Parana Toothbar Install & Destroying the Kubota
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ย. 2020
- Hey what's up,, well this install was good until it was not. We finally got our piranha toothbar, super easy install and we ended up destroying the Kubota testing them out. I hope you enjoy the video, cheers!
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Ive had the Parana Tooth bar on my 1025r for three years and it works great!
I got the Reversible Cutting Edge from BX Attachments. Bolts on using the existing holes in the bucket, no additional drilling required. Simply remove all but the middle bolt and spin the cutting edge around to the other side. Has a smooth side for leveling and snow removal tasks, and the other side is a toothed cutting edge...Looked at the piranha tooth bar and didn't like that you had to drill holes to mount it....I like the 2 cutting edge options on 1 bar so I went with the one from BX Attachments. I've seen a lot of videos on the Piranha bar too either option is better than destroying the factory edge on the bucket and rendering your bucket unusable, especially in heavy digging and rocky applications.
I totally agree, love mine when taking on clay!
I contemplated the bolt on style toothbar and went with a heavy Hitch bar. Uses set screws to hold it in place. Plus and minus to each type of attachment.
Two comments. I have owned and ran Kubota tractors for 16 years for home use. 72 acres. They have been outstanding. Im a Kubota believer. As for the Pirannah bar. Like the guy said, its worth every penny. I have put mine through the test. A lot of my property is pretty rocky. I was afraid I would demolish it when I bought it. It is super tough. Ive dug a lot with mine in rocky ground. Ive worn it some, but its still really great condition for what I have put it through. And, I think it makes it a lot easier on your tractor. Its hard to do anything with that plain bucket edge. I would buy another tomorrow if I needed to. Buy it, you wont regret it.
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Ive had mine for ~5 years, love it. It digs better than a smooth bucket obviously, especially since my land is mostly packed sand and gravel, and it completely obliterates brush and scrub which is mostly what I got it for.
I have a little bigger Kubota, and the bolt had to go through the reinforced part of the bucket. Turned out a friend had a magnetic drill press which we drilled it with, or I'd still be there today with a subscription to drill bits trying to make the holes.
Only complaint I have is that if you want to use clamp-on bucket accessories, like hitch receiver or pallet forks, you have to remove the Piranha.
It doesnt really matter how much you tighten the bolts because theyre only there to keep the toothbar from falling off when you backdrag or dump. The pushing is provided by the bucket itself inside the groove of the toothbar.
Outstanding tunes for the timelapse -- Wicked cool toothbar. Nice farm.
I installed one from bx expanded about three years ago, love it . One of the best investments I have ever made was the under armor from bx expanded. Can save you hundreds of dollars in repairs..
Very important to keep air filters changed it doesn't take but a couple tablespoons of dust to ruin a engine, I wouldn't worry about that it isn't a oil leak it's just the dust sticking to the oil vapor a little blow by is normal for a new engine until the rings seat, my M5500DT still running great @38years old
Playing with big toys gets real easy to get carried away. The bigger the toy the more fun it is. I used to get so carried away with my dozer, when clearing our land, that it would be dark before I stopped. I could barely see my way to my truck. Good Luck, Rick
Where’s the destroying part? You ended video with some oil coming out of the cap? Borderline clickbait!
@Biker Rat no intercooler on a bx
@Biker Rat lol ok bud. I own a kubota. A bx is not turbo charged. Sounds like you need to learn something bud. 🤔
@@jakewhitney8201 After all that talking Biker Rats did, he thinks BX have a intercooler , LOL now that's funny!
So yah the 24 hp diesel in sub compact tractors I don’t know of any that have intercoolers or turbos. I am interested in how oil was coming out of the fill cap though. Engine over filled? I have a 1025r and work it hard and have never seen oil come out the fill cap
@@tyrrellroach5872 with all that dust I wonder if the crank case vent plugged up causing pressure to push it out the cap.
I’ve had a piranha bar on my MF GC1705 for 160 hours. Wouldn’t own a tractor without one, transforms a subcompact into a little beast.
Can you explain in detail? Everyone seems to love them, but I can’t find an explanation why.
Love that video and the bar. I have one and just as an FYI, it’s a good idea to slam the bar with a piece of wood against the front of the bar and a sledge when initially fitting and mounting. I got mine to move an additional 1/2” tighter onto the edge of the bucket which will improve the overall rigidity.
Definitely a good idea!
I’ve seen others do the same on an install.
@@sunjaybedi4389 th-cam.com/video/vN9GR6xRw24/w-d-xo.html
Sometimes the vent tubes clog up on the crank case oil , I'd check that since you are working in the desert , Holy cow that looks like some serious cotton mouth .
Charles nice video. I have a 3301 and when I mow a lot of high grass radiator screen will get dirty and need cleaning. I hope that was it. It has a warning but hard to see.
I respect a man comfortable enough to wear a sun hat. Good on ya big guy!
Took delivery of my new BX2680 last Sept. While waiting I ordered the optional teeth. They are awesome and work great. Easy to take of in Nov. for snow removal. LOVE this machine, YOU had your chance "DEERE".
Indeed. Bought a used BX2660 little over a year ago. Love that MoFo! My wife is angry with me because now, I spend more time on it than I do her 😅🤠💪!!!
@@patriotriderfromhell8130 My wife loves it for that very reason lmao
Charles, the piranha toothbar is well worth the money. I had one on my Massey 1533 and it was great. I am now about to install a piranha toothbar on my new 1760M. Thanks for the video.
It is for sure a must-have! Congrats on the new 1760m!
I like how the paranabar sharpens itself as you wear it in.
I bought one about 2 yrs ago and put it on an LS XR3135h and that bar is still on bucket ,I want ever take it off,It is like a knife through butter,It digs so good ,good luck on your engine,cant imagine what is causing oil to come out the top ,unless it is a factory problem...
Definitely one of the best things you can get! And yea, not sure what caused the oil, but she hasn't since!
What was it a crankcase vent valve?
Nice vid, thanks! I have one just like it but have yet to install it
I've had mine 2 years, one of the best additions for the money
Whta kind of drill bit did you use..i just installed a bar on tractor but ended up having to use plasma to cut holes and none of my so called high speed steel bits would work,,i have many projects ahead of making a box blade and scraper and a proper bit that would cut would be great,,,i have several of the step bits,,just need some bits that will cut s smaller hole in the beginning..
watching the paint dry was the most exciting part
If you like that, You should check out my garage video where I paint the whole thing!
@@charlesmateker8131 😂🤘🏼
I kind of liked the light aimed at camera myself.
@@Mike-zu5xj were we expecting steven spielburg productions? Haaaaa i appreciate these home grown vids.
Check for a loose oil cap or a bad seal on the cap. The vent tube for the crankcase, could be blocked. Also check the compression you could have a cylinder with excessive blow by and pressurizing the crank case.
I’m putting my money on the vent tube for the crank case. . Bugs etc will clog these hoses up. Also check those vent tubes for the axles. They will have the same issue. It’s not a design flaw, it’s just the nature of the beast. Bugs , bees are always looking for a place to nest. This just falls under good ol maintenance. I had one blocked last yr that I had to clear and I will check them all during my maintenance BEFORE working the tractor. Great Vlog! Oh by the way, I gotta Piranha bar on my Kubota L4701- works great, well worth the money.
The music junked another video 👎🏻💩
The engine breather is clogged thats why oil is coming out the fill cap.
And it would greatly help your bucket if you put a bolt on cutting edge on then the tooth bar
I was gonna guess it was dust related. I don't know why I thought that: 6:21 ha ha!
@@uk7769 th-cam.com/video/vN9GR6xRw24/w-d-xo.html
That little Kubota kicking some ass.
I put a Piranha bar on my B2650 Kubota loader when tractor was new…the bar is a good help with everything I do.
I bought the piranha bar, the trencher bucket and the root ripper from BXpanded. All worth the money. Took several months to get them though
Been there,,bought my L35 Kubota backhoe new in 2006,,every scratch hurt me deep,,lol
Thanks for sharing such nice video and sound 👍
Man I like that tooth bar I am going to see about getting one for my tractor. Thanks for the video! New sub!
What a great video yo!!! love the time lapses!!!
Nice job 👍
Put a parana bar on my Branson, best attachment ever I’ve been cutting trails through Forrest and it will cut through 2” and smaller trees. Bigger stuff I can usually pull out if I can get a bite in it. It will also shear off tree limbs on cedar trees really quick 👍👍
I found it’s great for digging but if I’m grading dirt or gravel it’s useless so I take it off and use the factory edge
We bought a L 2800 in 2004 and a toothbar. The teeth were pinned to the bucket and they eventually all broke off, The new ones were cheap then at like $4 each and the dealer said weld them on. The toothbar is one of the best implements u can get. Rock popping Tree roots,small trees. ,digging. Well worth the $$. The holes in the side were like yours .Edge stuff can vary on the bucket. My forks had to be altered to fit my bucket. When you dig go high on the bank and then work down,not from the bottom up.Less strain on the tractor.
Nice... thanks
Nice Curtain, it matches the harbor freight step bit.
Such a GREAT "Stip-Mineing" Vidio. Just Think YOU "Tortured " that little tinker-toy to DEATH. Thank you Sir for the Excelent vidio and happy safe tractoring. Best wishes with all your endeavours.
I've had one for about 6 months and it's great...
Hell yea! I've been loving mine as well.
Why is it great compared to a normal edge? What will it get me?
@@emmettkelly7465 It really digs much better and protects the edge of your bucket from bending. BTW, nice name you clown. Lol,couldn't resist.
Oof you’d really benefit from a dump trailer to cut the wheel time on that job… plus you could use that to transport the tractor to gravel or whatever else you wanted to load ;)
Cool cutting edge, thanks for posting!
Where can I get one I’ve look around a lot
Tooth bars are great! Glad to see you don't reply to the trolls who know nothing about engines. I would have to guess you had a fairly "simple to fix" engine breathing problem. Was that it? Thanks.
I am curious why the oil was coming out
Sold me on those teeth. I'm ordering them soon. Hope your motor is good! That was a lot of dust. Those Kubota engines will run forever. Probably nothing but a little bit over heated. Thanks for the video.
Hell yea man!! those teeth are well worth every penny! And you're right I think it had to do with the dust and heat.
Hello, new follower here. Great video install. I’ve been looking at those bars. Are you happy with it? We do a lot of cedar tree removal, and I’ve wondered how it cut/digs on hard soil. Thanks.
I love it, it works great. I'm not sure about clay, but the dirt I am cutting into is pretty clean hard-packed for the most part and it's doing a great job.
I love mine. Installed on a B2301(LA434)!
wasn't sure if the video was somehow going to imply the piranha was a cause of destruction... OF COURSE IT WASN'T
@@benstearns9089 th-cam.com/video/vN9GR6xRw24/w-d-xo.html
I've never seen any of my engines crapped up like that. The first thing I would check it to make sure the filler cap still has its gasket, even if the vent is blocked, it shouldn't be pushing that much out.
I'd also verify that the oil levels are correct.
Head gasket? Check compression.
@@cliffordsoudil7856 th-cam.com/video/vN9GR6xRw24/w-d-xo.html
I want one, thanks for sharing
Can you weld it on? What’s it made out of
I think that compact tractor is getting more work hauling the load. Maybe try using a dump trailer or even a truck to move the bucket loads instead of running back and forth like that.
I like the tooth bar
That kind of defeats the purpose of having a tractor loader with wheels Dontcha think?
And loading the bucket
I’ve had the tooth bar for four years on my BX2670. I abuse my tractor. I don’t try to break it but I work it hard. Thing is a tank.
I hear you, man!
peanut tractor
That little bucket beats a wheelbarrow and a shovel
Hell yea it does!
Cool video, thanks
I bought the Heavy Hitch. No drilling.
You will love the tooth bar.. I have one on my Bx23s and my L2501 kubotas
Wow. What some people think should be on the internet
Your Kubota must have turtle, rabbit and hummingbird speed ranges! I hope your Kubby survived.
Will drilling a hole in bucket compromise the value of the bucket for resale?
Nice tooth bar.
I would put bolt nut on the outside so they don't get buggered up so you can remove the bar easily if you need to. Just a thought. Nice video
Thank you for the good idea!
It really doesn’t make that much difference. The pressure in breaking out the material is great inside & outside of the bucket. These cutting edges are expendable and usually are welded on and cut off. Edging, to clean up your work surface, will wear out the cutting edges, and the bucket, itself. Use it, & lose it. Been wearing them out for over 50 years, on loaders, dozers, and excavators. They all fail from use. Enjoy and good luck!
@@hans-jurgenwiegand7465 it's not about the bar, more about the threads and the nuts being jacked up. Prevent having to cut them off down the road.
Was my thought as well.
@@hans-jurgenwiegand7465 .... I put a new cutter bar on my Kbta-2550. It looked like it was for a grader(?) I cut it down to the width of my bucket and matched the taper an inch or so out past the original cutter blade and welded it on. It’s a dirt eating machine, and it’s saving the bottom of the bucket from drag-wear.
Enjoyed your video, but feel bad for ya over the oil leak. I have a new Holland 25s with the same task of moving earth but it’s mostly sand. Good luck
Everything is good. Just waiting for snow to melt now to get back after it.
Where did you purchase it at?
What was the oil problem? Very interested what the dealer said.
Before bolting the toot bar on it’s a good idea to use a piece of 4x4 lumber against the front of the teeth and bang on the front edge with a sledge to snug it on before marking your holes. Mine moved in a good 1/8” which means more of the bar is in contact with more of the bucket!
Why would you need that when bolting through to a a slot?
@@Cudamon986 I'm assuming you're just drilling a single hole vs. creating a slotted hole.
@@thebottomlessbucket5337 they drill the hole in the back of the slot, the slot exists to adjust the tool on the bucket. If you drill the hole in back of the slot, you will not be able to adjust the tool...makes no sense. That is not how a slot and clearance hole connection works!
Nice
I ordered a piranha tooth bar for my Kubota L 4701, which should basically turn it into Godzilla. The fed ex guy that delivered it while no one was home actually propped it up against the tailgate of my old truck instead of putting it on a big Tex trailer I have that he actually had to go past! My first job after i mount this tooth bar will probably be too Chase that dang Fed ex guy around my property with the Kubota Monster on his next delivery , anyway I think I will be pleased with this implement, because I have not seen one review that was negative!
They work great! and I hope the truck is alright!
I've considered getting one of these, but here's my dilemma. I do a lot back-drag grading with my loader bucket while maintaining trails through a woods that floods periodically. The flooding erodes the trails, and I have to build them back up and then smooth them out. So my question is, how does this impact back-dragging? Can you still get a decent surface, or is it rough? I know I can probably grade better with a rear blade, but as of now, I don't own one. Putting teeth on the loader is tempting, because I have a lot of small trees and stumps that would be a lot easier to rip out with a little more bite.
You can back drag with tooth bar attached. Keep the bucket level. The more curl down the more it acts like a tile trowel.
Theres some videos on here of people backdragging with them and honestly it looks better than a flat edge bucket.
It actually helps back dragging even more. It busts up the clumps
Check your air filter. Lots of dust. Also causes dip stick to blow out.
I know now why I want a cab
Do you have a link for this? Probably going to get one for my soon to be delivered LX2610. Wouldn’t mind seeing something similar made for a backhoe bucket. Serrations like those would be good for slicing through tree roots.
www.bxpanded.com/piranha-toothbar
oil breather plugged?
Oil blowing out the cap would be blow by. Rings not seated properly. How many hours on that engine?
At the time of recording the video, 20ish. It's been to the deal and they couldn't find anything. But I think your right the right was not seated properly. I have almost 40hrs now with no issues.
It might be a bit late to mention this, but even though that bar is made of a material that is allegedly better than AR500, that's still a wear item, and I usually tell friends looking at getting one to consider getting a style of bar that has replaceable teeth. I'd say the same thing, even if it was made of Hardox. For future reference.
Also for future reference...
Kubota is actually a pretty good tractor, and a good value. At least up until Tier-IV. I am less impressed with the stuff coming out from the mid-teens forward.
That said, a BX is kind of a light tractor for that work. I'd want a minimum of a 3100 or 3500 Grand L series. A 4070 would be a great choice for that, especially if you pick up pre-owned one that was well maintained, but from the 2000's, though maybe the mid-teens. I have a friend who bought some of my stuff when I closed my business, and he has an MX series that he really likes. I gotta admit, if I were going to get a "Last Tractor" for general property work, I'd likely go for an MX5,200 or a Grand L60. 4wd of course. I sold a Grand L 3560 a few years ago, and that was a pretty good tractor for it's purpose. Didn't like the regen nonsense, or HST transmission. I like the GST much more.
Anyway...
Good luck with the clearing.
Eeeeeh maby some bigger machines!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
great video i should try a parana toothbar
Well worth it!
Been waiting for the follow up on your oil leak on the kubota
blowing oil out the cap,, the crank case vent tube pluged up.. well in high speed video from far away, you can really see how well it digs,,
I will give the crank case vent tube a look, thank you for the insight.
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What that orange over spray on your truck?
Buckets aint really made for diggin breakin into soil. U are best to make a 3 to 4 prong ripper for the rear to rip up freeing the material then scoop up with bucket to save transmission of tractor.
Wow piranha tooth bar... wow
Thats alot of work. What were you moving soil for?
I'm building a wall and raising my front yard.
If you would of drilled the holes more forward you could of loosened the two bolts, slid the tooth bar forward and turn it up then tighten bolts and then you can use the regular blade for back leveling or forward then loosen bolts and put tooth bar back in the usable position. Just a way so you don’t need to totally remove the bar and yet keep it attached.
That is a great idea. I wish I had thought of that bf my install
It sure does pay to read comments! Im definately buying a parana bar soon...and drilling a bit forward. I thought, at first, it was a bit pricey because mine is gonna hafta be 72 inches, but now I'm convinced of it's value. Can't wait! Thanks a ton for the input!
The great thing about the Pirahna Bar that you can't get with a standard "tooth bar" is that when you do want to back drag or compact the ground with the Pirahna Bar you just level the bucket and it will be flat. A tooth bar leaves groves unless you really run the back part of the bucket in reverse which I would never recommend. Digs great, rips sapling trees out with ease, back drag with some angle and it rakes, level the bucket and go backwards and it compacts ... all while providing a wear bar for your bucket.
Nice install. I've heard about Parana teeth, looks really stout. You have a nice spread, with birch trees and all which state is this. Keep the vids coming, subscribed.
Thanks for the support man! I live in Wyoming, I love it here! and the Parana teeth are worth every penny!
What does the new attachment have to to with the oil leak?
What got destroyed on it?
All I can offer from decades of roaming the earth is, wear a respirator in that dustbowl condition.
I have something that you need to borrow its a AW900 it has a small 54 yard bucket the large bucket is 100 yard uncle had it made to build 6 lakes on the property in north Dakota now its mine out in Wyoming with the 100 yard bucket it can pick up 250,000 pounds of dirt what you have might have been one maybe two buckets we also have the D12 CAT with 25 ft blade or the 40 ft blade it can push 285,000 pounds of dirt out in front of you oh the blades are 12 foot high just something small for the ranch
for sure some better options!
You mean a WA900 wheel loader? Also... Cat never made a D12. One more thing... a WA900 only has a 19 yard bucket as the LARGEST option. A 100 yard bucket on a WA900 is impossible. You’re living in another dimension homie. 🤦🏼♂️
Use a cutting oil when drilling metal. The bits last longer and cut better.
Chainsaw bar oil works... or any other similar oil... if you do not have "real" cutting oil intended for drilling metal.
You're 100% right, I didn't even think to do so on this.
2 parts hydrogen and 1 part oxygen (water) is best for drilling, as a coolant. Oil should be used for cutting threads and broaching as a lubricant. Your lungs will thank you later
Not destroyed yet but better keep good filters on that thing or will be destroyed. Wow at the dust.
I dug a 5ft deep hole with one with a 5ft wide bucket.
what was the problem with your tractor
What did your dealer say about the oil leakage?
WHOA!! What the heck??
I suspect: he clogged the radiator with dirt. No cooling, overheat, and may have cracked the block. Hopefully just a blown head gasket.
You have to watch the temperature on the tractor.
Aldo people like to use the higher gears to move faster, but you need to use the low gear especially when doing a high load task such as forcing that bucket into well packed soil.
For any hydrostatic machine, use the gear range that has you putting the pedal to the floor. This has you flowing more fluid and cooling the system better.
Loved the video camera movement made dizzy
What you moving all the dirt for?
The country boy come out of me thinking hey that looks like a mighty fine shooting range burm lol.
Hopefully to build something there, but I do like where your head is at! Also raising my front yard a bit.
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Try to make a D6 cat out of a little residential tractor. See how that works out for you.
So what happened to the tractor? I never saw a follow up