Thank you Josh. Thanks for all the help in the early days when my order was shipping. You really do look after your customers. Also were you in on my cow being kidnapped 🤔
@@AliensStoleMyCow smallformfactor.net/forum/threads/nfc-s4-mini-classic-193-ant-man-7700k-1080mini-7-11-2020-brickless-4-2l.1646/page-5#post-130345 I used a 120mm with VLP , check the post under that, my results were ever better with flipping the fan into the PULL config, 3-5c decrease in temps at FULL LOAD on my 7700k delidded at 4.2GHz all-core
Ordered 06.08.2020, arrived to my UK address on 28th. shipped from Taiwan, from Lian Li - I guess, S4m black case 200$ + 35$ shipping + 20$ customs + 20$ Vandal Switch -16mm. packing and delivery was perfect, the case is like in this video, is fantastic! premium quality! Just waiting for new 5000 generation Ryzen CPU and new graphics card generation RTX 3060 mini to build my minimalistic PC
@@crewrogers597 you need a power brick and the HDPlex 400 unless you're going Brickless. The HDPlex plugs into your motherboard just like a regular power supply. It then has a connection for your power brick which you route to the back of the case.
Yooooooooo, the S4M!!! aaaaw yeaaaaah... But you can fit a lot more power in this case. I9 9900KF with a Gigabyte RTX 2060 mini and brickless. Undervolt both GPU and CPU. The average GPU is 63 and CPU is around 60.
@@AliensStoleMyCow not delidded i did down clock it to 4ghz and under volted to 1.08 on cpu. PSU is the hdplex check out the site. Also Josh the maker of the case has a discord. Come on over, we have people running 2070 and brickless. We share findings and pics.
No problems. A lot of people are running brickless now which wasn't available when I built this. I think you need to sacrifice GPU size, but it's worth checking if you want to buy this case.
@@AliensStoleMyCow Yeah, you can use a Flex ATX PSU but if you have the Centry 2.0 Case (7L) You can fit a Silverstone SX700 PSU, and a full sized GPU! th-cam.com/video/-jppzfO6I6M/w-d-xo.html www.sfftec.com/product-page/enhance-enp-7660b-pro
I agree that this is not a case for everyone. Now days the case is not existence but you can still get it second hand. In 2022 Hdplex release the 250 GaN so you can run it it brickless and up to 3060 ti undervolted. So if you are looking for a long lasting case with the limitation of the 210 mm length on the GPU this is the case for you. But good luck finding one.
I'm running a s4 brickless build with a 2070 super mini (noctua fan replacements) and 3700x. I can run games fine and do mostly everything fine, no prob but as soon as I go to install a game. 3-5 mins into installation, cpu package temps skyrocket and pc shuts down. Any idea how to fix problem?
Not sure if we can solve your problem as it could be multiple things. Firstly what cooler are you running. Secondly have you done any prime 95 runs on the CPU set to small FTT Maximum heat?
@@AliensStoleMyCow l9a cooler. I have 4 9mm noctua fans inside also. 2 at the HD plex and 2 on other side of s4m. 7 if you count the noctua cpu cooler fan and 2 noctua gpu fans.. Will need to run prime 95.
@@GFDthatsMe Also beware that the GPU once heated will compromise the air supply to the CPU cooler and cause over heating in roughly 5-10 mins. Change the L9a fan to the full size 25mm version. It should still fit and improve temps. If it is your GPU causing the CPU to overheat you need to make a divider out of card or something to separate the lower GPU half with the CPU half.
Hey bro thanks for the video! How "reliable" is the HDPlex 400? I want to buy it but I'm not about to spend $200 on a PSU that's gonna die in a short time.
Excellent question. Mine has been running daily for the last 3 years and it's been fine with the Dell 330w brick. Obviously when it comes to realiability it depends on luck but if you feel how solid the actual unit is, it seems like it was built to last. German engineering right?
I'm using one right now. It seems to be solid as a rock. Built it last night. Been through all of the 3D mark tests and it's been pretty good. It's a toaster under load but doesn't get out of hand and cools nicely to my surprise.
Thank you for your questions. The power button is separate. I bought the official one from NFC but really any of the ones on eBay are fine. If you buy the HDPlex the power brick which plugs into the wall does not come with it. But I think they may stock some separately but if not you can get them from many retailers.
I'll go ahead and ask because I am quasi planning an idea for a build. Would a power color AMD 5700 itx card work with a AMD 5600x ryzen 5 cpu? The video card seems to say it needs more power than other sources say.
It will work depending on your PSU combination. With the Dell 330w brick your pushing the limits a little. You may have to use software to limit the GPU power. The card looks like it's small enough for you to fit a Brickless PSU in the GPU camber. Both ways have pros and cons
@@AliensStoleMyCow What if I took the CPU and put it into ECO mode and let it run at say a 45 TDP which seems to be possible with the AMD processors? You think that would give me the extra umph I'd need without sacrificing too much processor wise?
@@cold0ero yes. You lower the power envelope slightly and try an undervolt, but it would be mostly your GPU that would be drawing the power. You need to limit the power draw of that.
You don't need to use a Dell brick - you can install HDPLEX' 400W AC-DC PSU next to the GPU... I just managed to install an AC Power inlet - no external brick... I bought the Dell brick a couple of years back, but never actually used it...
There are other options now but I bought this case 3 years ago and the AC-DC didn't exist. Also when using a Zotac Mini GPU there's very little space to fit a psu inside as that whole area is taken up.
damn been already six years now LOL im honest i will go back to micro atx too... 140 fans make such a difference in sound... lets not talk about the price for the smaller itx parts..
Absolutely! Not to mention that having more than 1 PCI-E slot is so useful. I use mine to add more NVme drives because of editing large files. Mini ITX is useful if you do nothing but gaming. Micro ATX is better for mixed workloads and the average person.
I have to ask for a day off from work so I can go to the main post office in the state capital, a 3 hour drive from my home town, to pay the customs tax and pick up my DAN A4 case. The postmen inspecting my package couldn't believe a small PC case could cost so much. On side note a researcher from a Japanese university was also there waiting for his package to be cleared. He claimed he was helping local researchers to stem the mass die-off of local prawns, He's been experimenting with some type of moss that eats up the contaminant that's killing off the prawns back in Japan but the package is held up by customs because it was an unknown, undeclared substance.
Did you try using the fan bracket to install 2 slim 90mm fans over a de-shrouded gpu? Were the temps noticeably better? I'm thinking about undervolting my gpu but I'd honestly rather avoid that if possible. But will do it if there are no better options.
I actually didn't get any GPU temperature problems so I didn't try that combination. I found CPU cooling to be a bigger issue, although the GPU fully loaded does dump heat into the CPU chamber which is an issue
Always great to see a real life review from a customer! Also, I am sorry about your cow...I will talk to Dell about that for you.
Thank you Josh. Thanks for all the help in the early days when my order was shipping. You really do look after your customers. Also were you in on my cow being kidnapped 🤔
@@AliensStoleMyCow Can neither confirm nor deny...
I am buying one right now i love your case man
THE LEGEND NEVER DIES!
And that legend is the Truong Legacy
nice review bro, that LP53 is GLORIOUS, i had the same combo in my S4M-C, then i upgraded to the Blackridge, way better at higher Watt sustained loads
Thank you so much for sharing that. I'm interested in how much lower the temperatures are and also did you go 92mm or 120mm with vlp?
@@AliensStoleMyCow smallformfactor.net/forum/threads/nfc-s4-mini-classic-193-ant-man-7700k-1080mini-7-11-2020-brickless-4-2l.1646/page-5#post-130345 I used a 120mm with VLP , check the post under that, my results were ever better with flipping the fan into the PULL config, 3-5c decrease in temps at FULL LOAD on my 7700k delidded at 4.2GHz all-core
@@CubanLegend561 great stuff I'll check out that post. But just so we know you mean pull as in pull air into the case onto the heatsink?
@@AliensStoleMyCow correct, Pulling air into the case onto the heatsink/mobo
@@CubanLegend561 I checked the post. So you got 5 degrees improvement with a defective black ridge? What made it defective?
Ordered 06.08.2020, arrived to my UK address on 28th. shipped from Taiwan, from Lian Li - I guess, S4m black case 200$ + 35$ shipping + 20$ customs + 20$ Vandal Switch -16mm. packing and delivery was perfect, the case is like in this video, is fantastic! premium quality!
Just waiting for new 5000 generation Ryzen CPU and new graphics card generation RTX 3060 mini to build my minimalistic PC
Thanks so much for letting us know. Sounds like a fantastic build. What power supply and cooler did you end up going for?
I want to build with the ryzen 5 5600x and 3060ti I just don’t know how to do the power supply stuff.
@@crewrogers597 you need a power brick and the HDPlex 400 unless you're going Brickless. The HDPlex plugs into your motherboard just like a regular power supply. It then has a connection for your power brick which you route to the back of the case.
@@AliensStoleMyCow Ok sounds simple enough is the dell one in the video the best one you would recommend at the moment?
@@crewrogers597 it's the most powerful unmodified power brick you can get.
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Yooooooooo, the S4M!!! aaaaw yeaaaaah... But you can fit a lot more power in this case. I9 9900KF with a Gigabyte RTX 2060 mini and brickless. Undervolt both GPU and CPU. The average GPU is 63 and CPU is around 60.
Is it delidded and also what cooler? And what PSU?
@@AliensStoleMyCow not delidded i did down clock it to 4ghz and under volted to 1.08 on cpu. PSU is the hdplex check out the site. Also Josh the maker of the case has a discord. Come on over, we have people running 2070 and brickless. We share findings and pics.
@@jaimevelazquez5844 ok good to know, thank you for the info!
Thanks for the GPU and PSU info!
No problems. A lot of people are running brickless now which wasn't available when I built this. I think you need to sacrifice GPU size, but it's worth checking if you want to buy this case.
@@AliensStoleMyCow Yeah, you can use a Flex ATX PSU but if you have the Centry 2.0 Case (7L) You can fit a Silverstone SX700 PSU, and a full sized GPU!
th-cam.com/video/-jppzfO6I6M/w-d-xo.html
www.sfftec.com/product-page/enhance-enp-7660b-pro
@@Leosalvaje_ Nice! I went with the Geeek A30 v2 in the end. There will be a build video soon
I agree that this is not a case for everyone. Now days the case is not existence but you can still get it second hand. In 2022 Hdplex release the 250 GaN so you can run it it brickless and up to 3060 ti undervolted. So if you are looking for a long lasting case with the limitation of the 210 mm length on the GPU this is the case for you. But good luck finding one.
This case is now retired to HTPC now. I have a Ryzen 4000 and a GTX 1660 for 4K HDR playback or light gaming.
I'm running a s4 brickless build with a 2070 super mini (noctua fan replacements) and 3700x. I can run games fine and do mostly everything fine, no prob but as soon as I go to install a game. 3-5 mins into installation, cpu package temps skyrocket and pc shuts down. Any idea how to fix problem?
Not sure if we can solve your problem as it could be multiple things. Firstly what cooler are you running. Secondly have you done any prime 95 runs on the CPU set to small FTT Maximum heat?
@@AliensStoleMyCow l9a cooler. I have 4 9mm noctua fans inside also. 2 at the HD plex and 2 on other side of s4m. 7 if you count the noctua cpu cooler fan and 2 noctua gpu fans.. Will need to run prime 95.
@@GFDthatsMe Also beware that the GPU once heated will compromise the air supply to the CPU cooler and cause over heating in roughly 5-10 mins. Change the L9a fan to the full size 25mm version. It should still fit and improve temps. If it is your GPU causing the CPU to overheat you need to make a divider out of card or something to separate the lower GPU half with the CPU half.
Hi! I’m planning to build with the same case and psu. Just wondering, how long did the hd plex 400 combo take to be shipped and delivered to you?
Took about 1-2 weeks from Germany.
Very nicd vid man!
Thank you Jay Talks, the man who speaks the truth while making it gold
Hey bro thanks for the video! How "reliable" is the HDPlex 400? I want to buy it but I'm not about to spend $200 on a PSU that's gonna die in a short time.
Excellent question. Mine has been running daily for the last 3 years and it's been fine with the Dell 330w brick. Obviously when it comes to realiability it depends on luck but if you feel how solid the actual unit is, it seems like it was built to last. German engineering right?
I'm using one right now. It seems to be solid as a rock. Built it last night. Been through all of the 3D mark tests and it's been pretty good.
It's a toaster under load but doesn't get out of hand and cools nicely to my surprise.
@@jacobcallahan2140 it's only got the cpu fan cooling everything so it can get hot. Make sure the fan is something good like Noctua.
Love your vids Does the power button come with the case and if I get the hd plex psu does the peice to plu in into the wall come with it
Thank you for your questions. The power button is separate. I bought the official one from NFC but really any of the ones on eBay are fine. If you buy the HDPlex the power brick which plugs into the wall does not come with it. But I think they may stock some separately but if not you can get them from many retailers.
Can you explain more of how the power delivery is?
What would you like to know? You have around 400w of power with the hdplex 400 and Dell 330w power brick.
There's the Fatty Dog and small droid 😶😝🤣 makes my day ! Btw Nice Review
He's not fat he just has a big head 😁
@@AliensStoleMyCow lol 😂🤦🏻♂️
What would u recommend as an alternative case?
I want to put a minisforum AR900i in a case that will fit inside a backpack
There are lots of choices, do you require a GPU?
Very good video.
Very good comment.
@@AliensStoleMyCow best comment ever
I'll go ahead and ask because I am quasi planning an idea for a build. Would a power color AMD 5700 itx card work with a AMD 5600x ryzen 5 cpu? The video card seems to say it needs more power than other sources say.
It will work depending on your PSU combination. With the Dell 330w brick your pushing the limits a little. You may have to use software to limit the GPU power. The card looks like it's small enough for you to fit a Brickless PSU in the GPU camber. Both ways have pros and cons
@@AliensStoleMyCow What if I took the CPU and put it into ECO mode and let it run at say a 45 TDP which seems to be possible with the AMD processors? You think that would give me the extra umph I'd need without sacrificing too much processor wise?
@@cold0ero yes. You lower the power envelope slightly and try an undervolt, but it would be mostly your GPU that would be drawing the power. You need to limit the power draw of that.
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You like the build?
@@AliensStoleMyCow your main rig is mint!
@@theredgaming4250 we'll stay tuned cus I'm about to transfer it to a new case!
@@AliensStoleMyCow awesome, I'm still trying to wrap my head around all the PC terminology
@@theredgaming4250 Just smile and wave boys!
You don't need to use a Dell brick - you can install HDPLEX' 400W AC-DC PSU next to the GPU... I just managed to install an AC Power inlet - no external brick...
I bought the Dell brick a couple of years back, but never actually used it...
There are other options now but I bought this case 3 years ago and the AC-DC didn't exist. Also when using a Zotac Mini GPU there's very little space to fit a psu inside as that whole area is taken up.
damn been already six years now LOL im honest i will go back to micro atx too... 140 fans make such a difference in sound... lets not talk about the price for the smaller itx parts..
Absolutely! Not to mention that having more than 1 PCI-E slot is so useful. I use mine to add more NVme drives because of editing large files. Mini ITX is useful if you do nothing but gaming. Micro ATX is better for mixed workloads and the average person.
I have to ask for a day off from work so I can go to the main post office in the state capital, a 3 hour drive from my home town, to pay the customs tax and pick up my DAN A4 case. The postmen inspecting my package couldn't believe a small PC case could cost so much.
On side note a researcher from a Japanese university was also there waiting for his package to be cleared. He claimed he was helping local researchers to stem the mass die-off of local prawns, He's been experimenting with some type of moss that eats up the contaminant that's killing off the prawns back in Japan but the package is held up by customs because it was an unknown, undeclared substance.
An interesting set of events that you encountered. The Dan A4 is good too, different layout. The S4 is easier to slip into a bag.
What’s the price of this 🥺
About 200 USD but with the PSU and adapters you'll need to get running it's more like 300.
Did you try using the fan bracket to install 2 slim 90mm fans over a de-shrouded gpu? Were the temps noticeably better?
I'm thinking about undervolting my gpu but I'd honestly rather avoid that if possible. But will do it if there are no better options.
I actually didn't get any GPU temperature problems so I didn't try that combination. I found CPU cooling to be a bigger issue, although the GPU fully loaded does dump heat into the CPU chamber which is an issue
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Is that good?
wow that accent made me moist
Wait the American one or just me?
can I get the skyreach case pls
You can buy the case from the NFC Shop directly or there are 3rd party resellers.
can you ship it the me
i feel like i'm watching a forced perspective video and i can't tell what the actual size of anything is
It's about the size of a really thick 15 inch laptop