happened to them and what has happened to me. It’s dark …. And cold out here”. It’s poetry in the flesh.
i've been filming for the past yr and this film looks alot like the things i enjoy capturing, my mother was watching this the other day, i was captivated
One of my favorite documentaries I went to the Macy's Thanksgiving parade this year and while in NYC I wanted to see the Sunshine hotel so I walked from Chelsea to the Bowery where the Sunshine was and I got some great pics of the outside. It was an hour walk and my feet hurt but it was worth the walk. The outside looked like it was painted but it still had 245 Sunshine above the door.
This was what life was before 9/11. These people were at ground zero when the Twin Towers were hit, and I would of loved to hear their stories of that awful day. It was a different world back then. No cell phones or internet, or flat screen T.V's. I think life was a lot less stressful than today's high-tech complicated world.
I remember when the neon sun.burnt out on sign out front. This was in 1978. The Sunshine Hotel..one of my more poignant moments. I was with a guy I loved alot. His name was James. I was only 18. Little did I know that it was a bad omen for me.
I lived in a veteran SRO it was a lot cleaner than this but point being is the government banned places like this more than ever we need places like this that would significantly decrease the homeless population
I wish I knew what happened to all the people in the documentary! Also, who was cleaning the bathroom? Or if they tried to spray for bugs lol poor guys. Did vic ever leave??? I have so mamy questions. Also, they shouldn't have deleted any of these scenes. Great documentary! Very interesting!
Mostly, they died. Kashmir is still alive and well. She is living in Staten Island. She took part in another documentary about four or five years ago called Born to Be. It’s a very good documentary. You should check that out. The original version had all of the deleted scenes, but that was a 2 hour 15 minute film. It was way too long in my opinion. But that is the way it showed at film festivals.
I'm getting kicked out..I'd ask to get a room there but no way would I get any sleep there and it's infested. Guess I'll buy a tent and pick a warm city. I believe There's still 7 operating Flophouses on the Bowery. The others not any better.
@@laurap1151 'I didnt have heat, cooking gas, hot water or pest control for 2.5 years. I filed 17 complaints withe the city of New York. They closed all 17 cases without fixing anything. They are totally CORRUPT. I'm looking for a housing lawyer to sue the CITY and to fight evfiction because after 9 months without services the city considers the property uninhabitable-I want to be given Squatters Rights to stay. The heat and gas are back on (after 2.5 years) but no thanks to the city at all. If I lose-I plan to go where I can afford to live- there are some States (not the East coast) with affordable income restricted housing. I cant go right now as I have been diagnosed with something bad and I need immediate medical care I wont ghet if I move out of State. (there's a long waiting period to be reinstated for medical) Life..is hard / But I didn;t give up. Legally if the owner didnt repair the gas in a timely manner-rthe CITY is legally obligated to fix it. They fixed nothing and I wound up with a very bad lung infection followed by a month in the hosptial. I plan to sue for pain and siffering and their negligence.
Well, if Nathan didn't understand why his mother was mean for throwing those kittens down the landing, then he wouldn't understand why his wife had to escape their marriage in the middle of the night. And now he's gone.
Id love to find out who all is still alive from this doc? I know Bruce passed not to long ago...R.I.P. Bruce... This was filmed in 1999, released in 2000-2001...so i figure afew of them are no longer with us... Wish theyd do an update on "where they are now"?
I recorded the Sunshine Hotel on VHS when it aired on the Sundance channel back in the early '00s. I'd watch it every Sunday afternoon up until I moved from my apartment in '07. I don't know what happened to that VHS, back I haven't seen the film since '07. Today the film randomly popped into my head, so I decided to Google it and this video came up in the search. I'm from Brooklyn (born and raised), and remember when there were ads in the Daily newspaper for rooms to rent at this hotel (that was back in the '80s/90s). I went there for the first time in '92 (I was 19), after getting into an argument with my mother. I'll never forget the feeling I got when I arrived there. The place terrified me, and I just couldn't stay there. I couldn't afford to stay anyplace else, so I just rode the trains for four hours and then went back home. I never forgot this place. Yes, it terrified me, but there was something about the people there. They were broken, misunderstood, ignored, "crazy" (but not really)....that was (and still is) me. It sadden me when I heard the hotel was closing. My first thought was "What will happen to the people there?" I really appreciate this film and I'm glad that I found it, again, on Amazon Prime. I'm going to watch the deleted scenes now, and watch the film this Sunday afternoon. Thank you for this.
You sound like a pretty cool guy. Iam 70 and remember flop houses. When I was a boy in the late 50s and early 60s I wanted to live on the bowery. I wish I was born in the 30s and live on the bowery. God bless and take care. Nate is so cool.
thanks for making these deleted scenes available. Love Nathan. And Vic. They lived the best lives they could considering their circumstances. These guys face and words will stay in my heart always..and in God's...
One of the most compelling, albeit heartbreaking documentary’s that I have ever seen. I highly recommend to anyone and everyone to view this riveting glimpse, into one of the now forgotten, flophouses of the past century. This documentary is beautifully disquieting in every way. Watch it.
This documentary should be in a museum. It’s a look into American humility in a pre 9/11 America, and the end of an era. This should sit next to Johnnie Rex’s film surrounding skid row Minneapolis in the 50’s.
I saw the documentary "The Sunshine Hotel" and was happy to find these deleted scenes. Thanks for uploading this. RIP Nathan!
I think the one thing I love about this documentary is that these guys are still going. They have had their share of bad luck but who hasn't, it reminds me of my uncle he was like some of these guys. But the thing is,is that anybody can roll over and die that's easy it's living that's tough.
That song by Nate is such a beautiful piece. A little haunting and sad..
This is LOst CLassic material!! Thanks for posting! Loved the original doc!
Just saw the documentary on prime and couldn't get enough; so here I am.
Such a poignant and profound slice of life. I wish the people in the film contentment; if not in this life, then in the hereafter. Seems like many of them are/were kind and gentle souls.
Me2. Back again
Same here
I keep coming back to watch and relive the men of the Sunshine Hotel. Riveting Wish Nate was still with us!!!
One of my favorite documentaries 👍👍👍🏆🏆🏆🏆‼️‼️
I'm glad you like it!
It’s my favourite.
That and the sex pistols documentary the filth and the fury .
I will show this to any friends that will watch it .
Fishing with John is damn good as well ( it’s not really that much about fishing )
How horrifying that Nate experienced the war, watching another man be (more than likely) killed because he was mistaken for him, and his mother murdering those kittens and leaving them for him to find!
Thank you for the additional scenes. I was very involved with these men. Didn't want their stories to end. It's sad their gone but good they no longer live such a drastic existence.
This documentary was great I have watched it now 3 times in a row straight. Everyone is always one step away from this but it's what you make it to be,if it's bad than it's bad but if it's good make it better
Heartfelt and authentic. Not much more to ask for. Nate should have gotten a recording contract. Just Incredible playing. Ty.
EXACTLY!!!
TRUELY TALENTED!!!
I did a street view of Chauncey and cannot believe the difference to 20 years ago. Great movie. The cinematography of the movie was excellent and must have been extremely difficult for a documentary!
Thanks for posting, they used to run this movie a lot on IFC in the late 90s early 2000s cool to see it again.
The full film was on Sundance Channel from 2002-2004.
I just watched this documentary on Amazon Prime, so heartbreaking and real. This makes you realize how lucky you are, this could be any of us, nobody intended their life to end up like this. Thank You for doing this film. Like others have said, I’m invested in knowing more.
I adore Vic's abstract art! If I ever get a chance I would treasure one of those. Phenomenal!
I hate to say it, but they were all most likely thrown out...by Nate.
@@mdominic Where exactly in NYc was this Sunshine Hotel? Thnx!
@@chairlesnicol672 On The Bowery
Man watching this documentary brought me back to when I was in my teens running around the duce ( hells kitchen) break dancing and hustling for tips ...dude in the doc wasn't lying about how much drugs that was being sold ..I remember they had people from all walks of life day and night lined up to buy cocaine heroin and crack ...as a teenager I didn't have the depth to see that the majority of street people I was coming in contact with were broke lost souls .. watching this documentary made me think about some of them ...I remember this lady they use to call her main line Bec at one time she was one of the best looking pros in the duece but by the early '80s she was strung out on heroin hard and every dollar she made from turning tricks had a mine line into her arm...I remember seeing her in hells kitchen around 94 and she had developed that fat hand thing that happens to dope fiends when they kill all their veins...then their was puerto rican frank and his pre op cousin Marie the sex worker and her puerto rican pimp ...I heard many years later her/she and the pimp died of aids.. I remember the guy telling me their faith said by the time Marie died she couldn't hold he bowels Bec of all the tricks he/she turned poor guy died wearing diapers in some filthy rat filled shelter .. I heard frank went to prison for stabbing up some crack head that stole his stash...then their was a pimp name shakes he was talk light skin with hard eyes he drove a 1984 Seville custom painted light yellow with a white quarter ragtop ...I still remember him with his hands full of diamond rings.. I remember his pimp friend name tailor made because he only wore tailored made suits made in china town..he drove a jet black Cadillac eldorado i Remember every Saturday both of them use to wear all black..one of my friends asked tailor made why they always wore blk on the weekend...he said to let those other muth f pimps know when we on the streets it's death to the game so they better keep a close eye on they bitchs...I remember them and all the pimps and dope dealers all standing around playing Celo sniffing cocaine drink liquor while their worker's and pros worked.. I remember the pimps Bec they gave us young dudes jobs watching their pros when we wasn't break dancing..we had to write down every lience plate of every car their women got into...I heard tailor made just disappear no one every knew what happened to him ...shakes and his women became hard core crack heads.. I heard that after going to prison a few times he got clean and moved back to the Midwest to be a drug counselor....man so many of those guys were in their early twenties to early 30s and the majority didn't make it past 40 the late 70s early 80s was hell on earth in NYC....from Hell's kitchen alphabet City the Bowery thousands of lost souls ran through those areas......
I haven't seen the film (I'm gonna seek it out) but that's a fascinating history! You oughtta write a book, _I_ would buy it. Sad, the way that for a certain type of person, things have a way of just always getting worse (although there are exceptions, hopefully the pimp that cleaned up in prison continued to contribute something positive to the world, and do well for himself, as a drugs worker.) The story of Marie is so sad... It's unfashionable to say it, and I don't say it out of a desire to cast aspersions (I speak from a place of personal experience) but getting pounded constantly in the ass isn't a thing that comes without physical ramifications. Of course the AIDS sure won't have helped any...
Thanks so much for uploading these.
An absolutely flawless, beautiful documentary.
Thanks for the scenes 😮
Enthralling in its poignancy. Thanks for posting. Thanks for sharing Sunshine with the world.
This is such a beautiful film. Humanity and honesty in every nook and cranny of a roach infected flop house in the middle of New York City pre-9/11. “All these men were children once. What has happened to them and what has happened to me. It’s dark …. And cold out here”. It’s poetry in the flesh.
i've been filming for the past yr and this film looks alot like the things i enjoy capturing, my mother was watching this the other day, i was captivated
This movie is one of the all time greats, capturing a slice of time unlike any other.
Thank you.
This is an excellent movie. Just stumbled upon it last night.
Just love this insightful and heartbreaking documentary. I watch it on Amazon often and was thrilled to find these deleted scenes..
I loved this movie and I am thrilled to have found this deleted scenes video. Thank you for making this available to us.
So compelling, thnx for sharing this supplement to the masterpiece. Vic was a real artist!
One of my favorite documentaries I went to the Macy's Thanksgiving parade this year and while in NYC I wanted to see the Sunshine hotel so I walked from Chelsea to the Bowery where the Sunshine was and I got some great pics of the outside. It was an hour walk and my feet hurt but it was worth the walk. The outside looked like it was painted but it still had 245 Sunshine above the door.
Thank you for your work sir. Life changing.
Currently working on play script to sunshine hotel and a mixture of characters. Thank you for this
It’s already been done. Please be aware of copyright issues.
Loved this so much. Thank you for making this film ✨✨✨✨
Outstanding. Wish I could see more
The full version is on Amazon. Link is in the description.
This was what life was before 9/11. These people were at ground zero when the Twin Towers were hit, and I would of loved to hear their stories of that awful day. It was a different world back then. No cell phones or internet, or flat screen T.V's. I think life was a lot less stressful than today's high-tech complicated world.
"Johnny " would roar with laughter if he was still here, who knows, maybe he is laughing😂😂😂
I remember when the neon sun.burnt out on sign out front. This was in 1978. The Sunshine Hotel..one of my more poignant moments. I was with a guy I loved alot. His name was James. I was only 18. Little did I know that it was a bad omen for me.
I lived in a veteran SRO it was a lot cleaner than this but point being is the government banned places like this more than ever we need places like this that would significantly decrease the homeless population
One of the best documentaries I’ve seen. Let’s just say I’ll be damn sure to max out my IRA each year from here on out!
I have to know if any of Vic's abstract art is available for sale.
I love the children in the beginning 😂❤
Vic would've been a dangerous drunk in his younger days. You see the rage flash whenever he starts getting to drunk.
10.28 You sir are both a gentleman an a scholar.😁👍
Wish I could see a video of inside the building now, not sure if it’s still vacant up there, but seeing the lobby now would be cool.
It was pretty much demolished when I was there a few years ago.
@@mdominic What year was this done?
@@chairlesnicol672 it was shot in 1999 & 2000. These things are searchable.
@@mdominic Maybe for u but I'm kinna old school n I wouldn't know how to get the info , that's why I ask! The film looked way older though!
This was a great documentary!
Anybody know what’s the song that he plays at the end of the doc? Did he made it up?
This is a great documentary, although never been at this one I’ve seen other flops and people like this. To me it’s sad, the forgotten ones.
Did you watch the full film?
@@mdominic yes I did, more than once.
@@letsgobrandon6018 Awesome.
I wish I knew what happened to all the people in the documentary! Also, who was cleaning the bathroom? Or if they tried to spray for bugs lol poor guys. Did vic ever leave??? I have so mamy questions. Also, they shouldn't have deleted any of these scenes. Great documentary! Very interesting!
Mostly, they died. Kashmir is still alive and well. She is living in Staten Island. She took part in another documentary about four or five years ago called Born to Be. It’s a very good documentary. You should check that out. The original version had all of the deleted scenes, but that was a 2 hour 15 minute film. It was way too long in my opinion. But that is the way it showed at film festivals.
@@mdominic thank you so much for the response! I will definitely check the other documentary out!
Ray was fantastic!
Those hotels for men are disappearing from cities. Would help now it seems.
I'd like to see all of the footage that was captured
Great movie...Don't believe everything you think....
Was Ray Starks found????
I'd love to know also!
No. Not yet.
I was confused about what Nathan’s said about his drug use.
Did Nathan used to use drugs or did he never stop?
He stopped many years ago
that was very mean. she could have tried to give them away. one by one.
Unfortunately this isn't available on prime
What country are you in? It is on Prime in the USA and UK.
@@mdominic Canada
@@mikeyetman8407 I see. You would need a US account.
Chauncey Street apartments are over 2million now
I'm getting kicked out..I'd ask to get a room there but no way would I get any sleep there and it's infested. Guess I'll buy a tent and pick a warm city. I believe There's still 7 operating Flophouses on the Bowery. The others not any better.
What did you end up doing? How are you?
@@laurap1151 'I didnt have heat, cooking gas, hot water or pest control for 2.5 years. I filed 17 complaints withe the city of New York. They closed all 17 cases without fixing anything. They are totally CORRUPT. I'm looking for a housing lawyer to sue the CITY and to fight evfiction because after 9 months without services the city considers the property uninhabitable-I want to be given Squatters Rights to stay. The heat and gas are back on (after 2.5 years) but no thanks to the city at all. If I lose-I plan to go where I can afford to live- there are some States (not the East coast) with affordable income restricted housing. I cant go right now as I have been diagnosed with something bad and I need immediate medical care I wont ghet if I move out of State. (there's a long waiting period to be reinstated for medical) Life..is hard / But I didn;t give up. Legally if the owner didnt repair the gas in a timely manner-rthe CITY is legally obligated to fix it. They fixed nothing and I wound up with a very bad lung infection followed by a month in the hosptial. I plan to sue for pain and siffering and their negligence.
That was a cat in Nathan's room rite???111
It wasn't a. Rat that size was it ???
Look on shelf in Nathan's room it will move past fast
Well, if Nathan didn't understand why his mother was mean for throwing those kittens down the landing, then he wouldn't understand why his wife had to escape their marriage in the middle of the night. And now he's gone.
She didn’t have to throw the cats though. I’m sure neighbors or a vet/shelter would have taken them.
Those kids were funny!!!😂😂😂😂
I couldn't have killed any creature. I didn't even step on ants. they are all alive and God's creatures.
There is always a percentage of people, who have troubled lives, in Society.
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A bit of the old ,in and out.
I don’t know what this has to do with this.
I loved this doc🥲I came to youtube to see if anyone knows what happened to Karisma. I hope she is doing well 🥲
Id love to find out who all is still alive from this doc?
I know Bruce passed not to long ago...R.I.P. Bruce...
This was filmed in 1999, released in 2000-2001...so i figure afew of them are no longer with us...
Wish theyd do an update on "where they are now"?
I too would love to know. Specifically the trans woman. Hope she is doing okay!