I mean the only recognizable parts of them are like arms and legs and any difference in that can just be called a weight change. I wouldn't be surprised if Daewang was just the newest members getting prepared to going the group. Like so they they're not nervous they wear the bunny mask on stage to get used to being in front of ppls. With the og bunny girl taking a break *gasp* of if the bunny is a MANAGER
I'm worried about them, with so many member changes, little promotion, you can see that the company is running out of money, it makes me really sad. I was so excited for them, their debut track was fire, production value so good.
I feel bad because I used to follow them but the constant changing in lineup kind of got me uninterested... I know it’s stupid but I can’t get connected to a group of members start leaving...
@@maliablossom7340 The member who left expet heesunall had a good reason and stayed in the agency still doing concert sometimes and posting photo whit he members. It is really easy to see what thez are doing and if they are still into the industry.
@@estelaangeles2346 I dont think they think of being in a kpop group as 'fun', it's more like that's their dream career. They dont think it's a fun little trend or something it's just their passion (sorry for bad english)
People have such a huge problem with member changes, but with PF... most members who leave actually stay in the company, to either take a break or work as models. It isn’t a bad company, they look after the girls. People forget that being an idol is like any other job. Unlike most companies who force them into slave-like contracts that they have to fulfil in 5 or 7 years, MyDoll Ent allows members to leave if it isn’t for them. People forget that unless you’re a big company, the idols aren’t making any money. I’m glad they have the freedom to leave. I just wish people wouldn’t see it as such a huge negative and just purely support them so they can grow.
While I'm glad that they can leave if they want to, as I wouldn't want anyone to stay in a group if it's not what they want to do, it also makes it very hard to support a group. People develop an interest or affinity for certain members, and they might not feel the same for the new members that replace them. The idol industry focuses a lot on fans getting to know the members' personalities and supporting them as people and not just performers. That has its benefits, because it means fans will continue to support their favorite idols through concepts that aren't their taste, hiatus, etc. But it also means that the group's success is tied to the members and not only the songs or the performance quality. Obviously no one should be forced to stay in a group, but it's also not the fans' fault if they lose interest after their favorite members are gone.
@@rinanishikido819 it’s not at all but it’s also a testament to how disloyal fans are and how they’re not really in it for the music or talent. They focus so much on a certain member and it minimises the importance of the others. Which I think is truly sad. Many long term members are still there and work just as hard as before but will go unnoticed because of unforeseen member changes.
@@kylepop4371 I don't think losing interest in a group because the people you liked left is being disloyal or not caring about talent or music. You liked that person, you cared about their talent and the way they performed the songs. Maybe you want to follow them in their future endeavors, or maybe you're just sad that you can't see them anymore. Even if some original members stay, the people you liked and whose talent you were drawn to have been replaced by others who you don't know or might not even like. Accusing people of being disloyal when the person they are loyal to left is unfair. A group is the members that make it up, it's not an entity you should be loyal to no matter who is in it. If anything, a lot of fans are extremely loyal and will follow talented artists in their careers regardless of the group or company they are in, like Wonho, Woodz, Kim Wooseok, Kang Daniel, Chungha, Somi, and the list goes on. Just because the company keeps the name of the group and uses the same songs, it doesn't mean the group is the same, and it doesn't make you disloyal if you stop following it after member changes, which are changes that greatly impact the sound, performance style and group dynamic that you originally liked.
@@rinanishikido819 a group is yes, the members it makes up and like I said in my comment, I believe it’s sad when people give up on the rest of the members when one they like leaves. It doesn’t change how good the music is, that’s all I’m saying. We all have favourites but there’s members of groups who aren’t as “pretty” as some others, who don’t sing as well as them, rap as well as them etc or maybe they are and yet remain unpopular ... and people won’t give them the time or day or energy to get to know them. And like you said, Wonho .. he left the group, so does that mean people have given up on Monsta X? Or are they supporting both? Exactly. But it’s seemingly different when it comes to smaller female girl groups from financially lesser companies.
@@kylepop4371 Some people might not have the means to support both, though. And it probably gets worse in smaller groups because there are fewer fans to begin with, so it's more noticeable if some can't support both the group and the members who left. But I don't think it's okay to generalize and say those people are disloyal or don't care about music or talent, that's all I'm saying. People have limited time, money and energy to invest in idols. So if a group has lost the members they found appealing and inserted others they don't find as appealing, it's natural to drift away. Another thing is that these companies insist on adding members instead of continuing with the original ones. If Starship had added someone in Wonho's place, they would have lost more fans than they did. You might still like the original members still, but if random people you know nothing about suddenly replace the people you used to like, it can be very off-putting.
Fun fact: PinkFantasy would’ve had the biggest age gap in K-Pop if Rai hadn’t left the group. As also stated, Rai was born in 1990 while Heesun was born in 2005. The group would have a 15-year age gap. EDIT: So I made this comment around April just between their ‘Lemon Candy’ era and their ‘Alice in Wonderland’ era. I didn’t get to edit my comment any sooner since my I was busy with some stuff. 😅 However just to keep some of you people up-to-date with PF, Heesun has rejoined the group along with the Japanese MyDoll trainees (except Miyu), while currently the oldest, SeeA, is born in 1993. So PinkFantasy actively still holds the biggest age gap in K-Pop
Honestly, the company section of this video was really wholesome. It does show that even when companies lose members especially by medical or personal reasons it doesn't automatically mean mistreatment but most likely poor management and lack of opportunities. I'm happy that the CEO herself understood the struggles of her idols and worked hard to make it work at their pace. This company deserves more support financially to do better things.
@@Kata_Rin oh the ceo is a she? I love her for taking care of the members really well, but they should really work on their promotions, i never heared of pink fantasy but now i wanna stan them
@@mrklee9348 It is because they aren't famous that they don't have a lot of promotion. But surprisingly they have a a lot more promotion since the corona virus started doing a lot of online concert going on two beauty emission. Stari , infludeo, weliketv and having a sub unit and a group comeback. They did a sub-unit because yechan hurt her anckle.
me too 😔 the fact that they have almost as many subunit releases as full group drops is very worrying. why would they put their money into subunits when they could promote full group? the big appeal of pink fantasy is daewang,, yet they removed the bunny head in lemon candy in favor of a smaller mask ?!? i really hope their company starts promoting them properly because their vocals are too good to lose.
@@tequilatracer1924 Right but the covered face was a huge draw for many fans and losing that mystery could hurt the public or fans interest level in them
well it would be a good exposure for sure. I actually know pink fantasy through dreamcatcher odd eye comeback live performances. while waiting for dreamcatcher perfomance, I saw some of pink fantasy lemon candy perf. and honestly idk what it is but they caught my attention among all other group I don't really know of.
Agreed. I liked their sound but with the constant member line up changes, it would be super helpful if they just create a new group but with the same sound as Pink Fantasy
Hmm I think if they stuck to a single concept when they were within their junior years, it'd help build a fanbase and then they can be like Nature and have different concepts every comeback lol
@@badussywarrior7186 I love how she's like yeah, I'll be way back here, directly behind another girl. I will not be bending my knees at any point during this performance, enjoy. Iconic.
These members aren't random though and we know exactly who will be joining. They are all trainees and are preparing to debut in their own group My Bling. If you follow MyDollEnt these girls have been very active and most Luvits know them well.
@@Emi-qd2xq No, you are also very very wrong. My Bling is a collaboration group with Busters..... The members in that who are also in MyDoll are Harin & Arang (Who are still Pink Fantasy members) and Heesun who kinda is and kinda isn't a member of Pink Fantasy...
im a luvit myself. we are really worried. tho they update quite often in social media and have a lot of freedom on social media (they each have an individual tiktok acc, daewang and yechan have a youtube channel and so does yubeen plus they all have their own insta acc) and they are healthy. like genuinely healthy. they look so happy and are really really sweet.
I was really glad when they announced the concert for overseas fans, and excited for the girls to finally see their fans too. The members were always excited and looking forward to it. However, I need to make some clarification to this. Firstly, the first postponement was due to the local latin promoters having issues with their logistics. With the concert date being so close, yet the promoter not being able to secure proper logistics, it was definitely unavoidable for mydoll to choose to announce an indefinite postponement. It wont be wise for them to send the girls over when a lot of logistics is not thought out proper. No proper concert venue? No proper staff logistics? A lot of gaps in their plans? This wont be good for them when they reach the country. There's a lot more going on and required to bring a kpop group over to an overseas country than just inviting a group over, especially for a long period of time. Therefore the postponement had to take place. However, for some reason, the promoters decided to give possible future dates of event, despite mydoll saying that it is an indefinite postponement until further notice (which possibly mean a full cancellation). Even the members and mydoll do not have specifics of the plan because it seems impossible, yet due to the possible date given by local promoter, fans kept asking them about the Latin Tour and it got very uncomfortable for them since they cant answer. Covid was then also the reason for cancellation of everything too. For info, there was not only supposed to be Latin Tour. There were also Japan Tour, and Taiwan Tour. All were supposed to take place around the same period as Latin Tour (within the same two months). And for history, covid hit at that point too, and Asia was one of the first countries to decide on locking down and travel restrictions. It's a pain for Mydoll to do so, but all their tours were cancelled after the decision of not taking risk at all even though they technically can travel over at that point of time. For the company, members' health and safety is priority. Also unfortunately, the countries they were targeting for the Latin Tour, were some of the hardest hit by Covid too. It was another unavoidable situation. In exchange, they had been doing lots of online concerts and events to compensate all the tours and physical overseas events they had to let go off. Of course, it's not the best, and i know many fans were and are still disappointed by what happened to the Latin Tour and every other tour which everyone was excited about, but that's the least they could do for fans since they know they wont be able to hold physical events for at least over a year due to the situation.
RIGHT i was shocked to hear that too but im pretty sure the birthday thing is going along with the no idenity to keep her real life a secret? it makes since.
The white rabbit in Alice has a watch and disappears in a magic hole. It all makes sense if you think a bit further. And i love how they just added that in a comical way instead of a lot of "-" s.
this the changes made me step back from listening because i was fearful they where gonna be a kind one hit and disband super early on in their careers.
@@baymoo No don't be afraid. Thers is only one member who actually ''left'' the group. All the others are still under the company and even sometimes doing group activity like yubeen ,Aini and Heesun. If you want to keep stanning your bias you can because they all have their own social media!
their 12 o'clock music video isn't as high budget as you think. the different dancing sets of them in front of the village/movie theatre are all part of an indoor children's playground in Korea. It's not an actual set. But yes, the song has better production than their newer song.
@@kclarke421 true, I love the music video actually. I was just clarifying that it's not a high budget music video, but yes, it's really fun to watch!!! (:
CEO Lee Sohee is really close with the members especially Harin, who she said was like a daughter to her on a post for her birthday on Instagram! I don't think she would disband the group unless she absolutely had to - and they make most of their money via online fanmeets and selling products on their website. I also think they're planning on adding the guest members to the permanent lineup of Pinkfantasy but that's just my opinion!
I didn't even know this group existed, and is weird, because they debuted at a time I still checked regularly the new debuts. For what you explain about their company, MYDoll, it looks like this type of company has it almost impossible to survive in a market like K-Pop that still has yet to expand enough to provide a sustainable scene for niche markets within' the idol mainstream market. It looks like this company could do better in the Japanese scene, pre-covid, where there are different niche markets for idols and where indie companies launch projects similar as Pink Fantasy and the philosophy the CEO operates the whole thing. She sounds too avantgard and risky for a market like K-Pop that has expanded enough for a decade but where there's still little room for small companies to breakthrough and the appearence on general media is trully important as well as growing your fanbase.
I wish they played with the concept a little more... I feel like playing into Daewang's story/facts I guess (14:08-14:26) could make for a very interesting storyline connecting subunits, comebacks, and songs. Groups who do lore tend to build a dedicated following, which would be helpful to a small group like them.
PINK FANTASY IS GONNA HAVE A COMEBACK, SUPPORT THEM PLEASE! DON'T JUST USE THEM FOR YOUR THEORIES. (directed to anyone who only uses them for their theories and doesn't care about the music)
I stanned pink fantasy since debut so it was really hard growing with them, members leaving, slow comebacks, member changes in comebacks and the constant fear of members leaving/disbandment. In the end I ended up unstanning because I was becoming extremely stressed due to personal struggles so it was hard having to juggle those along with pinkfantasy, which was basically collectively standing on the edge of a cliff. I did forget about them after unstanning, but I’m so glad this video came into my recommended after a long few months without them. I’m in a better place now and it sucks to hear they’re still struggling. I’m just glad to be a luvit again.
This video could have been right before corona, but since corona virus th group is making much better and doing a lot of activities. The members are looking so happy !!!
I have some more info too! MDD was something that Yechan and Yubeen came up with on their own and the company worked with them to make it happen. Yubeen's time on Idol School was really traumatising for her and a lot of the other participants so I definitely blame that experience for impacting her mental health. Heesun broke her contract by making an Instagram account which is also part of why she left the group. Mybling was just a project group to give fans content between Pinkfantasy's comeback and Busters' redebut- they're not a separate group nor will they debut properly, the two companies are just close because Arang, Harin & Heesun trained at the same company as Busters members. Also with Daewang's identity - some luvits know the secret but we can't tell!! Please trust us when we say she's fine. The mask was her idea to help them stand out as a group! Also, Seea's name is pronounced like "Sheea" just for reference 💖
MyDoll is clearly talented and has a good vision. They just don't have the marketing power to get their music out to enough people. I hope they can be discovered with their comeback this Monday.
so, lemon candy isn't an official comeback, it's more of a pre-release so that's why mydoll didn't put that much budget into the mv. hope this clears it up :))
You've done it again! I literally only know Iriwa but I am definitely now going to check out Shadow Play sub unit. It's nice that the CEO let's them leave and come back. They should just announce that as their concept at this point. I want a bunny mask now. Thank you!
Maybe daewang is like a way to test new girls to see if they can fit in the group ( so they wear the mask and nobody will know) and if they pass the test they enter in the group as a "new member". Or maybe im just thinking too much (sorry for the bad English).
It really seems to me in general any human trying to be an idol can’t handle the harsh environment and the CEO of MyDoll is the only CEO that doesn’t force her idols to be overworked. Either that or the CEO is being too protective and forces a member out of the group rather than letting the member prove they can handle it. Of course, we don’t know what goes on behind the scenes, we can just admire that the CEO cares at all. Support MyDoll!
I really thought having a CEO that was a former idol would be good thing for them but I think the consistent changes has really not helped. I love PF but I am concerned for them!
I’m honestly thinking of stanning them now lol I’ve never heard of them before this but I just checked out their songs and I love them. I don’t have any problems with getting attached to members I’ll just never pay attention to that and stream their songs. Pink fantasy hwaiting!
They have so much going for them. Amazing songs, a cool concept, a caring CEO and some connections to SM Entertainment. But with all the inconsistencies they are sabotaging their own success.
I hope this doesnt end up like rania did, blackswan is looking great, but i hope that these girls don't have to go through the same insane about of changes that the previous rania members did
i honestly want these girls to have their first win all of the girl’s vocals and concept are usually not like others like “horror concept then girl crush.” the company is losing money i hope that the girls comeback thats on the 21st gets a first win
Actually the reason I started stanning PinkFantasy, was because all of the members were already familiar to me, I LOVE when Idols redebut. So PinkFantasy was perfect for me! And then they also posted that short documentary about how the CEO found all the members and they just stole my heart and never gave it back
someone should make a kpop group like the jabbawockees. they always wear masks and no one knows who they are. however kpop fans are obsessed with visuals so it probably wouldn't work out
Something in me tells me that Daewang has been a different girl because a lot of clips, her arms and fingers look different from before. More tan, longer fingers. Paler but more shorter hands. Idk, maybe Im just jumping on this but I feel like she's never gonna take off her mask because it's always a different girl.
adding Daewang is really innovative. They just have to be promoted properly. my 5 year old daughter really loves their 1st single "Iriwa" even though it was release 2 yrs ago. If i had known them earlier, i could have supported all of their comebacks religiously. If they can put Pink Fantasy to more audiences (not just in Korea) their fanbase will grow in just short period of time. Tbh if they release Merch , especially a Daewang Plushie, I will buy not just for me but for my 5 yr old. She now has a pic of Daewang as a wallpaper to her ipad. Pls Mydoll Entertainment, dont disband them soon 🙏🙏🙏
It doesn’t pass on me that Daehwan, one the tallest and largest of the girls has on a mask. Going by how girl groups are judged by the public for their appearances and sizes, I find that very suspect cause when being compared to the others, usually any members neitizens find “fat” or “larger” often are not & get mistreated in styling so I have to question the true motivations behind why they gave Dae that bunny head other than for a “concept” or gaining attention for the group. This is just an observation based on the patterns I’ve seen from other groups. Correct me if I spelled their name wrong
I definitely thought the company did it because she could be considered the "visual hole" and I sincerely hope having er face covered hasn't damaged her self esteem.
Actually, Daewang isnt the tallest or largest of the girls. Her actual height is actually on the average side of the other members. She is only 'Tallest' due to them making her height '200cm from bottom to the tip of her ears'. XD It wasnt to cover up and of her flaws, and believe it, it's not because she's a visual hole either 🤭
my bias after their debut is arang, daewang, aini and yubeen....and now it's just arang and daewang....happy that their original maknae is back with em + with 2 new japanese member that is miku and momoka :)
I thought, based on what the members had said, that Lemon Candy is not entirely a comeback but rather a B-Side that's gonna be featured in the next comeback that they are having. They said that at first it was just gonna get released as a gift for the fans waiting for the comeback but they ended up promoting it and making a video for it, hence the quality of the MV being "worse" than other MVS previously released as it was filmed a bit rushed.
It basically is just a pre release, but when I was talking about the production I just wanted to mention it since a lot of people had an issue with the mv. Which i don't really get cause I don't care about mv's that much but some people do
Thank you for pointing this out. Just like you said, as mentioned by Daewang in her personal posts, Lemon Candy firstly was not supposed to be their comeback, but a pre-release. And they were not supposed to have any MV or promotion for it at all. However, since fans are anticipating on this release after a long while, Daewang decided to take videos too during their concept photoshoot at the set, and make it into an MV. The main plan was just to do a photoshoot and use some clips as possible teaser or small promo clip, but Daewang then decide to push it further by trying to make it turn into an MV at least, for the fans. Though it is unfortunate that people compare this with their other MV productions and speculate that they are running out of funds (which has been debunked further to be false too).
Maybe the reason they change members was because the "CEO" puts anyone on the group who wants to continue or pursue their career and give them second change to pursue their passion but, anyways that's what I thought
i love the concept of the hidden member with a mask, it gives a unique quirky vibe to the concept group i mean imaging having a member that can control the others?????????? WITH A RABBIT MASK??? ITS SO COOL
It sorda reminds me of nct there's so many members and units, it wouild be so cool if they took on that concept. Then again its probably expensive as heck. I love the ceo's ideas its so sweet.
momoka and miku are new permanent additions to the group, and heesun is now permanently back! momoka looks like a really good dancer and miku has amazing visuals and stage presence, i am anticipating the comeback!
9:45 i think the reason that their first music videos weren't as professional looking is because Shindong from Super Junior directed them. I think Shindong is great, but they probably couldn't afford an experienced mv director, and they figured that having Shindong direct the video might generate some publicity (which it did). And they've acknowledged that Lemon Candy is a very low budget mv, they just wanted to put out a song so that fans wouldn't be worried + the hiatus wouldn't be too long.
I think the problem was not the MV concept, direction or produccion, it was pretty good for a small company. The problem was the horrible clothes and basic choreography. In fact, on their music shows performances the main critic was the white shirt and shorts, because looks really cheap (sorry for my bad English).
They really should stick to their iriwa and fantasy concept. I can think of like 5 groups already doing something like playing house and lemon candy. Their choreography, song, and concept for iriwa was perfect minus the group all wearing those baby diaper looking bunny costumes. Next get attention from Malaysian, Thai, and Indonesian fans. They love being mentioned by idols and support idols who mention them. For example release a Thai cover song. Next get suju fans attention with suju covers possibly featuring some suju members. Then release latin American covers. Suju has a huge latin American following who are extremely loyal. And don't forget suju use to have a rock dark concept too.. Then once returning to their dark concept push them and their new members in Japan. They already started and Japanese fans seem to enjoy them and their uniqueness. All in all their best route is international fans not Korean general public because if their concept and daewang. I'd also reccomend them covering dreamcatcher since some insomnia (not all, some are insomnia and luvits) seem offended by their similar concept and this might be a way to make a bridge and get more fans. Then get a makestar if possible. That would be huge for them. Finally try and get yechan on a singing show. She has goddess like voice. Or get one of the more 4d chaotic excitable members on a variety show. Keep up the amazing covers and release another song like Iriwa or like Rainbows Black Swan or Natures Girls even. Fantasy was a bit to similar to dreamcatcher and made a small amount of insomnia angry. Keep the awesome choreo. Push for outfits like that are dark and unique. Possibly like some dark concept jpop idols wear. I could go on and on about this but there's my main opinion if what they should be aiming for. Please everyone check them out.l! Iriwa is incredible and so is Fantasy. Listen to Yechans covers and enjoy shadow play and 12 o clocks amazing performances. Also watch and listen to daewang with fans she's hilarious
Honestly, I LOVE and I do mean LOVE their darker concepts! It's different then all the "bubble gum" pop you hear from kpop and the daily, but ARGH! I love the darker stuff I think it suits them well and gives them an edge. Now, will that actually give them success if they stay darker...that is the question haha
Another solid content!! I've been interested in this group since Iriwa. And all of these are new knowledge for me. Damnn the line up changes is a long talk. Thank u for this
i feel like daewang about info could allude to the identity. like teleporting because they can be in two places at once because no one know who they are. the “controlling other group members” could mean they are in a place of power relative to the other group members. same with “the king” title. i like the theory of her being a ceo. if she was a former idol she could want that again without the criticism. she could cater to pink fantasy’s mental health because bing in the group she would experience how they are first hand
There group is proof of how hard it is being a kpop idol and trying to make it in the kpop industry.... They should really receive a lot more recognition
I came across them through the new comeback Poison (a bop btw) and their discography is awesome for such a small group. I'll definitely be supporting them 💜 PINK FANTASY FIGHTING
i was waiting for this video since i saw the busters one. GEEZ IM WORRIED AF TOO THEY'RE MY ULTS. They had planned a tour thru Latin America, but even before the whole quarantine thing started they canceled the tours. it worried me because they announced new dates but canceling them again... until the totally canceled the tour. it freaked me up not because I got the most expensive tickets but because aini left and then yubeen i am currently extra worried.
Oh my gosh I've never seen Piggy Dolls mentioned anywhere, I liked them so much but then they just disappeared - their MVs were even deleted off youtube. I didn't know SeeA was in PinkFantasy!! Thank you for this info
The songs of Pink Fantasy are awesome, I just hope they can become stable and reach the top at some point, thankfully nowadays there are a lot of ways to promote the group by themselves, I hope that Mydoll Ent can support them as much as they need to success
Thank you for this video, I love your Worried series. I really hope Pinkfantasy does well because they have such talented members. I'm recently growing worried for Fanatics and more specifically the Sika situation. We haven't seen her since December after the mistreatment scandal 😔
I think a big thing with Heesun too was her age. She was born in 05, at debut the oldest member was Aini at 91. Thats a crazy age gap. It was good for Heesun to leave I think. But the other member changes has me dizzy and sad :( I miss their Fantasy sound
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The one who wears the mask is smart asf. She’s living a double life. So she still gets a private life
No, she's hells creepy
is the ceo XD
@@kyrak.4143 Lol creepy how? She's my favorite member
@@kyrak.4143 but it’s unique
@@kyrak.4143 But it's unique-
I really wonder if “Daewang” has been the same girl the whole time or if she’s also changed multiple times
i've thought about that myself!
I mean the only recognizable parts of them are like arms and legs and any difference in that can just be called a weight change. I wouldn't be surprised if Daewang was just the newest members getting prepared to going the group. Like so they they're not nervous they wear the bunny mask on stage to get used to being in front of ppls. With the og bunny girl taking a break *gasp* of if the bunny is a MANAGER
Plot twist, she's actually the CEO...JK
@@deobihurshey7840 listen she was giving me grand madame!!!!! Thatd be one of the most iconic plot twists in kpop history lmao
@@schmoneysworld3790 😂😂😂 I hope she’ll take off her mask sometime
Plot twist daewang is actually a princess that's why she needs to hide her identity for her safety
that’s some princess protection program stuff 😲
@@jihoonscarat Omg I loved that movie as a child lol
@Yuki San...I mean I would want to wear a mask if I was in a group...mostly because I’m ugly tho
@@jihoonscarat 😲😲
@@cluelesslife5069 what the movie name????
I'm worried about them, with so many member changes, little promotion, you can see that the company is running out of money, it makes me really sad. I was so excited for them, their debut track was fire, production value so good.
yeah
Yeah their probably not that used to each other if u get what I mean
I feel bad because I used to follow them but the constant changing in lineup kind of got me uninterested... I know it’s stupid but I can’t get connected to a group of members start leaving...
ikr :(
@@maliablossom7340 The member who left expet heesunall had a good reason and stayed in the agency still doing concert sometimes and posting photo whit he members. It is really easy to see what thez are doing and if they are still into the industry.
it's sad that those groups members have to do with depression, anxiety ,etc , i hope they are fine now
it hurts me that heesun was *14* when she left the group due to depression and anxiety. she's just so young :(
@@whimshicott she was a kid , poor thing
@@elmin82 solo artists are better and i dont get why teenagers think being a kpop group is fun
@@estelaangeles2346 infact it's not fun
@@estelaangeles2346 I dont think they think of being in a kpop group as 'fun', it's more like that's their dream career. They dont think it's a fun little trend or something it's just their passion (sorry for bad english)
People have such a huge problem with member changes, but with PF... most members who leave actually stay in the company, to either take a break or work as models. It isn’t a bad company, they look after the girls.
People forget that being an idol is like any other job. Unlike most companies who force them into slave-like contracts that they have to fulfil in 5 or 7 years, MyDoll Ent allows members to leave if it isn’t for them. People forget that unless you’re a big company, the idols aren’t making any money. I’m glad they have the freedom to leave.
I just wish people wouldn’t see it as such a huge negative and just purely support them so they can grow.
While I'm glad that they can leave if they want to, as I wouldn't want anyone to stay in a group if it's not what they want to do, it also makes it very hard to support a group. People develop an interest or affinity for certain members, and they might not feel the same for the new members that replace them. The idol industry focuses a lot on fans getting to know the members' personalities and supporting them as people and not just performers. That has its benefits, because it means fans will continue to support their favorite idols through concepts that aren't their taste, hiatus, etc. But it also means that the group's success is tied to the members and not only the songs or the performance quality. Obviously no one should be forced to stay in a group, but it's also not the fans' fault if they lose interest after their favorite members are gone.
@@rinanishikido819 it’s not at all but it’s also a testament to how disloyal fans are and how they’re not really in it for the music or talent. They focus so much on a certain member and it minimises the importance of the others. Which I think is truly sad.
Many long term members are still there and work just as hard as before but will go unnoticed because of unforeseen member changes.
@@kylepop4371 I don't think losing interest in a group because the people you liked left is being disloyal or not caring about talent or music. You liked that person, you cared about their talent and the way they performed the songs. Maybe you want to follow them in their future endeavors, or maybe you're just sad that you can't see them anymore. Even if some original members stay, the people you liked and whose talent you were drawn to have been replaced by others who you don't know or might not even like. Accusing people of being disloyal when the person they are loyal to left is unfair. A group is the members that make it up, it's not an entity you should be loyal to no matter who is in it. If anything, a lot of fans are extremely loyal and will follow talented artists in their careers regardless of the group or company they are in, like Wonho, Woodz, Kim Wooseok, Kang Daniel, Chungha, Somi, and the list goes on. Just because the company keeps the name of the group and uses the same songs, it doesn't mean the group is the same, and it doesn't make you disloyal if you stop following it after member changes, which are changes that greatly impact the sound, performance style and group dynamic that you originally liked.
@@rinanishikido819 a group is yes, the members it makes up and like I said in my comment, I believe it’s sad when people give up on the rest of the members when one they like leaves.
It doesn’t change how good the music is, that’s all I’m saying. We all have favourites but there’s members of groups who aren’t as “pretty” as some others, who don’t sing as well as them, rap as well as them etc or maybe they are and yet remain unpopular ... and people won’t give them the time or day or energy to get to know them.
And like you said, Wonho .. he left the group, so does that mean people have given up on Monsta X? Or are they supporting both? Exactly. But it’s seemingly different when it comes to smaller female girl groups from financially lesser companies.
@@kylepop4371 Some people might not have the means to support both, though. And it probably gets worse in smaller groups because there are fewer fans to begin with, so it's more noticeable if some can't support both the group and the members who left. But I don't think it's okay to generalize and say those people are disloyal or don't care about music or talent, that's all I'm saying. People have limited time, money and energy to invest in idols. So if a group has lost the members they found appealing and inserted others they don't find as appealing, it's natural to drift away.
Another thing is that these companies insist on adding members instead of continuing with the original ones. If Starship had added someone in Wonho's place, they would have lost more fans than they did. You might still like the original members still, but if random people you know nothing about suddenly replace the people you used to like, it can be very off-putting.
I always figured that the whole Daewang mask removal story was a joke cause it always seemed a little too out there when I first heard it
Damn I thought I was the only person on the planet who knew that Pink Fantasy exists 😭
Same, obsessed with all their music and their covers
really.. there's quite a few Insomnia who know and follow Pink Fantasy.
Same 😔
Same 😭😭
Same I love them😭😭
Fun fact: PinkFantasy would’ve had the biggest age gap in K-Pop if Rai hadn’t left the group. As also stated, Rai was born in 1990 while Heesun was born in 2005. The group would have a 15-year age gap.
EDIT: So I made this comment around April just between their ‘Lemon Candy’ era and their ‘Alice in Wonderland’ era. I didn’t get to edit my comment any sooner since my I was busy with some stuff. 😅 However just to keep some of you people up-to-date with PF, Heesun has rejoined the group along with the Japanese MyDoll trainees (except Miyu), while currently the oldest, SeeA, is born in 1993. So PinkFantasy actively still holds the biggest age gap in K-Pop
if I'm right, Aini is born in 1989 so if she remained active, it would've been a 16 year age gap - I was mistaken, it's 1991 sorry my guys 🤡
@@aboutIove Aini was born on 1991, actually.
@@thebIacktortoise aaah I was trying to find my comment to edit it as I realized that too ! thank you and I'm sorry for confusing things :"D
wait, whats the biggest age gap in kpop?
@@thebIacktortoise ohh okay! thank you :) wouldnt pink fantasy have had the biggest age gap before aini left though?
Honestly, the company section of this video was really wholesome. It does show that even when companies lose members especially by medical or personal reasons it doesn't automatically mean mistreatment but most likely poor management and lack of opportunities. I'm happy that the CEO herself understood the struggles of her idols and worked hard to make it work at their pace. This company deserves more support financially to do better things.
i feel bad now i’ve been hating on this company but the ceo seems so sweet
i agree. she really has been trying.
@@Kata_Rin oh the ceo is a she? I love her for taking care of the members really well, but they should really work on their promotions, i never heared of pink fantasy but now i wanna stan them
@@mrklee9348 did you watch the complete video?
@@mrklee9348 It is because they aren't famous that they don't have a lot of promotion. But surprisingly they have a a lot more promotion since the corona virus started doing a lot of online concert going on two beauty emission. Stari , infludeo, weliketv and having a sub unit and a group comeback. They did a sub-unit because yechan hurt her anckle.
@@mrklee9348 Yeah, but the poor CEO probs doesnt have lots of money for continuous promotions :(
i really like the intention of their CEO. I can tell just base on the way Pink fantasy was dressed when perform.
me too 😔 the fact that they have almost as many subunit releases as full group drops is very worrying. why would they put their money into subunits when they could promote full group? the big appeal of pink fantasy is daewang,, yet they removed the bunny head in lemon candy in favor of a smaller mask ?!? i really hope their company starts promoting them properly because their vocals are too good to lose.
they removed the bunny head, so she can dance better as far as I heard
@@tequilatracer1924 Right but the covered face was a huge draw for many fans and losing that mystery could hurt the public or fans interest level in them
I want a Pink Fantasy and Dreamcatcher perf. collab.
well it would be a good exposure for sure. I actually know pink fantasy through dreamcatcher odd eye comeback live performances. while waiting for dreamcatcher perfomance, I saw some of pink fantasy lemon candy perf. and honestly idk what it is but they caught my attention among all other group I don't really know of.
yessss
I think they should re-debut under a new name and concept. The group is too confusing now and is completely different from when they debuted.
This. It worked amazingly for Dreamcatcher
@@GyeongmiBaeb yes
Agreed. I liked their sound but with the constant member line up changes, it would be super helpful if they just create a new group but with the same sound as Pink Fantasy
Yes i'd love it if they pulled a dreamcatcher
Hmm I think if they stuck to a single concept when they were within their junior years, it'd help build a fanbase and then they can be like Nature and have different concepts every comeback lol
So... that's definitely the CEO in that mask, right?
it's a theory for sure
@@jihoonscarat Wild. I love it.
@@trillian777 litteraly I was about to comment this.. I feel like it is definitely the ceo
@@badussywarrior7186 I love how she's like yeah, I'll be way back here, directly behind another girl. I will not be bending my knees at any point during this performance, enjoy. Iconic.
Wow I guess the CEO really wanted to be an idol at the same time
“They would be adding guest members”
Hmmmm reminds me of Rania..how they added random people because members kept leaving
These members aren't random though and we know exactly who will be joining. They are all trainees and are preparing to debut in their own group My Bling. If you follow MyDollEnt these girls have been very active and most Luvits know them well.
the difference here is pink fantasy's company treats their idols really well, but rania's company was... do i even need to say it lol
@@Emi-qd2xq No, you are also very very wrong. My Bling is a collaboration group with Busters..... The members in that who are also in MyDoll are Harin & Arang (Who are still Pink Fantasy members) and Heesun who kinda is and kinda isn't a member of Pink Fantasy...
I was thinking that too!
Rania's company is literally horrible....but their songs are such bops (Style, Just Go, Dr. Feel Good, Demonstrate,Pop Pop, etc.)
The Fantasy comeback was absolutely solid
I feel like Daewang ain't even the same person all the time.
That's all I think about.
Yah
I was about to go to sleep, but guess this is more important.
Haha same it’s 2 am😭
@@n.5516 Lmao you should probably go sleep.
@@icantthinkofaname26 ikr-
same 😃
Same 😔 3 am rn...
im a luvit myself. we are really worried. tho they update quite often in social media and have a lot of freedom on social media (they each have an individual tiktok acc, daewang and yechan have a youtube channel and so does yubeen plus they all have their own insta acc) and they are healthy. like genuinely healthy. they look so happy and are really really sweet.
what’s their personal yt?
all of the girls social media are in the description of my video!
I was really glad when they announced the concert for overseas fans, and excited for the girls to finally see their fans too. The members were always excited and looking forward to it. However, I need to make some clarification to this.
Firstly, the first postponement was due to the local latin promoters having issues with their logistics. With the concert date being so close, yet the promoter not being able to secure proper logistics, it was definitely unavoidable for mydoll to choose to announce an indefinite postponement. It wont be wise for them to send the girls over when a lot of logistics is not thought out proper. No proper concert venue? No proper staff logistics? A lot of gaps in their plans? This wont be good for them when they reach the country. There's a lot more going on and required to bring a kpop group over to an overseas country than just inviting a group over, especially for a long period of time. Therefore the postponement had to take place.
However, for some reason, the promoters decided to give possible future dates of event, despite mydoll saying that it is an indefinite postponement until further notice (which possibly mean a full cancellation). Even the members and mydoll do not have specifics of the plan because it seems impossible, yet due to the possible date given by local promoter, fans kept asking them about the Latin Tour and it got very uncomfortable for them since they cant answer.
Covid was then also the reason for cancellation of everything too. For info, there was not only supposed to be Latin Tour. There were also Japan Tour, and Taiwan Tour. All were supposed to take place around the same period as Latin Tour (within the same two months). And for history, covid hit at that point too, and Asia was one of the first countries to decide on locking down and travel restrictions. It's a pain for Mydoll to do so, but all their tours were cancelled after the decision of not taking risk at all even though they technically can travel over at that point of time. For the company, members' health and safety is priority. Also unfortunately, the countries they were targeting for the Latin Tour, were some of the hardest hit by Covid too. It was another unavoidable situation.
In exchange, they had been doing lots of online concerts and events to compensate all the tours and physical overseas events they had to let go off. Of course, it's not the best, and i know many fans were and are still disappointed by what happened to the Latin Tour and every other tour which everyone was excited about, but that's the least they could do for fans since they know they wont be able to hold physical events for at least over a year due to the situation.
why did the shadow unit receive hate?
@@jimin-with-luv1306 a scene-
Her birthday is in December of 2189 and she can teleport and control her members- what
👁👄👁
RIGHT i was shocked to hear that too but im pretty sure the birthday thing is going along with the no idenity to keep her real life a secret? it makes since.
The white rabbit in Alice has a watch and disappears in a magic hole. It all makes sense if you think a bit further. And i love how they just added that in a comical way instead of a lot of "-" s.
@@baymoo it was hearing the height for me 💀
Someone said she doesn't use her actual voice is that true please?
@@ELmayberry whats their height lmao-
They have bops tho but keeping up with all the changes it's kind of confusing (at least for me)... maybe that is why i never really got into them
this the changes made me step back from listening because i was fearful they where gonna be a kind one hit and disband super early on in their careers.
@@baymoo No don't be afraid. Thers is only one member who actually ''left'' the group. All the others are still under the company and even sometimes doing group activity like yubeen ,Aini and Heesun. If you want to keep stanning your bias you can because they all have their own social media!
Same! I really wanted to follow them as much as the other ggs i stan but i got too confused and gave up. STILL LISTENING TO ALL THEIR BOPS SONGS THO!
Their 12 o'clock song has higher production than the full group MV... I love the song and sub unit but why?
good question
their 12 o'clock music video isn't as high budget as you think. the different dancing sets of them in front of the village/movie theatre are all part of an indoor children's playground in Korea. It's not an actual set. But yes, the song has better production than their newer song.
@@pinklemonaze9982 it's creative tho💀💀
@@kclarke421 true, I love the music video actually. I was just clarifying that it's not a high budget music video, but yes, it's really fun to watch!!! (:
CEO Lee Sohee is really close with the members especially Harin, who she said was like a daughter to her on a post for her birthday on Instagram! I don't think she would disband the group unless she absolutely had to - and they make most of their money via online fanmeets and selling products on their website. I also think they're planning on adding the guest members to the permanent lineup of Pinkfantasy but that's just my opinion!
I think same way as you, and i think it is Best for them to add miku miu and momoka
@@luka662 Miu left MyDoll as far as I know, though...
I think its best to add the new members permanently too because of the opportunity in Japan especially with their unique concept
They are having comeback in 21th !
I want everyone to watch poison right now
I'm honestly so worried about them too..especially with the many lineup changes it gets confusing for new fans
I didn't even know this group existed, and is weird, because they debuted at a time I still checked regularly the new debuts. For what you explain about their company, MYDoll, it looks like this type of company has it almost impossible to survive in a market like K-Pop that still has yet to expand enough to provide a sustainable scene for niche markets within' the idol mainstream market. It looks like this company could do better in the Japanese scene, pre-covid, where there are different niche markets for idols and where indie companies launch projects similar as Pink Fantasy and the philosophy the CEO operates the whole thing. She sounds too avantgard and risky for a market like K-Pop that has expanded enough for a decade but where there's still little room for small companies to breakthrough and the appearence on general media is trully important as well as growing your fanbase.
I wish they played with the concept a little more... I feel like playing into Daewang's story/facts I guess (14:08-14:26) could make for a very interesting storyline connecting subunits, comebacks, and songs. Groups who do lore tend to build a dedicated following, which would be helpful to a small group like them.
PINK FANTASY IS GONNA HAVE A COMEBACK, SUPPORT THEM PLEASE! DON'T JUST USE THEM FOR YOUR THEORIES. (directed to anyone who only uses them for their theories and doesn't care about the music)
IM SO EXCITED 🥺🥺
@@jihoonscarat ME TOO 😭😭
I stanned pink fantasy since debut so it was really hard growing with them, members leaving, slow comebacks, member changes in comebacks and the constant fear of members leaving/disbandment. In the end I ended up unstanning because I was becoming extremely stressed due to personal struggles so it was hard having to juggle those along with pinkfantasy, which was basically collectively standing on the edge of a cliff. I did forget about them after unstanning, but I’m so glad this video came into my recommended after a long few months without them. I’m in a better place now and it sucks to hear they’re still struggling. I’m just glad to be a luvit again.
This video could have been right before corona, but since corona virus th group is making much better and doing a lot of activities. The members are looking so happy !!!
moral of the story: take care of your mental health
I have some more info too! MDD was something that Yechan and Yubeen came up with on their own and the company worked with them to make it happen. Yubeen's time on Idol School was really traumatising for her and a lot of the other participants so I definitely blame that experience for impacting her mental health. Heesun broke her contract by making an Instagram account which is also part of why she left the group. Mybling was just a project group to give fans content between Pinkfantasy's comeback and Busters' redebut- they're not a separate group nor will they debut properly, the two companies are just close because Arang, Harin & Heesun trained at the same company as Busters members. Also with Daewang's identity - some luvits know the secret but we can't tell!! Please trust us when we say she's fine. The mask was her idea to help them stand out as a group! Also, Seea's name is pronounced like "Sheea" just for reference 💖
Nice. Honestly it’s uncommon to find ppl with proper info, but you definitely nailed them. Good job. You’ve really done your research well. 👍🏻
Hi! Do you know anything about Sanga past her leaving? I haven’t heard anything since she left & she was my bias :(
@@juliaphillippi8408 she was my bias too
MyDoll is clearly talented and has a good vision. They just don't have the marketing power to get their music out to enough people. I hope they can be discovered with their comeback this Monday.
they've just made a comeback with Poison , please support them
so, lemon candy isn't an official comeback, it's more of a pre-release so that's why mydoll didn't put that much budget into the mv. hope this clears it up :))
Lemon candy is a bside and the members recorded the MV (Especificaly daewang) how a gift to their fans because of the inactivitie of the group
What if the ceo is daewang because and i quotes "controlling their members"
thats an interesting point
You've done it again! I literally only know Iriwa but I am definitely now going to check out Shadow Play sub unit. It's nice that the CEO let's them leave and come back. They should just announce that as their concept at this point.
I want a bunny mask now.
Thank you!
im so glad i've peaked your interest!
omg, i've been waiting for this i love pink fantasy so much and im so worried for them- im excited for this video!!
Maybe daewang is like a way to test new girls to see if they can fit in the group ( so they wear the mask and nobody will know) and if they pass the test they enter in the group as a "new member". Or maybe im just thinking too much (sorry for the bad English).
It really seems to me in general any human trying to be an idol can’t handle the harsh environment and the CEO of MyDoll is the only CEO that doesn’t force her idols to be overworked. Either that or the CEO is being too protective and forces a member out of the group rather than letting the member prove they can handle it. Of course, we don’t know what goes on behind the scenes, we can just admire that the CEO cares at all. Support MyDoll!
I really thought having a CEO that was a former idol would be good thing for them but I think the consistent changes has really not helped.
I love PF but I am concerned for them!
I’m honestly thinking of stanning them now lol I’ve never heard of them before this but I just checked out their songs and I love them. I don’t have any problems with getting attached to members I’ll just never pay attention to that and stream their songs. Pink fantasy hwaiting!
I highly recommend! They are all pretty active on social media, they are all such fun girls, super talented and just a great group
They have so much going for them. Amazing songs, a cool concept, a caring CEO and some connections to SM Entertainment. But with all the inconsistencies they are sabotaging their own success.
I hope this doesnt end up like rania did, blackswan is looking great, but i hope that these girls don't have to go through the same insane about of changes that the previous rania members did
i honestly want these girls to have their first win all of the girl’s vocals and concept are usually not like others like “horror concept then girl crush.” the company is losing money i hope that the girls comeback thats on the 21st gets a first win
Actually the reason I started stanning PinkFantasy, was because all of the members were already familiar to me, I LOVE when Idols redebut. So PinkFantasy was perfect for me!
And then they also posted that short documentary about how the CEO found all the members and they just stole my heart and never gave it back
someone should make a kpop group like the jabbawockees. they always wear masks and no one knows who they are. however kpop fans are obsessed with visuals so it probably wouldn't work out
Look at REDSQUARE. A banger song, but they flopped.
Something in me tells me that Daewang has been a different girl because a lot of clips, her arms and fingers look different from before. More tan, longer fingers. Paler but more shorter hands. Idk, maybe Im just jumping on this but I feel like she's never gonna take off her mask because it's always a different girl.
this bunny mask give me hella anxiety..i don't think i can sleep now D:
omg really? i never found it creepy, maybe in their fantasy era but i see what you mean. im sorry hahha
I'm just sad that they didn't get the full group promotion they deserved... They could be very big by now.
the ceo seems sweet but they whole company needs to get it together........ i feel like it’s gonna be pf’s downfall :( (hopefully i’m wrong)
I can tell i'm already gonna love this video
adding Daewang is really innovative. They just have to be promoted properly. my 5 year old daughter really loves their 1st single "Iriwa" even though it was release 2 yrs ago. If i had known them earlier, i could have supported all of their comebacks religiously. If they can put Pink Fantasy to more audiences (not just in Korea) their fanbase will grow in just short period of time. Tbh if they release Merch , especially a Daewang Plushie, I will buy not just for me but for my 5 yr old. She now has a pic of Daewang as a wallpaper to her ipad. Pls Mydoll Entertainment, dont disband them soon 🙏🙏🙏
I just came from their comeback and I'm so happy they managed to release Poison, it's a very good one
It doesn’t pass on me that Daehwan, one the tallest and largest of the girls has on a mask. Going by how girl groups are judged by the public for their appearances and sizes, I find that very suspect cause when being compared to the others, usually any members neitizens find “fat” or “larger” often are not & get mistreated in styling so I have to question the true motivations behind why they gave Dae that bunny head other than for a “concept” or gaining attention for the group. This is just an observation based on the patterns I’ve seen from other groups.
Correct me if I spelled their name wrong
I definitely thought the company did it because she could be considered the "visual hole" and I sincerely hope having er face covered hasn't damaged her self esteem.
Actually, Daewang isnt the tallest or largest of the girls. Her actual height is actually on the average side of the other members. She is only 'Tallest' due to them making her height '200cm from bottom to the tip of her ears'. XD
It wasnt to cover up and of her flaws, and believe it, it's not because she's a visual hole either 🤭
But the mask was her idea
my bias after their debut is arang, daewang, aini and yubeen....and now it's just arang and daewang....happy that their original maknae is back with em + with 2 new japanese member that is miku and momoka :)
Iriwa iriwa, Iriwa Iriwa
I in Love with the Iconic Song-
The girls are so talented. I really like fantasy and shadow play. Hope they stay in the industry for longer.
Ah yes, 17 minutes and 44 seconds of entertainment from my favorite Kpop channel
I fell in love with pink fantasy when they released FANTASY so I guess this is a good watch
They had a full EP comeback!!
5:54 don't be surprised, Arang was a trainee under busters label! and all the members are pretty close to busters 💕
haha well I was just surprised to see a collab like this you know?
I thought, based on what the members had said, that Lemon Candy is not entirely a comeback but rather a B-Side that's gonna be featured in the next comeback that they are having. They said that at first it was just gonna get released as a gift for the fans waiting for the comeback but they ended up promoting it and making a video for it, hence the quality of the MV being "worse" than other MVS previously released as it was filmed a bit rushed.
It basically is just a pre release, but when I was talking about the production I just wanted to mention it since a lot of people had an issue with the mv. Which i don't really get cause I don't care about mv's that much but some people do
Thank you for pointing this out.
Just like you said, as mentioned by Daewang in her personal posts, Lemon Candy firstly was not supposed to be their comeback, but a pre-release. And they were not supposed to have any MV or promotion for it at all. However, since fans are anticipating on this release after a long while, Daewang decided to take videos too during their concept photoshoot at the set, and make it into an MV. The main plan was just to do a photoshoot and use some clips as possible teaser or small promo clip, but Daewang then decide to push it further by trying to make it turn into an MV at least, for the fans.
Though it is unfortunate that people compare this with their other MV productions and speculate that they are running out of funds (which has been debunked further to be false too).
Maybe the reason they change members was because the "CEO" puts anyone on the group who wants to continue or pursue their career and give them second change to pursue their passion but, anyways that's what I thought
I really really love a few of their songs! I hooe that they'll be sucessfull in the future :(💕
Honestly their dancing skills are ✨😗👌✨
I hope things are good for them because they actually have such a unique concept and their songs are really good!
i love the concept of the hidden member with a mask, it gives a unique quirky vibe to the concept group
i mean imaging having a member that can control the others?????????? WITH A RABBIT MASK??? ITS SO COOL
It sorda reminds me of nct there's so many members and units, it wouild be so cool if they took on that concept. Then again its probably expensive as heck. I love the ceo's ideas its so sweet.
momoka and miku are new permanent additions to the group, and heesun is now permanently back! momoka looks like a really good dancer and miku has amazing visuals and stage presence, i am anticipating the comeback!
They confirmed Momoka and Miku as permanent members??
@@suzurinchannel + heesun yeah
Heesun is permanently back? Yay!! And im excited for momoka and miku as well!
9:45 i think the reason that their first music videos weren't as professional looking is because Shindong from Super Junior directed them. I think Shindong is great, but they probably couldn't afford an experienced mv director, and they figured that having Shindong direct the video might generate some publicity (which it did). And they've acknowledged that Lemon Candy is a very low budget mv, they just wanted to put out a song so that fans wouldn't be worried + the hiatus wouldn't be too long.
I think the problem was not the MV concept, direction or produccion, it was pretty good for a small company. The problem was the horrible clothes and basic choreography. In fact, on their music shows performances the main critic was the white shirt and shorts, because looks really cheap (sorry for my bad English).
every person calling daewang scary owes me $50 and a physical pink fantasy CD album.
They really should stick to their iriwa and fantasy concept. I can think of like 5 groups already doing something like playing house and lemon candy. Their choreography, song, and concept for iriwa was perfect minus the group all wearing those baby diaper looking bunny costumes. Next get attention from Malaysian, Thai, and Indonesian fans. They love being mentioned by idols and support idols who mention them. For example release a Thai cover song. Next get suju fans attention with suju covers possibly featuring some suju members. Then release latin American covers. Suju has a huge latin American following who are extremely loyal. And don't forget suju use to have a rock dark concept too.. Then once returning to their dark concept push them and their new members in Japan. They already started and Japanese fans seem to enjoy them and their uniqueness. All in all their best route is international fans not Korean general public because if their concept and daewang. I'd also reccomend them covering dreamcatcher since some insomnia (not all, some are insomnia and luvits) seem offended by their similar concept and this might be a way to make a bridge and get more fans. Then get a makestar if possible. That would be huge for them. Finally try and get yechan on a singing show. She has goddess like voice. Or get one of the more 4d chaotic excitable members on a variety show. Keep up the amazing covers and release another song like Iriwa or like Rainbows Black Swan or Natures Girls even. Fantasy was a bit to similar to dreamcatcher and made a small amount of insomnia angry. Keep the awesome choreo. Push for outfits like that are dark and unique. Possibly like some dark concept jpop idols wear. I could go on and on about this but there's my main opinion if what they should be aiming for. Please everyone check them out.l! Iriwa is incredible and so is Fantasy. Listen to Yechans covers and enjoy shadow play and 12 o clocks amazing performances. Also watch and listen to daewang with fans she's hilarious
idk whos this group, but im excited for the video !!!
Same lol
Now you know them and maybe stan them. THem song fantasy is the best one. You should go and check this one.
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Daewang smart af 😩🤚🏻 wearing a mask so when she goes out without it she won’t have fans around her
Honestly, I LOVE and I do mean LOVE their darker concepts! It's different then all the "bubble gum" pop you hear from kpop and the daily, but ARGH! I love the darker stuff I think it suits them well and gives them an edge. Now, will that actually give them success if they stay darker...that is the question haha
Okay but the music from what I am hearing in this video and the performance, it looks gooooodd.
Another solid content!! I've been interested in this group since Iriwa. And all of these are new knowledge for me. Damnn the line up changes is a long talk. Thank u for this
i feel like daewang about info could allude to the identity. like teleporting because they can be in two places at once because no one know who they are. the “controlling other group members” could mean they are in a place of power relative to the other group members. same with “the king” title.
i like the theory of her being a ceo. if she was a former idol she could want that again without the criticism. she could cater to pink fantasy’s mental health because bing in the group she would experience how they are first hand
There group is proof of how hard it is being a kpop idol and trying to make it in the kpop industry....
They should really receive a lot more recognition
I'm so happy!! I love Pinkpan and seeing you promote them is so wonderful I hope more people get into them! 💞💞💞🐰
I came across them through the new comeback Poison (a bop btw) and their discography is awesome for such a small group. I'll definitely be supporting them 💜 PINK FANTASY FIGHTING
Support their next comeback Poison!! :D
This situation kind of reminds me of a more toned down version of Rania/BP Rania/BlackSwan’s situation
please support their comeback, everyone!
If u guys are worried pls stream their Poison MV
Im like 80% sure that daewang is Lee sohee (the ceo) the eyes, the hands, the body its so similar to hee
It probably is
i was waiting for this video since i saw the busters one. GEEZ IM WORRIED AF TOO THEY'RE MY ULTS. They had planned a tour thru Latin America, but even before the whole quarantine thing started they canceled the tours. it worried me because they announced new dates but canceling them again... until the totally canceled the tour. it freaked me up not because I got the most expensive tickets but because aini left and then yubeen i am currently extra worried.
Oh my gosh I've never seen Piggy Dolls mentioned anywhere, I liked them so much but then they just disappeared - their MVs were even deleted off youtube. I didn't know SeeA was in PinkFantasy!! Thank you for this info
The songs of Pink Fantasy are awesome, I just hope they can become stable and reach the top at some point, thankfully nowadays there are a lot of ways to promote the group by themselves, I hope that Mydoll Ent can support them as much as they need to success
Their songs and vocals are amazing, hopefully their company will get things straight so they can reach the success they deserve
Update, they’re coming back
Thank you for this video, I love your Worried series. I really hope Pinkfantasy does well because they have such talented members.
I'm recently growing worried for Fanatics and more specifically the Sika situation. We haven't seen her since December after the mistreatment scandal 😔
I'm so glad you enjoy this series! I am also very worried about Fanatics, I want to make a video on them very bad
I think a big thing with Heesun too was her age. She was born in 05, at debut the oldest member was Aini at 91. Thats a crazy age gap. It was good for Heesun to leave I think. But the other member changes has me dizzy and sad :( I miss their Fantasy sound
one day, one day i hope they'll get what they deserved like brave girls, hope people will notice them!
I saw two of the members on this one makeup dating type video,
Yesterday they had a comeback! Please help to stream their new song 'Poison' !
They're having a comeback soon xoxo