But what y'all fell to realize is that Instant transmission only work if Goku know where to go, if not he need to feel for a very high power level, especially if he extremely far away. So even though IT is Teleporting it actually does got a big drawback
There's also the fact that IT would fail anyway, because: 1) Being near a red star does not instantly remove Superman's strength anymore, it takes time for him to actually weaken. 2) Superman is still fast enough to just fly away to another star while phasing through Goku's attacks to recharge his power, or even find a blue/white star for a huge boost.
The fact a web series about the equivalent of banging action figures has more production value than actual movies is amazing. That final Kamehamaha Kaio-Ken and Sun dipped Superman clash was insane.
@@masterbeast-sz1yq Technically they're BIGGER than infinite, but if DB said the DC universe is infinite to (at least) the power of 2, there'd be no reason for the battle lol.
So it's cheating shit that Superman uses multiple suns to obtain his God form, despite it his biology to feed off of the sun, but it's not cheating shit that Goku uses not only God form but U, but here the funny thing what death Battle also forgot to mention and put in is that Superman actually has his own version of UI after he learned Kryptonians Martial arts which appears in comics years before DBS, however they gave that edge to Goku and not Superman, Also they are right Superman have more experience than Goku or any other Superhero as he is the first, and I hate to point this out to all db fans, but Goku was base off of the monkey king and Superman. I mean it pretty much obvious, especially there background. So don't get mad because superman won, and also if you look at it, Goku never even beat Vegeta in a fight Saiyan saga: vegeta was crushed by Gohan when he was turning back to normal Namek Saga: Vegeta was killed by frieza so they didn't fought Android saga: Goku was pretty much out of commission majority of this and Vegeta got owned by 18 Cell Saga: i shouldn't have to explain what happened here. Buu saga: it was Majin Vegeta who pretty much stop there fight Dbs superhero: Vegeta won their sparring So really Goku actual wins are The victories in dragon ball Defeating but not killing Frieza Defeating Kid Buu with the energy of everyone in the universe which is the only time the spirit bomb actually killed someone. All in all I'm both Dragon balls and Superman fan, and I could point out Superman lost and flaws as well. However, that would take longer and I only pointed out Goku flaws because let say someone didn't like the outcome or the facts. Goku not going to destroy the sun because he want to fight Superman at his full strength, that also why he won't use Kryptonite, and Goku doesn't use magic, he use Ki which it been explained many time that all living beings ( even Superman) have it, and also there was a Comic where Superman learn how to shoot out energy blast, though of course that another edge they gave to Goku and not Superman, and Superman can actually absorb the speed force to make himself even faster in fact there are some comic that flash would admit Superman is faster and some comic it's the other way around, or some it's a tie who is faster, it like this no matter how much they Nerf Superman they still make him more powerful because that what he was meant to be, after all the only Limits Superman has is what he put on himself, Goku was design to know that even though he has limits he push through them, and that's the difference Goku has to train to push through his limits while superman doesn't he only trained in something that he wasn't born with, also Superman doesn't need to eat or drink, he food source is the sun so when i say he feeds off of it, it's the truth, he only eat or drink something for appearance.
What upsets of this battle is the fact they didn’t get goku to use SSJ4 limit breaker from heroes even though it was mention in the preview as one of his forms. Or the fact that he didn’t use universal SSJB, his strongest variation of SSJB. I’m not saying the match was rigged or anything, I’m just upset he didn’t use those forms against Superman considering that they scaled him to his feats in Heroes
Agreed I think we should end it with this Goku is that guy who literally gave cell a senzu bean to make the fight fair for him when he faced his son when people say oh cheap shit there just being sore
@@MusashiMotto I've realized this is all bitterness when I thought of it this way: If you take DB's current antagonists, they could've squashed Goku from 10 years ago just as thoroughly and disrespectfully as Superman did. So where's the hate for them? People rarely call them overpowered or broken. If Goku had to fight his own arcs out of order, you'd have a similar outcome. That tells me that they don't hate Superman's power, they hate Goku losing with no victory on the horizon.
@@spiderturtle5292 facts I agree with you it's like my love for a death battle with gut an some blonde dude I don't know his name but I'm a big berserk fan but my boy lost an I was like darn but I'm not going to get salty like these guys an say that's a cheap shot they pulled there not looking at favorites there looking at facts I think people only want to hear what they want not what they need to hear an in truth I do believe death battle is correct they show their faces in public an still spout the truth knowing what others would say or even try to do that takes immense courage
People get on screen versions of Superman mixed up with the comic version. If this was LA movie, or cartoon, or video game versions of Superman vs Goku from all the DB animes and mangas then Goku would absolutely destroy him as Superman isn't nearly as strong but Superman at his best in the comics its a completely different country.
In terms of strength, Omni-Man is Coke Zero Superman. Insane strength and speed, _not quite_ the same durability. Look at what sunlight does to Kryptonians vs Viltrumites.
If you read the story world forger mentions the rest of his multiverse was collapsing. Meaning that superman didn't actually one shot the thing. It was the page when they returned to reality. We also have confirmation from the DCeditor (Andrew Marino) that world forgers multiverse wasn't stable and the only stable world was the future earth so when superman destroyed that everything starting collapsing. Basically outright confirms that Superman interrupted it, and wasn't actually that strong himself. It really depends what kinda feats he has in the comics then, but he might actually lose the strength category, giving Goku the win. Basically what superman did to the multiverse was like me taking out a support for a building. I can bring a building down if I do enough damage to a certain part of it but that doesn't mean I'm building level. Same issue. The statement that current Superman is a composite of every mainline Superman, is completely false as shown in Doomsday Clock. The Silver Age is NOT canon to the main DC Universe. The main DC Universe is Earth-0, while the Silver Age is Earth-1985. Superman only have memories of the previous lifes, he not is a composite Superman. Daizenshuu official DBZ guide by Akira Toriyama statements = DBZuniverse is infinite and 100% canon. Death Battle nerf Goku. They omited the strongest Goku's versions as Jump Force Goku fights against Prometheus (Prometheus is a God beyond tiering system >>>> all Jump Magazine franchises and cosmologies from all anime/manga). God Fusion Goku breaks the 4th wall and fused with *audience >>> author*. Goku beats Superman, no-diff. And comp Goku beats comp Superman with Milkman and CAS included. Goku wins. This is debuked.
Well look at what we have here, another case of Dragon Ball fans can't read part 527. But then again, what do I expect from someone who can't even spell "debunked" properly? Yeah, I wouldn't take an editor's statement as an absolute statement. Especially since both Marvel and DC editors in general have a history of being unreliable (I.E. Tom Brevoort saying Thor's reflexes are only street-tier despite very direct evidence in the comics themselves that this isn't the case). It's fine if what they're saying lines up with what actually happened in the comic, but if it doesn't, then I would say just disregard it. Oh, and let's not forget that the author of that story has clarified that the World Forager feat is as straight-forward as it seems. But ... just because I feel like humoring your B.S. argument, let's just say you disregard Superman shattering the multiverse entirely. Alright. He still knocked the World Forager on his ass and gave him a black eye, I.E. physically damaged him. Y'know, that same World Forager who created hyper time and imprisoned Perpetua when working together with his brothers? The same Perpetua who created the entire DC multiverse? Yeah, that World Forager. Superman still gets that kind of scaling regardless. LOL The comics themselves directly reference stuff that happened in the Silver Age, and even if you disregard the idea that Silver Age Superman = Post-Crisis Superman = New 52 Superman = Rebirth Superman = Infinite Frontier Superman, you could just scale Post-Crisis Superman to Silver-Age Superman via him fighting Golden Age Superman, so ... again, a completely mute point to begin with. (Wow, it's almost like people who don't read comics deliberately misinterpret stuff to fit their own agenda. Hmm ... 🤔) You do realize there are multiple statements literally in the comics themselves that the main DC universe is infinite as well, right? If they gave Super Saiyan God Goku infinite-universe scaling then the same thing would have to be done for Superman. They didn't do that for either because there are in-universe details for both universe 7 and the main comics universe that contradict this. Plus, it's not like it matters anyway, since DB placed both of them at infinite-multiversal+ or whatever. The DC multiverse just ended up being more infinite ... somehow. Jump Force Goku isn't outerversal. There's literally nothing in the actual game itself that supports that games cosmology to be anywhere near that level. Hell, he doesn't even defeat Prometheus in the main story, so even if Prometheus was outversal, Goku wouldn't be at that level anyway. Also, are we seriously arguing Goku breaking the 4th wall is some sort of feat of power? Because if so, then Superman has done that multiple times even in more recent comics. I guess Deadpool, Harley Quinn, and Joker all solo all of fiction what how often they've broken the 4th wall.
@@trexrising4097 DC editor >>> You. Nobody denied this. The question is how he did it (stopping WF's last hammer hit). If Superman's punch is multiversal punch (as Death battle version) Batman and his friends... 💀☠ World Forger's durability is featless. Just because the World Forger is capable of creating a multiverse doesn't mean its durability is that strong. Superman's punch is only moon level. This coincides with the scene where Perpetua defeats Alpheus when she threw a planet at him. This is debunked. I have already explained that they are not the same version. In fact silver-age does not have complex multiversal feats. "flying faster than infinity" is just a hyperbole (universal or universal++) feat.If Superman's speed is infinite then the specter cannot get in front of him since infinite speed cannot get ahead of him. The book with "infinite" pages really makes no mention of its weight, in fact it doesn't even have infinite pages because Superman reads the last page and if it is infinity should not have a last page. Furthermore, the book was already floating in the air. Atlas held the heavens for all eternity and Superman barely could hold it for a day. Superman was one-shoted in the sixth dimension. He doesn't even destroy World Forger. He only managed to knock him down for a few seconds and only hit him in the eye. I wonder what would have happened if the World Forger decided to attack Superman when he got up from the ground. Lucky Superman that WF wasn't so evil. Superman with infinite strength, infinite speed and infinite endurance are hyperbole. Goku's punches would hurt him. Prometheus is a villain who has the power to see the world as fiction. He was surrounded by the pages of the franchise's manga. Superman against him would only be a comic page around him.The Prometheus cosmology is all franchises and comp cosmologies of Jump Force Magazine company from the year 1960 - 2024. Jump Force Goku is able to develop a genkidama with the power to defeat Prometheus. No other version of Goku can do this. Even the main character absorbs the genkidama and her is able to defeat him. Goku is also able to absorb the genkidama's energy as he did this in the Android 13 movie. God Fusion Goku breaks the fourth wall and merges with the audience (audience > authors). Correction not only the viewers he fusion with Akira Toriyama himself, when that happens he became his own author, and therefore.. Make himself as strong as he wants with no limits, or consequences…☠
@@type-pro3907look at how many different non cannon forms you need to bring just to BARELY match BASE superman. But let's bring superman's strongest forms, the Thought Robot. Negative diffs every form of Goku, including non cannon, and I'll include fan made forms too.
@@utopias187 Nope, bro. Daizenshuu official canon DBZguide: Other World is stated "Transcend dimensions that cannot be perceived from the Human World". Other World is called the "Next Dimension" and is stated to exist as a completely different level of reality. Both Other World and the Kaioshin Realm act as observing worlds to the Mortal Realm. Koyama (the screenwriter for Dragon Ball) confirms the Kaioshin realm is higher. also... Daizenshuu = "DBZuniverse is infinite" and DBSH (non-canon) have a cosmology unlimited. Kid Goku has toon force with Arale in Akira Toriyama's manga. Goku DBS canon (early) have universal++multidimensional feat, this Goku uses kaiokenX20 and multiplies this power by twenty. Add tranformations and zenkais...⚰ Next... comp Goku: Xeno Goku (base) resist Demigra's attack = all multiverses in the timelines CC Goku UI beats Xeno Goku (SS4) and CC Goku have universal blue with multiverse power. Jump Force Goku with genkidama's power beats Prometheus (Prometheus is beyond tiering system) >>> all franchises from Jump Magazine company, year 1960-2024. God Fusion Goku breaks 4th wall and fused with audience (audience >>> author, and beyond fiction). Cosmic armor Superman is damaged by attack equivalent to 10 billions suns (galaxy >>> 10 billions suns). Mr.Mxy map: Monitor Sphere/Nil is part of the 4D multiverse. Milkman is only parody version and he is beated by Wonder Woman. Goku canon beats Superman base. 💀 Comp Goku beats comp Superman. ☠
@@type-pro3907 you are too dishonest, and biased to have a real discussion with. You don't know superman and it shows by how much you have to downscale and use numbers instead of FEATS (Goku almost died to a laser pistol,and lost to Beerus, and still loses btw, oh and loses to broly too, superman best true form darkseid lol). Comp superman's means you will be using the concept and idea of hope versus a character with just numbers to hide behind. Search up cosmic armor superman, who can adapt to the opponents every ability instantly, become superior to the oopents stars no matter how much stronger and faster they get, and change the story in order to win. You can multiply as much as you want it's still a number, superman is infinite, as strong as he wants to be. Infinity> numbers
This video is totally wrong there are many mistakes in it if you don't believe try to react these video Death battle Goku vs Superman 1 2 debunked by max pook and Official divine video goku vs Superman these are two different video watch them you will understand everything.
I watched that video too. Divine was biased towards Goku and used Heroes Goku to "win" even though not even that is enough. Simply put, Superman's World Forger feat alone is beyond all of Dragon Ball. In short, you are incorrect, Cope.
But what y'all fell to realize is that Instant transmission only work if Goku know where to go, if not he need to feel for a very high power level, especially if he extremely far away. So even though IT is Teleporting it actually does got a big drawback
There's also the fact that IT would fail anyway, because:
1) Being near a red star does not instantly remove Superman's strength anymore, it takes time for him to actually weaken.
2) Superman is still fast enough to just fly away to another star while phasing through Goku's attacks to recharge his power, or even find a blue/white star for a huge boost.
The fact a web series about the equivalent of banging action figures has more production value than actual movies is amazing. That final Kamehamaha Kaio-Ken and Sun dipped Superman clash was insane.
What do you think comes after quintillion ? Those numbers in this videos are real. Open your minds and listen
Actually, it's better than saying infinite because each universe in dc is infinite in size , but death battle wants to do maths 😂
THANK YOU!!! Jeez, why is the concept of numbers higher than billions or trillion so unbelievable?
@@masterbeast-sz1yq Technically they're BIGGER than infinite, but if DB said the DC universe is infinite to (at least) the power of 2, there'd be no reason for the battle lol.
"Superman has never died"
Doomsday: ...
Bros stop crying cause this has been done many times and Goku has no chance of beating Superman
Every dbz fan reactions is the same.... Salty af lol
Did bro really say shazam not magic hiya😅😅😅
He's essentially *magic* Superman. Like, he's almost as insanely busted as Supes, but his powers are fueled by god magic instead of solar radiation.
Actually, every single universe in dc is infinite .but death battle wants to do some maths over here😂
So it's cheating shit that Superman uses multiple suns to obtain his God form, despite it his biology to feed off of the sun, but it's not cheating shit that Goku uses not only God form but U, but here the funny thing what death Battle also forgot to mention and put in is that Superman actually has his own version of UI after he learned Kryptonians Martial arts which appears in comics years before DBS, however they gave that edge to Goku and not Superman, Also they are right Superman have more experience than Goku or any other Superhero as he is the first, and I hate to point this out to all db fans, but Goku was base off of the monkey king and Superman. I mean it pretty much obvious, especially there background. So don't get mad because superman won, and also if you look at it, Goku never even beat Vegeta in a fight
Saiyan saga: vegeta was crushed by Gohan when he was turning back to normal
Namek Saga: Vegeta was killed by frieza so they didn't fought
Android saga: Goku was pretty much out of commission majority of this and Vegeta got owned by 18
Cell Saga: i shouldn't have to explain what happened here.
Buu saga: it was Majin Vegeta who pretty much stop there fight
Dbs superhero: Vegeta won their sparring
So really Goku actual wins are
The victories in dragon ball
Defeating but not killing Frieza
Defeating Kid Buu with the energy of everyone in the universe which is the only time the spirit bomb actually killed someone.
All in all I'm both Dragon balls and Superman fan, and I could point out Superman lost and flaws as well. However, that would take longer and I only pointed out Goku flaws because let say someone didn't like the outcome or the facts. Goku not going to destroy the sun because he want to fight Superman at his full strength, that also why he won't use Kryptonite, and Goku doesn't use magic, he use Ki which it been explained many time that all living beings ( even Superman) have it, and also there was a Comic where Superman learn how to shoot out energy blast, though of course that another edge they gave to Goku and not Superman, and Superman can actually absorb the speed force to make himself even faster in fact there are some comic that flash would admit Superman is faster and some comic it's the other way around, or some it's a tie who is faster, it like this no matter how much they Nerf Superman they still make him more powerful because that what he was meant to be, after all the only Limits Superman has is what he put on himself, Goku was design to know that even though he has limits he push through them, and that's the difference Goku has to train to push through his limits while superman doesn't he only trained in something that he wasn't born with, also Superman doesn't need to eat or drink, he food source is the sun so when i say he feeds off of it, it's the truth, he only eat or drink something for appearance.
What upsets of this battle is the fact they didn’t get goku to use SSJ4 limit breaker from heroes even though it was mention in the preview as one of his forms. Or the fact that he didn’t use universal SSJB, his strongest variation of SSJB. I’m not saying the match was rigged or anything, I’m just upset he didn’t use those forms against Superman considering that they scaled him to his feats in Heroes
@@ALX654Seen enough Death Battles to know by now that just because it wasn't in the animation doesn't mean it wasn't considered.
Agreed I think we should end it with this Goku is that guy who literally gave cell a senzu bean to make the fight fair for him when he faced his son when people say oh cheap shit there just being sore
@@MusashiMotto I've realized this is all bitterness when I thought of it this way: If you take DB's current antagonists, they could've squashed Goku from 10 years ago just as thoroughly and disrespectfully as Superman did. So where's the hate for them? People rarely call them overpowered or broken. If Goku had to fight his own arcs out of order, you'd have a similar outcome. That tells me that they don't hate Superman's power, they hate Goku losing with no victory on the horizon.
@@spiderturtle5292 facts I agree with you it's like my love for a death battle with gut an some blonde dude I don't know his name but I'm a big berserk fan but my boy lost an I was like darn but I'm not going to get salty like these guys an say that's a cheap shot they pulled there not looking at favorites there looking at facts I think people only want to hear what they want not what they need to hear an in truth I do believe death battle is correct they show their faces in public an still spout the truth knowing what others would say or even try to do that takes immense courage
Notice how their whole room is decked out in anime/manga media, nothing western 🤨
People get on screen versions of Superman mixed up with the comic version. If this was LA movie, or cartoon, or video game versions of Superman vs Goku from all the DB animes and mangas then Goku would absolutely destroy him as Superman isn't nearly as strong but Superman at his best in the comics its a completely different country.
yall yappin to much
Agreed
In terms of strength, Omni-Man is Coke Zero Superman. Insane strength and speed, _not quite_ the same durability. Look at what sunlight does to Kryptonians vs Viltrumites.
If you read the story world forger mentions the rest of his multiverse was collapsing. Meaning that superman didn't actually one shot the thing. It was the page when they returned to reality. We also have confirmation from the DCeditor (Andrew Marino) that world forgers multiverse wasn't stable and the only stable world was the future earth so when superman destroyed that everything starting collapsing. Basically outright confirms that Superman interrupted it, and wasn't actually that strong himself. It really depends what kinda feats he has in the comics then, but he might actually lose the strength category, giving Goku the win. Basically what superman did to the multiverse was like me taking out a support for a building. I can bring a building down if I do enough damage to a certain part of it but that doesn't mean I'm building level. Same issue.
The statement that current Superman is a composite of every mainline Superman, is completely false as shown in Doomsday Clock. The Silver Age is NOT canon to the main DC Universe. The main DC Universe is Earth-0, while the Silver Age is Earth-1985. Superman only have memories of the previous lifes, he not is a composite Superman.
Daizenshuu official DBZ guide by Akira Toriyama statements = DBZuniverse is infinite and 100% canon. Death Battle nerf Goku.
They omited the strongest Goku's versions as Jump Force Goku fights against Prometheus (Prometheus is a God beyond tiering system >>>> all Jump Magazine franchises and cosmologies from all anime/manga). God Fusion Goku breaks the 4th wall and fused with *audience >>> author*.
Goku beats Superman, no-diff. And comp Goku beats comp Superman with Milkman and CAS included.
Goku wins. This is debuked.
Well look at what we have here, another case of Dragon Ball fans can't read part 527. But then again, what do I expect from someone who can't even spell "debunked" properly?
Yeah, I wouldn't take an editor's statement as an absolute statement. Especially since both Marvel and DC editors in general have a history of being unreliable (I.E. Tom Brevoort saying Thor's reflexes are only street-tier despite very direct evidence in the comics themselves that this isn't the case). It's fine if what they're saying lines up with what actually happened in the comic, but if it doesn't, then I would say just disregard it. Oh, and let's not forget that the author of that story has clarified that the World Forager feat is as straight-forward as it seems. But ... just because I feel like humoring your B.S. argument, let's just say you disregard Superman shattering the multiverse entirely. Alright. He still knocked the World Forager on his ass and gave him a black eye, I.E. physically damaged him. Y'know, that same World Forager who created hyper time and imprisoned Perpetua when working together with his brothers? The same Perpetua who created the entire DC multiverse? Yeah, that World Forager.
Superman still gets that kind of scaling regardless. LOL
The comics themselves directly reference stuff that happened in the Silver Age, and even if you disregard the idea that Silver Age Superman = Post-Crisis Superman = New 52 Superman = Rebirth Superman = Infinite Frontier Superman, you could just scale Post-Crisis Superman to Silver-Age Superman via him fighting Golden Age Superman, so ... again, a completely mute point to begin with. (Wow, it's almost like people who don't read comics deliberately misinterpret stuff to fit their own agenda. Hmm ... 🤔)
You do realize there are multiple statements literally in the comics themselves that the main DC universe is infinite as well, right? If they gave Super Saiyan God Goku infinite-universe scaling then the same thing would have to be done for Superman. They didn't do that for either because there are in-universe details for both universe 7 and the main comics universe that contradict this. Plus, it's not like it matters anyway, since DB placed both of them at infinite-multiversal+ or whatever. The DC multiverse just ended up being more infinite ... somehow.
Jump Force Goku isn't outerversal. There's literally nothing in the actual game itself that supports that games cosmology to be anywhere near that level. Hell, he doesn't even defeat Prometheus in the main story, so even if Prometheus was outversal, Goku wouldn't be at that level anyway.
Also, are we seriously arguing Goku breaking the 4th wall is some sort of feat of power? Because if so, then Superman has done that multiple times even in more recent comics. I guess Deadpool, Harley Quinn, and Joker all solo all of fiction what how often they've broken the 4th wall.
@@trexrising4097 DC editor >>> You. Nobody denied this. The question is how he did it (stopping WF's last hammer hit). If Superman's punch is multiversal punch (as Death battle version) Batman and his friends... 💀☠ World Forger's durability is featless. Just because the World Forger is capable of creating a multiverse doesn't mean its durability is that strong. Superman's punch is only moon level. This coincides with the scene where Perpetua defeats Alpheus when she threw a planet at him. This is debunked.
I have already explained that they are not the same version. In fact silver-age does not have complex multiversal feats. "flying faster than infinity" is just a hyperbole (universal or universal++) feat.If Superman's speed is infinite then the specter cannot get in front of him since infinite speed cannot get ahead of him. The book with "infinite" pages really makes no mention of its weight, in fact it doesn't even have infinite pages because Superman reads the last page and if it is infinity should not have a last page. Furthermore, the book was already floating in the air. Atlas held the heavens for all eternity and Superman barely could hold it for a day. Superman was one-shoted in the sixth dimension. He doesn't even destroy World Forger. He only managed to knock him down for a few seconds and only hit him in the eye. I wonder what would have happened if the World Forger decided to attack Superman when he got up from the ground. Lucky Superman that WF wasn't so evil. Superman with infinite strength, infinite speed and infinite endurance are hyperbole. Goku's punches would hurt him.
Prometheus is a villain who has the power to see the world as fiction. He was surrounded by the pages of the franchise's manga. Superman against him would only be a comic page around him.The Prometheus cosmology is all franchises and comp cosmologies of Jump Force Magazine company from the year 1960 - 2024. Jump Force Goku is able to develop a genkidama with the power to defeat Prometheus. No other version of Goku can do this. Even the main character absorbs the genkidama and her is able to defeat him. Goku is also able to absorb the genkidama's energy as he did this in the Android 13 movie.
God Fusion Goku breaks the fourth wall and merges with the audience (audience > authors). Correction not only the viewers he fusion with Akira Toriyama himself, when that happens he became his own author, and therefore.. Make himself as strong as he wants with no limits, or consequences…☠
@@type-pro3907look at how many different non cannon forms you need to bring just to BARELY match BASE superman. But let's bring superman's strongest forms, the Thought Robot. Negative diffs every form of Goku, including non cannon, and I'll include fan made forms too.
@@utopias187 Nope, bro. Daizenshuu official canon DBZguide: Other World is stated "Transcend dimensions that cannot be perceived from the Human World". Other World is called the "Next Dimension" and is stated to exist as a completely different level of reality. Both Other World and the Kaioshin Realm act as observing worlds to the Mortal Realm. Koyama (the screenwriter for Dragon Ball) confirms the Kaioshin realm is higher. also... Daizenshuu = "DBZuniverse is infinite" and DBSH (non-canon) have a cosmology unlimited.
Kid Goku has toon force with Arale in Akira Toriyama's manga. Goku DBS canon (early) have universal++multidimensional feat, this Goku uses kaiokenX20 and multiplies this power by twenty. Add tranformations and zenkais...⚰
Next... comp Goku:
Xeno Goku (base) resist Demigra's attack = all multiverses in the timelines
CC Goku UI beats Xeno Goku (SS4) and CC Goku have universal blue with multiverse power.
Jump Force Goku with genkidama's power beats Prometheus (Prometheus is beyond tiering system) >>> all franchises from Jump Magazine company, year 1960-2024.
God Fusion Goku breaks 4th wall and fused with audience (audience >>> author, and beyond fiction).
Cosmic armor Superman is damaged by attack equivalent to 10 billions suns (galaxy >>> 10 billions suns). Mr.Mxy map: Monitor Sphere/Nil is part of the 4D multiverse. Milkman is only parody version and he is beated by Wonder Woman.
Goku canon beats Superman base. 💀
Comp Goku beats comp Superman. ☠
@@type-pro3907 you are too dishonest, and biased to have a real discussion with. You don't know superman and it shows by how much you have to downscale and use numbers instead of FEATS (Goku almost died to a laser pistol,and lost to Beerus, and still loses btw, oh and loses to broly too, superman best true form darkseid lol). Comp superman's means you will be using the concept and idea of hope versus a character with just numbers to hide behind. Search up cosmic armor superman, who can adapt to the opponents every ability instantly, become superior to the oopents stars no matter how much stronger and faster they get, and change the story in order to win.
You can multiply as much as you want it's still a number, superman is infinite, as strong as he wants to be. Infinity> numbers
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This video is totally wrong there are many mistakes in it if you don't believe try to react these video
Death battle Goku vs Superman 1 2 debunked by max pook and
Official divine video goku vs Superman these are two different video watch them you will understand everything.
All those videos got debunked too
I watched that video too. Divine was biased towards Goku and used Heroes Goku to "win" even though not even that is enough. Simply put, Superman's World Forger feat alone is beyond all of Dragon Ball. In short, you are incorrect, Cope.