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- Um... Wow. That was... something. Jade Shadows was supposed to be a small story supposedly about the Stalker's past, but... I don't think anyone expected to see what we were actually given. Here is my interpretation of those events as well as speculation regarding it means in the Greater narrative moving forward. Things... will never be the same again.
0:00 The Business
0:30 Intro
1:44 Premise of the video
3:32 The Enormity of Eternity
9:40 Anything but That
11:12 He's Here
14:50 The Reason
15:45 Now She's Here
17:04 Finally Going Home
18:44 Hunhow's Epilogue
19:46 Immediate Aftermath
21:30 Orokin Tech is Reverse Engineered?
23:10 The Stalker is...
24:58 The Falling of Small Stones
25:25 What It All Means
31:10 Outro
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I swear to God next time Hunhow appears he better break out of Uranus just like Megatron while screaming ''I AM HUNHOW. SENTIENT DESTROYER OF WORLDS''
That would be epic... I want our tenno to ride him out like the man in the wall at the end of the New War!
@@TheDsIEGE like how aquaman rides that giant crab squid in the first aquaman movie
We really need to fish Grandpa Hunhow out of the depths, some sunlight might be good for him
It'd be seriously cool to team up with him in a Railjack mission or something
Would love to see what hunhow can actually do. He has been hyped up for so long it's time to see what he can do.
Seriously though, I hate how much a of little b!t€h they’ve made Hunhow he’s an absolute joke now.
you couldn't hold a uranus joke in for 1 single minute along that video 😭
My favorite reveal was that Stalker sleeps like a damned bat. He IS Batman!
😂
The way Hunhow says "I remain the great and terrible Hunhow" shows that he wants to redeem himself especially after how much trouble we went through to rescue his daughter. Hunhow is gonna be pretty lonely now that Sorren and Jade are no longer there. Maybe we'll get a chance to work with Hunhow to convince Sorren that we're his ally.
It's not so much convince as much as it is Sorren needs to come to terms with the fact the Tenno are just as much a victim as he is. That despite everything we are indeed willing to bury the hatchet.
I think our boy is gonna come back with his son and they're BOTH gonna be our allies, along with Hunhow.
@@DioStandProud Thematically it ties in nicely too as Hunhow laments the family they cannot have and have also lost, they also sounded (to me at least) a little sad that Stalker had left, they have, as they put it, grown sentimental in their rot. It's a weird found family situation in finding common ground to coexist and maybe even thrive if they can just put old grievances to bed.
NEW BASE FOR THE TENNO.: WE'RE ROOMING WITH GILF HUNHOW.
@@Devilcakes GILF HUNHOW 💀💀
@@bleachedink ARE THOSE HIS BONES? :O
I chose the name Sirius. The option was green and logically, it'd seem like Stalker would want to honor his wife's memory and name his son something to she'd want.
I chose the same for what it's worth!
Sirius deeper meaning means brightest star shining in the sky and Osiris meaning is hunter so regardless of what you picked it is fitting
My biggest question was why is there child chosen to be the heir
I’ve always like the name Sirius (the Dog Star) I actually read the other name as Orion (stupid dyslexia always getting stuff wrong for me) which is a mime I also love but I’m glad I didn’t pick it as ied misread it.
Also when we finally meet the baby again we can make the the joke are you serious?
@@permeus2nd Good News: You didn’t misread it actually is Orion. I find it neat that both are based off of stars with Orion being a reference to Orion the constellation
I'm really hoping we experience a time lapse when returning from 1999 and Sirius/Orion is grown up, leading his Father and the Acolytes. So much potential can be made from this I can't wait to see the outcome. Also if there is a time lapse, I kno its unlikely but there is a lot of hinting that Granum could revert Ordis back into the Beast of Bones. Couldn't see anyone better holding off the enemy forces while the Operator is gone during a said time lapse in their place than a resurrected Ordan Karris.
Here's the thing, we don't know how long it will take for a warframe baby to grow. Maybe 18 years... but probably more like 2-10 and would allow DE to bring it in whenever they want. And... while I'm not sure we'll get Ordan Karris back, I'm betting more and more that Ordis will have some kind of combat capability... maybe even a warframe, in the same way shown in silver grove...
@TheDsIEGE hear me out we can summon ordis and he controls your necromeach remotely
Very much yes, or ordis has a warframe with an exalted necramech@@eror404acountnotfound9
I'm willing to bet that proteia might be crucial in order for that to happen to ordis I do hope we get to see the beast properly
Props to Gianni Matragrano for doing a pretty sick Stalker voice
That flew over my head. I thought all voiceovers are of Siege?
I believe hunhow is simple. He's lost so much and almost lost natah (lotus) for good. He might not like it but the tenno are his grandkids. Alliance might be as far as the relationship goes but its all he has left with new war taking also his son Erra.
I couldn't agree more. Interesting that while the Lotus was given children through the tenno, it would seem Hunhow has been given the same gift and is only beginning to understand.
Hunhow is basically the angry grandpa that begrudgingly acknowledges his descendants.
@@chrisdufresne9359 unlike Mark Hamill 😂
Me to
My "dad instincts" kicked in so damn hard when Stalker took his baby frame in his arms. I was like, "I will jump in front of a bullet myself for this metal baby machine thing! NO HARM SHALL COME TO THIS CHILD!!!"
They are certainly building up Parvos for the future, now having him appear in two themed missions in a row and even giving some interesting dialogue with Balas in the Protea Prime trailer. The Worm Queen better step her own game up before the Grineer fall behind.
I desperately want to sew tyl regor in the spotlight, I absolutely love his personality and voice actor
He's also the fourth character to have confirmed interactions with the Man in the Wall (Tenno, Albrecht, Lotus and then Parvos in confirmation order), and he has actively spoken Voidtoungue too.
21:51 Yes, I think this is the case.
There are meta reasons why Jade must be the original source of the Jade light.
Basically this:
An author shouldn't write about Pegasus, hype up a flying horse, yet not have it be the Pegasus they kept writing about.
Jade the Person/Warframe, Jade the color, Jade Light ... it pretty much must be an absolute connection.
The Warframe writers are basically screaming wolf at us, while our faces are right up against the nose of the wolf.
But there is also an in-game connection that seems to fit:
Glory on High's alt fire fits how executions by Jade Light are described by eye witnesses.
"Use alternate-fire to detonate Judgments, causing an explosion of Jade Light"
Compare with:
"the Archimedian erupting into a flash, jade-like and blinding. I knew her. She was the greatest scholar of genetics who ever lived. Except now she was nothing but mist and gore..."
"Mist and gore" implies force and "into a flash" implies abruptness and intensity. If this doesn't fit, I don't know what does.
There is also some character called Myrmidon.
Made use of the Jade Light through a device strapped to their wrist. Killed Warframes with it.
An Ophanim Eye could fit.
Would also explain how Jade Light can be present without necessitating Jades presence,
at least if we assume the Ophanim Eyes can be manipulated in this manner, though this seems almost like a trivial engineering task for Ballas.
But this one is super speculative. I could've been too deep in Uranus too often, and now I'm seeing Jade Light everywhere.
Parvos also calls her the executioner.
Here's what I believe happened based on your observations
1. Jade herself worked on and/or created the Jade Light as a method of healing and termination, and probably worked with the Orokin Judges in some way, thus being somewhat High Society.
2. Sorren was a soldier, a Low Guardian. He and Jade met, and fell in love. They had to keep it secret due to how brutal Orokin society was.
3. Jade became pregnant with Sirius/Orion, and they hid it as best they could. When she started showing, she told the Orokin that the father was some other law officer or scientist across the Empire.
4. But, Ballas or some other Orokin found out that Jade and Sorren were meeting in secret, and put two and two together. (Around 8 months into Jade's pregnancy, I'd say).
5. Ballas found out and was PISSED. But he couldn't waste the talents Jade and Sorren had offered to the Empire, oh no.
6. The couple was arrested, put on trial, and sentenced to the Helminth. However, both were exposed to low levels of the Jade Light as well, one final torture before the transformation.
7. Stalker/Sorren survived, changed in the red Excal we know him as. Jade also survived, but her pregnancy was severely slowed, the baby having to protect itself and his mother by slowing its own development once turned into a Frame.
This quest was definitely one of my favorites, and i hope they bring orion and stalker back for a future quest.
Also I totally thought stalker was gonna put his kid into a transference pod.
Guaranteed they will, and I'm betting it's either gonna be a big one or... the beginning to the final battle.
Rebb already said they're working on something in the last Devshort.
It’s Sirius, not Orion
I named the child Sirius because it was marked with Jade's color, so I thought Sorren would want to honor Jade and not his hatred through the name Orion.
@@xenon3990well its either or
This was such a short yet such a head trip. Thanks for trying to make sense of it.
You aren't kidding. Small quest, HUGE implications. Blew my mind.
@@TheDsIEGE warframe is one of the few franchise that can do it.
Stalker wil step in while we are in 1999. He now has a reason to act. To protect his child.
I wanna know what hte acolytes are. Were they stalker's old unit? Derranged fans? Clearly they are like him. I suspect honestly they're his old unit. I wish we'd gotten t osee them.
Then again thta is somethign I want because it gives them new purpose. Something to live for beyond revenge and old wounds.
I was hoping they would have been included to some degree but... It's possible their association with him might mean they are low guardians as well, with similar purpose. As far as stalker is concerned... I've been hoping for this moment for years. A reason to ally...
@@TheDsIEGEPretty sure it was confirmed long ago that his Acolytes are the other Low Guardians who were present with him the day the Tenno used their metal/award adorned (Prime) warframes to strike down the Orokin. Having seen Sorren launch into the fight to try to fight off the “traitors” they saw him as their defacto leader.
I see it's 3 hours earlier than was originally announced, nice
Edit: just realized because he announced it in eastern time, but I'm in pacific, oof
LoloL, I saw that earlier and was wondering if I did something, lol
I so appreciate the subtle humanity written into the Corpus we’re getting to know in the narrative-Fortuna and Solaris United, Veso ignoring Alad V’s orders to aid the Origin System, now Captain Xeto putting aside her aspiration to join the Sisters to keep a baby safe.
I chose Orion because its a set of three stars. Sorren, Jade, Orion.
Because even though Jade passed, she will live vicariously through us, protecting the system unlike her husband who subjugated it's protectors. Basically acting as the guiding star (Sirius) whilst Sorren raises their child. Makes it much more wholesome in thst way imo.
I remember some discussion of peoples that speculate that jade could have been an archimedian that discovered/invented the jade light.
It could explain why ballad choose this specific warframe to have jadelight based ability.
We know he love cruel irony in his designs of warframe.
11:12 I found it a bit curious, of how Stalker could easily teleport into our orbiter. Which means that he could have probably been able to kill US, whenever he wanted. 😅
my father used to be a navy seal, and hes always say something along the lines of.. theres no greater enemy than the voice in your head. appeal to that voice an your enemy will crack. maybe its all a head game with stalker i mean, his name says it all
“ I will remain as the great, and terrible Hunhow”
At least he still understands what it means to be a father but it sad he still awaits a purpose he cannot abandon but what purpose ? Mother sentient? Or something else?
As for the shadow and his kin what future will they decide
Note: Its still amazing an actual warframe giving birth. What can of sick golden lord thinking!
Over time... I've really come to care about Hunhow. I remember when he was like the BIG BAD but like now... he's the tenno's grandfather, as another commenter said. I never really thought of it in those terms, but I wonder if he too maybe considering the same thing.
Maybe there'll be a point where he and Lotus/Natah/Margulis reunite peacefully, because he finally gets to truly redeem himself.
I firmly believe that the Jade we got, since, she's a copy, is not AS powerful as original Jade her self. considering how she's a source of the Orokins most painful punishment. Hence why peepaw Hunhow says she "still haunts" Uranus, and why we have to pull her essence out of Uranus, as painful as it sounds.
Because if Parvos got his hands on enough data to recreate a mobile fleet of Jade light eximus with the same amount of power as the real Jade light, we'd be screwed.. or at least have a much harder time dealing with them.
Also, I'd like to believe that each warframe we have, despite being a copy, retain SOME of the original's personality, hence why each one has their own unique idle animation, and why when Hunhow gave us Jade, it was in the last state she was in.
My question is if the Tenno still need a human to build our Warframe around? Because if we do that's...concerning. Were we able to figure out how to mold the bio-steel and shape an artificial nervous system? Or do we still need a base of meat and bone to start the process of making a copy of a Warframe?
@@ChristopherSadlowski I believe it to be think of a 3D printer. And your hemith segment. We didn’t need a human to build it. But also we do have the warframe cryo pods we protect and they say they are fallen allies so they could be what we protect is a basis of our warframe preserved. And the 3D modeling is just added essence of what the warframe was. Like jade we add jade essence.
@@ChristopherSadlowski well no, we're just using other materials to build them now rather than having to get a human body. Probably using mostly infested flesh from the helminth to make new ones.
I imagine the operator or drifter rolling their eyes every time the stalker shows up and drops a dread bp while bwing shot at by corpus or grineer with 20k overguard
Siege: "Uranus... and all of its enormity."
Stalker: "INSULT."
I'm glad you talked about them mentioning the "Jade Light" in passing dialogue. I wish they would've expanded on that. I was coming up with a theory that she was their executioner or something of that nature.
Also, not only enternalism. But we are about to mess with time travel. Ballas is still alive in the past...
I don't think Ballas will make a reappearance, at least not as a villain.
Team Sirius here!
I hope the child will turn out to be our triumph card against The Man in the Wall.
Here's my theory, and some food for thought. I believe that Jade is the source of the Jade Light, but as an orokin, not a warframe. Timeline-wise it wouldn't make the sense that the warframe's the source, knowing that Margulis died by the Jade Light. The warframes are described as feral in the pre-Zariman days and they had to be locked up. Had they been able to be controlled, let alone harvested for death ray particles the warframes would have had a lot of use even in the days before the transference. I highly doubt that in what I believe is a couple years at most that Margulis was able to teach and control the Tenno and then for the Orokin to be able to reverse engineer the death ray and to subsequently implement it as a special kind of execution. I agree that their love was forbidden, but not because of Sorren's duties but Jade's, as here she'd have been an important researcher, possibly an Archimedian. There are two things we all need to think about. One is small scale, yet I feel we have forgotten since it happened at the very beginning of the quest. Why does Hunhow question Jade's motives for saving Sorren during the Tenno uprising? He puts it like she would have had more reason to save someone of the Orokin instead of him and that just doesn't make sense considering what we know of their relationship. My current hypothesis is that he somehow tried pleading with the Orokin instead of keeping their relationship secret, thus leading to her being turned into a frame as a punishment, and him maybe even as a reward. This whole thing is build on the fact that as the Stalker he does everything he can to uphold Orokin morals and values, even though they fucked him over more than most. The second thing to think on, and this is a biggie. Sorren was already a frame during the Tenno slaughter, and so was Jade. This means that now canonically there were Tenno-less warframes being placed on low positions, which to me means there were many of them. I don't believe that during any point in time he was being used by an Operator, if he was piloted during the slaughter he would have been part of it, and he would have had no way to kill his Operator as he didn't know where the Reservoirs were. It would also explain his confusion during the Second Dream, as he'd have to question whether his life as Sorren was real or was he a dreaming child. This opens up a whole can of worms when you think about it. The Primes are the original soldiers turned warframes, and the regular frames were duplicates, but how many of them were there. Because even though the Zariman was a big ship meant for colonizing, there couldn't have been that many children there, and we already have 50 frames to account for. How many ordinary frames were there, were they piloted by anyone, if so whom. And the final thing that comes to me as I write: when we rebuild Umbra, we turn ordinary materials into a copy of a frame which then has the personality and memories of the original frames. Would these mass produced frames have copied personalities? Does this allow for another kind of immortality, one where a core personality can be reborn again and again for three and a half days in a foundry? I'll leave that up to you
I like that!
I've said this previously but here's my prediction: After WF1999 we return to the current timeline in its future and will experience a "Time Jump"
Protector Stalker will be the Guardian of the Origin System while we're back in 1999, and Orion/Sirius will be an adult upon our return.
I picked Orion, since it would be Stalkers decision.
Im just glad it confirms what Jade Light is. Or at the very least how its power is channeled. The baby WAS the jade light within her.
Ever since Ballas mentioned Margulis’ execution by jade light I wondered if it was literal, slang, or some kind of metaphorical thing.
I might of not been paying attention, but when he referenced the jade light, I wonder if he was actually talking about the Warframe herself, maybe they only used her for her light and at the time the baby didn’t drain her badly like it did towards the end
I chose Sirius. Sirius was the signal of prosperity and harvest in ancient Egypt, and I do wish Stalker will prosper as his son grows.
My two favorite things about the quest are the story itself and the music.
All instinct too... He only realized the child was alive moments before and still gave his body for him. A father's love, if true, is unconquerable.
I have a theory of where this could go next:
There is the ongoing story of Narmer at play with Pazuul or however it is spelt. There is also a God named Pazuzu who the name is likely derived from, and this God protects pregnant mothers. This could lead to a unified story between the Narmer plot and the Stalker plot. Said God’s rival is one whom kidnaps children at childbirth, so there could be a rival archon to Pazuul who wishes to seize Jade for themself, and somehow could lead to an alliance between the Stalker and Pazuul.
Wasnt Pazuzu a demon who kidnapped newborn children?
OH it was Lamashtu that took newborn children...
"Consider that, this baby most likely has the capacity to also grow"
Picturing how funny it would be that Sirius/Orion is in fact the first baby Warframe, does NOT grow up and this little fella is just slaughtering hundreds across the system,
Paving way for DE's end goal: Baby Looney Toons Warframe style spinoff
Of all lore vids i personally like yours the best and i am eaglery waiting for warframe 1999.
I just can't call the dynamic between Albrecht and Loid "love". It's monstrous and abusive. I would have thought the master/slave dynamic would be shamed from the rooftops, but for some reason horrific relationship dynamics are touted as laudable in gay relationships in modern media, and I'm sick to death of it. I don't know what stopped Wally, but it wasn't love.
As he leaves to leave Uranus with its sheer huge Normandy
Ok, so 1st thing that I feel like a lot of ppl might be getting wrong, is that Jade finding Stalker again is a recent thing, just with Hunhow's speech during this diorama "Of all the gods, Kings, and golden lords, she saved you" seems to imply this choice happened back when it was still a choice, so most likely during the Terminus massacre, this would mean that Stalkers lair in Uranus was there for a long while and that also Jade was resisting devastating effects of her pregnancy for a really long time (tho the other option implies she did so when being much more active to find Stalker), and also I think that reason behind her no longer resisting pregnancy might be a bit deeper than just Tenno transferring into her and bringing back her memory of Soren, she seems to have been aware of Stalkers emotions, and perhaps, when she felt that he broke trough his hatred of Tenno to ask them or help she decided he might be ready for fatherhood, now he put priority on his love above his hatered, after all being a father when constantly hunting down some of the most powerful warriors in the system is not good idea
The quest was great but I really wanted there to be more to what the nature of the stalker is. He seems to have abilities more vast than warframes, and no operator. If he’s a warframe he has way more control than umbra.
Jade, WF babies and plenty of things in this quest were mind blowing but stalker = WF was a let down….. unless there’s more
I agree, but... I will take what we got. There's still a lot to go through, especially with what's being presented in belly of the beast
I remember choosing Sirius because after a quick mythological dive, Sirius was the brightest star in the night's sky, I chose that name since it is implied Jade wanted that name , but also because you could see the child as Stalker's brightest light. In a world of darkness, where he spent untold centuries or even millennia hunting and assassinating Warframes, he now has a new purpose, to protect both his and Jade's light.
My head-canon is Jade and Sorren were in a class defying relationship as you suggested, given how strict the Orokin were with class hierarchies and staying within your assigned caste, they obviously had to keep this a well kept secret, but somehow Ballas found out, either because Sorren was a guardian in his vicinity for a long duration of time, or he just found out through whatever ways he had back then, but instead of just punishing both Sorren and Jade for this violation of Orokin societal norms, he instead chose to blackmail Sorren, assigning Sorren to be one of Ballas' personal guards in exchange for Jade's continued safety, so long as he didn't interact with her again.
Ultimately it didn't last in one form or another as Jade eventually did become a Warframe, likely becoming the lead executioner of the Orokin, although it seems like Sorren didn't know this even up to the time of Jade Shadows, but Ballas wasn't done being a manipulative scumbag, when the Tenno eventually rebelled and decapitated the Orokin Empire, leading to it's swift fall into chaos, Ballas influenced Sorren into believing that Jade was still alive, but she was butchered, child included by Tenno beasts. this would foster his unyielding hatred for the Tenno that would continue to burn up until present day, I now personally believe that before Ballas went into hiding, he gave Sorren to objective to destroy the Tenno, but in order to have a somewhat even playing field, Ballas offered the Helminth Strain to Sorren, to become a Warframe in order to complete that objective, using that one memory of the love he lost and the child he never got to see, he became a fully sentient Warframe, much like Umbra.
Loved the video DsIEGE! You definitely helped clean some stuff up regarding the quest in a way that makes sense, hearing your take on the Belly of the Beast event in your next video is gonna be fun as well
Thank you and I like your take on it as well. I'm working on the next one as we speak, should have it out soon!
I've been calling Hunhow a potentially ally ever since the New War, and it felt so good to be vindicated with this story.
The reasoning I gave people is pretty much what we end up seeing here: New War showed how tired he was, how hurt losing his daughter made him feel, how it made him re-think his priorities, and how the Tenno are just as much victims of the Orokin as he is
'As sound of mind as anyone else in this system' hahahahaha the bar was set so low
I agree with a lot that has been said. I really hope we get his former allies into this and learn the mystery’s possibly behind them. I don’t see ballas coming back. But possibly another warframe can help. Understanding of umbra and the umbra link he has. Would the stalker have a stalker link? Would we be able to upgrade our warframe like an incarnation weapon to look like stalker eventually? I do wish to see the child grow up. Could this gray strand be harnessed? What other properties does it have and could it be a possible answer? Fight with bigger warframe I find it hard to believe we would use an army of huge warframe a but possible fight fire with fire. New entity’s show up at every corner. Will warframe 1999 show a weakness to the man in the wall or will we fulfill our deal with him to fight something bigger? I feel we are moving towards amending a relationship with stalker to possibly form a new stalker faction or a new area like the iron wake. I agree with alot that’s said. Great video love the work put into it.
Sirius was the name I choose. Being the brightest object in the night sky, Sirius is composed of two objects: a main sequence star, Sirius A (Stalker), and a white dwarf, Sirius B (the child). White dwarfs are collapsars - stellar remnants, products of a star's death. They are what is left once death takes place on these astronomical objects, and that's an amazing parallel to Jade and her child. Even more, white dwarfs are white because they carry the energy and momentum of the former star, like a breath of new life. Such an amazing name.
I would love and hope so much for Captain Xeto to join us in the camp, and even be helping Kahl. We would then have both grineer and corpus figures as allies. Thinking about it, imagine if the Acolytes also became allies. They and the Stalker can protect the entire system if we as players either get stuck in 1999, or head off to Tau.
Me too and I think that's where she'll end up sooner or later
They did say that they wanted to bring the Velco gameplay back. (Although as a different Corpus since Viko is canonically dead). Seems like a good oppertunity to tie this to Xeto
She's gonna have to do something after betraying the being she just moments before worshipped as a god. Most contrived ending to a quest in a long time when they ripped off the ending of Children of Men just for some sisterhoodpowapoints lol Ain't no way a baby crying stops a zealot from adhering to their god's command, are we just ignoring what Sisters do to become Sisters, Xeto wanted to be a full Sister, she was committed to that. If she has a reason, I'll be very interested to hear it.
@@agingerbeard I mean... zealots turn all the time. A lot of us like to think we'd do anything it takes to reach our goals, and probably even 99.99% of Sisters fall in line with your proposed prejudice. But it's hard to guarantee EVERY SINGLE one of them do not have a line they will not cross. Xeto might be just the .01%
Would you say all terrorists without fail would aim and fire at a child? No? There you go.
In this sense, I kinda doubt it's contrived as there themes combating indifference does fit narratively with this.
Id like to mention this.
Ordis' first thoughts when something unknown is in the ship.
Operator. (Cares deeply for them)
Umbra. (Only living warframe abored)
Helminth. ( to qoute ordisn "literally, the bowles of the ship")
11:34
Edit for other things i noticed.
He calls the operator in a worried tone. Umbra in a confused tone, and helminth in a desperate/displeased/annoyed tone.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Edit 2:
What id like to see is the stalker, unable to go anywhere else to find safty, comes to us to protect his child and we'd get an option (or its chosen for us) to let the stalker join us abored our orbiter.
When Hunhow mentions the warframe he gave "the insult of a rescue." Isn't he talking about Yareli and her deluxe?
Reckon Jade was laying there, pregnant for untold thousands of years since the Orokin era? I assumed Stalker went to Lua to find Jade, the Tenno her, or maybe recover himself from there too since without a Tenno to channel void energies into them, warframes are strong but don't have space magic powers, and Stalker has space magic powers so he must be there somewhere. That just raises so many questions...was Jade's Tenno just laying there in her pod and suffering a slow draining death for untold years until the birth? Lacking answers just raises so many weird questions..
I don't think there was a "Tenno her", I think Stalker and Jade are just like Umbra (who was a Dax, didn't had void powers but still could use exalted blade), it's just their bodies turned into "metal-flesh". That's why Warframe-Jade is pregnant, because Jade got turned into a Warframe while pregnant
Jade light appears to be a force of truely "recycling" an Oro in terms of eternalism - unlike any other options of apparent death, rebirth, exile, change, corruption, it truely transforms one life into new life, free from the baggage of the past or the possibility of change.
I just hope that Stalker and Jade’s child grows up happily and healthy.
Why do you think they only let the operator in this story? I always use drifter.
The Stalker and the Operator have a longer history together, he was there on Lua. The Drifter already had a brief alliance with Stalker. Not using the Operator would have been a missed opportunity...
Jade Shadows was such a good quest. It managed to coherently squeez so much info into so little space. I love where were going with stalker but im more facinated by hunhows development on the side. Hunhow of all entities in the Origin System, could make for a great ally vs the corpus when they inevetly start hunting down stalker.
At least I now know the miinigame was for the baby's heartbeat as I was quite confused
This quest just made me think that we don't hate Ballas enough lol
for the record...
"hijau Langit" means "green sky"...
what happened to Stalker was not the first, nor the least...
any who...
that was a good VA work bro!!!
hope it will be more of it in the near future...
Swazdo-lah Surah...
stay safe Guargian...
VERY INTERESTING! I did not put that together my friend, and... I agree with your take on the Stalker as well. BTW, thank you regarding the voice work, and yes, there will be much more of that. I really enjoy it!
@@TheDsIEGE
well...
What if...
This is the big IF...
There's something called the child of the Void...
That we know now as the Tenno...
The "Demon"...
What if the "child" of the Hunter is the "Angel"?
Not the hunter...
But the one that ends the Demon?
Anyway
Amazing work as always
Quick question...
Why did you pick the dog, but not the Master?
Swazdo-lah Surah...
Stay safe guardian..,
17:45 You walked right past an ayatan sculpture...
I totally did, lol... Good catch! That was a good one, too...
I gave the child name Orion... simply because of the meaning:
Orion is mentioned in the oldest surviving works of Greek literature, which probably date back to the 7th or 8th century BC, but which are the products of an oral tradition with origins several centuries earlier.
In Homer's Iliad Orion is described as a constellation, and the star Sirius is mentioned as his dog.
In the Odyssey, Orion is essentially the pinnacle of human excellence in hunting: Odysseus sees him hunting in the underworld with a bronze club, a great slayer of animals. In some legends Orion claims to be able to hunt any animal in existence. He is also mentioned as a constellation, as the lover of the Goddess Dawn, and as the most handsome of the earthborn.
So... Since Orion is a Hunter and Sirius his dog... I simply chose name Orion...
It's... a worthy choice without question and Orion will go on to do great things!
Imagine a year or two from now, in a future update, our Tenno is in a dire situation, and gets saved by a misterious Warframe. But its not like the others, because it SPEAKS with his own voice, saying "I've been looking for you, Tenno. My name... is Sirius"
honestly the idea of stalker just coming after us after the baby falls to sleep is the most funniest shit of all time
I chose Orion for a couple reason 1) My mind went to Orion Pax initially and said Freedom is the right of all sentient beings and a famed greek hunter amongst the stars.
These are great reasons!
Orion, The hunter, The guardian of the stars,
Interesting how Albrecht call the man in the wall “the adversary.” Satan in ancient greek translates to adversary so that might be a reason that Ballas and the helminth calls the operator a devil. Odd thing to notice, but I feel like it adds a deeper layer to The Man in the Wall.
That baby is gonna have one hell of a puberty
That newborn life is very singular. Unique...
Like a dish made for a certain entity.
one thing i cant understand is how stalker wants vengence for the orokin when the orokins "killed" his wife and unborn child
As much qs i adored this episode i jave to point out the joke no one is talking about.THE DEPTHS OF URANUS,AND INDEED,IT IS DEEP
-DeSiege
i choose orion for
1. its my favorite constellation, one where i can see it every night
2. it honors stalker's legacy, for it too will be trained and become the hunter
3. when u think about it, orion represents as human, the same symbol like the vitruvian man
4 would love to see orion as female, who's powers and abilities can be similar to both stalker and jade somday
also would love to see and rescue xeto to be part of tenno's ally, for not only saving stalker, but she reminds me of tat one corpus unit who died in the new war, one tat he rejects alad v's orders...xeto would be interesting...
These are all wonderful reasons!
I feel like people overlook the name you choose. Orion the hunter or Sirius the guider. One meant to lead the other meant for slaughter.
Oh damn the part "The reason" has give me goosebumbs again and some tears the quest is so touching and sad I loved it so much. I relate to loss sadly so much means every Quest about it hits double but I somehow love good and sad storytelling emotions are important ngl.
It was another beautiful quest. DE really knows how to get you in the feels, there's no two ways around it.
I just played the quest last week, and I’m speechless. Even if it’s a short quest, I fucking loved it. I think I am among the players who wanted to know more and a development about the Stalker since The Second War. I started playing in 2018, when I got a better computer and I only knew a surface level about his origins, only knowing he was some sort of a guard and affiliated with the orokin, until the Tenno slaughtered them all, and his drive to hunt all the Tenno, and his involvement in the second dream when we confronted him. All I have to say regarding the quest is that *spoiler warning* OUR MAN IS NOT THE STEP-FATHER, HE IS THE FATHER THAT STEPPED UP AND I’M FUCKING HERE FOR IT
A line that’s stuck in my head is the bit about the stalker if gone from his lairs but she still haunts this place, what did Hunhow mean by “”she haunts this place”” ???
We know so little about the Warframes and this incident goes far beyond even that limited knowledge, what actually happened to Jade we saw her disintegrate but did she die? the only other time we know of a Warframe actually dying is at the hands of the stalker (also when he kills the frame and takes its head dose that kill the operator? As that’s pretty dark) though I kinda guessed that the bosses we beat for Warframe schematics have probably killed that frame that’s how we are able to get the info to build that particular frame, but what happens to a Warframe that dies? Dose it become a ghost?
it might be that she was scanned at some point to try diagnosing her, but beyond that, it's an attempt to weave her into the narrative even tho she probably wasn't thought of until this past year. like the idea is she'd been in the lair wasting away for a long time by now and it affected the stalker's mental state. and yes she died giving her essence to the baby à la steven universe. what we have of her now is a fabricated clone that's not designed to be conscious 😢
Maybe he's talking about the Motes we have to collect in the new mission, the mission starts at the Stalker's lair
Something seemed off about Lua. When Stalker arrived there he was looking up at Earth, but after going to the other end of the tileset he seems to be standing before something completely different?
You know... at first I just thought that was a starry sky in the background but... maybe you're on to something? It does have a weird appearance...
4:30 i‘ll take that as a compliment, thank you very much!
You should!!!
To be fair... we may've killed the Long-Armed Father of Warframes -- but was that really him?
Or perhaps a Void-borne doppleganger?
Or could it be really him -- and his "other" decided to do things differently from his more corrupted counterpart, and is more observant of the going-on's as they unfold?
Can't wait to remember the orokin fall
Idk if others got this but one time the stalker was going to invade me and (with green jade light) said no more… only happened once and not again
To answer your "is anyone really dead in a world of eternalism" question I have 2 answers, Ballas is currently existing in Duviri, and the 2nd answer, if wally wants you gone, you're gone.
The acolytes are also low guardian ranked because the low guardian logo is the same as the stalker and acolytes helmets
I agree so I want back story about this cause why was they changed into warframes. Was it a mass punishment or was it what the low guardians originally was made for. They never show or tel the ful truth
I'm gonna keep it short
The question I pose is this: why is Parvos Granum, leader of the Corpus, taking a personal interest in these relatively small things, like relics buried somewhere and of a single Warframe?
I think this has to do with the Man In The Wall, and the desire to spread its indifference.
It could not get Dante, as he blasted himself to save his friend.
Jade herself would not have worked in her state, but her child might've. The Stalker made sure that that would not work now. The question remains, why?
The Man in the Wall, to me, seems to want a vessel, with which it will use to get out of the Void and come after us.
It could not break us mentally, so it will attempt to do it the old fashioned way. While it does have the big Wall form, it is not exactly easy to move and remain quiet. For another thing, I believe you said it at one point as well, we don't know what the deal was exactly for us as the Operator to get our Void power, but whatever it was still applies now, it just hasn't been stated yet
In the dialog about the injured Warframe arriving on Uranus, I believe he refers to the new Yareli Skin. After all, he says he helped her adept and such... doesn't fit all to good to Jade, does it? Apart from that, we know that the Skin is connected to Hunhow, so why not?
The show was good and ended with cliffhanger. Well I was dumbfounded with the baby being born but how long was to keep the baby there?
We don't really know how long it takes for a warframe child to grow. Could be 20 years, could be 20 days. I can't wait to find out personally!
So, just to be clear... ?
The full name of the planet is "Uranus, and it's sheer enormity" ?
its likely that the child will be a new kind of warframe and its also likely he isn't the last
Imagine a WARFAME and The Legend of Korra crossover, set after Book: 4. Imagine after The Tenno helps Korra save the day, he convinces her to aloud him to take a group of people from The Water Tribes, to Uranus where they could build a civilization around Hunhow so they could keep him company, to cure his “solitude,” and maybe even “Made a Religion About Him” to spread Hunhow’s “Mighty Wisdom.” They’re feel right at home knowing that Uranus is a WATER planet. Even better IF WRITTEN that would make both Hunhow and Raava be known acquaintances.
I’ve started playing WARFAME after, I finished watching Avatar: The Last Airbender, The Legend of Korra, and The Netflix Adaptation, and I’m just simping for a crossover. 😉
14:49 Magnanimous, adj.: generous in forgiving an insult or injury; free from petty resentfulness or vindictiveness.
"Depths in Uranus, it's deep, no doubt about that!" 😂
My theory about Albrecht not knowing about Jade is that she is an exception, something that cannot be predicted by any simple means.
Stalker and the Acolytes clearly were all low guardians, yet Jade, as one of the numerous ways Ballas would insult those he considers beneath him, he made her different to mock what is to him the disgusting existence of an inferior person DARING to bring new life, probably because doing so is considered a privilege in the Orokin society.
By doing so though he allowed the existence of what could be one of the most powerful future independent Warframes, Sirius or as I like to call him, Sirio in my language, the brightest star in the sky, making the event of bringing to life an exception, both literally and also metaphorically, something unique.
As we know, uniqueness is something that the indifference seem very attracted to as Albrecht noticed as well.
So yeah, the child, Stalker, us and the indifference will cross paths again
I agree and I believe that will be the reason this child is the key to... well, everything.
Still trying to understand.... What is the difference between Warframe and sane Warframes, like how do Arthur, umbra, and jade retain memory without needing an operator. Are current Warframes just grown from a raw strain or...
Arthur is a proto frame new type of frame. Idk much about them. Umbra is different cause ballas installed an umbral link which makes umbra relive killing his son over and over and umbra was never ment to have an operator. He was ment to be trapped on Lua in his cage forever living the same memories. I feel jade and stalker and the acolytes possibly have a different link like umbra except stalker and acolytes have a stalker link. But since jade was pregnant she’s different she don’t have an operator and she was used as weapon of punishment. So maybe she was infused with a key like the yanus key or how ever voir says it.
I know this comment might be unrelated but please DE make so Umbra just roam around and play his Shawzin in our orbiter/drifter's camp.
Yes, we need this, maybe also have him look/ contemplate at decorations on our orbiter from time to time
About time… this one was a heavy one.
Can you remind me where Stalker and Hunhow live? I seem to have a hole in my memory.
the baby is us the tenno, the paradox, past, current, future all happen at the same time
We know for a fact that Sorren/Stalker was present at the ceremony to honor the tenno for their victory against the sentients. He knew what was going to happen, but since he could not speak(at least not normally) he couldn't warn the orokin, try as he may. He tried to fight the tenno, and they would've killed him too, but Jade saved him. I've said this before, but i don't think Sorren was punished into Warframehood. And I don't think he was happy for braking the law of those he was loyal to. His tone about the lords show a loyal and a by-the-book man.
I want hunhow to be as our mission guide like the lotus do and the ordis tweaking to parvos is a bit concerning i hope we se ordan karis return aka the beast of bones and im glad we got more answers than questions
Kid is Sirius, to honor Jade's will
A surprise to be sure, but a welcomed one.
I personally have a bit of a theory for Xeto. Given her actions and her reaction to there being a child on the field, she likely reacted out personal maternal instinct. It's possible she was expecting to be a mother at some point in her life or was, but possibly had miscarriage or lost the child in some other way. This could be me looking too deep into things into what is typically a correct response to there being a child in firing range. But her reaction and inflections seem to potray there being more to her.
The Uranus jokes haha!
I think the New War has caused cracks in the power structures of the Corpus and the Grineer. At first we saw Teeso and Kahl going against their golden leaders. Then we heard about Corpus and Grineer willingly joining Narmer after its fall. Then Kahl's story line continues with more Grineer joining him in being free from lords and masters.
And now we have Captain Xeto and the Corpus under her that decided to flush their new career oppertunities down the drain because they weren't willing to do something evil. And I think thei trend is gonna comtinue.
Leading up to the New War, it was logical that people began to question us. We slaughter, loot, drain resources, create chaos and -from a propaganda pov- kill jobs. But as soon as we were eliminated by Ballas, the system was quickly taken over by invaders who brainwashed and oppressed people even more. They presented themselves as saviors from us. People believed that only they truly cared about them while their previous leaders did not. But as soon as their new leader was more than ready to kill them all for his own ego, we were the only ones capable of stopping them and we did. We could've taken power for ourselves but we didn't... I can imagine that this might cause people to think about us. Just like Hunhow did... Just like Stalker did... And perhapse think more about their leaders.
Although... Narmer continues to he threat because it establishes itself as a religion, with Pazuul promising an afterlife and life in paradise in Tau as the promised land to those worthy of it. At first you might think it's weird that Narmer is still around if you aren't aware of people willing joining it. And if you are, you might think it's weird that they do. But is it really? You have seen loads of wars and battles over the worlds you live on, you almost faced extinction multiple times, your resources are running out, climates become hostile, everyone wants to control you. If your future sounds hopeless, and the last ones that tried to control you are terraforming machines, that made conditions slightly better on Earth and Venus. And they offer you a way out. They offer you a new beginning far from the hellscape you're used to.
This is one of the best story mode I play after new war
you know what ? if DE don't Make warframe Based off Of who Ordis was in the past I will be so disappointed.