Echolalia & Palilalia | What does Echolalia sound like | Autism Awareness | ASD | Child Speech Delay
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I was very palilalic as a child an still catch myself doing it occasionally as an adult. Your description, "confirm to himself that he'd said the right thing", is a spot on description of how it feels to me..
Same, it only started when I was seven, though. That's what's kind of confusing to me. I always repeat myself. It's so strange to catch myself doing it. Do you have any tips on how to become less "nervous" or "anxious" while speaking?
yeah I started as a kid because I would think about what I could've said to be more articulate or clear in what I was saying. I've always been very conscious about what I say and how I say it, and I always thought my little repetitions were just a product of social anxiety. I do it for basically every word I say, no matter who I'm saying it to. it's just kinda burned into my brain at this point and it doesn't really bother me. although sometimes my sister will point out when she hears me repeat and it makes me a little self conscious lol
Yeah same
Though i mainly use palilalia in my internal monologue and i do it for 3 reasons:
1 to confirm that i said something using my internal monologue and not out loud (i didn't always have an interal monologue, i used to just whisper to myself, and my internal monologue is still very motor controlled so it can be hard to know sometimes)
2 i repeat myself using my internal monologue to ensure i said the right words out loud
3 i repeat myself in my internal monologue to make sure i said the right words in my internal monologue
@@troybutts6565 same somewhat
Thank you for the video, as someone who has APD, I can really resonate with echoing back what the other person said. I noticed that when I particularly am having speech delays during a conversation, I will repeat what they’re saying silently with moving my lips as minimally as possible, and it really helps me process the language. Because to you, I know now why I do that.
I love learning through the people who have personal experience.
My kid is 13, but only just got diagnosed with ASD.
He didn’t have delayed speech as a toddler (if anything it was the opposite. Huge vocabulary, but slightly behind in a lot of motor skills), but he’s had palalia almost as long as I can remember.
I remembered my little brother doing it and figured my kid would grow out of it, but he hasn’t. At first I thought it was a normal part of learning language.
All this time I thought he never exhibited echolalia, but your descriptions make me think he did when he was little. But again, I assumed it was normal language learning.
Like, if I said “let’s clean up” and he said “clean up!” I’d just say, “That’s right, we’re cleaning up. Clean up.” while putting blocks in the basket or whatever.
It just seemed like typical toddler language learning to me. Even when he repeated words and phrases he already knew, it still felt like language learning. Like his brain was reinforcing the term.
This is causing me to re-evaluate a lot, lol.
I’ve already been looking at him and realized that a lot of the behaviors I thought were just things he does when he feels silly or different ones when he feels relaxed/sleepy, are actually him stimming.
This has been very helpful. Now I know what I was doing that brought attention to myself at around age 6 or 7 when my friend’s teenage brother asked what I was whispering to myself, and my friend said matter of factly, “Oh she does that all the time.”
Oh man this is incredibly interesting. I learned that I whisper after I speak when I was in about 6th grade (my mom thought I knew so she didn’t tell me) and I’ve always wondered why I do it. I don’t realize I’m doing it most of the time, but people don’t typically comment on it unless they’re really close to me, like my best friend or my partner. It’s not surprising if it’s from ASD, I’ve never been diagnosed but my brother has. I don’t know how often I do it cuz I almost never catch myself doing it, but I know I do.
My daughter is 4 years old she totally improved in communication with the help of alternative medicine Doctor isibor herbs.!!!!
Thanks for sharing. It is brave and loving of your family. God Bless you.
I can see the pain in your eyes. Wishing you and your family all the best. May your life be filled with love and happiness. X
I taught him to say i want "water" but the water part was in my language...he started saying i want water all in English by himself 😊
Thank you so much for sharing your life with me. You're such a fine person and such a dear mum. All the best for your family
Very good video. And what you said about advice especially (not necessarily wanted ...) advice from friends & family versus your gut feeling about your cild and medical professionals knowledge ist 100% true! Much love
very very well spoken and it is genuinely so inspiring to see that you learned and grew so much to help your child
your videos are now helping me help my little brother (10) with ASD, my parents sadly don't have the time or just won't (because it IS emotionally tough to deal with) so i'm trying to find ways to help him navigate the world easier. i think i may be on the spectrum as well and the way my mother treated my behaviors growing up really confused me and isolated me further.
i think this is why your videos mean this much to me personally, thank you so so so much for being the person you are.
Thank you so much. We have had a bit of a break from the channel but I feel really compelled to start producing more content :)
Wow...thanks for the very kind words. I am glad that we are helping others with our experiences - that was always the goal!
Thumbs 👍 up! This video has helped me understand my child better!!!! Thank you for sharing!
I'm so glad! Hopefully there will be some equally helpful videos coming up soon :)
My cousin has palilalia, and i have a weird form of it too.
I didn't always think in words and speaking, even after i had learned to speak. I used to repeat things i heard others say (for example I'd say something a character in a moviehad said) because i didn't know how to form my own words for it to communicate the idea i was trying to get across or contribute to conversations
At around 10 i learned to read, and somewhere between 14 and 16 i developed an internal monologue, not just thinking in feelings, concepts and senses(sounds, pictures/video, smells, and rarely textures) anymore. But it started originally as me whispering things to myself as a child, before i would begin to close my mouth make no sound and just move my tongue. I can think in words without moving my tongue now, but it's harder.
I sometimes have a hard time discerning if i said something using my internal monologue or if i said it outloud sometimes, and separate to that i need to repeat what i said in my internal monologue to be certain that i thought those words correctly.
Also i have a hard time thinking verbal thoughts while listening to and fully processing speech because of this.
I use my internal monologue and hidden voice to help me process what people are saying, repeating their words. It can be hard for me to swith between listening and speaking because of this, im not planning what to say in response much i am just repeating what i heard to help process it.
Communicating through text is way easier for me because it caters to my speak/listen thing and helps me process what people are saying better than hearing. Plus i get time to think about what i am saying and i don't have to try and remember what has already been said. Text is an accomodation for me.
Our 5 year old autistic son has a tendency to use echolalia (And palalia) quite a bit. Sometimes it's immediate and other times it is quite delayed. The other day he heard a video and it said *Oh my God, it's Mr. Peabody and Sherman!* Well, for the next three hours (With just a few breaks) he kept repeating it over and over again. At one time I thought he was going to quit for good, and when he restarted again I made the mistake of saying *Oh, sh*t*. Well, then he started saying the Peabody and Sherman line followed by the Oh Sh*t line right after it. Luckily, we didn't have to go anywhere that day.
I know this one all too well!! Thankfully max hasn't ever picked up our naughty words but he has said some korkers in his time 😁
My son has few words and one of the is sh*t 😂 one day my husband said it since then when ever someone uses it he repeats the same😂
@@zahraali7905 Eeks. Luckily ours only seems to use the same ones for a day or so and then switches on to a new favorite phrase the next day.
Yeah i do the same and used to as a kid more vocally. I got self conscious about it at some point and started to whisper it instead of saying things outloud loud. Eventually i started using my "internal monologue" (speaking to myself making no sound)
Oh man, this breaks my heart. My son goes through this.
My 3-year-old is echolalic and has been for a while but I thought it was part of normal language development.
My son is 5 and shows signs of both, he has trouble going to the toilet himself but his level of intelligence is off the scale, the school psychologist had said he had a strong case and CAMHS are reviewing it
Liked for the best advice ever at 4:30 !!!
I'm almost eighteen and I still deal with this. No matter how many times I apologize and explain repeating something was involuntary, my parents always forget every time and call me out for being rude or mocking them. 😕
You may have tourettes instead of or along with ASD. If you're 18 and have involuntary speech, that's beyond most autism.
@@KeepTheGates it could also be anxiety
Your just slow in the head..
I still have palilalia today and I'm nearly 30. Lol. It's a bit annoying but I can't stop it from starting usually unless I'm focusing hard.
I think I do this often too. I believe we all do it in our heads and it's called the phonological loop and "rehearsal" in terms of our memory/brain processing. It's fascinating isn't it! :)
My son is 4 and recently started this thing where he tried to say what we say as we say it, same with tv shows or songs- It started when he liked songs and tried to sing them but didn’t know the words so would quietly sing what they sang as simultaneously as possible, with only a slight delay, & gradually became something he did with tv shows, then everyday conversations. He doesn’t always do it, but very frequently. Is this a form of echolalia?
Same with my son, he repeats his own words loud than quieter
Thanks so much for posting this. It's such confirmation for me that I do know my son best. He's 2 and I started noticing things when he was an infant. He definitely expresses with echolalia. Thank you for mentioning the struggle with discipline and having what you said repeated back. It helps to know I'm not the only one who gets frustrated. My son does it with a smile on his face lol
He has been evaluated in all areas and they have said there are a lot of "red flags" for Autism and that they will retest at 33 months. For now, we are going to start speech, in home stimulation specialist, and OT feeding. I feel with all of my heart that my son is Autistic. I've known since he was an infant when he would throw our hands off of him when we tried to touch him lovingly. To needing a very very specific routine for sleeping. Then being able to count on one hand how many times he made eye contact with me. It's a lot more now but he has only done it once while I'm holding him and never while breastfeeding. Etc.
Anyways, I have a couple questions for you. Did your son use phrases in one situation that came from a different situation to express a need in another situation even though the word or phrase isn't obvious to the new situation. Lol I realize that's probably confusing. I'll give you an example. My son will repeat I know I know I know baby when he gets hurt or feels uncomfortable because we say oh I know I know baby when he gets hurt or feels upset.
He also will say sit down baby when he sits down instead of just sitting down because I say to him sit down baby, but not at that exact time.
Another thing he does is he will repeat the word vacuum over and over for a couple minutes when he sees the vacuum or just at other times, and he will do that many times over the course of a day or he will pick our plumber's name to do the same with. He also repeats phrases that seemingly have nothing to do with the situation
Like he will say I pressed it when he didn't press anything. I have yet to decipher that one. It may be a delayed echolalia. Or he will flap his arms when he is upset or frustrated. Sometimes he runs to a corner to say no no no no for a bit when he's upset.
He also will keep doing the same things over and over no matter how many times we redirect, explain, or tell him no. It's like he HAS to do them. Things like throw the lamp off of the side table, open the oven and stand on it, open the washer and throw something in it. When he does it, he gets all giddy lol
I really related to the part when you said you thought you were getting somewhere with speech. My son just recently had a language explosion. Now I realize it's mostly just imitation. I mean, he will use a few words sometimes like the dog's name when he hears her bark and he definitely can say hi to his Dad.
So I'm just wondering if any of this sounds familiar to you?
Great video coverage I'm having this problem with my child right now what advice can you give me going forward to help her with speaking
I used to do this when i was a kid and so did my little brother people just thought we were naughty or bad children. Btw we still do this to this day.
that was great, we are trying to get Ben to copy the same sort of sounds and noise that we make,
The more I think about it, I think I have done both of these, and I think I still do palilalia - I thought it was something everyone did but maybe it isn't! I'd be told off constantly for copying and repeating when I was sort of a toddler/young child of 3 or 4 years old.
It's so unbelievable when you realise these things isn't it. I'm glad you found the video helpful. We will have an update on this coming really soon👍💙
@@ASDbytheSea Thank you! My brother was diagnosed young from around 5 years old, but I'm now 27 and only really now starting to come across some real issues where if I hadn't been in a good work environment, I feel like I would likely have lost my job. I can't thank my workplace enough for their support. I've been trying to find answers and at first the NHS route didn't go so well as it felt rushed, I didn't have anyone to go through the assessment face to face, so didn't have the best chance I guess, and at the time they deemed I didn't have enough to say I was autistic too, but I had a screening and second opinion privately and this is saying something different. Unfortunately I can't progress with the full diagnosis through work, they were great in allowing the screening at least, but now I have to compile everything together to take back via the NHS route- and this time I am going to request I specifically see someone face to face, you'd think that would be the first option though really, but I guess autism diagnosis in adults isn't taken as seriously or given as much attention.
Look forward to more videos on this! It makes me so sad, I was looking at some old childhood videos and I saw some parts like clips of flapping, but I don't have much of me from around 3 years old as my parents would record and focus on my younger brother, which is fine, but I don't have a full picture. I get the feeling some footage may have been deleted as I had been seen as "naughty" too. But there are times in the videos where I'm told frequently to shut up when I'm giggling jumping and making noises or told to move out of the way while they were filming my brother, and then often there would be long periods of me playing alone in another room and I have no idea what I was doing then. I'm not too sure if my parents will remember much from it, but I do think I may have shifted to palilalia quite soon after being told off for using echolalia, maybe misunderstanding it as me being naughty and copying my mum, I think I had excitement from the copying but I can't remember what the thought process was behind it. I also repeated phrases from disney films and songs constantly over and over, but they maybe saw this as a normal part of childhood and autism in girls wasn't really a "thing", especially as I was the first born and my brother's asd needed more attention and help at the time.
i have High functioning ASD and i do that when i repeat
Echolalia
1:44 I am hearing myself explain this exact same thing to someone who dared to tell me my husband and I have no backbone. So many people think a good spanking is what mine need and oh on the contrary no--- I'm sure you all understand here. ❤ love to you all
Your right, your not supposed to spank the slow kids! Lol
Sorry for your luck
My daughter is palilalic. But so far it's the only symptom of ASD, nothing else so far. Do you know if it's still enough of an indicator?
I have both Echolalia and Palilalia annnnnnnnnnnnd I grew up in Deal! Subbed.
My son 2.6 years is echolalic. Understands all instruction but just do not seem to be able to express his wants with words and sentences. Just wanted to know, if it will ever taper off with time and any suggestions or directions on how we can teach him things more dynamically and technically
He's just slow.. hopefully he'll catch up. Sorry for your luck..don't spank the slow kids.. 🐌
@@KGB.83 what is wrong with you?
I am probably in denial that my child has some form of autism. He has echolalia and I have put it off for some time that he may be autistic as well. He seems to respond emotionally and he seems more at ease and tries to converse when he is in his comfort zone so I was not worried for a time. COVID lockdowns were no help as well since he was only over 18mos when it started. I still want to believe he is just very shy with echolalia as a speech delay rather than part of the spectrum. He has his own channel, Baby Savie, if you would like some reference on how he is.
I can see this comment is from 4 months ago. Apologies I have taken so long to get back to you - How are things now? Would love to know! :)
@@ASDbytheSea we have started face to face schooling! He has grown a lot in the behavior front. He still has a lot to catch up on speech-wise, but as baby steps go, he has been skipping and hopping. It pays to have a supportive therapist, a welcoming school, an encouraging family and a positive attitude from my son as well. His happy demeanor makes it easier for everyone to push through all the difficulties.
@@teptalk This is great to hear!! :)
I've had palilalia for as long as I can remember. I'm an adult and my wife still catches me doing it and I never even realize.
It's amazing when you realise isn't it! Funny old thing this Echolalia and Palilalia business! :) x
I was thinking if it's the same with me. About 2 or 3 years ago. I was repeating a phrase but in silent voice.
My girlfriend notices it. Now i don't have it anymore.
Is this the same,m
Very informative video. Thank you. X
Glad it was helpful!
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How long to take improve his echolalia ? Means at what age he said his own words.
Thank you for this video.
both of mine do it Claire , its like i have x2 parrots in the room repeating half my life away haha. Did you ever notice thst when mine do it they do it in the persons accent too or there persons voice
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Thanks for sharing
This is very helpful! Thank you for being so transparent. I do have a question..Did Max ever only repeat the last sound that he heard when you were talking to him? For example, lets say you were teaching him "water" but he only said "wa" ..so then you slow down and enunciate "wa-ter", and this time, he would only repeat the "ter" part. Was that something you experienced before he started repeating whole sentences? I've been doing some research and I cannot find anything on this and if this is something to be concerned with for a child who is a late talker (almost 2 1/2 yrs old). If anyone has helpful input, that would be great as well
HI Christina,
Sadly this doesn't sound familiar so I wont be able to comment. Max always used the full words. Do you have a pediatrician or speech therapist? They may know the technical name for that which would enable you to do more research :)
All the Best x
Thats normal for speech delayed toddler
My boys still do this now
My son keeps saying duppie duppie duppie he's six and I'm thinking this is a stim. I'm trying to get him tested because he's got alot going on making me think autisum. is this common? What would you even call this
Hi Shauna, I can see this comment os from 6 months ago - How are things now?
Hello. Today my Mom made me aware again that I silently repeat myself. I've been told this before but hadn't really bothered to research it until today.
I am a young adult (older than 21) and I do have Autism. However, I am a highly functioning Autism/Aspergers.
I don't even realize I'm even doing it. It's definitely not intentional.
From what I've read online this happens with kids or people with Autism, maybe even a brain tumor and speaking fast.
I have had a binary brain tumor that affected my pituitary gland for 8 years and is finally gone with medicine. I also tend to speak very fast where people tell me to slow down and say it again.
It's not something I worry about but I am wondering now if it is Palilia?
Not sure. I think so
What about when you repeat someone else's words from a conversation from years ago 🙃?
Good Question. I wonder if this is some form of delayed echolalia or a form of PTSD perhaps? Really interesting question. I am doing a degree in Psychology at the moment and we are on the subject of language so I will ask and see if I can find out a bit more and let you know :)
@@ASDbytheSea Thank you so much ☺️💚!!
People who have never lived it always think they know more than you do. Keep trying.
My toddler would repeat the last word in a sentence ...
Max's echolalia was usually full sentences but ofte his palilalia was just the last couple of words he said. It's amazing how it all works isn't it!